Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM | |
da kat User ID: 35039915 United States 09/13/2018 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
wisconsin User ID: 4138330 United States 09/13/2018 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But evacuating the place AND being all hush hush about it would imply that it's something that they want to keep secret, yet everybody knows that they want to test lasers to recharge the drones it has been reported on internet, so it doesn't explain why they would be hush hush (and comment that it's for security reasons) when they could have just said yeah we kicked everyone out to test our lasers for drones and no one would have given a fuck. Quoting: Guitarist I don't think it's related coz it doesn't make sense to not comment about it. . ... EXACTLY! ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Yahella777 User ID: 76916434 Costa Rica 09/13/2018 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: da kat Oddly I've posted several relevant links to this thread with no problems but trying to post blog address for this story a half-dozen times & nothing happens, even previewing it or taking out [link to ] to deaden the link. So try googling these to see the photos: September 11, 2018 Maria G. Hill from Salem, Indiana [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] this ? If you Google those terms first hit is a UFO Blogger story on woman who photographed the sunset & got what she claimed is a mothership & UFOs. The photo looks a bit dodgey like Niburu photos but puzzlingly GLP won't post the link to the blog. The article headline: 6 More Solar Observatories closed and This could be the reason! [Edit– Probably the same woman but the photos on the blog post look a bit more like a UFO. My take since she uses a telephoto lens on her phone (!) is it's just lens flares but funny GLP won't post link unless all Blogger links are banned.] The vast majority of blogspot links are a no-no for some reason. ufosightingshotspot(DOT)blogspot(DOT) com/2018/09/6-more-solar-observatories-closed-and.html Thank you for the link :) Well it surely looks like UFO's to me. Yikes |
da kat User ID: 35039915 United States 09/13/2018 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I posted a link to a PDF earlier & this may be connected: Environmental Impact Statement for the Sacramento Peak Observatory Sunspot, New Mexico National Science Foundation February 2018 Cover Sheet Draft Environmental Impact Statement Sacramento Peak Observatory, Sunspot, Otero County, New Mexico Responsible/Lead Agency: The National Science Foundation Cooperating Agency: The United States Forest Service For more information, contact: Ms. Elizabeth Pentecost National Science Foundation, Division of Astronomical Sciences 2415 Eisenhower Avenue, Suite W9152 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 Public Comment Period: February 8, 2018 through March 26, 2018 To Submit a Comment: • Email to: • Mail to: [email protected] with subject line “Sacramento Peak Observatory” Ms. Elizabeth Pentecost, RE: Sacramento Peak Observatory National Science Foundation, Division of Astronomical Sciences 2415 Eisenhower Avenue, Suite W9152 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 Abstract: The National Science Foundation (NSF) has produced a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) to analyze the potential environmental impacts associated with proposed operational changes due to funding constraints for the Sacramento Peak Observatory in Sunspot, Otero County, New Mexico. The four Action Alternatives analyzed in the DEIS are as follows: 1) continued science- and educationfocused operations by interested parties with reduced NSF funding, 2) transition to partial operations by interested parties with reduced NSF funding, 3) mothballing of facilities, and 4) demolition and site restoration. Environmental resources and concerns considered in the DEIS are biological resources, cultural resources, visual resources, geology and soils, groundwater, hazardous materials, solid waste, health and safety, noise, socioeconomics, and traffic and transportation. [While this might kill some of the conspiracy drama, perhaps this is a preliminary killshot to close the facility down. The table of contents following the above breaks down the alternatives. My hunch is there's more based on the facts so far, but perhaps this is a mundane federal bumrush. Not easy to post links & have been getting captchas so will try linking next post.] |
da kat User ID: 35039915 United States 09/13/2018 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope GLP won't post so can Google the document title to review. I'd hate to think this solves the mystery though one could imagine the backlash in the science community if the govt were to demolish the facility & that might create a "security" concern regarding current employees. Edit– Not feeling good about this, seems like they flew this under the radar & is a conspiracy of sorts unfolding in front of us: [link to www.nsf.gov (secure)] Last Edited by da kat on 09/13/2018 03:43 PM |
wisconsin User ID: 4138330 United States 09/13/2018 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | per reddit user 'brglynn' September 11, 2018, 10:45AM Chinese were spying on White Sands Missile Range tests via antennae array at observatory site. . ... this would make sense AFTER I saw the drone footage ... from the observatory you could really see/observe a lot! ... . ... chinese are soooooo untrustworthy! ... . ... spooky that china and russia are doing war games together! ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
