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"Before the Law", excerpt from "The Trial" published in 1925, by Franz Kafka

 
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Re: "Before the Law", excerpt from "The Trial" published in 1925, by Franz Kafka
OP and all viewers,

some of us can make this statement with sincerity:

"This is the story of my LIFE."

God, I need to write a book...Lord Willing...

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Tartar reference is term like musselman or mohamedden. They were a group that "converted" to islime.
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thanks for making that connection...will check that out sometime!

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WGON: I just read your Kafka excerpt. I'm a pretty well-read guy but never any Kafka. As I was reading that, it was like having deja vu. I know I've heard a very similar story before.

There is an alchemical treatise that built on the Rosicrucian Manifestos from the early 1600s ("Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz" to be exact). I don't recall the name of it nor the author, but I suspect Kafka is making an almost parable-like retort to that particular treatise. If I weren't headed to bed shortly I'd rummage through my library to find it, but I'm 95% certain that this Kafka piece is exactly that. In the original Alchemical treatise, the seeker at the gate overcomes the gate guards after some years & is enlightened after some travails. Or some such thing - read this stuff years ago & my memory is hazy.

I've seen similar narrative in some obscure Grail romance but can't recall which (too damned many of them, but it's in the vein of Fisher King stories). It irks the shit out of me that I can't remember the titles on this stuff.
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Thank you for this nugget. Food for thought
 Quoting: Loup Garou


If interested in reading 'The Chymical Wedding Of Christian Rosenkreuz '

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WGON: I just read your Kafka excerpt. I'm a pretty well-read guy but never any Kafka. As I was reading that, it was like having deja vu. I know I've heard a very similar story before.

There is an alchemical treatise that built on the Rosicrucian Manifestos from the early 1600s ("Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz" to be exact). I don't recall the name of it nor the author, but I suspect Kafka is making an almost parable-like retort to that particular treatise. If I weren't headed to bed shortly I'd rummage through my library to find it, but I'm 95% certain that this Kafka piece is exactly that. In the original Alchemical treatise, the seeker at the gate overcomes the gate guards after some years & is enlightened after some travails. Or some such thing - read this stuff years ago & my memory is hazy.

I've seen similar narrative in some obscure Grail romance but can't recall which (too damned many of them, but it's in the vein of Fisher King stories). It irks the shit out of me that I can't remember the titles on this stuff.
 Quoting: XeroGravity


I'd be interested to know what is is when you find it so I can read it. Kafka's stuff, specifically "The Trail" and "The Castle" and more generally most of his stuff reminds me of The Myth of Sisyphus by the way: the absudity of the rigged hopeless endeavor.
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Hawaiian Democrat Senator Mazie Keiko Hirono's "Court of Credibility" logically demands that:

"YOU ARE GUILTY. Prove you're not. And even if you do... we don't care."
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Thats Old testament law.

You have no rights.
You have no voice
You have no legitimacy
You have no advocate.
You have no place where they cannot follow to accuse you.

That is old testament law.

If you are not them, you are condemned.
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Chosen means they can accuse, you cannot refuse.

Thats what it means in real life, so it would behoove you to notice that they will not accept you winning against them.
IF you win with their rules, they will change the rules.
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this helicopter don't knows where it's flying, but it's flying with important task.
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this helicopter don't knows where it's flying, but it's flying with important task.
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notld6
WGON - "Your Eye In The Sky"

Through readiness and discipline, we are masters of our fate.
You might call that notion ironic.
But trust me, you'll come around.

Thread: We Are Literally Witnessing The First Stages Of The Global Zombie Apocalypse

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We've got to survive.
Somebody's got to survive!"

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