If you have jury duty Monday and owe back taxes DO NOT SHOW UP!!!

i guess the prisons are below quota in head count, business is down , they need to refill, the prison oligarchs want more money.

I last served on a jury 14 years and actually enjoyed it... found it was nothing like what you see on TV.

Having said that, just last month I got a jury summons and immediately thought, well, FUCK! I'm not the same man I was 14 years ago... today I have PTSD and Major Depression... even took an early retirement due to all the stress, and I DON'T want to be locked up in a room with a bunch of asshole strangers.

The summons itelf really pissed me off, too. It demanded that -by law- I had to respond by completing an online questionnaire within 8 days or face a contempt of court charge! I figured, fuck 'em and waited two weeks before finally logging on to fill it out. In the box where they asked me if I thought I should be excused, I told them the truth: that my condition makes me really discriminating and that when I am challenged I become combative and intractable. I figured those three buzz-words would set off warning bells and sure enough... the very next day I got a phonecall for the Jury Office telling me I could be excused if I faxed a note from my Doctor [who hasn't treated me since I retired five years ago - turned out that my work was causing most of my issues so I got better after I bailed]. I explained that I was not under treatment at this time but still experience the symptoms when stress levels raise -which is also true- and that they really didn't want somebody like me sitting in a jury box.

The bitch told me I have to show up anyway and can discuss it with the Judge during the selection process!

On the appointed day [Aug 20th] I plan to show up unshaven and looking as shabby as I can - and am prepared to give the a show if that's what they want!

Another thing that royally pissed me off is that convicted felons can now serve on a jury if they haven't committed a crime in ten years; back when I was a kid once you were a convicted felon you automatically lost TWO things: the right to vote and the right to serve on a jury.

It's no wonder the judicial system is so fucked up and I want no part of it.

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I was called once but I got out of it because I work 24/7 on call in the oilfield and missing a job would have put My family under severe economic hardship.

Well I beg to differ....

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I would do jury duty willingly if they called me again. You should too. It's my duty to my fellow Americans to make sure that not only morons are on the jury.

Maybe the defendant will need someone who can see thru the prosecution's tricks. Would you want to send someone away due to crooked prosecution just because you couldn't be bothered to show up?

All you have to do is say YES when the DA asks if you are familiar with the case. There are hundreds of ways to get out of that bullshit.

Unless they send the summons by certified mail, I’m not opening it and as far as I’m concerned I never received it. Plus, the courts don’t want me as a juror anyways. I was diagnosed with a bad case of the fuck it’s a few years back and am worthless on a jury.

Yep!

Dirty bastards.

I've always had an issue with entrapment. So called "sting" operations like this that lure people into the intent to commit a crime, not the actual crime itself.

you're a moran and an idiot and you don't even understand why you even do what you do, and are asking others to do the same?! idiot! ( my best ren and stimpy voice ;^)

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Wesley Snipes Gets 3 Years for Not Filing Tax Returns ...


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Apr 25, 2008 · OCALA, Fla. — A federal judge on Thursday sentenced the actor Wesley Snipes to three years in prison for willfully failing to file tax returns. Mr. Snipes, who was convicted in February, received one year for each count, to be served consecutively, and an additional year of probation. The sentence


righto

Wow, just wow.

that makes absolutely no sense at all; if you "don't" file, you have not made a claim. If you do file and "lie" then you've incriminated yourself, thus justifying incarceration. If Wesley never made a claim, then how can they arrest him?? any attorney worth his salt could have gotten him off.

They don't jail people just because they OWE. People file taxes all the time, but are unable to make a payment. They don't go to jail. The IRS makes you pay interest if you have back taxes from year to year, and will eat your refund as a small payment. It's like having credit card debt. They LIKE when you owe back taxes and can't pay it because you keep giving them your refunds, and they keep charging interest.

People who don't FILE at all are hiding from them, and are not cooperating with the laws. That's what is a crime.

Important details to know. I see some people are hyperventilating saying it's illegal to owe any back taxes. It's not.