WatcherJ User ID: 76203656 United States 09/13/2018 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: + <3 + People still live there and need to get their mail I assume. Why close it at the same time the feds closed down the observatory unless it was used in whatever crime they think was comitted. Sorry if this sounds ignorant, but they have evacuated everyone there, no one to receive or send mail so why keep the post office that serves them open? You would reroute mail to the nearest post office and transfer employee's there, which was said in one of the articles that postal employee's of sunspot went to Cloud ?something? Oh, so you're saying the whole town has been evacuated? I didn't realize that. JEEZ how many times I gotta say this....try reading through the thread..... It is not a town. Sunspot is a facility/compound containing, observatory, staff housing and a tiny post office. The FACILITY/ COMPOUND has been closed and evacuated. Why would a little post office remain open. It is on the facility/compound. The facility is closed. This is the mystery, not the stink in' post office. The whole town is the employee's of the observatory and post office. It is a facility/compound and has housing for the people who work there. But your also missing the point of the post I got off fb. There has not been a scientist/astromoner and scope hasn't been running since December of 2017. So they didn't see anything. |
wisconsin User ID: 4138330 United States 09/13/2018 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... if the chinese spying is true ... our so-called INTELLIGENCE agencies should be SHUT DOWN! IMMEDIATELY! ... . ... all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they get?! ... seems their competence is inverse to the increase of money they get! ... . ... SICK! ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
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Terrebonne User ID: 76867093 United States 09/13/2018 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FBI and Blackhawk choppers: National Solar Observatory shuts over mysterious ‘security issue’ “The FBI is refusing to tell us what’s going on. We’ve got people up there (at Sunspot) that requested us to standby while they evacuate it. Nobody would really elaborate on any of the circumstances as to why. The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say.” [link to www.rt.com (secure)] NASA spacecraft captures moment the moon eclipses the sun twice in a matter of hours [link to twitter.com (secure)] . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
da kat User ID: 35039915 United States 09/13/2018 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Solar Observatory FBI Bumrush |
cosmicgypsy User ID: 74619032 United States 09/13/2018 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I found this, take it for what it's worth: Quoting: WatcherJ Can’t stand the conspiracy theories being circulated on the internet right now about Sunspot. As a 15-year former resident of the observatory, I offer to you the following FACTS: 1) Although the observatory runs under the auspices of AURA (the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy), operations of the National Solar Observatory have long since CEASED on the telescope. Any current research operations are being funded and utilized by New Mexico State University. There is only minimal NSO staff employed working at the site now and their full time focus is in continuing shut down operations in Sunspot. 2) There are minimal residents of Sunspot anymore. For that matter there only remains one NSO maintenance employee and his family plus a handful of support staff from NMSU living in housing. Most housing was vacated by former NSO employees (myself included) more than a year ago (and in some cases 2-3 years ago). 3) Radio astronomy has never been a “focus” of research conducted in Sunspot. Current data from the Dunn Solar Tower (if any) belongs to NMSU. 4) AURA operates under the auspices of the National Science Foundation, a federal agency. Therefore any kind of “investigation” or threat would be considered Federal, thus the FBI. 5) Although there is a moderate “G2” geomagnetic storm being reported at present (see: www.spaceweather.com). This is NOT necessarily an anomaly. These storms happen. Which is also why solar astronomers study the Sun. 6) Solar science has successfully been conducted in Sunspot since 1949. There has not been a full-time resident NSO solar scientist at the observatory since early 2017. 7) The phones are not being answered in Sunspot because the site is VACATED. (No conspiracy theory there.) 8) Any Mercury “spill” would fall under the auspices of OSHA. Mercury used in the Dunn Solar Tower is housed in a sealed turret at the top of the telescope and is monitored. 9) You Tube, the Internet and other non-fact based hypotheses are not based on scientific thought. Check your sources people! 10) Rumors of “aliens,” “alien contact,” etc. are nothing but nonsense. Hell, we even circulated a few of these funnies just for the laugh. 11) Official information should be released from AURA directly. 