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The Events of 9/11 From a Professional Pilot's point of view

 
MissCleo

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The planes were CGI.

I'm afraid I'm useless at keeping track of links, so I can't point you to the evidence. But I can tell you there's a video taken from a helicopter that show the towers at a wide angle, then zooms in, and then the plane enters the frame and hits the tower. The thing is, there was no plane in the zoomed out part of the clip, which it would have to be if the plane was real!

Another thing is that a lot of people who were there report that they didn't see the planes personally, but someone nearby yelled out "OMG, a plane just hit the tower!" or something like that. Seems they had hired people to plant the idea so people would think they saw it, or at least not question those who say they did.
 Quoting: The Monk


Indeed. They took extreme measures to promote the plane hoax and try to keep it concealed. If everyone knew the planes were a hoax, it would reveal who organized everything and is in on the hoax. It also exposes the media as the propaganda tool that it is to sell the plane hoax to the world.
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


Believe none of what you read, and only half of what you see...
 Quoting: Capt Dan


The first propaganda came out of Egypt. Noam Chomsky was a big distributor of the story of the inside job. Agent Provacateur.

That version caught on like wildfire and sucked in the hoaxtards immediately.

In reality Saudi government was convicted of the operation. Under Islamic law they paid restitution and kept it silent, because they can under Totalitarian Dictatorship lockdown. But that was merely the funding. No one has been charged or convicted of mindset or desire of destruction, movement toward global domination... because they are one step ahead of the law. That's the scary part.
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OP, Weren't the terrorists have meant to train in a light aircraft and prior to the attacks never flown in 767? I wouldn't expect it to be an easy transition. Thoughts?
 Quoting: Didyabringyabongalong


Piping in about terrorist training.
From a young age these guys train.
Pan Am Lockerbie (1980's) was let out of jail for cancer by Scotland, returned to Libya and trained a new generation of terrorists who have been training since 2009.

The blind Santa Shiek pulled off the first WTC bombing in 1993, wasn't big enough to be called "the Awakening". He was the Imam connected to the recent compound in New Mexico training kids to shoot up schools. And Linda Sarsour who is organizing protests all around the US.

This movement to destroy America will not stop.
There are only 4 choices for people who want to kill us: they kill us, they come back to finish us off, they give up (not likely), they are detered by a stronger force against them.

Again, so if the desire to kill us is ever present yes, they will train on light aircraft. See recent Toronto incident... which had a direct response from a foreign government, will explain in PM if you like.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I don't doubt that there are some out there that are hell bent on bringing nothing but chaos, specifically to the U.S. even. And that motivation will see them go to great lengths to achieve their goal.

My query is directed more towards their competence in piloting a sophisticated machine after beginning their training the year before the attacks and the instructor stating they weren't anything special... In a Cessna.
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OP, Weren't the terrorists have meant to train in a light aircraft and prior to the attacks never flown in 767? I wouldn't expect it to be an easy transition. Thoughts?
 Quoting: Didyabringyabongalong


Piping in about terrorist training.
From a young age these guys train.
Pan Am Lockerbie (1980's) was let out of jail for cancer by Scotland, returned to Libya and trained a new generation of terrorists who have been training since 2009.

The blind Santa Shiek pulled off the first WTC bombing in 1993, wasn't big enough to be called "the Awakening". He was the Imam connected to the recent compound in New Mexico training kids to shoot up schools. And Linda Sarsour who is organizing protests all around the US.

This movement to destroy America will not stop.
There are only 4 choices for people who want to kill us: they kill us, they come back to finish us off, they give up (not likely), they are detered by a stronger force against them.

Again, so if the desire to kill us is ever present yes, they will train on light aircraft. See recent Toronto incident... which had a direct response from a foreign government, will explain in PM if you like.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I don't doubt that there are some out there that are hell bent on bringing nothing but chaos, specifically to the U.S. even. And that motivation will see them go to great lengths to achieve their goal.

My query is directed more towards their competence in piloting a sophisticated machine after beginning their training the year before the attacks and the instructor stating they weren't anything special... In a Cessna.
 Quoting: Didyabringyabongalong


Yes. there are phases of training.
99% of Islamic terrorists have college degrees in engineering, so yes the training for terrorism missions would be the same caliper as a higher education degree. They don't do it on a whim.

