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Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?

 
Lance Roseman From BC

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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Not really a topic for a conspiracy site but whatever. Why don't people use ferro cement with a light epoxy that will last forever? It makes no sense. And I'm a roofer (as a side job). Utilizing the methods of making ferro concrete strong enough for a boat hull (layers of wire mesh), the roofing industry would slowly die after replacing all existing roofs.
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Conspiracy site yes, but this forum is also about SURVIVAL. Part of survival is making sure you take care of your finances and you buy property that is going to build your wealth and not drain it by having to buy a new roof every 20 years.
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Yes, hence I made a suggestion about using ferro cement as a roofing material. In all honesty the weight would not be greater then shakes/shingles/ but a bit heavier then metal. But it lasts for a very, very long time.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
you dont think the sun degrades paint? tar paper becomes brittle over time and will leak its not the shingles that keeps the water out its the paper. my friend just put cool seal on his roof i secretly had to laugh because the stuff is expensive and needs re-coated every year.cheap out and skimp if you must but its not the correct way why not just blue tarp it lol.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
If I had a roof that was in need of replacing, and didn't have the $ to replace it, I would diffidently try the paint solution but only after doing enough research to be able to make an educated guess that the paint would work and not cause more problems than it solves

From what I've read so far on this subject, some people have success and swear by it, while others think it's the worse decision they ever made. My conclusion is that you have to lay enough paint on so as to waterproof all the shingles to prevent water getting underneath them. This would take meticulous care in applying the paint and followup to making sure that after a heavy rainfall, no leaks are detected in the attic and if leaks are detected, that area be addressed.

To just go and slap paint onto your roof without proper cleaning/preparation and the time to do the job right, and expect it to work magic in prolonging the life of your roof, would be nothing but a waste of labor and paint.

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If u live near Amish have them put on a metal roof. I did this a year ago last June. Grade 1 best you can buy roof for 5350.00.
Three bedroom two bath single story 1800 square foot house. The Amish father and his four sons were done in less than a day.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
The is also a piant/sealant/plastic type coating you can paint on your roof that repells UV rays. Forgot what it is called. Will help cut back on A.C. costs. It only comes in white. My repair guy tried to talk me into it but it was too close to the cost of a new roof. I went for the new roof.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
The is also a piant/sealant/plastic type coating you can paint on your roof that repells UV rays. Forgot what it is called. Will help cut back on A.C. costs. It only comes in white. My repair guy tried to talk me into it but it was too close to the cost of a new roof. I went for the new roof.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Oh, so save $10,000-$20,000 and lose even more in market value for youself and your (justifiably mad) neighbors. Some savings!

Plus...pretty sure it won't work and you will have peeling paint on your roof. How ya gonna fix that?
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"Justifiably mad" neighbors? See this is the problem with living next to older conservative type people, they get mad about these little things that shouldn't matter in life. These are the kind of people I do not want to have as neighbors in the first place. I'd rather live in the ghetto amongst people who have more to worry about than how their neighbors house looks.
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"conservative type people" You're delusional!

If your roof sticks out like a sore thumb, then your neighbors are going to be rightfully mad!
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These people are idiots, what kind of idiots would get upset about the way someone else's house looks? I'd rather live in the ghetto than be next to these old fashioned people who have nothing else to worry about but how their neighbor's house looks!
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It has nothing to do with "old fashionged people". When you cause property values to decline with your gee-whiz, selfish behavior, it is as if you personally steal the dollars out of the pockets of your neighbors - sometimes tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. (The very definition of the opposite of loving your neighbor, IMHO.)
Unfortunately, this is why neighbors feel the need to have a lot of rules and HOAs had to be brought into existence. Personally, I'd rather not have an HOA and just consider my neighbor's best interest as well as my own.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Well, there genius, we don't send our arms around our asses to touch our noses either, but you're not asking are you?

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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Here in Australia we never use shingles.
Roofing material is either coloured corrugated metal (Zinc/Aluminium alloy) or cement tiles.
Everlasting roofing materials.

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Also, I think you would have to factor in wear and tear from birds, squirels, etc. And possibly branches, leaves, sap and other things that tend to accumulate on a roof.
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Also I'm reading on that link i posted that i could damage the wood because the paint would seal and prevent water from escaping, which could cause water damage to the wood below.
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That's what I was thinking. Not enough air floor, plywood shingles can't breath. No Bueno.
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Oh, so save $10,000-$20,000 and lose even more in market value for youself and your (justifiably mad) neighbors. Some savings!

