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IS JFK JR STILL ALIVE? STRANGE FACTS SURROUNDING HIS PLANE CRASH.... | |
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| Yesterday ~ Today ~ Tomorrow User ID: 76107349 United States08/10/2018 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very Interesting video. It appears to have ibeen murder but we can always hope he is still alive. He had guts, Knowledge and integrity. Thank you for posting. Last Edited by Yesterday ~ TODAY ~ Tomorrow on 08/10/2018 12:25 PM |
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| Bastila User ID: 76439244 United States08/10/2018 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK JR. Qanon? No I don't buy that at all. If anything that is a theory designed to make conspiracy people look stupid, just Like the Flat Earth theory did ha ha. Last Edited by Bastila on 08/10/2018 02:42 PM Republic |
| Yazz Flute User ID: 15153661 United States08/10/2018 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I know is he was going to run and win that New York senate seat and run for president 2016. Guess who else had the same plan?   Look around, is this the end that you have foreseen? The pain, the misery in us all What was it that you knew? Will we one day learn it too? And together build another way, to the morning Or will it ever come again? You've poisoned all our hopes We have nothing now, and what of the children? What has this done to them? Damn you for the pain that they must feel... |
| Moss Rose User ID: 76828668 United States08/10/2018 03:26 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be wonderful if he was. It was so sad when that happened, I think a lot of us felt we lost a real good guy that horrible night. "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill Thread: THE NANO/AI/FREQUENCY/BCI MIND CONTROL SYSTEM Thread: Humans are now "hackable animals"? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| Spiritmyst User ID: 1019799 United States08/10/2018 04:15 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arkancided, most likely, to ensure that Hillary could win that Senate seat to springboard her Presidential aspirations. Has there ever been a more evil person in the history of this country as that woman? "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves, did gyre and gimble in the wabe: all mimsey were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe." |
| JMS50 User ID: 75058502 United States08/10/2018 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ridiculous assumption that he is alive, let alone he is Q. But can imagine if he was he would be a shoe-in for election as POTUS ... except that those who can well remember JFK and Jr. as a little boy are all age 69+ now, hardly the demo who swings electoral votes. So his time for popularity basis his familial legacy to be elected as POTUS is over. Alternatively, if he had not been murdered, not only would he have received Clinton's Senate seat, but would already have been POTUS, 2008 to 2016, as Obama would have remained a nobody community organizer. Now, the calendar has advanced and JFK's sympathetic legacy that could transfer into votes in long gone basis demographics. |
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| 284dan User ID: 76650383 United States08/10/2018 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump and JFK Jr were good friends Hillary had him murdered to gain the senate seat The final prize was POTUS Trump knew she had him murdered and why Trump ran for POTUS to make sure she didnt win (took her prize, pay back for killing his friend) Her goal now is to take the POTUS from him through impeachment It`s OK to tell your Government No. Proud Patriot and Pro 2nd Amendment. Democrats Stole The 2020 Election. |
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| Ol'FlaGator User ID: 70434452 United States08/10/2018 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. Ol'FlaGator |
| FINGERPRINTS of the GODS User ID: 58686169 United States08/10/2018 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, he didn't know how to fly such advanced plane. It was too much for him to be able to fly in bad weather. I remember reading about how he was not qualified or licensed to fly the plane, something to that effect. There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. |
| deplorable scottfree User ID: 55483872 United States08/10/2018 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :Ol'FlaGator:MV8zODg3ODcxXzcwMDUyNDg2XzlDNTk5REM3] JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. Gotta disagree here. All you said could point just as easily to a faked death.... so of course he wouldn't want his IP with him. As far as your last sentence, I think the most likely and convincing cause of death is Hillary. She's got the track record and even old Occam would have to agree. She's the simplest answer. J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves. |
