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What lying signs and wonders do you suppose the antichrist and false prophet will use at their disposal?

 
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Just answer me Photina,

Why does God call Jesus God?
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Son of God:

God Himself refers to Jesus as His Son: Mt 2:15, 3:17, 17:5, Mk 1:11, 9:7, Lk 9:35
Jesus says that he is the Son of God: Mt 26:63, Lk 22:70, Jn 5:25, 10:36, 19:7
The angel Gabriel says Jesus is the Son of God: Luke 1:35
Peter says that Jesus is the Son of God: Mt 16:16
John the Apostle says Jesus is the Son of God: Jn 20:31, 1 Jn 3:23, 4:15, 5:5
All the Apostles say Jesus is the Son of God: Mt 14:33, Jn 6:69
John the Baptist says Jesus is the Son of God: Jn 1:34
John Mark says Jesus is the Son of God: Mk 1:1
Paul says Jesus is the Son of God: Acts 9:20, Rom 1:4, 1 Cor 1:9, 2 Cor 1:19, Gal 2:20, Heb 4:14
Nathanael says Jesus is the Son of God: Jn 1:49
Demons say Jesus is the Son of God: Mt 8:29, Mk 3:11, 5:7, Lk 4:41, 8:28
The Centurion says Jesus is the Son of God: Mt 27:54, Mk

....

God the Son:

Nobody.

 Quoting: Photina


Except God calls the Son of Man God :)
And gives Him a Kingdom
And He sits on God's Throne

Dan 7:13  I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 
Dan 7:14  And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. 
 Quoting: x0dus


God is the Ancient of Days. The son of man is Jesus.

They are two separate beings. One is God, one is His Son.

The root cause of this disagreement is the trinity doctrine.

It forces you to be a hypocrite/liar

You pay lip service to God but deny that God is the Father alone.

Forces you to deny that the Son of God died on the cross.

It forces you to believe that God Himself died on the cross, not the Son of God as Jesus Himself says in John 3:16.

Just forget the trinity doctrine and start over.
 Quoting: Photina


I worship God and the Lamb. I try my best that it's not lip service. I fail at times.

God and His Son are both God, Elohim.

YHWH, Adonai, El Shaddai, El Elyon

Jesus, the messiah, the Christ, the anointed one, the savior, king, Lord

Both are God.

We can keep drawing this out until there are no more gigabytes if you want.
 Quoting: x0dus


The lamb is not God, the lamb is God's Son.

You do not separate them. Thus, you deny them both for what they are.

You are worshipping the creation rather than the Creator.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Just answer me Photina,

Why does God call Jesus God?
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He doesn't.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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JESUS SAID:

"...the Father SENT Me."..."the Father is GREATER than I."..."...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD."...I do ONLY the Father's Will."..."I PRAY to the Father."..."I give THANKS to the Father."..."I don't KNOW when I will return..."ONLY the Father KNOWS."...ask the Father in MY name."..."I go to sit at the Father's right hand."..."the Father has given me authority."

ETC ETC
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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OP, we do not believe in the same God and the same Jesus. You worship a false image of God and also you worship a false Christ. You are as it stands antichrist.

Last Edited by Photina on 08/10/2018 08:52 PM
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Re: What lying signs and wonders do you suppose the antichrist and false prophet will use at their disposal?
Just answer me Photina,

Why does God call Jesus God?
 Quoting: x0dus


He doesn't.
 Quoting: Photina


It's in Psalms and Hebrews, I've posted it twice now as a premise for the argument.

Why does God also, ALSO, command, COMMAND, the angels to WORSHIP Jesus?


Why is Jesus to be worshiped?

Since I have to repeat everything twice for you.

Why is Jesus to be worshiped?


BECAUSE HE IS DIVINE
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Re: What lying signs and wonders do you suppose the antichrist and false prophet will use at their disposal?
OP, we do not believe in the same God and the same Jesus. You worship a false image of God and also you worship a false Christ. You are as it stands antichrist.
 Quoting: Photina


No, according to your opinion I stand as antichrist.

Truthfully, I stand as myself with my testimony.

You don't even know who God is.
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I see this argument all the time. I look at it from a fathers point of view. My son is part of me. He gives me so much joy. What is mine is his.
What is his is mine.

Isn’t this why he gave his only son for us?

I don’t know if it’s coincidece but where I work there are approx. 7 men. 6 are atheists out of seven.

Now to the person that says the Pope and Obama are loved by God. I believe that. But they hate him back. And they will get wrath.

Obama is a Sunni. Pope is black Pope. I mean it’s possible. But pray for them.

A few politicians could get in in line with me to be beheaded but very few.
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OP, we do not believe in the same God and the same Jesus. You worship a false image of God and also you worship a false Christ. You are as it stands antichrist.
 Quoting: Photina


No, according to your opinion I stand as antichrist.

Truthfully, I stand as myself with my testimony.

You don't even know who God is.
 Quoting: x0dus


No, actually John calls you antichrist.

You deny that Jesus is the Son of God, so Biblically you are antichrist.

Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Son of God denies the Father who sent him.

Anyone who denies Jesus in the flesh will be denied by Jesus in front of His Father in Heaven.

God does not accept lip service and hates hypocrites.

