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The Events of 9/11 From a Professional Pilot's point of view

 
Thoseaintcontrails

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The pentagon strike would be impossible unless electronic beacons were placed to help the plane set up a glide slope. have you ever looked out the window while sitting in the pilots seat? You can't see anything below you.

And no cameras? Somewhere there would have been a camera running that would have captured the image of a plane, not a blur.

Didn't happen the way they said.
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These were magic terrorists with magic planes. They just plugged it into the GPS at what spots they wanted to hit. Didn't you know they were college educated? Lmao
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The planes were CGI.

I'm afraid I'm useless at keeping track of links, so I can't point you to the evidence. But I can tell you there's a video taken from a helicopter that show the towers at a wide angle, then zooms in, and then the plane enters the frame and hits the tower. The thing is, there was no plane in the zoomed out part of the clip, which it would have to be if the plane was real!

Another thing is that a lot of people who were there report that they didn't see the planes personally, but someone nearby yelled out "OMG, a plane just hit the tower!" or something like that. Seems they had hired people to plant the idea so people would think they saw it, or at least not question those who say they did.
 Quoting: The Monk


This.

Computer graphics pumped out to all stations, with minor changes to each broadcast to make them seem like they were covering it live. Nothing we saw on tell-a-vision regarding those planes were live. That’s what I believe.


And thank you Capt Dan for your insight.
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3 & 1/2 minute video of what went down on 9/11




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The planes were CGI.

I'm afraid I'm useless at keeping track of links, so I can't point you to the evidence. But I can tell you there's a video taken from a helicopter that show the towers at a wide angle, then zooms in, and then the plane enters the frame and hits the tower. The thing is, there was no plane in the zoomed out part of the clip, which it would have to be if the plane was real!

Another thing is that a lot of people who were there report that they didn't see the planes personally, but someone nearby yelled out "OMG, a plane just hit the tower!" or something like that. Seems they had hired people to plant the idea so people would think they saw it, or at least not question those who say they did.
 Quoting: The Monk


This.

Computer graphics pumped out to all stations, with minor changes to each broadcast to make them seem like they were covering it live. Nothing we saw on tell-a-vision regarding those planes were live. That’s what I believe.


And thank you Capt Dan for your insight.
 Quoting: Pepperroni


I think you are spot on. A lot of the plane propaganda witnesses sounded like their voice was added to a prerecorded video on many of the ones I have seen.
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3 & 1/2 minute video of what went down on 9/11




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Great video minus the presidents speaking, the presidents are fully aware and involved in the hoaxes. Much of what they said were to slap the public in the face with the fake realities created. It's a game to the elites to reveal some truth while they openly lie.
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The planes were CGI.

I'm afraid I'm useless at keeping track of links, so I can't point you to the evidence. But I can tell you there's a video taken from a helicopter that show the towers at a wide angle, then zooms in, and then the plane enters the frame and hits the tower. The thing is, there was no plane in the zoomed out part of the clip, which it would have to be if the plane was real!

Another thing is that a lot of people who were there report that they didn't see the planes personally, but someone nearby yelled out "OMG, a plane just hit the tower!" or something like that. Seems they had hired people to plant the idea so people would think they saw it, or at least not question those who say they did.
 Quoting: The Monk


This.

Computer graphics pumped out to all stations, with minor changes to each broadcast to make them seem like they were covering it live. Nothing we saw on tell-a-vision regarding those planes were live. That’s what I believe.


And thank you Capt Dan for your insight.
 Quoting: Pepperroni


I think you are spot on. A lot of the plane propaganda witnesses sounded like their voice was added to a prerecorded video on many of the ones I have seen.
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Forgot to mention the sound effects of the attack. Go watch.
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Sorry I abandoned you all but I am in Thailand and it was time to sleep.

I will answer some more of your questions
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Pilots land on a small strip of runway on virtually every landing..and most of those are manual--not autoland or computer assisted.

Sorry, but I'm not buying this, have been on WAY too many flights where they drop the plane right in the middle of the landing strip.

