Why don't all home owners put a layer of exterior paint over their roof shingles? | |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 30616576 Canada 09/12/2018 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really a topic for a conspiracy site but whatever. Why don't people use ferro cement with a light epoxy that will last forever? It makes no sense. And I'm a roofer (as a side job). Utilizing the methods of making ferro concrete strong enough for a boat hull (layers of wire mesh), the roofing industry would slowly die after replacing all existing roofs. Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Conspiracy site yes, but this forum is also about SURVIVAL. Part of survival is making sure you take care of your finances and you buy property that is going to build your wealth and not drain it by having to buy a new roof every 20 years. Yes, hence I made a suggestion about using ferro cement as a roofing material. In all honesty the weight would not be greater then shakes/shingles/ but a bit heavier then metal. But it lasts for a very, very long time. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Tubbs User ID: 71139464 United States 09/12/2018 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you dont think the sun degrades paint? tar paper becomes brittle over time and will leak its not the shingles that keeps the water out its the paper. my friend just put cool seal on his roof i secretly had to laugh because the stuff is expensive and needs re-coated every year.cheap out and skimp if you must but its not the correct way why not just blue tarp it lol. Is This The Real World Or Is It Just Fantasy. |
tcs User ID: 8107377 Canada 09/12/2018 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I had a roof that was in need of replacing, and didn't have the $ to replace it, I would diffidently try the paint solution but only after doing enough research to be able to make an educated guess that the paint would work and not cause more problems than it solves From what I've read so far on this subject, some people have success and swear by it, while others think it's the worse decision they ever made. My conclusion is that you have to lay enough paint on so as to waterproof all the shingles to prevent water getting underneath them. This would take meticulous care in applying the paint and followup to making sure that after a heavy rainfall, no leaks are detected in the attic and if leaks are detected, that area be addressed. To just go and slap paint onto your roof without proper cleaning/preparation and the time to do the job right, and expect it to work magic in prolonging the life of your roof, would be nothing but a waste of labor and paint. Just my opinion. " Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord." ~ Jer. 17:5 "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" |
janedoenut User ID: 70235436 United States 09/12/2018 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If u live near Amish have them put on a metal roof. I did this a year ago last June. Grade 1 best you can buy roof for 5350.00. Quoting: Maiya Three bedroom two bath single story 1800 square foot house. The Amish father and his four sons were done in less than a day. Wonders how all the metal roofs got put on homes in Montana, we haven't any Amish. Curiouser and curiouser. :) “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
Pees and Ques User ID: 74696624 United States 09/12/2018 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The is also a piant/sealant/plastic type coating you can paint on your roof that repells UV rays. Forgot what it is called. Will help cut back on A.C. costs. It only comes in white. My repair guy tried to talk me into it but it was too close to the cost of a new roof. I went for the new roof. |
janedoenut User ID: 70235436 United States 09/12/2018 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The is also a piant/sealant/plastic type coating you can paint on your roof that repells UV rays. Forgot what it is called. Will help cut back on A.C. costs. It only comes in white. My repair guy tried to talk me into it but it was too close to the cost of a new roof. I went for the new roof. Quoting: Pees and Ques Like Snow Coat that you'd put on an RV or mobile home? “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
torchsinger2 User ID: 35735426 United States 09/12/2018 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, so save $10,000-$20,000 and lose even more in market value for youself and your (justifiably mad) neighbors. Some savings! Quoting: torchsinger2 Plus...pretty sure it won't work and you will have peeling paint on your roof. How ya gonna fix that? "Justifiably mad" neighbors? See this is the problem with living next to older conservative type people, they get mad about these little things that shouldn't matter in life. These are the kind of people I do not want to have as neighbors in the first place. I'd rather live in the ghetto amongst people who have more to worry about than how their neighbors house looks. "conservative type people" You're delusional! If your roof sticks out like a sore thumb, then your neighbors are going to be rightfully mad! These people are idiots, what kind of idiots would get upset about the way someone else's house looks? I'd rather live in the ghetto than be next to these old fashioned people who have nothing else to worry about but how their neighbor's house looks! It has nothing to do with "old fashionged people". When you cause property values to decline with your gee-whiz, selfish behavior, it is as if you personally steal the dollars out of the pockets of your neighbors - sometimes tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. (The very definition of the opposite of loving your neighbor, IMHO.) Unfortunately, this is why neighbors feel the need to have a lot of rules and HOAs had to be brought into existence. Personally, I'd rather not have an HOA and just consider my neighbor's best interest as well as my own. |
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Isis One User ID: 73372932 United States 09/12/2018 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, I think you would have to factor in wear and tear from birds, squirels, etc. And possibly branches, leaves, sap and other things that tend to accumulate on a roof. Quoting: Some Guy Also I'm reading on that link i posted that i could damage the wood because the paint would seal and prevent water from escaping, which could cause water damage to the wood below. That's what I was thinking. Not enough air floor, plywood shingles can't breath. No Bueno. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
