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NatSec Sources: Sunspot NM Solar Observatory SAW SOMETHING IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO

 
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A) The double eclipse was supposed to happen at exactly that time in exactly those directions, so there'd be nothing to doctor at those spots in the image since the moon is supposed to be there anyway.
B) The double eclipse occurred days after the evacuation.
C) The Sunspot observatory is not the only observatory that observes the sun every day.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


The time stamps in my clips are missing 4 hours I think.
 Quoting: Vivarium


Well my clip is definitely not missing 4 hours. I had no trouble downloading the video from the SDO website. You can also get the raw FITS files from here, no problem:
[link to sdac.virtualsolar.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


I got the clips from the soho site. They are missing a few hours.
 Quoting: Vivarium

I don't know where you got the clips from, but there are no missing hours in my clips. You can download clips here as well:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
It doesn't generate missing hours for me.
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Astro, love all of your debunking. So my question is, what do you think happened at this facility? Thanks!
 Quoting: MARsSPEED

I have a number of theories. I've done a fair bit of looking into potential classified or Russian satellite transits seen from the observatory, though I think some sort of threat or spying issue is the most likely possibility.
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 21)
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 20)
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


well, the Astronomers know how to interpret the data,
and the FBI does not.
and yet all of the Astronomers are locked out and left in the dark.
 Quoting: Elevated Intesity


We don't know why they were ordered to evacuate, but they still have access to their data according to the director. If it were due to concern over classified data accidentally received the FBI could just be the enforcement arm while the DoD conducts its own analysis.
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Access to their data, but not new, pertinent data.
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I thought this wss clearly debunked already?

Shut down due to lack of funding, plus wasnt the observatory not even operational/manned?
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Isn't that the last card they have to pull?

The Alien card. Shows they really are on the ropes
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they've still got the Russian card.
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The Russian Card is wearing pretty thin. LOL
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Smells like some don't want you to know About Nibiru.
Yet, it is depicted in many ways in These occult societies.
They know what's coming.
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Astro, love all of your debunking. So my question is, what do you think happened at this facility? Thanks!
 Quoting: MARsSPEED

I have a number of theories. I've done a fair bit of looking into potential classified or Russian satellite transits seen from the observatory, though I think some sort of threat or spying issue is the most likely possibility.
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 21)
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 20)
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


well, the Astronomers know how to interpret the data,
and the FBI does not.
and yet all of the Astronomers are locked out and left in the dark.
 Quoting: Elevated Intesity


We don't know why they were ordered to evacuate, but they still have access to their data according to the director. If it were due to concern over classified data accidentally received the FBI could just be the enforcement arm while the DoD conducts its own analysis.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


well, then there's still a lot of mystery here.
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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
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This was mentioned on FOX: Tucker Carlson last night.

Segment starts at 16:08 in video

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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
 Quoting: Free me


an Astronomy Observatory would be a perfect cover, yer right.
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I have a number of theories. I've done a fair bit of looking into potential classified or Russian satellite transits seen from the observatory, though I think some sort of threat or spying issue is the most likely possibility.
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 21)
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 20)
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


well, the Astronomers know how to interpret the data,
and the FBI does not.
and yet all of the Astronomers are locked out and left in the dark.
 Quoting: Elevated Intesity


We don't know why they were ordered to evacuate, but they still have access to their data according to the director. If it were due to concern over classified data accidentally received the FBI could just be the enforcement arm while the DoD conducts its own analysis.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


well, then there's still a lot of mystery here.
 Quoting: Elevated Intesity


I was asked to speculate on possible reasons. I don't know the reason, never claimed to, I'm just speculating and trying to test possible theories.
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Some foreign agency hacked into the instruments and were using them to spy on White Sands
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Maybe the Black Knight has changed positions and come into clear view.
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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
 Quoting: Free me


an Astronomy Observatory would be a perfect cover, yer right.
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I know right? Pope and all.
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Starts with N...
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hint?
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That was the hint.
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Ends in ru
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end with body....
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I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
 Quoting: Free me


an Astronomy Observatory would be a perfect cover, yer right.
 Quoting: Elevated Intesity


I know right? Pope and all.
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that's right. they built the Vatican Obsersatory
right after they burned Galileo at the stake.
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Guy did a live stream walking through the Sunspot observatory


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Putin's Voluntaryist


An X-Files DVD sitting on top of a trash can right by a door where it can be plainly seen by anyone walking by? Seriously? Someone there had a sense of humor... It does make me think that whoever did that seriously expected this shutdown to be... persistent, maybe even permanent. They probably thought it would be funny to anyone re-entering the facility later, which implies they didn't expect to be coming back themselves.
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Which is a concerning thought in and of itself, wouldn't you say so? damneddamneddamned
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Guy did a live stream walking through the Sunspot observatory


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Putin's Voluntaryist


An X-Files DVD sitting on top of a trash can right by a door where it can be plainly seen by anyone walking by? Seriously? Someone there had a sense of humor... It does make me think that whoever did that seriously expected this shutdown to be... persistent, maybe even permanent. They probably thought it would be funny to anyone re-entering the facility later, which implies they didn't expect to be coming back themselves.
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Which is a concerning thought in and of itself, wouldn't you say so? damneddamneddamned
 Quoting: Eggcellently Deplorable


Not necessarily. Operations there are being handed off from NSO to NMSU. NSO only had a skeleton crew there at this point and there's some talk among those who worked there that this has to do with the hand off in some way, though I think that's speculative as well.
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James McAteer, a New Mexico State University professor who is also the director of the Sunspot Solar Observatory said the “telescope did not see aliens. All data will be made public in its unaltered form. Nothing is hidden or kept secret."