Calling BS on this one.
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You neglect to account for the speed difference. On landing it is maybe 125 mph, the WTC flight was at 500 mph...BIG DIFFERENCE. Land those same planes at those airstrips at 500 mph. NOT POSSIBLE!
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Capt. Dan,

If MH370 was remote controlled could it have fit into regular airspace over Pakistan or Afghanistan, say for instance taking a position of a plane that had been circling for 6 hours and fell off around the same time MH370 would have entered that airspace? Can call signs be changed in the air? Does local air traffic report those incidents?

Thanks!
Miss Cleo
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Hi Miss Cleo,

Well, as for a swap in mid air; it is definitely possible if preparation was done. It would take modifying the transponder. Each aircraft has a transponder hex code that is hard wired. The transponder beacon code is changed every flight by the pilots. But the hex code is unique to every airframe and cannot be changed without special programming.

It can be done though...

As for local traffic, the sky is so big that it would be easy to have 2 aircraft change places in flight without anyone ever seeing it.
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Nice to have you here, Captain Dan. I've been a FB fan of yours for several years!bump
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Thanks Stephen!hf

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As some of my GLP family knows I have been a commercial pilot for 30 years now. I have been in aviation management for 25 of those years.

In 2001, I was Chief Pilot and Check Airman for a small charter airline (5 B737 aircraft) based in the western US. In September of that year I had just hired a new class of 8 pilots and, having already trained them in their basic indoc and ground portion of the airline training syllabus, had flown them to Phoenix for their simulator training.

On the morning of Sep 11th I was in the middle of training session 3 with an upgrading Captain and a new-hire First Officer. We had come out of the simulator for our mid-session break to piss, have a cup of coffee and swap seats when we saw the pilots that were training in the other simulator (who were also on their break) huddled around a TV set in the briefing room. One of the pilots turned around and, with a solemn look, told us that an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Behind him on the TV was the smoking tower with a frantic commentator rambling about whether or not it was terrorism.

I won't bore you with the rest of the details, but suffice it to say that I knew that there would not be any new class of pilots hired. They knew it too.




Because I (the airline) had already paid for the simulator time, and there was no way to fly everyone back home because all the air traffic was grounded, I decided to continue their training sessions for the rest of that week. I would then sign off their training and immediately furlough them - eventually hiring most of them back months later.

The next day as we were finishing up the 4 hour simulator session #4, I positioned the aircraft virtually on the runway at Boston Logan airport. I told the crew that we were going to try an experiment. I asked the more experienced of the two; the upgrading captain, to take off, fly to New York City and hit one of the towers. This was a very well-qualified upgrading pilot that had thousands of flight hours and hundreds in the right seat of a 737.

He took off and visually made his way to NY for the roughly 30 minute flight. In order not to waste time, I put the simulator on double-speed during the cruise portion. He then identified the twin towers - they are not hard to see - and headed straight for them...

AND HE MISSED! He muttered something about how hard it was to line up on them and asked me to back him up so he could try again. And AGAIN he MISSED! After several attempts, he was able to hit one of them by slowing way down to almost landing speed - flaps and gear down.

I subsequently tried the same exercise with all of the pilots and they all had trouble hitting such a narrow target at high speed. The new pilots didn't even come close. When they slowed way down, they were more successful but still commented on how challenging it was.

Now, bear in mind, these were very experienced professional pilots.

So tell me how did a bunch of Arabs with very little training perform such a feat? We all knew then that we were not being told the truth about the events of that day!

I have since told this story to many people. I have had several radio interviews about my experience and help found Pilots for 911 Truth. Below is one of the interviews I gave a couple years later.

Capt Dan


 Quoting: Capt Dan


I'm not a Computer Graphics expert, but from all the variables of 9/11, I fully believe the planes were CGI. Them showing an intact aluminum plane nose traveling completely through the steel tower was a smack in the face giveaway to anyone picking through all of the bs claims.
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Pilots land on a small strip of runway on virtually every landing..and most of those are manual--not autoland or computer assisted.

Sorry, but I'm not buying this, have been on WAY too many flights where they drop the plane right in the middle of the landing strip.