Failure to file your taxes is illegal. Filing your taxes, but not paying any amount because you are broke is NOT illegal.

You know what's illegal? NOT SHOWING UP FOR JURY DUTY.

Bad advice OP, stop telling people what to do, you're dangerous.

EVASION. EVASION. EVASION. EVASION. EVASION.

having a tax debt which you FILED is NOT EVASION. It's NOT illegal to have tax debt. EVASION is NOT filing, and HIDING from the IRS even though most of the time, it's a criminal with plenty of money to pay the taxes!
It is not a crime to file a zero payment filing.

Having back taxes which you filed as a partial payment or zero payment filing is not tax evasion though. Just to be clear for those who read this and don't differentiate. Tax evasion is avoiding, and hiding from the IRS because you have no plan to even file any taxes at all.

True. If I’m ever on trial I want a panel of judges to decide my fate unless I get to personally pick all 12 jurors and nobody else gets a say. We all know it doesn’t work that way though. 51 million people in the US have an IQ less than 85. No thanks. I’ll take my chances with the panel of judges that hopefully have a better ability to separate facts from their emotions.

Jeez what a bunch of deadbeats.

Jury duty is a responsibility for a lot of reasons but mainly to give a fair trial to your fellow Americans and should not be avoided or taken lightly.

Paying Taxes is not something we want to do and sometimes feel those monies are not spent correctly but how do you think infrastructure is paid for?

If you dont pay your taxes that means I have to pay even more so government can pay for Fire Protection, Police Protection, Road Maintenance and Social Services so you can stay home and play on the computer and write nonsense as seen in this thread.

And all the vitriol against the police here well I bet you would change your tune if there were no police in your city.

The last time I served it was for a civil case and none of us knew what it involved so that wasn't an option. I'm pretty sure the scenario you outlined only occurs in "high-profile" cases where some measure of publicity surrounds them... otherwise how WOULD you know about them in advance?

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I make less than 10,000 a year on SSA and I don't have to file taxes and I am NOT hiding from these crooks

Isn't that what they're prosecuting Manafort for right at this very moment? Not reporting a bunch of money and not paying taxes on it? and that happened 13 years ago!

To compare and contrast, half of the hideous crimes committed by Hillary Clinton which put our entire National Security into jeopardy are fast coming up on their "statute of limitations" which means that she walks away scott-free and pockets millions.

So, you can sell your country out to the Russians or the Red Chinese but for Pete's sake don't forget/neglect to pay your taxes!!!!

If you aren't required to file due to circumstances or income then you aren't included in what I said obviously.

Don't be stupid. Tax evasion is a crime, despite the fact that you are exempt because you have almost no income.

I remember back in the Vietnam War Years, when famous people like Joan Baez would make a big public deal about not paying their taxes to protest the war. The gov't just shrugged their bureaucratic shoulders, reached into the celebrities' bank accounts and TOOK what was owed, and Life went on.

I feel the same about unclaimed money where the state lists in the newspaper money owed. Several people think that this might also be used as a way to arrest you for something else.

I know someone who was afraid to claim like $300 from bed bath and beyond as they did not recall ever buying something there for that amount of money and never worked there either, so why would BB and B owe them $300 plus dollars. They never have claimed it.

Has anyone thought this before? Or known of anyone getting arrested this way?

fuck you pig! stupid nagger IRS boot lickers

LOL! You sure are right on THAT one! Last time I had Jury Duty I ended up paying more to park in their municipal parking lot than I got "paid", and I had to claim the $10 as "income". I'm sure it didn't make any difference in my overall taxes, but sure as heck if I hadn't they would have audited me or something and caught that I didn't report it!

Yes. In the Wash DC area they used to do a phony "you won tix to the REDSKEENS game so come get your free tix" scam. The Boo-boos can't refuse them NFL freebies and they scooped up dozens of warrant runners.

Look up jury nullification. The selection people will never pick you if you say you believe in it.

I live in NJ. Plenty of stupid and ungodly statute laws on the books that go against God or the Constitution or common sense. I am very much convinced of righteous jury nullification....so I will probably never be chosen to serve.