12) Finally, I want to add that there are many former residents and employees of the National Solar Observatory that are just as “in the dark” as the regular public. Making up disparaging comments about the science, the mission, and the community of Sunspot is not only repulsive but ignorant. We were once a proud little community with the best solar scientists in the world. The contributions of Sunspot and the National Solar Observatory at Sacramento Peak will continue to influence solar science for DECADES. As the former President of the Sunspot Community, I will always be a PROUD Sunspotter and like others would like to know the cause of such a closure. But I’m not willing to sit by and allow pseudoscience, and rumors tear down a legacy of scientific research. Please stop circulating non-verified FACT. From a current employee's fb page: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] His employment there is verifiable on a list someone posted of current employee's in this thread. His fb picture is the same one used on the employee list. Okay, that the facility was closing - EDIT: or that the operations were shutting down - is the same information I got back in 2015 from the retired AF man who said he ran the place. He told me he was trying to sell some of the equipment. BUT, as far as "aliens" go....I'm telling you straight up, I stood and watched a very, very, VERY large craft slowly lower down into Sac Mts. early one morning. It wasn't right at Sunspot, it sat down between Sunspot and Alamo, further back into the mountain range. Perhaps whatever that craft was didn't have diddlysquat to do with the observatory, but I know what I saw, and it was more than remarkable. Last Edited by cosmicgypsy on 09/13/2018 04:30 PM You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Pole Cat User ID: 62959895 United States 09/13/2018 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Popular Mechanics posted an article about it: Staff have been evacuated and the FBI has sent agents and a Blackhawk helicopter to the site, without telling anyone what's going on. [link to www.popularmechanics.com (secure)] CNET has an article on it too: [link to www.cnet.com (secure)] Good to see it's getting more coverage. Slowly, but surely. Last Edited by Pole Cat on 09/13/2018 04:31 PM |
NawtyBits User ID: 76665745 United States 09/13/2018 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't send in a Blackhawk full of agents anywhere with out a damn good reason, decommissioned or not. Helicopter "assaults" are NOT business as usual. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
LePALMA User ID: 74158905 United States 09/13/2018 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But evacuating the place AND being all hush hush about it would imply that it's something that they want to keep secret, yet everybody knows that they want to test lasers to recharge the drones it has been reported on internet, so it doesn't explain why they would be hush hush (and comment that it's for security reasons) when they could have just said yeah we kicked everyone out to test our lasers for drones and no one would have given a fuck. Quoting: Guitarist I don't think it's related coz it doesn't make sense to not comment about it. . ... EXACTLY! ... . Kirtland afb 4hrs north with quantum sensing laser drone active and Kirtland was mentioned in nbc article implying that Russians attacked tbose diplomats in cuba with microwave frequency. From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 09/13/2018 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings: nobody u know: User ID: 75873817 Quoting: ST In BG 09/12/2018 10:03 PM I would suggest it is either related to a nuclear test launch or the earth magnetic sphere is about to shift. **"Something Else" That Was "Seen/Detected" ... That Put The Fear/Concern Of .... Into Them !!!! .... Evacuate All Personnel That Doesn't Have .... "Clearance" ... Get As Much Information/Data On This ... As Possible !! ... Bring In What's Needed !! ... Keep This "Of A Need To Know" Basis !! **Yes ... Much MORE ... Then A Simple Terra/Earth Magnetic Polarity Shift ... Although This Is Included With The "Much More" Of What Was Seen ... & What Is Happening !! **Instead Of In The Movie Grease ... Where They Sing ... Grease Is The Word Is The Word Is The Word ... Make That ... "N" Is The Word ... is The Word Is The Word !! Farewell For Now !! ST In BG . ... china and russia have "war games" right now ... . ... but maybe it's not for "war"? ... . the Mother Ships are staging on the far side of the Sun? |
LePALMA User ID: 74158905 United States 09/13/2018 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Directed energy Directorate" Kirtlanddot. afdotmil Quantum sensing photons (ISR intelligence surveillance recon) Space based weapons Kirtland dot af dot mil U.S. officials suspect Russia in mystery 'attacks' on diplomats in Cuba, China NBCNews.com - 2 days ago Military handling storms now? Oh and scientists clued into secret wmd space based warfare/mindcontrol/"psychicdriving" implanting cues in mass with integrated A.I FBI can subpoena obscure intelligence gained through wittness and debrief They also investigate pre-security clearance From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
LePALMA User ID: 74158905 United States 09/13/2018 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a little too convenient to blame Russians for these remote frequency attacks (drones space based weapons) whilst subverting space based scientific research. From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Nutty Broad User ID: 44735494 United States 09/13/2018 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to clear up a possible explanation for this evacuation, there is not a single fire in the State of New Mexico at the moment. [link to inciweb.nwcg.gov (secure)] Incident list on WildCAD Altap dancerordo Dispatch Center [link to www.wildcad.net] Last Edited by Princess Nutty Broad II on 09/13/2018 07:23 PM |
