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20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!

 
Simple27

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Just got here! Could this be anything else other than a gas leak??
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Who knows. But the gas situation gives them the 'go ahead' to search every single structure (residential and business) in all three cities.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


"... but the attack did not impact operational technology."


it looks like that attack was just for data, not operational control.

CAN a hacker take control of operational systems?
 Quoting: Sterling Malory Archer


Just a guess, but I would think so. Anyone know for sure?
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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 Quoting: seorsa6


Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


"... but the attack did not impact operational technology."


it looks like that attack was just for data, not operational control.

CAN a hacker take control of operational systems?
 Quoting: Sterling Malory Archer


Just a guess, but I would think so. Anyone know for sure?
 Quoting: Avenger1


just in case no one answers in this thread, i started a new thead...

Thread: is a cyber attack against gas utilities possible?
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09/13/2018 10:23 PM
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Lets not forget about the nuke facilities, that's a worry here.
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09/13/2018 10:25 PM

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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 Quoting: seorsa6


Maybe why the FBI is in there now.
 Quoting: Avenger1


yep. this is a thing.

VIEDs. too.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
know where your cut off valve is. sometimes it's at the curb and looks like a big bolt.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
This could have major impact on the power grid if they have to take down high pressure lines for repairs, more than half the grid runs on natural gas now in the northeast.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Police and swat teams patroling neighborhoods is Lawrence.
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is there a volcano in Mass? wtf
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hmmmmm
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
i suggest we ban gas.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Grid conditions look normal at the moment, the gas turbines run on higher pressure pipes so hopefully this didn't effect them:

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INB4 Dems will claim Russia did it and demand war, then attack Trump no matter what his decision is
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"My step-father and uncle both worked for Colombia Gas, but are now retired. They heard from people they know who still work there that they connected a low pressure line (1/3 pound) to a high pressure line (99 pound) by mistake. From what they've told me, there aren't regulators on the low pressure systems and it blew the internals of everyone's appliances apart."
 Quoting: fluffycat


It's calculated in PSI. The lowest pressure mains are about 7 PSI and a regulator aren't needed is correct. High pressures lines run bout 100 PSI. I don't see how anyone can make that kind a mistake. After installing the line the proper procedure is to check the system for possible leaks. This doesn't explains why the system didn't automatic shut down due to pressure deferences or a sudden drop in pressure to to a major leak.


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WTF is goin on? This is a preplanned event and nothing to do with the hurracane!

Updated plotting of confirmed fires and explosions by MSP Watch Center. 39 locations confirmed thus far. Number will grow. New responses ongoing. Reminder: all residents of Lawrence/Andover/N Andover who have Columbia Gas must evacuate, as should anyone else who smells gas. pic.twitter.com/IwD4phgTfu
— Mass State Police (@MassStatePolice) September 13, 2018

The town of Andover has put out 35 fires, Andover Fire Chief Michael Mansfield said in a statement. While all of the fires there have been put out, firefighters will still remain there overnight, Mansfield said.

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that the most expensive few pounds EVER !
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Just got here! Could this be anything else other than a gas leak??
 Quoting: JimmyBones


Just the other day the sun had a massive hole eruption, then the solar thing, florence, the earthquakes, now the gas explosions in 3 cities, the observatory, and the weird thing space, Wonder if that has anything to with it?
 Quoting: Diabolical


No solar eruptions/flares. Coronal hole and solar wind, yes, which occurs regularly.

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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 Quoting: seorsa6


This is a real possibility.


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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Something is not right.

This is hardly on the news....anywhere. This is a massive emergency.

Someone in the media had to of sent out a mass email saying downplay this for some reason. Makes you wonder if it was human error then the contracting company must be minority or owned by a dem politician.

If it was terrorism well then we all know we will never hear much about it.
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"My step-father and uncle both worked for Colombia Gas, but are now retired. They heard from people they know who still work there that they connected a low pressure line (1/3 pound) to a high pressure line (99 pound) by mistake. From what they've told me, there aren't regulators on the low pressure systems and it blew the internals of everyone's appliances apart."
 Quoting: fluffycat


Bullshit!
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
WTF is goin on? This is a preplanned event and nothing to do with the hurracane!

Updated plotting of confirmed fires and explosions by MSP Watch Center. 39 locations confirmed thus far. Number will grow. New responses ongoing. Reminder: all residents of Lawrence/Andover/N Andover who have Columbia Gas must evacuate, as should anyone else who smells gas. pic.twitter.com/IwD4phgTfu
— Mass State Police (@MassStatePolice) September 13, 2018

The town of Andover has put out 35 fires, Andover Fire Chief Michael Mansfield said in a statement. While all of the fires there have been put out, firefighters will still remain there overnight, Mansfield said.

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 Quoting: Revman


would have happened in NC too.
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Hopefully this was not a terror attack. Have a look at the Related Threads at the bottom of the page. It seems Massachusetts has had a problem like this before.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Is it true nobody has died? If so, that is a miracle in itself. I hope everyone is okay.
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Thread: Another 'Gas explosion' destroys 3 blocks in Massachusetts - 18 people hurt - UFO?


from 2012

I don't expect the the "authorities" to admit a terrorist attack, even if it was.

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Something is not right.

This is hardly on the news....anywhere. This is a massive emergency.

Someone in the media had to of sent out a mass email saying downplay this for some reason. Makes you wonder if it was human error then the contracting company must be minority or owned by a dem politician.

If it was terrorism well then we all know we will never hear much about it.
 Quoting: Only Original Documents


this has been a terrorism plot for over 2 years.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
This is a pre-planned timed event to coincide with florence from one of our many adversaries.

Iran
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Hopefully this was not a terror attack. Have a look at the Related Threads at the bottom of the page. It seems Massachusetts has had a problem like this before.
 Quoting: Anonymous without the Mask


so there's always enough room for a conspiracy theory? That's brilliant. the perfect crime. again and again until the US is broke and completely vulnerable.

keep your bugout bags packed.
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This is a pre-planned timed event to coincide with florence from one of our many adversaries.

Iran
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yep.


the chemical weapons in Idbid hasn't happened yet...

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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
Check this out. Gas line cyber attack.


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 Quoting: seorsa6


This is a real possibility.


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 Quoting: Terrebonne


glassesoff
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
There is an Imam in Boston who is in charge of the whole operation in the US. He is over 8 other prominent Imams who are calling the shots of terrorism cells.

Be aware, be prepared.
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Re: 20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!!
On a system that large, it's quite likely that the main stepdown pressure regulator would be controlled with a PID loop via a PLC.

Most of those systems have zero security features, anyone with Allen Bradley software could do whatever they wanted with a few clicks if they had access to the network, which isn't necessarily easy since most of these SCADA systems are on isolated subnets... but bust a lock and gain physical access and it would be a matter of plugging in a cable and you're online.

But to look at the logic and actually know what to do, you'd need knowledge of the system to be able to really wreak havoc.

But still you would have to imagine that there would be rupture disks somewhere that would burst, or excess flow valves that would slam shut when the high pressure gas rocketed into the low pressure pipe.

This really shouldn't have been able to happen on a well engineered system, no matter how knowledgeable a person who was at the controls.





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