Since they are already indoctrinated into Islam their mindset is clear. Next would be all aspects of flight, then time tables, fitting in as an American (Atta's years of flying around the US, he was based in Boca Raton Florida for the wealth demographics).

Many cells come together hours before the actual operation. They train separately and pass tests in order to become top of their ranking. They are not wannabes or lone wolves.

They took advantage of US flight schools to also learn American culture and flight languages, airport codes and innerworkings and get to know the rankings of American pilots and airlines.

answer?
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Capt. Dan,

If MH370 was remote controlled could it have fit into regular airspace over Pakistan or Afghanistan, say for instance taking a position of a plane that had been circling for 6 hours and fell off around the same time MH370 would have entered that airspace? Can call signs be changed in the air? Does local air traffic report those incidents?

Thanks!
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The planes were CGI.

I'm afraid I'm useless at keeping track of links, so I can't point you to the evidence. But I can tell you there's a video taken from a helicopter that show the towers at a wide angle, then zooms in, and then the plane enters the frame and hits the tower. The thing is, there was no plane in the zoomed out part of the clip, which it would have to be if the plane was real!

Another thing is that a lot of people who were there report that they didn't see the planes personally, but someone nearby yelled out "OMG, a plane just hit the tower!" or something like that. Seems they had hired people to plant the idea so people would think they saw it, or at least not question those who say they did.
 Quoting: The Monk


Indeed. They took extreme measures to promote the plane hoax and try to keep it concealed. If everyone knew the planes were a hoax, it would reveal who organized everything and is in on the hoax. It also exposes the media as the propaganda tool that it is to sell the plane hoax to the world.
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


Believe none of what you read, and only half of what you see...
 Quoting: Capt Dan


I don't believe anything I see until I test it. The fake planes have been thoroughly tested. All variables point to hoax.
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OP, Weren't the terrorists have meant to train in a light aircraft and prior to the attacks never flown in 767? I wouldn't expect it to be an easy transition. Thoughts?
 Quoting: Didyabringyabongalong


Piping in about terrorist training.
From a young age these guys train.
Pan Am Lockerbie (1980's) was let out of jail for cancer by Scotland, returned to Libya and trained a new generation of terrorists who have been training since 2009.

The blind Santa Shiek pulled off the first WTC bombing in 1993, wasn't big enough to be called "the Awakening". He was the Imam connected to the recent compound in New Mexico training kids to shoot up schools. And Linda Sarsour who is organizing protests all around the US.

This movement to destroy America will not stop.
There are only 4 choices for people who want to kill us: they kill us, they come back to finish us off, they give up (not likely), they are detered by a stronger force against them.

Again, so if the desire to kill us is ever present yes, they will train on light aircraft. See recent Toronto incident... which had a direct response from a foreign government, will explain in PM if you like.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I don't doubt that there are some out there that are hell bent on bringing nothing but chaos, specifically to the U.S. even. And that motivation will see them go to great lengths to achieve their goal.

My query is directed more towards their competence in piloting a sophisticated machine after beginning their training the year before the attacks and the instructor stating they weren't anything special... In a Cessna.
 Quoting: Didyabringyabongalong


Yes. there are phases of training.
99% of Islamic terrorists have college degrees in engineering, so yes the training for terrorism missions would be the same caliper as a higher education degree. They don't do it on a whim.

Since they are already indoctrinated into Islam their mindset is clear. Next would be all aspects of flight, then time tables, fitting in as an American (Atta's years of flying around the US, he was based in Boca Raton Florida for the wealth demographics).

Many cells come together hours before the actual operation. They train separately and pass tests in order to become top of their ranking. They are not wannabes or lone wolves.