Last Edited by Photina on 08/10/2018 09:00 PM
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Anybody who labels with the word antichrist, is throwing words around that carry weight.

We are in a Holy war, and waging war against God is treason.

You, Photina have charged me of treason, calling me antichrist.

I'm far greater than you if you want to pull a "rank card", and my testimony and myself, even this very body will be in glory.

God's grace is sufficient, even Christ the Lord.


You curse your brother, you deny His right to life every time you use your authority labelling others.


You curse me, because I bless others (no matter how great or small they are, you will not outstand my blessings in Spirit).


I pray your candlesticks are shaken, for you spread hatred and bigotry, and not saving grace truth that glorifies Jesus, even truth.

Love everybody, pray for everybody.

Let God handle what's in Spirit, and let Jesus intercede on our behalf.
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Re: What lying signs and wonders do you suppose the antichrist and false prophet will use at their disposal?
OP, we do not believe in the same God and the same Jesus. You worship a false image of God and also you worship a false Christ. You are as it stands antichrist.
 Quoting: Photina


No, according to your opinion I stand as antichrist.

Truthfully, I stand as myself with my testimony.

You don't even know who God is.
 Quoting: x0dus


No, actually John calls you antichrist.

You deny that Jesus is the Son of God, so Biblically you are antichrist.

Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Son of God denies the Father who sent him.

Anyone who denies Jesus in the flesh will be denied by Jesus in front of His Father in Heaven.

God does not accept lip service and hates hypocrites.
 Quoting: Photina


Okay, I guess I'm going to burn in the lake of fire for all eternity.

My mother will be weeping forever in heaven, my father too. I'll never get to climb Everest with my brother, and never get to meet my Nephew when he is healthy.

Calling me an antichrist...

You are sick.
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Needless to say, this sheep knows how to hunt wolf.
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Re: What lying signs and wonders do you suppose the antichrist and false prophet will use at their disposal?
OP, we do not believe in the same God and the same Jesus. You worship a false image of God and also you worship a false Christ. You are as it stands antichrist.
 Quoting: Photina


No, according to your opinion I stand as antichrist.

Truthfully, I stand as myself with my testimony.

You don't even know who God is.
 Quoting: x0dus


No, actually John calls you antichrist.

You deny that Jesus is the Son of God, so Biblically you are antichrist.

Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Son of God denies the Father who sent him.

Anyone who denies Jesus in the flesh will be denied by Jesus in front of His Father in Heaven.

God does not accept lip service and hates hypocrites.
 Quoting: Photina


Okay, I guess I'm going to burn in the lake of fire for all eternity.

My mother will be weeping forever in heaven, my father too. I'll never get to climb Everest with my brother, and never get to meet my Nephew when he is healthy.

Calling me an antichrist...

You are sick.
 Quoting: x0dus


You yourself take upon the name antichrist every time you insist that the man Jesus is not who he said he was, the Son of God.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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You are sick.
 Quoting: x0dus


What sorrow to those who call good evil..

Last Edited by Photina on 08/10/2018 09:04 PM
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Needless to say, this sheep knows how to hunt wolf.
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You call yourself a sheep, but speak like a dragon
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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You're probably the kind who doesn't believe alcohol will be heaven photina.


You're probably the kind that believes you are saved.

You're probably the kind that when asked if you think you're righteous.


Photina, are you righteous?

Since we both worship different Jesus', I'll walk with my faith with Jesus, and you walk with your Jesus.

If we meet again in heaven, and I don't burn forever.

I swear to GOD, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and all the angels, you better either 1.) Say you are sorry, 2.) Offer me a drink
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Does OP also believe that the "Holy spirit" of the trinity is GOD HIMSELF
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Hell doesn't exist OP. Nobody burns forever.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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You are sick.
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What sorrow to those who call good evil..
 Quoting: Photina


What good?
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Hell doesn't exist OP. Nobody burns forever.
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Great, then shut up.
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Does OP also believe that the "Holy spirit" of the trinity is GOD HIMSELF
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Hey Photina, suck my left nut :)
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Does OP also believe that the "Holy spirit" of the trinity is GOD HIMSELF
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Hey Photina, suck my left nut :)
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We are not defiled by what goes into our mouths but what comes out.

Don't you know that your tongue is your heart? And what comes out of your mouth proceeds from your heart?
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Put those "non lip service" lips to use and give my left nut a nice little pucker :)
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You are sick.
 Quoting: x0dus


What sorrow to those who call good evil..
 Quoting: Photina


What good?
 Quoting: x0dus


This living water I am giving you so graciously.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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You are sick.
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What sorrow to those who call good evil..
 Quoting: Photina


What good?
 Quoting: x0dus


This living water I am giving you so graciously.
 Quoting: Photina


You came to me :)
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You've exposed yourself as the sick one.

Take this as a lesson.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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And likewise you'll part from me :)
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You've exposed yourself as the sick one.

Take this as a lesson.
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Because I told you to kiss my nut?
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What sorrow to those who call good evil..
 Quoting: Photina


What good?
 Quoting: x0dus


This living water I am giving you so graciously.
 Quoting: Photina


You came to me :)
 Quoting: x0dus


Yeah I'm "selling" you wisdom for free.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Goodnight Photina.

Thank you for chatting, I'm sorry we have our disagreements.





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