| deplorable scottfree User ID: 55483872 United States08/10/2018 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :Ol'FlaGator:MV8zODg3ODcxXzcwMDUyNDg2XzlDNTk5REM3] Quoting: deplorable scottfree JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. Gotta disagree here. All you said could point just as easily to a faked death.... so of course he wouldn't want his IP with him. As far as your last sentence, I think the most likely and convincing cause of death is Hillary. She's got the track record and even old Occam would have to agree. She's the simplest answer. That is if he is really dead. I'm starting to go with the fake death theory... I mean with the Kennedy money and the Onasis money... how hard would it be? J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves. |
| Ol'FlaGator User ID: 70434452 United States08/10/2018 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :Ol'FlaGator:MV8zODg3ODcxXzcwMDUyNDg2XzlDNTk5REM3] Quoting: deplorable scottfree JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. Gotta disagree here. All you said could point just as easily to a faked death.... so of course he wouldn't want his IP with him. As far as your last sentence, I think the most likely and convincing cause of death is Hillary. She's got the track record and even old Occam would have to agree. She's the simplest answer. That is if he is really dead. I'm starting to go with the fake death theory... I mean with the Kennedy money and the Onasis money... how hard would it be? I'm not disputing your right to your opinion, Scottfree. Would be interesting to hear in detail how you believe the crash was sabotaged in a way that was undetectable. NTSB investigators are pretty darn good sleuths. Ol'FlaGator |
| Agent MIB User ID: 76825381  Philippines08/10/2018 06:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed this in a previous thread. I live near a FAA investigator who, when I discussed the JFK Jr plane crash wouldn't discuss the matter. However, the official NTSB report places the blame on pilot error due to weather conditions (IFR conditions), which JFK Jr was NOT rated. He experienced "spatial disorientation", not rare during over water flight without horizon and lighting conditions to establish horizon. He and his passengers succumbed to the infamous "death spiral". A well known cause of many low flight time VFR pilots. No conspiracy here. You are born with the truth, then taught a lie. |
| Wookiee666 User ID: 62421844 United States08/10/2018 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK JR. Qanon? No I don't buy that at all. If anything that is a theory designed to make conspiracy people look stupid, just Like the Flat Earth theory did ha ha. Quoting: Bastila  Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
| -Issued Forth- User ID: 76560830  Canada08/10/2018 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. Quoting: Ol'FlaGator In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. VFR pilots know instruments enough to avoid flying into the sea ffs. Altimiter, vertical speed indicator and the artificial horizon ball... Fly much? |
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| beeches User ID: 74276477 United States08/10/2018 07:34 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. Quoting: Ol'FlaGator In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. this has been repeated ad nauseum but that does not make it true he had autopilot and was flying a familiar route. Are you a pilot yourself? Flying under the hood is a requirement. He was becoming certified to fly by instrument - not just at the beginning of the process, but farther along. having someone fly with him was part of that process. Not an admission of being unable to fly his plane without help. the plane may have been tampered with, most likely by placement of an explosive device with a barometric fuse on the tail. There is evidence he was fighting to right the plane til the last second. The women were facing the rear. This is from much study of pilot forums on this topic and from discussions with a general aviation pilot who cares deeply about the truth. not about hiding or defending any party - about finding out what happened that day. I am not a pilot. Last Edited by beeches on 08/10/2018 07:35 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| Ol'FlaGator User ID: 70434452 United States08/10/2018 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK,Jr. had very few flight hours. So few that his last instructor pilot was so concerned he offered to make the flight with him that evening/night. The offer was rejected. Quoting: Ol'FlaGator In the latter stage of the flight haze and darkness made it impossible to distinguish an horizon which called for flying solely on instruments. JFK, JR was not an instrument-rated pilot. It is highly likely he became spatially disoriented due to his inexperience flying under the conditions the aircraft encountered and inadvertently flew the plane into the sea. When the entire scenario is taken into account pilot error is the most likely and convincing cause of the crash. this has been repeated ad