They took advantage of US flight schools to also learn American culture and flight languages, airport codes and innerworkings and get to know the rankings of American pilots and airlines.

answer?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Keep promoting the Muslim plane hoax. I highly doubt 99% of extremist Muslims living in desert huts have college degrees. Did they also teach them how to keep their passports in mint condition when in a plane crash?
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Planes can fall apart at 33,000 ft.in thin air if pushed too hard, but those magic 9/11 planes were indestructible.
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simple google search: "Terrorist Mohamed Atta was born in Egypt in 1968. He studied at Cairo University, earning his degree in 1990. Atta then studied at Hamburg Technical University for several years, completing his studies in 1999. While a student, he traveled to Afghanistan where he trained with al Qaeda. In 2001, Atta … trained as a flight pilot in Florida"
[link to www.biography.com (secure)]

10 years of training after college.
30 years of Islamic jihad.
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Thank you!! Awesome post!!
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Pilots land on a small strip of runway on virtually every landing..and most of those are manual--not autoland or computer assisted.

Sorry, but I'm not buying this, have been on WAY too many flights where they drop the plane right in the middle of the landing strip.

Calling BS on this one.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


When you call bullshit, make sure you tell him fully your observations regarding planes landing on small strips of landing strips..

We will know when you have done this because we will be able to hear him laughing at your absurd reasoning.

Try again.
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simple google search: "Terrorist Mohamed Atta was born in Egypt in 1968. He studied at Cairo University, earning his degree in 1990. Atta then studied at Hamburg Technical University for several years, completing his studies in 1999. While a student, he traveled to Afghanistan where he trained with al Qaeda. In 2001, Atta … trained as a flight pilot in Florida"
[link to www.biography.com (secure)]

10 years of training after college.
30 years of Islamic jihad.
 Quoting: MissCleo


If you were honestly questioning 9/11, you wouldn't cite some bs like that as any sort of evidence or proof of anything. I guess since it's written somewhere it's true right? Can you personally test and verify everything written there?
There were no Muslim terrorists because there were no planes. The real terrorists were the media that pulled the hoax off and sold it to the public. Not even planes shown on T.V. can be assumed real and you think written info written on an alleged terrorist can be?

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Planes can fall apart at 33,000 ft.in thin air if pushed too hard, but those magic 9/11 planes were indestructible.
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500 mph at sea level is like trying to fly a plane through concrete
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Like Arthritis for instance
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Planes can fall apart at 33,000 ft.in thin air if pushed too hard, but those magic 9/11 planes were indestructible.
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


500 mph at sea level is like trying to fly a plane through concrete
 Quoting: lurcher1


Exactly, the fragile plane would probably fall apart. Planes are brought down by bird strikes and hail.
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As some of my GLP family knows I have been a commercial pilot for 30 years now. I have been in aviation management for 25 of those years.

In 2001, I was Chief Pilot and Check Airman for a small charter airline (5 B737 aircraft) based in the western US. In September of that year I had just hired a new class of 8 pilots and, having already trained them in their basic indoc and ground portion of the airline training syllabus, had flown them to Phoenix for their simulator training.

On the morning of Sep 11th I was in the middle of training session 3 with an upgrading Captain and a new-hire First Officer. We had come out of the simulator for our mid-session break to piss, have a cup of coffee and swap seats when we saw the pilots that were training in the other simulator (who were also on their break) huddled around a TV set in the briefing room. One of the pilots turned around and, with a solemn look, told us that an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Behind him on the TV was the smoking tower with a frantic commentator rambling about whether or not it was terrorism.

I won't bore you with the rest of the details, but suffice it to say that I knew that there would not be any new class of pilots hired. They knew it too.

Because I (the airline) had already paid for the simulator time, and there was no way to fly everyone back home because all the air traffic was grounded, I decided to continue their training sessions for the rest of that week. I would then sign off their training and immediately furlough them - eventually hiring most of them back months later.

The next day as we were finishing up the 4 hour simulator session #4, I positioned the aircraft virtually on the runway at Boston Logan airport. I told the crew that we were going to try an experiment. I asked the more experienced of the two; the upgrading captain, to take off, fly to New York City and hit one of the towers. This was a very well-qualified upgrading pilot that had thousands of flight hours and hundreds in the right seat of a 737.

He took off and visually made his way to NY for the roughly 30 minute flight. In order not to waste time, I put the simulator on double-speed during the cruise portion. He then identified the twin towers - they are not hard to see - and headed straight for them...