[link to www.kob.com (secure)]

So he's saying it's definitely NOT.. aliens? lol
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Well, not anymore. At least not once they've gone through and censored/doctored up the tapes.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Very strange. If I had to guess, I think it has something to do with White Sands and Holloman. But who knows? Time will tell (maybe) and there will probably be some sort of official cover story.
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Indeed..Time will tell..........MAYBE..
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I dunno.......IMHO, we STILL haven't heard the entire true story behind the Roswell incident. Say, that is located in New Mexico as well, isn't it?
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Astro, love all of your debunking. So my question is, what do you think happened at this facility? Thanks!
 Quoting: MARsSPEED

I have a number of theories. I've done a fair bit of looking into potential classified or Russian satellite transits seen from the observatory, though I think some sort of threat or spying issue is the most likely possibility.
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 21)
Thread: Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM (Page 20)
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut




Someone downthread suggested that there may have been some sort of "sleeper cell" situation discovered there.

I noticed that the facility has recently changed hands. The "new guys" may have found something that the "old guys" didn't know about or couldn't account for and called the FBI. (New Guy: "Hey, what's this for?" Old Guy: "I don't know, it's been there longer than I've been here; whatever it is or does, we've never used it.")
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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James McAteer, a New Mexico State University professor who is also the director of the Sunspot Solar Observatory said the “telescope did not see aliens. All data will be made public in its unaltered form. Nothing is hidden or kept secret."

[link to www.kob.com (secure)]

So he's saying it's definitely NOT.. aliens? lol
 Quoting: AeonSpirit




Well, not anymore. At least not once they've gone through and censored/doctored up the tapes.
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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
 Quoting: Free me




The Tucker Carlson segment mentioned that the observatory is located near the Mexican border. Maybe they discovered a drug smuggling tunnel?
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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
 Quoting: Free me




The Tucker Carlson segment mentioned that the observatory is located near the Mexican border. Maybe they discovered a drug smuggling tunnel?
 Quoting: Eggcellently Deplorable


smuggling in more ISIS refugees.
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Guy did a live stream walking through the Sunspot observatory


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Putin's Voluntaryist


An X-Files DVD sitting on top of a trash can right by a door where it can be plainly seen by anyone walking by? Seriously? Someone there had a sense of humor... It does make me think that whoever did that seriously expected this shutdown to be... persistent, maybe even permanent. They probably thought it would be funny to anyone re-entering the facility later, which implies they didn't expect to be coming back themselves.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


do ya think someone would have one at hand, just by the time the evac begun? cool2
I'd bet on someone from the man in black (supposedly FBI) crew
but not suppose his/her intent, if to mock or to give some clue for people
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Didn't this start happening around the same time they started finding holes in the Russian Space station?
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a good point, one among some others, like snow in south africa after an unexpectable, abrupt temporary hole in magnetosphere there up
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Guy did a live stream walking through the Sunspot observatory


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Putin's Voluntaryist


An X-Files DVD sitting on top of a trash can right by a door where it can be plainly seen by anyone walking by? Seriously? Someone there had a sense of humor... It does make me think that whoever did that seriously expected this shutdown to be... persistent, maybe even permanent. They probably thought it would be funny to anyone re-entering the facility later, which implies they didn't expect to be coming back themselves.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


do ya think someone would have one at hand, just by the time the evac begun? cool2
I'd bet on someone from the man in black (supposedly FBI) crew
but not suppose his/her intent, if to mock or to give some clue for people
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Who do you think scientists are? Nerds. We're nerds, lots of us have old PC games lying around. They did live there so it makes some sense that one of them would have something like that on hand.
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For what the lad that did post his walkaround said . . . there where 3 different categories of residents/occupiers . . . Observatory, Post Office, Forest Service . . . IMO the only thing they had in common was the location, IMO there is nothing at all that would relate them to an "observation event" . . . Since location is the relation, please allow me to elaborate . . . IMO an event ocurred in the location, such event will not be repeated (no guards for future events) . . . Such "event" must/should have being witnessed/talked about by the residents/occupiers. IMO the main order was not to close the location but to disperse the residents/occupiers, IMO some individual will have to undergo a series of questions, good luck for them.
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Satellite probably saw a space weapon or some kind of classified program

Or HAARP fueling the hurricaine.
 Quoting: Manigma


I wondered about the space weapon, too. The conspiracy theories are going wild: Aliens, Trafficking holdouts, China spying on us...
 Quoting: CaliGirl


How about international solar observatory's being used as a network front for sex trafficking worldwide?
 Quoting: Free me




The Tucker Carlson segment mentioned that the observatory is located near the Mexican border. Maybe they discovered a drug smuggling tunnel?
 Quoting: Eggcellently Deplorable


I had not thought about drug smuggling. That is interesting. It would explain why they left for safety reasons. Although that is not something they would keep from LE.

That said it did make me think didn't they find a starven child living in a makeshift camp not too far from here days before??
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And a dead body