Calling BS on this one.
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You are describing landing speed and landing configuration. Capt. Dan pointed out it was easy to hit the building at slow speed rather than high speed.
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Great thread. Keep it going!
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Has the OP of this thread not surveilled all available information? What does a Pilots view matter in light of of the evidence?
Why is 911 still a conspiracy subject? Why is it not a simple matter of fact yet who the players were and why it occurred , and why there was no investigation, but a quick cleanup and war?

Bush Family and Saudi Arabia (Prince-oil-kings are brothers to bin laden). Pre-planted beam cutters (all engineers agree on one basic fact, even in the most optimistic circumstances jet fuel cannot melt steel).

Save your Family, Save your Neighbours, clean up your country.
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Has the OP of this thread not surveilled all available information? What does a Pilots view matter in light of of the evidence?
Why is 911 still a conspiracy subject? Why is it not a simple matter of fact yet who the players were and why it occurred , and why there was no investigation, but a quick cleanup and war?

Bush Family and Saudi Arabia (Prince-oil-kings are brothers to bin laden). Pre-planted beam cutters (all engineers agree on one basic fact, even in the most optimistic circumstances jet fuel cannot melt steel).

Save your Family, Save your Neighbours, clean up your country.
-MAGA-
 Quoting: BeeBeez


Hi Beez, not sure if anyone is able to be familiar with all information. I thought my GLP family might be interested in my perspective :)

There have been many threads about "Where were you on 9/11".
Some people might find my story interesting.
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Captn Dan

911

Where 2 planes defied the laws of physics to bring down 3 steel buildings in NY, whilst a 3rd plane disappears into a crater in the ground without any debris, and a fourth hits the Pentagon leaving an entry hole smaller than its dimensional footprint, with an altitude of 6 feet after performing a rapid corkscrew descent at high speed.

Sometimes one can have doubts whilst exploring various government sanctioned fuckery and in quiet moments can wonder if they themselves are mad, crazy.

In those moments, look to the events of 911 and realise this is all very real.

Very real indeed.

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Has the OP of this thread not surveilled all available information? What does a Pilots view matter in light of of the evidence?
Why is 911 still a conspiracy subject? Why is it not a simple matter of fact yet who the players were and why it occurred , and why there was no investigation, but a quick cleanup and war?

Bush Family and Saudi Arabia (Prince-oil-kings are brothers to bin laden). Pre-planted beam cutters (all engineers agree on one basic fact, even in the most optimistic circumstances jet fuel cannot melt steel).

Save your Family, Save your Neighbours, clean up your country.
-MAGA-
 Quoting: BeeBeez


The story of the OP should be told over and over again. It is the easiest evidence to understand how sinister 9/11 really was.

In fact, other pilots stories would be interesting. I finally raised some of the issues with a family member who is a pilot. He has confirmed what it seems all commercial pilots know - it did not happen as it was shown on TV.
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You train pilots at 6AM? Kinda early for work, isn’t it? Phoenix in Sept is 3 hours behind east coast time. First plane hit WTC1 at 8:46 A.M.
Apollo astronauts could not have passed through Van Allen’s Belt; Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Thanks for speaking out. thumbs

It's mind boggling to me that so many people still believe the official story without question. There are so many obvious deceptions.

Thread: 911 Was an Inside Job
 Quoting: C.K. Dexter Haven


I fly VFR and there’s no way a 757 on approach to DCA veered off course and hit the pentagon at that angle. You’re talking about a greyhound bus with wings, not a Ferrari
 Quoting: Nobody_Nothing


I was involved in the dissemination of the flight data recorder and radar info for the Pentagon event.

I can tell you that it did not happen the way they say in the narrative.

What really happened? We may never know. All I can tell you is that the official story is BS.
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How are you certain that it did not happen the way they say in the narrative? What makes you say that?
Apollo astronauts could not have passed through Van Allen’s Belt; Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Pilots land on a small strip of runway on virtually every landing..and most of those are manual--not autoland or computer assisted.

Sorry, but I'm not buying this, have been on WAY too many flights where they drop the plane right in the middle of the landing strip.