AND HE MISSED! He muttered something about how hard it was to line up on them and asked me to back him up so he could try again. And AGAIN he MISSED! After several attempts, he was able to hit one of them by slowing way down to almost landing speed - flaps and gear down.

I subsequently tried the same exercise with all of the pilots and they all had trouble hitting such a narrow target at high speed. The new pilots didn't even come close. When they slowed way down, they were more successful but still commented on how challenging it was.

Now, bear in mind, these were very experienced professional pilots.

So tell me how did a bunch of Arabs with very little training perform such a feat? We all knew then that we were not being told the truth about the events of that day!

I have since told this story to many people. I have had several radio interviews about my experience and help found Pilots for 911 Truth. Below is one of the interviews I gave a couple years later.

Capt Dan


 Quoting: Capt Dan


Nice to have you here, Captain Dan. I've been a FB fan of yours for several years!bump
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No Planes,TAKEN FROM A HELICOPTER

[link to bit.tube (secure)]

wtf
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for hours now i've tried this link it just spins for me and will not play.

Would you have a YT link or viemo?
 Quoting: LunaFlora


This might be the one?

Raw helicopter footage, no plane visible on second tower "strike".


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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As some of my GLP family knows I have been a commercial pilot for 30 years now. I have been in aviation management for 25 of those years.

In 2001, I was Chief Pilot and Check Airman for a small charter airline (5 B737 aircraft) based in the western US. In September of that year I had just hired a new class of 8 pilots and, having already trained them in their basic indoc and ground portion of the airline training syllabus, had flown them to Phoenix for their simulator training.

On the morning of Sep 11th I was in the middle of training session 3 with an upgrading Captain and a new-hire First Officer. We had come out of the simulator for our mid-session break to piss, have a cup of coffee and swap seats when we saw the pilots that were training in the other simulator (who were also on their break) huddled around a TV set in the briefing room. One of the pilots turned around and, with a solemn look, told us that an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Behind him on the TV was the smoking tower with a frantic commentator rambling about whether or not it was terrorism.

I won't bore you with the rest of the details, but suffice it to say that I knew that there would not be any new class of pilots hired. They knew it too.

Because I (the airline) had already paid for the simulator time, and there was no way to fly everyone back home because all the air traffic was grounded, I decided to continue their training sessions for the rest of that week. I would then sign off their training and immediately furlough them - eventually hiring most of them back months later.

The next day as we were finishing up the 4 hour simulator session #4, I positioned the aircraft virtually on the runway at Boston Logan airport. I told the crew that we were going to try an experiment. I asked the more experienced of the two; the upgrading captain, to take off, fly to New York City and hit one of the towers. This was a very well-qualified upgrading pilot that had thousands of flight hours and hundreds in the right seat of a 737.

He took off and visually made his way to NY for the roughly 30 minute flight. In order not to waste time, I put the simulator on double-speed during the cruise portion. He then identified the twin towers - they are not hard to see - and headed straight for them...

AND HE MISSED! He muttered something about how hard it was to line up on them and asked me to back him up so he could try again. And AGAIN he MISSED! After several attempts, he was able to hit one of them by slowing way down to almost landing speed - flaps and gear down.

I subsequently tried the same exercise with all of the pilots and they all had trouble hitting such a narrow target at high speed. The new pilots didn't even come close. When they slowed way down, they were more successful but still commented on how challenging it was.

Now, bear in mind, these were very experienced professional pilots.

So tell me how did a bunch of Arabs with very little training perform such a feat? We all knew then that we were not being told the truth about the events of that day!

I have since told this story to many people. I have had several radio interviews about my experience and help found Pilots for 911 Truth. Below is one of the interviews I gave a couple years later.

Capt Dan


 Quoting: Capt Dan


BINGO!!

This red flag stuck out in my mind on 9/11 and has never been successfully explained-away by TPTB. For a bunch of camel jockeys who couldn't even handle a 172 (according to their instructors in Florida) to both successfully commandeer and maneuver to 3/4 targets those jumbo jets - and all on their first try - defies logic.