Plus...pretty sure it won't work and you will have peeling paint on your roof. How ya gonna fix that?
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"Justifiably mad" neighbors? See this is the problem with living next to older conservative type people, they get mad about these little things that shouldn't matter in life. These are the kind of people I do not want to have as neighbors in the first place. I'd rather live in the ghetto amongst people who have more to worry about than how their neighbors house looks.
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Well you will have to if you go the white trash route, because most neighborhoods worth living in have a home owners association that prohibits devaluing the neighborhood.
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Painting asphalt shingles sounds dumb as shit! Maybe if you lived in the desert, but even then why? Just get a metal roof.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
I always wondered why whe don't use recycled milk jugs and water bottles for roof panels. You would have to add some sort of uv protection to the plastic but they would be waterproof and durable.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Typical 1500 ft house in TExas



60 bundles shingles - $1500.00

5 Rolls felt paper - $75.00

1 - Box knife blades - $5.00

Roofing nails - $50.00

Dump fees to discard old crappy shingles $200.00




Total do it yourself $1830.00

Pay laborers to do it for you in 100 degree Texas sun. About $1500.



You are way off base on your cost.
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I always wondered why whe don't use recycled milk jugs and water bottles for roof panels. You would have to add some sort of uv protection to the plastic but they would be waterproof and durable.
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You must be female
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I always wondered why whe don't use recycled milk jugs and water bottles for roof panels. You would have to add some sort of uv protection to the plastic but they would be waterproof and durable.
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You must be female
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Low Density Polyethylene (LDPE)

is the most common type of plastic sheeting. It is very flexible, most often from 0.5 mil thick to about 40 mil in flexible sheeting forms. Due to its flexibility is conforms well to a variety of surfaces. The downside is that this LDPE is not as strong or dense as some other types of plastic sheeting. It is not nearly as puncture resistant either. It’s commonly used in the manufacture of washing up bowls, food containers, plastic cups and is used quite widely in construction, agriculture, surface protection applications along with covers of all sorts, tarps and much more. UV filtering additives need to be added to increase the UV resistance of the material.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Typical 1500 ft house in TExas



60 bundles shingles - $1500.00

5 Rolls felt paper - $75.00

1 - Box knife blades - $5.00

Roofing nails - $50.00

Dump fees to discard old crappy shingles $200.00




Total do it yourself $1830.00

Pay laborers to do it for you in 100 degree Texas sun. About $1500.



You are way off base on your cost.
 Quoting: One star bandit


When we do roofs in BC, we take the cost of materials and then double it and the doubling is our wages. That way we don't work hourly and decide how much we wish to work per day before the rains come.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
There are also these...
[link to www.roof.info]

But I'd still prefer ferro concrete.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Please help me understand this concept of the typical American homeowner. We know the sun degrades everything with time, so the typical American homeowner buys a house and expects to have to put a new roof over it every 15 to 20 years or so once the shingles start getting worn out. This costs about 20 thousand dollars for a new roof. If you do it yourself, you might be able to cut that in half, so maybe about 10 thousand dollars just for the shingles, nails, and other supplies.



Now compare this idea to going down to the hardware store, getting some exterior latex paint which is on sale for $20 for a big 5 gallon bucket because it is mis-tinted. One of those big buckets should be able to cover the entire roof. You might have to re-apply another coat every 5 years or so but atleast that paint will protect the shingles from sun damage. I think if you reapplied a coat of exterior latex paint on your roof shingles every 5 years, your shingles should last indefinitely and you wouldn't need to be saving up for a new roof every 20 years.


If you get a light colored paint, it would even help you save on your energy bills because it would keep the house cooler.


The same concept would apply to decks and other parts of your house in the sun. I see a lot of homeowners not putting any paint on their decks because they are trying to show off the grain of the wood so it looks nice. I don't really care about how the wood looks, just throw some mistinted paint on that deck every couple years so that the sun doesn't degrade it. Otherwise that wood is going to rot in about 10 years if you don't put some latex paint on it and you'll need tear the whole thing down and redo the deck.


Please help me understand the logic of the typical american homeowner, why does the majority care so much about how their house looks, knowing that their behavior will cost them tens of thousands of dollars in the long run. Is having your house look good for the neighbors really worth it?
 Quoting: gros


There is a solid reason why millions of home owners have not done this:

It's a stupid idea.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
I live in Texas and majority of the roofs installed in the last 10 years are 30 year roofs. We have to replace our roofs due to hail storm damage, high winds or abrasion from trees or squirrels/other pests. Kinda don't think paint will stop those issues.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
If u live near Amish have them put on a metal roof. I did this a year ago last June. Grade 1 best you can buy roof for 5350.00.
Three bedroom two bath single story 1800 square foot house. The Amish father and his four sons were done in less than a day.
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$5,000 for a metal roof? That sounds like it wouldn't even cover the material itself! Are you sure about that?
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Yes. $5,350.00 from the Amish. Paid in cash.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
$20k???