Calling BS on this one.
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Not at cruising speed (roughly 550 mph) they don’t.
Apollo astronauts could not have passed through Van Allen’s Belt; Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Capt Dan,

But if computers with flight simulators were onboard with Atta could they be connected into the planes system to direct them into the buildings?

Thanks,
Miss Cleo
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Good question Miss Cleo, there is a possibility that the planes were flown by remote control. To me, this is the best theory.

Unmanned drone technology of the time would have allowed it.
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Now you’re talkin’. :)
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Thread: What Are the NAUDET BROTHERS (of 9/11 Video Fame) Doing Today?
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Would it be possible to add a long range laser dot (on steroids) to the nose of a plane, to aid in aligning the plane to the building from a longer distance thus improving accuracy? Or perhaps converging lasers on both wings? That would also explain the footage of a plane hitting one of the building where a bright spot can be seen, a milisecond before impacting the building.

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Capt. Dan,

If MH370 was remote controlled could it have fit into regular airspace over Pakistan or Afghanistan, say for instance taking a position of a plane that had been circling for 6 hours and fell off around the same time MH370 would have entered that airspace? Can call signs be changed in the air? Does local air traffic report those incidents?

Thanks!
Miss Cleo
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Hi Miss Cleo,

Well, as for a swap in mid air; it is definitely possible if preparation was done. It would take modifying the transponder. Each aircraft has a transponder hex code that is hard wired. The transponder beacon code is changed every flight by the pilots. But the hex code is unique to every airframe and cannot be changed without special programming.

It can be done though...

As for local traffic, the sky is so big that it would be easy to have 2 aircraft change places in flight without anyone ever seeing it.
 Quoting: Capt Dan


Would GLEK be a call sign easily manipulated in that situation? But how did they disable all the passengers? No texts no towers and lack of oxygen?
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Capt Dan,

But if computers with flight simulators were onboard with Atta could they be connected into the planes system to direct them into the buildings?

Thanks,
Miss Cleo
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Good question Miss Cleo, there is a possibility that the planes were flown by remote control. To me, this is the best theory.

Unmanned drone technology of the time would have allowed it.
 Quoting: Capt Dan


Now you’re talkin’. :)
 Quoting: Drei Hund Nacht


There's still that one retired FAA asshole that is insisting that it's lithium batteries that blows up every plane. lol.
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The two 767s could very well have been remote controlled from the ground until they hit the towers. That's what I always thought from Day One.

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Project Bluebeam holograms, missiles, and demolition explosives.
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Capt Dan,

But if computers with flight simulators were onboard with Atta could they be connected into the planes system to direct them into the buildings?

Thanks,
Miss Cleo
 Quoting: MissCleo



Good question Miss Cleo, there is a possibility that the planes were flown by remote control. To me, this is the best theory.

Unmanned drone technology of the time would have allowed it.
 Quoting: Capt Dan


Now you’re talkin’. :)
 Quoting: Drei Hund Nacht


MH370 was Malaysia Air, they didn't upgrade their computer systems like other airlines.
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"The upgrade, which wholesales for about $10 per flight, would have provided investigators with the direction, speed and altitude of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 even after other communications from the plane went dark, said a satellite industry official familiar with the equipment."

Who would have known that the computer systems on planes could be hacked with the unmanned drone technology?

Obviously someone who wanted to keep that secret, for future plane hijackings, for status in the underworld, and leverage in... war?

This isn't some simple group of kid hackers playing video games. This type of operation comes from HUGE financing and inside information. And the desire to hijack planes... only points to one place.
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The two 767s could very well have been remote controlled from the ground until they hit the towers. That's what I always thought from Day One.

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 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


But too risky from the ground. Would be guaranteed impact from operatives onboard. This mission could not fail, and the martyrs were more than willing.

Atta, btw, did not go drinking and whoring in Las Vegas before the operation. He met with the Imam, same Imam that was involved in the Mandalay Bay shooting incident that cost al Waleed 5 billion.

Thanks Concorde for getting me hooked on watching Kingdom 5. They were docked in France, met with Russian yacht just before UK poisoning incident a few months back.

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