The people that pulled this off are laughing at the stupidity of your average flag-waving American.
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simple google search: "Terrorist Mohamed Atta was born in Egypt in 1968. He studied at Cairo University, earning his degree in 1990. Atta then studied at Hamburg Technical University for several years, completing his studies in 1999. While a student, he traveled to Afghanistan where he trained with al Qaeda. In 2001, Atta … trained as a flight pilot in Florida"
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10 years of training after college.
30 years of Islamic jihad.
 Quoting: MissCleo


If you were honestly questioning 9/11, you wouldn't cite some bs like that as any sort of evidence or proof of anything. I guess since it's written somewhere it's true right? Can you personally test and verify everything written there?
There were no Muslim terrorists because there were no planes. The real terrorists were the media that pulled the hoax off and sold it to the public. Not even planes shown on T.V. can be assumed real and you think written info written on an alleged terrorist can be?
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


I don't believe the camel jockeys flew those planes. But I was living in West Bergen, NJ at the time and saw the second plane (or something looking very much like a commercial aircraft) hit the tower. I won't go so far to say it was a commercial jet as I couldn't see any markings at that speed, but it clearly looked and sounded like an airliner to me.
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No Planes,TAKEN FROM A HELICOPTER

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wtf
 Quoting: joop


for hours now i've tried this link it just spins for me and will not play.

Would you have a YT link or viemo?
 Quoting: LunaFlora


This might be the one?

Raw helicopter footage, no plane visible on second tower "strike".


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: C.K. Dexter Haven


On closer look, I think that clip may have been edited?

At 2:15 notice the object enter in the upper right and then promptly disappear.

I remembered seeing this footage before where that ball(?) continues it's trajectory appearing to coincide with the explosion.

Here is a more complete version of that same footage. In this one the ball(?) remains visible as it approaches the tower. It appears at 1:52.


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What is it? It sure doesn't look like a 757.
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simple google search: "Terrorist Mohamed Atta was born in Egypt in 1968. He studied at Cairo University, earning his degree in 1990. Atta then studied at Hamburg Technical University for several years, completing his studies in 1999. While a student, he traveled to Afghanistan where he trained with al Qaeda. In 2001, Atta … trained as a flight pilot in Florida"
[link to www.biography.com (secure)]

10 years of training after college.
30 years of Islamic jihad.
 Quoting: MissCleo


If you were honestly questioning 9/11, you wouldn't cite some bs like that as any sort of evidence or proof of anything. I guess since it's written somewhere it's true right? Can you personally test and verify everything written there?
There were no Muslim terrorists because there were no planes. The real terrorists were the media that pulled the hoax off and sold it to the public. Not even planes shown on T.V. can be assumed real and you think written info written on an alleged terrorist can be?
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


I don't believe the camel jockeys flew those planes. But I was living in West Bergen, NJ at the time and saw the second plane (or something looking very much like a commercial aircraft) hit the tower. I won't go so far to say it was a commercial jet as I couldn't see any markings at that speed, but it clearly looked and sounded like an airliner to me.
 Quoting: Gary Shillingstein


I am highly suspicious of anyone that claims to have seen planes on 9/11 because of the video fuckery, mass misinformation, and many eyewitnesses who claimed there were no planes. I don't rule out possible cruise missiles , but certainly no planes. If they had real planes to show, they wouldn't need all the poor quality video fuckery.
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Based on some quick research, the width of a large international runway is around 260 feet, the WTCs were 208 feet wide. So there isn't that much discrepancy between the two.


However--based on Capt Dan's comments, the 911 planes were flying much faster than a normal landing---correct? If that's the case, then his analysis would make much more sense.

However, I do know this---if your front landing gear hits first it doesn't make for a happy landing, as I experienced at LaGuardia a number of years ago as a passenger.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


One of the planes was supposed to be traveling near 500 mph.

I believe normal landing speed is around 180.

Can you really maneuver at such a high speed so low to the ground in the thicker, heavier air?

Also, how does a complete novice decrease altitude and then resume level flight at almost cruising speed at only 1000' or so off the ground?

Finally, a question for Capt Dan. My cousin is also a pilot and I asked him about the speed at low level altitude and he said there is an 'envelope' that would be challenging. But he brought up navigation and indicated that would have been a challenge. I assume he meant that 'the box' would not be working since that was not the programmed route. But how does one navigate a high jacked plane? Can you do it via dead reckoning in the cockpit?
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I don't know what happened at the towers, but it's pretty clear that whatever hit the Pentagon was not a 757. Maybe a drone could perform the tight maneuvers you pilots say a 757 could not do?