Nutty Broad User ID: 44735494 United States 09/13/2018 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New Mexico State University Director has no idea why it closed either. Article dated today. Described the situation ad extremely calm. [link to www.kvia.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 09/13/2018 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New Mexico State University Director has no idea why it closed either. Article dated today. Described the situation ad extremely calm. Quoting: Nutty Broad [link to www.kvia.com (secure)] they probly threatened to kill her and her family. |
wisconsin User ID: 4138330 United States 09/13/2018 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay, that the facility was closing - EDIT: or that the operations were shutting down - is the same information I got back in 2015 from the retired AF man who said he ran the place. He told me he was trying to sell some of the equipment. Quoting: cosmicgypsy BUT, as far as "aliens" go....I'm telling you straight up, I stood and watched a very, very, VERY large craft slowly lower down into Sac Mts. early one morning. It wasn't right at Sunspot, it sat down between Sunspot and Alamo, further back into the mountain range. Perhaps whatever that craft was didn't have diddlysquat to do with the observatory, but I know what I saw, and it was more than remarkable. . ... here in nw wisconsin hubby saw a quiet, huge huge huge flying triangle cross the sky west to east a couple years ago ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
wisconsin User ID: 4138330 United States 09/13/2018 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... that would be such a hoot! ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
solar_0bsrvr User ID: 76931991 Japan 09/13/2018 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump just declared National Emergency status via executive order, blaming it on election hacking, which is complete B.S that happened ages ago. The last National Emergency was 9/11 and it gives powers to the Military. This is highly unusual. Anyone else joining the dots here ? |
Ostria1 User ID: 76908967 Greece 09/13/2018 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump just declared National Emergency status via executive order, blaming it on election hacking, which is complete B.S that happened ages ago. Quoting: solar_0bsrvr The last National Emergency was 9/11 and it gives powers to the Military. This is highly unusual. Anyone else joining the dots here ? Ostria |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76264892 United States 09/13/2018 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: + <3 + People still live there and need to get their mail I assume. Why close it at the same time the feds closed down the observatory unless it was used in whatever crime they think was comitted. Sorry if this sounds ignorant, but they have evacuated everyone there, no one to receive or send mail so why keep the post office that serves them open? You would reroute mail to the nearest post office and transfer employee's there, which was said in one of the articles that postal employee's of sunspot went to Cloud ?something? Oh, so you're saying the whole town has been evacuated? I didn't realize that. JEEZ how many times I gotta say this....try reading through the thread..... It is not a town. Sunspot is a facility/compound containing, observatory, staff housing and a tiny post office. The FACILITY/ COMPOUND has been closed and evacuated. Why would a little post office remain open. It is on the facility/compound. The facility is closed. This is the mystery, not the stink in' post office. Sorry, I'm not that interested in reading such a long thread, but thanks for the info. |
Ostria1 User ID: 76908967 Greece 09/13/2018 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I'm not that interested in reading such a long thread, but thanks for the info. Quoting: + <3 + check the map, it is a small mostly isolated area [link to www.google.gr (secure)] Ostria |
faezx User ID: 76934031 United States 09/13/2018 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's fucking unsettling that yesterday Trump both extended the 9/11 state of emergency and declared a new state of emergency for foreign interference in elections. Washington DC is also in a state of emergency because of the hurricane... I am convinced that whatever is going down in Sunspot will climax during the hurricane and be ignored because of it. I'm also wondering if the hole in the sun is connected to the 3 fucking hurricanes coming at the east coast... Poles flipping is definitely a possibility faezx |
SCRays9 User ID: 76930814 United States 09/13/2018 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump just declared National Emergency status via executive order, blaming it on election hacking, which is complete B.S that happened ages ago. Quoting: solar_0bsrvr The last National Emergency was 9/11 and it gives powers to the Military. This is highly unusual. Anyone else joining the dots here ? Trump is protecting the country from the election collusion that ahppened between the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and the DNC. OCTOBER WILL NOT BE A GOOD MONTH FOR YOU LIBERLAS. |
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