Not around here. Try $140 a square materials and labor. That's sort of the low end, but even at $225/square the typical home can be roofed for $5k

So why should I read any further when your numbers are all fucked up?
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If u live near Amish have them put on a metal roof. I did this a year ago last June. Grade 1 best you can buy roof for 5350.00.
Three bedroom two bath single story 1800 square foot house. The Amish father and his four sons were done in less than a day.
 Quoting: Maiya


$5,000 for a metal roof? That sounds like it wouldn't even cover the material itself! Are you sure about that?
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Yes. $5,350.00 from the Amish. Paid in cash.
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There are 2 economies in the US. The reular economy where a roof costs 5k and the big city libtard economy where a roof costs 25k.

I mean when the unionized trash truck driver earns 120k a year you can't expect an illegal mexican to nail shingles for less than $80 a square.
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Do a google search for "elastomer shingle sealant"
and you'll find all kinds of products.
My Dad applied one of these to keep the grit intact after several hurricanes in Florida, as well as preventing mildew deterioration, etc. and it worked quite well. If you're interested I can ask him exactly which product he used and how it was applied.
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What kind of mansion do you own that a new roof costs $20,000? Or do you live in San Fransicko? A new roof here is maybe $3000 to $5000 for a ranch style house. Even cheaper if you hire Mexicans. It depends on the square footage of the roof and how fancy the tiles are that you select. I could replace mine myself for about $800 to $900 assuming the decking is in good shape.
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Yeah I think you're right, I might just go with the metal over the shingles. Then I can even paint the metal roof white to help keep the house cool, and make the metal last longer.

You know what I don't understand is when someone needs a new roof, why do most people tear off all the previous shingles and start over again? Why don't they just put the new shingles ontop of the old? That way you have two layers of roofing which means more insulation.


I just recently had my house re-roofed. I bought the house 6 years ago. The quote was $17,000 which was not bad for 50 year warranteed shingles and a sizable roof. When they began to remove the old shingles they found that someone had applied shingles over the existing ones. The roofer said that should never have happened and probably sped up failure of the roof as two layers of shingles trapped heat under the top layer and weakened them. Always remove the old shingles, and check to make sure the plywood beneath them is in good condition. Oh and metal roofs last a long time but they can interfere with electronic reception. You may not care about radio, etc. but I would.
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What kind of mansion do you own that a new roof costs $20,000? Or do you live in San Fransicko? A new roof here is maybe $3000 to $5000 for a ranch style house. Even cheaper if you hire Mexicans. It depends on the square footage of the roof and how fancy the tiles are that you select. I could replace mine myself for about $800 to $900 assuming the decking is in good shape.
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Might as well put a big tarp over your roof to protect your shingels....
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Please help me understand this concept of the typical American homeowner. We know the sun degrades everything with time, so the typical American homeowner buys a house and expects to have to put a new roof over it every 15 to 20 years or so once the shingles start getting worn out. This costs about 20 thousand dollars for a new roof. If you do it yourself, you might be able to cut that in half, so maybe about 10 thousand dollars just for the shingles, nails, and other supplies.



Now compare this idea to going down to the hardware store, getting some exterior latex paint which is on sale for $20 for a big 5 gallon bucket because it is mis-tinted. One of those big buckets should be able to cover the entire roof. You might have to re-apply another coat every 5 years or so but atleast that paint will protect the shingles from sun damage. I think if you reapplied a coat of exterior latex paint on your roof shingles every 5 years, your shingles should last indefinitely and you wouldn't need to be saving up for a new roof every 20 years.


If you get a light colored paint, it would even help you save on your energy bills because it would keep the house cooler.


The same concept would apply to decks and other parts of your house in the sun. I see a lot of homeowners not putting any paint on their decks because they are trying to show off the grain of the wood so it looks nice. I don't really care about how the wood looks, just throw some mistinted paint on that deck every couple years so that the sun doesn't degrade it. Otherwise that wood is going to rot in about 10 years if you don't put some latex paint on it and you'll need tear the whole thing down and redo the deck.


Please help me understand the logic of the typical american homeowner, why does the majority care so much about how their house looks, knowing that their behavior will cost them tens of thousands of dollars in the long run. Is having your house look good for the neighbors really worth it?
 Quoting: gros


not so simple. I had a metal roof and they are painted and my was done regularly and the paint.. even special stuff for roofs does not last .
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Re: Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles?
Metal roof.
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Absolutely. We roofed over our shingled home and a 120 year old 2 story building we have. Neither roof leaked and we got additional insulation.

A paint over never came up.
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