Plus, there's obviously no airliner wreckage at the impact site.


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I don't know what happened at the towers, but it's pretty clear that whatever hit the Pentagon was not a 757. Maybe a drone could perform the tight maneuvers you pilots say a 757 could not do?

Plus, there's obviously no airliner wreckage at the impact site.


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The hole that I saw looked like a missile impact or just CD. It's interesting the provided so many videos of the fake planes hitting the TT and don't do the same for the Pentagon.
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So, since we have a professional pilot here...do you see a curvature from up in the air?
In a room full of lies the truth looks insane.
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I don't know what happened at the towers, but it's pretty clear that whatever hit the Pentagon was not a 757. Maybe a drone could perform the tight maneuvers you pilots say a 757 could not do?

Plus, there's obviously no airliner wreckage at the impact site.


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 Quoting: C.K. Dexter Haven


The hole that I saw looked like a missile impact or just CD. It's interesting the provided so many videos of the fake planes hitting the TT and don't do the same for the Pentagon.
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


There must be dozens of video cameras on that building - and have been for years before 2001. One time as college sudent in the 80s we got lost near the Pentagon and ended up in the parking lot late at night and ended up right at the front door of the building. No secure gate, no challenge. I am sure we were on video and am sure someone was watching.

One completely crappy video - ridiculous, completely ridiculous to comprehend.
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I don't know what happened at the towers, but it's pretty clear that whatever hit the Pentagon was not a 757. Maybe a drone could perform the tight maneuvers you pilots say a 757 could not do?

Plus, there's obviously no airliner wreckage at the impact site.


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The hole that I saw looked like a missile impact or just CD. It's interesting the provided so many videos of the fake planes hitting the TT and don't do the same for the Pentagon.
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so you're a video expert? where do you work, and what do you do?
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I don't know what happened at the towers, but it's pretty clear that whatever hit the Pentagon was not a 757. Maybe a drone could perform the tight maneuvers you pilots say a 757 could not do?

Plus, there's obviously no airliner wreckage at the impact site.


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 Quoting: C.K. Dexter Haven


The hole that I saw looked like a missile impact or just CD. It's interesting the provided so many videos of the fake planes hitting the TT and don't do the same for the Pentagon.
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


There must be dozens of video cameras on that building - and have been for years before 2001. One time as college sudent in the 80s we got lost near the Pentagon and ended up in the parking lot late at night and ended up right at the front door of the building. No secure gate, no challenge. I am sure we were on video and am sure someone was watching.

One completely crappy video - ridiculous, completely ridiculous to comprehend.
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There are hundreds on cameras on a place that secure. There is no excuse for no videos showing an undeniable non CGI plane. There is so much 9/11 fuckery that they couldn't cover all the angles. It's much harder to hide lies than it is to show the truth.
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Re: The Events of 9/11 From a Professional Pilot's point of view
I don't know what happened at the towers, but it's pretty clear that whatever hit the Pentagon was not a 757. Maybe a drone could perform the tight maneuvers you pilots say a 757 could not do?

Plus, there's obviously no airliner wreckage at the impact site.


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 Quoting: C.K. Dexter Haven


The hole that I saw looked like a missile impact or just CD. It's interesting the provided so many videos of the fake planes hitting the TT and don't do the same for the Pentagon.
 Quoting: Thoseaintcontrails


so you're a video expert? where do you work, and what do you do?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Are you an expert showing links and analyzing fake terrorist profiles? Where do you work and what do you do? You don't wanna have this conversation, just ignore my posts, it will benefit your propaganda tactics.

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Re: The Events of 9/11 From a Professional Pilot's point of view
The pentagon strike would be impossible unless electronic beacons were placed to help the plane set up a glide slope. have you ever looked out the window while sitting in the pilots seat? You can't see anything below you.

And no cameras? Somewhere there would have been a camera running that would have captured the image of a plane, not a blur.

Didn't happen the way they said.
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