ChamesGamron User ID: 76859794 United States 09/12/2018 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, so save $10,000-$20,000 and lose even more in market value for youself and your (justifiably mad) neighbors. Some savings! Quoting: torchsinger2 Plus...pretty sure it won't work and you will have peeling paint on your roof. How ya gonna fix that? "Justifiably mad" neighbors? See this is the problem with living next to older conservative type people, they get mad about these little things that shouldn't matter in life. These are the kind of people I do not want to have as neighbors in the first place. I'd rather live in the ghetto amongst people who have more to worry about than how their neighbors house looks. Well you will have to if you go the white trash route, because most neighborhoods worth living in have a home owners association that prohibits devaluing the neighborhood. Disclaimer: There is a 50% chance the above post should be taken sarcastically. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6067468 United States 09/12/2018 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Typical 1500 ft house in TExas 60 bundles shingles - $1500.00 5 Rolls felt paper - $75.00 1 - Box knife blades - $5.00 Roofing nails - $50.00 Dump fees to discard old crappy shingles $200.00 Total do it yourself $1830.00 Pay laborers to do it for you in 100 degree Texas sun. About $1500. You are way off base on your cost. |
ChamesGamron User ID: 76859794 United States 09/12/2018 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wondered why whe don't use recycled milk jugs and water bottles for roof panels. You would have to add some sort of uv protection to the plastic but they would be waterproof and durable. Quoting: percival You must be female Disclaimer: There is a 50% chance the above post should be taken sarcastically. |
AnonCh4rl1 User ID: 45797341 United Kingdom 09/12/2018 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wondered why whe don't use recycled milk jugs and water bottles for roof panels. You would have to add some sort of uv protection to the plastic but they would be waterproof and durable. Quoting: percival You must be female Low Density Polyethylene (LDPE) is the most common type of plastic sheeting. It is very flexible, most often from 0.5 mil thick to about 40 mil in flexible sheeting forms. Due to its flexibility is conforms well to a variety of surfaces. The downside is that this LDPE is not as strong or dense as some other types of plastic sheeting. It is not nearly as puncture resistant either. It’s commonly used in the manufacture of washing up bowls, food containers, plastic cups and is used quite widely in construction, agriculture, surface protection applications along with covers of all sorts, tarps and much more. UV filtering additives need to be added to increase the UV resistance of the material. |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 30616576 Canada 09/12/2018 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Typical 1500 ft house in TExas Quoting: One star bandit 60 bundles shingles - $1500.00 5 Rolls felt paper - $75.00 1 - Box knife blades - $5.00 Roofing nails - $50.00 Dump fees to discard old crappy shingles $200.00 Total do it yourself $1830.00 Pay laborers to do it for you in 100 degree Texas sun. About $1500. You are way off base on your cost. When we do roofs in BC, we take the cost of materials and then double it and the doubling is our wages. That way we don't work hourly and decide how much we wish to work per day before the rains come. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 30616576 Canada 09/12/2018 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are also these... [link to www.roof.info] But I'd still prefer ferro concrete. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19150010 United States 09/12/2018 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please help me understand this concept of the typical American homeowner. We know the sun degrades everything with time, so the typical American homeowner buys a house and expects to have to put a new roof over it every 15 to 20 years or so once the shingles start getting worn out. This costs about 20 thousand dollars for a new roof. If you do it yourself, you might be able to cut that in half, so maybe about 10 thousand dollars just for the shingles, nails, and other supplies. Quoting: gros Now compare this idea to going down to the hardware store, getting some exterior latex paint which is on sale for $20 for a big 5 gallon bucket because it is mis-tinted. One of those big buckets should be able to cover the entire roof. You might have to re-apply another coat every 5 years or so but atleast that paint will protect the shingles from sun damage. I think if you reapplied a coat of exterior latex paint on your roof shingles every 5 years, your shingles should last indefinitely and you wouldn't need to be saving up for a new roof every 20 years. If you get a light colored paint, it would even help you save on your energy bills because it would keep the house cooler. The same concept would apply to decks and other parts of your house in the sun. I see a lot of homeowners not putting any paint on their decks because they are trying to show off the grain of the wood so it looks nice. I don't really care about how the wood looks, just throw some mistinted paint on that deck every couple years so that the sun doesn't degrade it. Otherwise that wood is going to rot in about 10 years if you don't put some latex paint on it and you'll need tear the whole thing down and redo the deck. Please help me understand the logic of the typical american homeowner, why does the majority care so much about how their house looks, knowing that their behavior will cost them tens of thousands of dollars in the long run. Is having your house look good for the neighbors really worth it? There is a solid reason why millions of home owners have not done this: It's a stupid idea. |
JKJeepster User ID: 75857658 United States 09/12/2018 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Texas and majority of the roofs installed in the last 10 years are 30 year roofs. We have to replace our roofs due to hail storm damage, high winds or abrasion from trees or squirrels/other pests. Kinda don't think paint will stop those issues. Jeepster When my wife gets out of bed in the morning, the Devil says "Oh shit...she's up" |
