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Gov. Jerry Brown signed bill eliminating money bail in California

 
Sikhed

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08/29/2018 12:14 AM
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So if a criminal is released on his own recognizance, that means he can continue his criminal lifestyle, because his bail can't be revoked.

The stoopid is amazing! Only in Kalifornia (or the EU)
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08/29/2018 12:43 AM
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Good.

Lots of criminals somehow can always get bail money. Thats always pissed me off.
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Not good ... arrests can be political now with indefinite suspensions without bail is how I’m reading it
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08/29/2018 01:18 AM
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This system has worked and been a pillar of the legal system since 15 June 1215AD... And now he thinks better.
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Supposedly for non-violent offenses, but still crazy imo.

This state is going to become more of a zoo than it already is.
 Quoting: Adytum


Nah. I'm for it: lots of relatives got fleeced by bail bond companies for lesser serious charges.

Fuck those rackets.

Only downside I see, is flight and sprees. For nonviolent offenders. 40+ states will be doing this in 6 years I bet. Tremendous waste on bail, due process elevations requiring a stand in attorney too early in the process, the savings are only dulled by the bureaucracy of the assessment system they are proposing.

No bail changes for violent offenders.
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08/29/2018 01:46 AM
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Good.

Lots of criminals somehow can always get bail money. Thats always pissed me off.
 Quoting: PROnoun


Not good ... arrests can be political now with indefinite suspensions without bail is how I’m reading it
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


Me too!
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It seems everyone missed "California is at the forefront of a national campaign to end money bail that has also recently seen states like New Jersey and New Mexico adopt polices to circumvent the for-profit bail industry, though none had yet eliminated
bail entirely. (Hint; thus same law overhaul, is the reason those jihadists were allowed to be released in New Mexico)

ACLU’s Campaign for Smart Justice... The organization is involved with bail overhaul efforts in more than 30 other states.

California may be the first, but it is not going to be the only state to do this.
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You have to be out of your fricken mind to live or visit that shit hole, moron state. They are insane and are hanging themselves.

Let them all die.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


Uhhhh you are sure missing out. It’s a beautiful state and I’m proud to live here.
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The reason for bail purposes , is so that a system is in place to insure that people arrested
Will be brought back to court.without the police having to find them. Removing his will essentially allow people to just never show up to court
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Re: Gov. Jerry Brown signed bill eliminating money bail in California
Good.

Lots of criminals somehow can always get bail money. Thats always pissed me off.
 Quoting: PROnoun


Not good ... arrests can be political now with indefinite suspensions without bail is how I’m reading it
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


Me too!
 Quoting: Saint Kitty


Yes. I just got a serious look at the law. The courts will be able to decide the severity of the standards to keep someone jailed. If they want more prisoners, they can do that.

The algorithms that decide who stays and who goes free are designed by private corporations and their algorithms are proprietary. This means that, the standards they use to decide your fate are not discussed in open court. They will use a private algorithm like, let's just say your social credit score, and if you score low, you're stuck there no matter how trumped up the charges are.

Before you go thinking they only arrest criminals, I've been arrested three times in the state and they had to drop the charges all three times because they were false charges over a political issue.

The point is, this isn't about setting more criminals free. It's about having unlimited power to detain political dissidents. California just went full-blown gestapo. We are officially living in pre-WW2 Germany, and every last one of us has a yellow star on their arm.

This is fucked.
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10/15/2018 10:33 AM
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bumping because most missed the point. The police just became judgr, jury and executioner in Cali. This is the sort of shit governments pull before they start persecuting dissidents. They don't have to tell arrestees what factors they are using to grant or not grant freedom before trial. California can now arrest you and hold you indefinitely, even if you're innocent. We already have the largest prison population in the world, and now innocent people are going to get raped, abused and murdered right along with the guilty (most guilty prisoners are non violent and dont deserve it either.)

What if they used your internet history in their little algorithm. You think they'd let people who read this site go?
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10/15/2018 11:08 AM
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It doesn't really change much, most illegals tend to successfully disappear after making bail anyways.
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10/15/2018 01:21 PM
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It doesn't change who they release. It will still be mostly criminals released.

But now the state has the power to unlawfully detain law-abiding citizens based on an unknown algorithm that my include things like their internet search history

It changes EVERYTHING for law-abiding citizens who may find themselves jailed for political beliefs and unable to bail out
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This is a double win for Calibfornia.


they get to release Juan on a whim, yet
they get to hold Kanye West cause he "looks like a flight risk."

The Judge gets to divide decide?
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This is a double win for Calibfornia.


they get to release Juan on a whim, yet
they get to hold Kanye West cause he "looks like a flight risk."

The Judge gets to divide decide?
 Quoting: burneracct


you nailed it 100%
it's time to leave Cali. this is the sort of shit that Stalin and Mussolini pulled before their purges.
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all it means is that the jails are too full
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California just became a giant no-go zone.
 Quoting: fluffycat


They say the states are the laboratories of democracy. I am just thankful I don't live in one that is experimenting with such fucking stupid ideas.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


...a lot of them are evacuating the state, we have lots coming to CO....and they keep voting Democrat! What's that definition of insanity again...?
It's really getting bad here...Pueblo to the south has gone to hell, used to be called the "City of Heroes" with all the WWII vets from famous missions/battles...now a crime/gang ridden hellhole.

Not promising
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Re: Gov. Jerry Brown signed bill eliminating money bail in California
California just became a giant no-go zone.
 Quoting: fluffycat


They say the states are the laboratories of democracy. I am just thankful I don't live in one that is experimenting with such fucking stupid ideas.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


...a lot of them are evacuating the state, we have lots coming to CO....and they keep voting Democrat! What's that definition of insanity again...?
It's really getting bad here...Pueblo to the south has gone to hell, used to be called the "City of Heroes" with all the WWII vets from famous missions/battles...now a crime/gang ridden hellhole.

Not promising
 Quoting: hotdogg


I promise, I'll never vote Democrat.

Actually, I'm midwest born, not Cali, but husband is Cali. Even he is ready to go now and he'll never vote Dem again either, although he used to.

This is really, really, really bad. California is controlled by liberals, so if you're a conservative in this state, you can and will be persecuted.





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