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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez OBLITERATES Fox News

 
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If you are not employed then the state pays, of course.

Our logic is, that it is not good, to let people become sick.

It is better to treat them.
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yes but how many hidden taxes do you have to pay for it??

i.e. Gas Tax, Vat Tax, Border Tax, payroll tax, Sales Tax ect....???
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No, it is not paid by tax.

It is paid like a health insurance. If you are employed you pay half and the employer pays the other half.

The current rate is around 14% of your salary.

So if you earn 1000€ per month, you pay 140€ health insurance.

If you earn more, you pay more, but not more than 680€ per month.
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Same in America but we are talking about people who

are not employed.

Under Trump's new plans Companies can compete across state

lines and can now form Insurance pools which will

dramatically decrease rates,

In some cases can cut rates in half if the pools are large enough.
 Quoting: jake


We have nationwide insurance companies as well, who compete against each other. Sometimes they merge together to save administrative costs.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


No not companies merging, I'm talking The Uninsured or insured

merging..

In other words a company in Ohio can pool up with a

company in Florida and get a much larger Discount on

buying insurance plans at a group or bulk rate.

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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
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No, it is not paid by tax.

It is paid like a health insurance. If you are employed you pay half and the employer pays the other half.

The current rate is around 14% of your salary.

So if you earn 1000€ per month, you pay 140€ health insurance.

If you earn more, you pay more, but not more than 680€ per month.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Same in America but we are talking about people who

are not employed.

Under Trump's new plans Companies can compete across state

lines and can now form Insurance pools which will

dramatically decrease rates,

In some cases can cut rates in half if the pools are large enough.
 Quoting: jake


We have nationwide insurance companies as well, who compete against each other. Sometimes they merge together to save administrative costs.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


No not companies merging, I'm talking The Uninsured or insured

merging..

In other words a company in Ohio can pool up with a

company in Florida and get a much larger Discount on

buying insurance plans at a group or bulk rate.
 Quoting: jake


Yeah, nice plan.

We both know nothing will come of it.

They will still fleece you.
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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
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The average american already gives 69% of their income

in one form of taxes or another

With insurance you would give about 80%
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Same in America but we are talking about people who

are not employed.

Under Trump's new plans Companies can compete across state

lines and can now form Insurance pools which will

dramatically decrease rates,

In some cases can cut rates in half if the pools are large enough.
 Quoting: jake


We have nationwide insurance companies as well, who compete against each other. Sometimes they merge together to save administrative costs.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


No not companies merging, I'm talking The Uninsured or insured

merging..

In other words a company in Ohio can pool up with a

company in Florida and get a much larger Discount on

buying insurance plans at a group or bulk rate.
 Quoting: jake


Yeah, nice plan.

We both know nothing will come of it.

They will still fleece you.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Have you ever worked for a large company and

had to purchase insurance for thousands of people??


The more people you have on your plan the cheaper

the plan prices are.
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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
 Quoting: Peerless Cockroach


Maybe if you wouldn't bomb one country after another, the world would be a better place.

Asshole.


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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
 Quoting: Peerless Cockroach


Maybe if you wouldn't bomb one country after another, the world would be a better place.

Asshole.


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I cannot argue with that

But you of all people are one to talk???


WW1 and WW2????


If not for them we wouldnt even have a military

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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
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The average american already gives 69% of their income

in one form of taxes or another

With insurance you would give about 80%
 Quoting: jake


First your numbers are completely nuts.

Second, american health care is already the most expensive.

Our system is literally cheaper.

You understand?
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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
 Quoting: Peerless Cockroach


The average american already gives 69% of their income

in one form of taxes or another

With insurance you would give about 80%
 Quoting: jake


First your numbers are completely nuts.

Second, american health care is already the most expensive.

Our system is literally cheaper.

You understand?
 Quoting: MeisterEder


No my numbers are not nuts if you add

all the hidden and middlemen taxes the people

of the USA pay, 70% of their income goes to taxes

we are the highest taxed nation on earth

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We have nationwide insurance companies as well, who compete against each other. Sometimes they merge together to save administrative costs.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


No not companies merging, I'm talking The Uninsured or insured

merging..

In other words a company in Ohio can pool up with a

company in Florida and get a much larger Discount on

buying insurance plans at a group or bulk rate.
 Quoting: jake


Yeah, nice plan.

We both know nothing will come of it.

They will still fleece you.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Have you ever worked for a large company and

had to purchase insurance for thousands of people??


The more people you have on your plan the cheaper

the plan prices are.
 Quoting: jake


Are you saying if a large number of people combine they have more power. Like in case of universal healthcare.

churchlady
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Let me ask you this?? How does germany pay for its healthcare?
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Probabaly with the welfare America gives it.