Maiya It's kind of fun to do the impossible. User ID: 76880757 United States 09/12/2018 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If u live near Amish have them put on a metal roof. I did this a year ago last June. Grade 1 best you can buy roof for 5350.00. Quoting: Maiya Three bedroom two bath single story 1800 square foot house. The Amish father and his four sons were done in less than a day. $5,000 for a metal roof? That sounds like it wouldn't even cover the material itself! Are you sure about that? Yes. $5,350.00 from the Amish. Paid in cash. They never thought she would lose. Now they all lose. |
shovelbum User ID: 31215923 United States 09/12/2018 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $20k??? Not around here. Try $140 a square materials and labor. That's sort of the low end, but even at $225/square the typical home can be roofed for $5k So why should I read any further when your numbers are all fucked up? |
shovelbum User ID: 31215923 United States 09/12/2018 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If u live near Amish have them put on a metal roof. I did this a year ago last June. Grade 1 best you can buy roof for 5350.00. Quoting: Maiya Three bedroom two bath single story 1800 square foot house. The Amish father and his four sons were done in less than a day. $5,000 for a metal roof? That sounds like it wouldn't even cover the material itself! Are you sure about that? Yes. $5,350.00 from the Amish. Paid in cash. There are 2 economies in the US. The reular economy where a roof costs 5k and the big city libtard economy where a roof costs 25k. I mean when the unionized trash truck driver earns 120k a year you can't expect an illegal mexican to nail shingles for less than $80 a square. |
Bo Jangles User ID: 76794087 United States 09/12/2018 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do a google search for "elastomer shingle sealant" and you'll find all kinds of products. My Dad applied one of these to keep the grit intact after several hurricanes in Florida, as well as preventing mildew deterioration, etc. and it worked quite well. If you're interested I can ask him exactly which product he used and how it was applied. |
Turd Ferguson, Jr. User ID: 51522520 United States 09/12/2018 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of mansion do you own that a new roof costs $20,000? Or do you live in San Fransicko? A new roof here is maybe $3000 to $5000 for a ranch style house. Even cheaper if you hire Mexicans. It depends on the square footage of the roof and how fancy the tiles are that you select. I could replace mine myself for about $800 to $900 assuming the decking is in good shape. |
gamecock User ID: 71009704 United States 09/12/2018 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what I don't understand is when someone needs a new roof, why do most people tear off all the previous shingles and start over again? Why don't they just put the new shingles ontop of the old? That way you have two layers of roofing which means more insulation. I just recently had my house re-roofed. I bought the house 6 years ago. The quote was $17,000 which was not bad for 50 year warranteed shingles and a sizable roof. When they began to remove the old shingles they found that someone had applied shingles over the existing ones. The roofer said that should never have happened and probably sped up failure of the roof as two layers of shingles trapped heat under the top layer and weakened them. Always remove the old shingles, and check to make sure the plywood beneath them is in good condition. Oh and metal roofs last a long time but they can interfere with electronic reception. You may not care about radio, etc. but I would. |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 30616576 Canada 09/12/2018 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of mansion do you own that a new roof costs $20,000? Or do you live in San Fransicko? A new roof here is maybe $3000 to $5000 for a ranch style house. Even cheaper if you hire Mexicans. It depends on the square footage of the roof and how fancy the tiles are that you select. I could replace mine myself for about $800 to $900 assuming the decking is in good shape. Quoting: Turd Ferguson, Jr. How very Patriotic of you. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76911282 United States 09/12/2018 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please help me understand this concept of the typical American homeowner. We know the sun degrades everything with time, so the typical American homeowner buys a house and expects to have to put a new roof over it every 15 to 20 years or so once the shingles start getting worn out. This costs about 20 thousand dollars for a new roof. If you do it yourself, you might be able to cut that in half, so maybe about 10 thousand dollars just for the shingles, nails, and other supplies. Quoting: gros Now compare this idea to going down to the hardware store, getting some exterior latex paint which is on sale for $20 for a big 5 gallon bucket because it is mis-tinted. One of those big buckets should be able to cover the entire roof. You might have to re-apply another coat every 5 years or so but atleast that paint will protect the shingles from sun damage. I think if you reapplied a coat of exterior latex paint on your roof shingles every 5 years, your shingles should last indefinitely and you wouldn't need to be saving up for a new roof every 20 years. If you get a light colored paint, it would even help you save on your energy bills because it would keep the house cooler. The same concept would apply to decks and other parts of your house in the sun. I see a lot of homeowners not putting any paint on their decks because they are trying to show off the grain of the wood so it looks nice. I don't really care about how the wood looks, just throw some mistinted paint on that deck every couple years so that the sun doesn't degrade it. Otherwise that wood is going to rot in about 10 years if you don't put some latex paint on it and you'll need tear the whole thing down and redo the deck. Please help me understand the logic of the typical american homeowner, why does the majority care so much about how their house looks, knowing that their behavior will cost them tens of thousands of dollars in the long run. Is having your house look good for the neighbors really worth it? not so simple. I had a metal roof and they are painted and my was done regularly and the paint.. even special stuff for roofs does not last . |
anonimalle User ID: 74832867 United States 09/12/2018 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely. We roofed over our shingled home and a 120 year old 2 story building we have. Neither roof leaked and we got additional insulation. A paint over never came up. Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |