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20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!

 
badkittie748

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Well, let's see what Q says later on about this.
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I think he has said BOOM many times. Wonder if this is connected? Did he know they would pull something like this?
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@eyethespy via twitter saying that this was a FF and that the MASS state Police were colluding with left wing groups ( resistance ).....

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
i suggest we ban gas.
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09/13/2018 10:00 PM
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
So it is not a clear cut and dried issue of overpressurization? Is that why the FBI and NTSB are involved?
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Praying for the first responders who are doing an amazing job - as I have been listening to the scanner. Now they are having to deal with human being issues on top of all this like fighting and gang activity.
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i suggest we ban gas.
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i suggest we ban gas.
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This was flatulence?
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09/13/2018 10:07 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
So what they are saying now is that the entire system overpressurised forcing gas into homes. 100 plus incidences and 60 plus fires. My question is why do don’t any alarms go off why didn’t any of the fail safes work? There not saying how anything about how it happened except that the fbi and the ntsb are investigating. There are no hotel rooms available anywhere near here it’s crazy
 Quoting: seorsa6


Each home has a regulator, to over come any main pressure deferences. There are also Regulator Stations through out the city in different section of the grid. It's all computerize, any major change in pressure is detected and adjusted to the proper pressure. A major leak is the system should shut thing down immediately.


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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
So what they are saying now is that the entire system overpressurised forcing gas into homes. 100 plus incidences and 60 plus fires. My question is why do don’t any alarms go off why didn’t any of the fail safes work? There not saying how anything about how it happened except that the fbi and the ntsb are investigating. There are no hotel rooms available anywhere near here it’s crazy
 Quoting: seorsa6


Each home has a regulator, to over come any main pressure deferences. There are also Regulator Stations through out the city in different section of the grid. It's all computerize, any major change in pressure is detected and adjusted to the proper pressure. A major leak is the system should shut thing down immediately.


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can a cyber attack over-ride those controls? increase pressure?
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09/13/2018 10:11 PM

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I dont see how they could blow up 100+ buildings by just fkn with the gas lines.

They couldnt even pressurize it become the polypropylene pipe they use wouldn't hold the pressure.It would pop somewhere in the line outside the buildings killing the flow to the buildings.
 Quoting: MaxwellSmart007


Actually, here in the northeastern U.S., MOST (not all) gas meters are INSIDE houses, usually in the basement. The gas pipe that comes in from the street is strong non-flex steel pipe, which connects to the main gas meter in the basement. That's where the shut-off valves are (one pre-meter, one post-meter.)

So the only possible flexible piping would be inside the houses, and AFTER the meter.

I can also tell you that the ONLY place that flexible gas pipe is allowed to be used is to a stove or to a gas-heated clothing dryer. All other gas pipe connections must be non-flex steel.

So it seems to me that what happened here is that the pressure went up so high, it blew out the regulators in the gas meters themselves; filled up all or part of the basement, and BOOM.

Of course, I'm just speculating based on my own personal experience.

I know that when I lived in DeKalb County Georgia for a few years, the gas meters were OUTSIDE.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
So what they are saying now is that the entire system overpressurised forcing gas into homes. 100 plus incidences and 60 plus fires. My question is why do don’t any alarms go off why didn’t any of the fail safes work? There not saying how anything about how it happened except that the fbi and the ntsb are investigating. There are no hotel rooms available anywhere near here it’s crazy
 Quoting: seorsa6


Each home has a regulator, to over come any main pressure deferences. There are also Regulator Stations through out the city in different section of the grid. It's all computerize, any major change in pressure is detected and adjusted to the proper pressure. A major leak is the system should shut thing down immediately.


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09/13/2018 10:14 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
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09/13/2018 10:16 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
evacuating three towns would be a pretty big gas leak and if it was a pipe it would already have the fragrant in it.

I dont understand why three towns if it was only a few houses that blew.
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70-100 structures
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
“They have yet to talk to Columbia Gas”. Per the news. Are you kidding me.
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09/13/2018 10:17 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
100 + FIRES CONFIRMED [link to twitter.com (secure)]

Per scanner - MSP Air units are up, mutual aid from all over the state and southern NH is inbound, gang unit patrolling Lawrence projects...