 Quoting: Chip


What welfare?

Are you nuts?
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Nope. You're even more broke than America. In fact....you're whole nation is about to take Europe tits up.

i know you've been brainwashed (severely) and you're not of sound and mind. But better you do some real research and realize that your nation is almost nein!

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How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

[link to www.thelocal.de (secure)]
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No not companies merging, I'm talking The Uninsured or insured

merging..

In other words a company in Ohio can pool up with a

company in Florida and get a much larger Discount on

buying insurance plans at a group or bulk rate.
 Quoting: jake


Yeah, nice plan.

We both know nothing will come of it.

They will still fleece you.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Have you ever worked for a large company and

had to purchase insurance for thousands of people??


The more people you have on your plan the cheaper

the plan prices are.
 Quoting: jake


Are you saying if a large number of people combine they have more power. Like in case of universal healthcare.

churchlady
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Yes but it is not Universal because you always have

the option to opt out of the system

Not with Universal healthcare, it is either taken out

of your check or you are taxed on it.

This is a simple free market solution where you can

opt in and opt out.
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The German obsessively trying to sell socialism is bizarre.

The only type of person stupid enough to give up 70% of their earnings to the government are the retards dense enough to give up their means of defense at the same time.

Enter Islam.

How a Western European can critique any way of life is a sign of moral degeneration accompanied by one too many pints.
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The average american already gives 69% of their income

in one form of taxes or another

With insurance you would give about 80%
 Quoting: jake


First your numbers are completely nuts.

Second, american health care is already the most expensive.

Our system is literally cheaper.

You understand?
 Quoting: MeisterEder


All lies. Even more hilarious is the fact that most of your "healthcare" is American born. Drugs, technology etc...

The problem is you're just too stupid to accept or realize the truth.
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Every heard of Merck? Thats the german company you guys nationalised in WW1.
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Probabaly with the welfare America gives it.

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What welfare?

Are you nuts?
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Nope. You're even more broke than America. In fact....you're whole nation is about to take Europe tits up.

i know you've been brainwashed (severely) and you're not of sound and mind. But better you do some real research and realize that your nation is almost nein!

 Quoting: Chip


How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

[link to www.thelocal.de (secure)]
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yes thanks to your sales to America
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Yeah, nice plan.

We both know nothing will come of it.

They will still fleece you.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Have you ever worked for a large company and

had to purchase insurance for thousands of people??


The more people you have on your plan the cheaper

the plan prices are.
 Quoting: jake


Are you saying if a large number of people combine they have more power. Like in case of universal healthcare.

churchlady
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Yes but it is not Universal because you always have

the option to opt out of the system

Not with Universal healthcare, it is either taken out

of your check or you are taxed on it.

This is a simple free market solution where you can

opt in and opt out.
 Quoting: jake


Opting out of healthcare is literally the most stupid thing anyone can do.

It's like saying, you should give people the option to opt out of car insurance.

Nuts.
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Have you ever worked for a large company and

had to purchase insurance for thousands of people??


The more people you have on your plan the cheaper

the plan prices are.
 Quoting: jake


Are you saying if a large number of people combine they have more power. Like in case of universal healthcare.

churchlady
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Yes but it is not Universal because you always have

the option to opt out of the system

Not with Universal healthcare, it is either taken out

of your check or you are taxed on it.

This is a simple free market solution where you can

opt in and opt out.
 Quoting: jake


Opting out of healthcare is literally the most stupid thing anyone can do.

It's like saying, you should give people the option to opt out of car insurance.

Nuts.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


I get your point but, what does a decent healthcare

plan in Germany cost? and how much is the deductible?
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What welfare?

Are you nuts?
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Nope. You're even more broke than America. In fact....you're whole nation is about to take Europe tits up.

i know you've been brainwashed (severely) and you're not of sound and mind. But better you do some real research and realize that your nation is almost nein!

 Quoting: Chip


How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

[link to www.thelocal.de (secure)]
 Quoting: MeisterEder


yes thanks to your sales to America
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So?

Thats how capitalism works.
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Nope. You're even more broke than America. In fact....you're whole nation is about to take Europe tits up.

i know you've been brainwashed (severely) and you're not of sound and mind. But better you do some real research and realize that your nation is almost nein!

 Quoting: Chip


How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

[link to www.thelocal.de (secure)]
 Quoting: MeisterEder


yes thanks to your sales to America
 Quoting: jake


So?

Thats how capitalism works.
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No that is how unfair trade works

and that is why Trump is going to tariff the EU
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What does insurance cost in Germany?
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Are you saying if a large number of people combine they have more power. Like in case of universal healthcare.

churchlady
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Yes but it is not Universal because you always have

the option to opt out of the system

Not with Universal healthcare, it is either taken out

of your check or you are taxed on it.