nauseum but that does not make it true he had autopilot and was flying a familiar route. Are you a pilot yourself? Flying under the hood is a requirement. He was becoming certified to fly by instrument - not just at the beginning of the process, but farther along. having someone fly with him was part of that process. Not an admission of being unable to fly his plane without help. the plane may have been tampered with, most likely by placement of an explosive device with a barometric fuse on the tail. There is evidence he was fighting to right the plane til the last second. The women were facing the rear. This is from much study of pilot forums on this topic and from discussions with a general aviation pilot who cares deeply about the truth. not about hiding or defending any party - about finding out what happened that day. I am not a pilot. Hi, beeches...I'm not looking for a fight here, just looking for the truth as you are. The sole best source of crash information is contained in the NTSB investigative report. That report shows JFK, Jr had an auto pilot but it was not engaged when the wreckage was found. He had completed only about half of the instrument rating training. The NTSB investigation showed nothing mechanical or structural on the aircraft wreckage that indicated anything amiss with the plane that would have led to the crash. Spatial disorientation accounts for erratic aircraft movements in the minutes/seconds leading up to impact in many crashes. Spatial disorientation combined with low flight hours and inexperience likely led to the sad consequences of JFK's flight. No, I'm not a pilot. I have spent over 50 years studying air crash investigations as a hobby...bizarre as that may sound. And no, I'm not an authority on aircrash investigation but I am knowledgeable on the subject. Based on that, I believe the NTSB report accurately reflected the cause. Ol'FlaGator |
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| Vision Thing User ID: 76743495 United States08/12/2018 11:03 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you see the video interview with Vincent Fusca the guy with the Trump van who some think is JFK jr in disguise (I'm more inclined to think he's a cover and that if JFK jr is alive he dressed up in a Vincent Fusca costume for plausibility). In the Vincent Fusca interview outside his Trump van he says he's been driving long distance and he's "disoriented" right now, repeats it several times, "so disoriented". It's entertaining to entertain the possibility that JFK jr might have faked his death and gone into hiding. Seriously for someone in his position, with rich and powerful friends (Trump and others) it wouldn't be that hard to do. Last Edited by Vision Thing on 08/12/2018 11:03 AM |
| Evangelina User ID: 74476876 United States08/12/2018 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it very interesting that most on this forum don't watch or believe MSM. However, on this subject.. they take the "NEWS" that was spoon fed to them as gospel. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] If you don't want this thread on here OP delete it. I only share because there is about all the info available on the net on here. Last Edited by Evangelina on 08/12/2018 11:26 AM You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
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| Yesterday ~ Today ~ Tomorrow User ID: 76107349 United States08/12/2018 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it very interesting that most on this forum don't watch or believe MSM. However, on this subject.. they take the "NEWS" that was spoon fed to them as gospel. Quoting: Evangelina [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] If you don't want this thread on here OP delete it. I only share because there is about all the info available on the net on here. Yes, but Only if it agrees with their position and ideology. They don’t even recognize that they are programmed. The news media has for the most been lying either by omission or in our face Blatant Lying on important isssures since it’s inception. Television in particular.....canned laughter is a lie also, one that programs the viewer into believing something is funny....when it’s not. I’ve never amused easily and have noticed this since I was a kid. Canned laughter? — a lie — Applause signs? — encouraging the audadience to Lie to Themselves.  Last Edited by Yesterday ~ TODAY ~ Tomorrow on 08/12/2018 12:40 PM |
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| ?allthings User ID: 73087255 United States08/12/2018 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JFK JR. Qanon? No I don't buy that at all. If anything that is a theory designed to make conspiracy people look stupid, just Like the Flat Earth theory did ha ha. Quoting: Bastila It sure did look like him and Caroline right in front at Trumps rally Yes, yes it did.  What is the likelihood that two doppelgängers would show up 2 times to a Trump rally,? Me thinks Q likes codes. The numbers tell truth. truthseeker |