Essex county scanners [link to www.broadcastify.com (secure)]

MBTA Service suspended [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

On ramps closed... [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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gang unit patrolling Lawrence projects...tyrone1
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Lawrence is a shithole.
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I've been there only once and it sketched me out. It's like the world abandoned it 80 years ago.
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Lots of gangs and drugs
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09/13/2018 10:18 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


[link to securityaffairs.co (secure)]
 Quoting: seorsa6


Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


"... but the attack did not impact operational technology."


it looks like that attack was just for data, not operational control.

CAN a hacker take control of operational systems?
Simple27

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09/13/2018 10:20 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Just got here! Could this be anything else other than a gas leak??
 Quoting: JimmyBones


Who knows. But the gas situation gives them the 'go ahead' to search every single structure (residential and business) in all three cities.
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09/13/2018 10:21 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


[link to securityaffairs.co (secure)]
 Quoting: seorsa6


Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


"... but the attack did not impact operational technology."


it looks like that attack was just for data, not operational control.

CAN a hacker take control of operational systems?
 Quoting: Sterling Malory Archer


Just a guess, but I would think so. Anyone know for sure?
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Sterling Malory Archer

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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 Quoting: seorsa6


Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


"... but the attack did not impact operational technology."


it looks like that attack was just for data, not operational control.

CAN a hacker take control of operational systems?
 Quoting: Sterling Malory Archer


Just a guess, but I would think so. Anyone know for sure?
 Quoting: Avenger1


just in case no one answers in this thread, i started a new thead...

Thread: is a cyber attack against gas utilities possible?
Revman

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09/13/2018 10:23 PM
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Lets not forget about the nuke facilities, that's a worry here.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


[link to securityaffairs.co (secure)]
 Quoting: seorsa6


Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


yep. this is a thing.

VIEDs. too.
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09/13/2018 10:26 PM

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know where your cut off valve is. sometimes it's at the curb and looks like a big bolt.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
This could have major impact on the power grid if they have to take down high pressure lines for repairs, more than half the grid runs on natural gas now in the northeast.
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Police and swat teams patroling neighborhoods is Lawrence.
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is there a volcano in Mass? wtf
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hmmmmm
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09/13/2018 10:29 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
i suggest we ban gas.
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Yes this is a clear case of Gas Violence

Gas Violence must be stopped!

If it saves one child's life Gas Violence must be stopped!
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Grid conditions look normal at the moment, the gas turbines run on higher pressure pipes so hopefully this didn't effect them:

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INB4 Dems will claim Russia did it and demand war, then attack Trump no matter what his decision is
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"My step-father and uncle both worked for Colombia Gas, but are now retired. They heard from people they know who still work there that they connected a low pressure line (1/3 pound) to a high pressure line (99 pound) by mistake. From what they've told me, there aren't regulators on the low pressure systems and it blew the internals of everyone's appliances apart."
 Quoting: fluffycat


It's calculated in PSI. The lowest pressure mains are about 7 PSI and a regulator aren't needed is correct. High pressures lines run bout 100 PSI. I don't see how anyone can make that kind a mistake. After installing the line the proper procedure is to check the system for possible leaks. This doesn't explains why the system didn't automatic shut down due to pressure deferences or a sudden drop in pressure to to a major leak.


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WTF is goin on? This is a preplanned event and nothing to do with the hurracane!

Updated plotting of confirmed fires and explosions by MSP Watch Center. 39 locations confirmed thus far. Number will grow. New responses ongoing. Reminder: all residents of Lawrence/Andover/N Andover who have Columbia Gas must evacuate, as should anyone else who smells gas. pic.twitter.com/IwD4phgTfu
— Mass State Police (@MassStatePolice) September 13, 2018

The town of Andover has put out 35 fires, Andover Fire Chief Michael Mansfield said in a statement. While all of the fires there have been put out, firefighters will still remain there overnight, Mansfield said.

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