This is a simple free market solution where you can

opt in and opt out.
 Quoting: jake


Opting out of healthcare is literally the most stupid thing anyone can do.

It's like saying, you should give people the option to opt out of car insurance.

Nuts.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


I get your point but, what does a decent healthcare

plan in Germany cost? and how much is the deductible?
 Quoting: jake


There are no deductibles. Only in private insurance can you opt for a deductible.

As I said the play costs by how much you earn. 14% by current rate.

So if you earn 1000€ you pay 140€.

That rate is mandated by the government in accordance with the insurance companies.
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How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

[link to www.thelocal.de (secure)]
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yes thanks to your sales to America
 Quoting: jake


So?

Thats how capitalism works.
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No that is how unfair trade works

and that is why Trump is going to tariff the EU
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Actually our companies are the largest exporters of cars produced in the US.
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I would be less concerned with "Healthcare for All" if they first could define what "All". Does that mean American funded healthcare for The United States and South America? How is it even considered possible to have open borders and universal anything?
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Yes but it is not Universal because you always have

the option to opt out of the system

Not with Universal healthcare, it is either taken out

of your check or you are taxed on it.

This is a simple free market solution where you can

opt in and opt out.
 Quoting: jake


Opting out of healthcare is literally the most stupid thing anyone can do.

It's like saying, you should give people the option to opt out of car insurance.

Nuts.
 Quoting: MeisterEder


I get your point but, what does a decent healthcare

plan in Germany cost? and how much is the deductible?
 Quoting: jake


There are no deductibles. Only in private insurance can you opt for a deductible.

As I said the play costs by how much you earn. 14% by current rate.

So if you earn 1000€ you pay 140€.

That rate is mandated by the government in accordance with the insurance companies.
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Well that is less than half of what they charge in

America and why is that??


Because we have so many fucking worthless immigrants

that steal all our jobs and dont buy health insurance.
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What welfare?

Are you nuts?
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Nope. You're even more broke than America. In fact....you're whole nation is about to take Europe tits up.

i know you've been brainwashed (severely) and you're not of sound and mind. But better you do some real research and realize that your nation is almost nein!

 Quoting: Chip


How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

[link to www.thelocal.de (secure)]
 Quoting: MeisterEder


Lol...the minute America stops buying your overpriced shit cars and equalizes your anti-american trade horseshit bent on ripping us of...

Tariffs! You shitbrain.

You're fucked!

The only reason your nation is worth 2 shits is because of the cash cow called America.

You're an ungrateful bucket of donkey cum collecting flies with America.
 Quoting: Chip


rReally, if you sell somehting, that anyone else wants to buy, you think thats not earned money?

Who is the socialist here.

Mr dumbnuts?
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What does insurance cost in Germany?
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They take from paychecks voluntarily. But...they get great prices because of the WTO and NAFTA fucking America. The german fuck built his house on American hard work and now spits in our faces and laughs at us.
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look at the rates they pay less than half.
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I'm paying 950 a month with a 9,000 dollar deductible

for a middle of the road plan


I'm better off with no insurance at all


Because of OBAMACARE


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What does insurance cost in Germany?
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They take from paychecks voluntarily. But...they get great prices because of the WTO and NAFTA fucking America. The german fuck built his house on American hard work and now spits in our faces and laughs at us.
 Quoting: Chip


look at the rates they pay less than half.
 Quoting: jake


Yup...whey do you think our "healthcare" is so high? It's because Obama and the globalist commies of the world make US pay.

thinkaboutit
 Quoting: Chip


I know
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How often do I have to smack you across your ignorant head?

"Germany recorded record budget surplus of €36.6 billion last year"

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 Quoting: MeisterEder


Lol...the minute America stops buying your overpriced shit cars and equalizes your anti-american trade horseshit bent on ripping us of...

Tariffs! You shitbrain.

You're fucked!

The only reason your nation is worth 2 shits is because of the cash cow called America.

You're an ungrateful bucket of donkey cum collecting flies with America.
 Quoting: Chip


rReally, if you sell somehting, that anyone else wants to buy, you think thats not earned money?

Who is the socialist here.

 Quoting: MeisterEder


You are. Fuck Germany. Fuck the globe. We've been taking care of you puny stupid fucks for 75 fuckin years now.

We need to cut your ungrateful asses off and let you fall to chine.

You're all worthless to America.
 Quoting: Chip


Why would we be ungratefull if we sell you something that you want to buy?

You sound like soem deranged communist to me.
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We should just nuke Berlin

and call it done!
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