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Why didn't Moses enter the Promised Land after leading those difficult people who he did so far?

 
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“To you I raise my eyes, you who are enthroned in the heavens.”—PS. 123:1.


HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER?

In what sense should our eyes look to Jehovah?

Why did Moses lose his privilege of entering the Promised Land?

What lessons do we learn from what happened to Moses?

1, 2. What is involved in fixing our eyes on Jehovah?

WE ARE living in “critical times” that are “hard to deal with,” and life is going to become even more difficult before a new day dawns and true peace is restored to this earth. (2 Tim. 3:1) So we do well to ask ourselves, ‘Where am I looking for help and direction?’ Our immediate answer may be, “To Jehovah,” and that is the best response.

2 What is involved in looking to Jehovah? And how can we make sure that our eyes remain fixed on him as we face life’s complex challenges? Centuries ago, a psalmist acknowledged the need for us to raise our eyes to Jehovah for help in times of need. (Read Psalm 123:1-4.) He compared our looking to Jehovah with the way a servant looks to his master. What did the psalmist mean by that? Well, not only does a servant look to his master for food and protection but the servant needs constantly to watch his master to discern his wishes and then to carry them out. In a similar way, we daily need to search God’s Word to ascertain what Jehovah’s will is for us personally and then to follow that direction. Only then can we be sure that Jehovah will show us favor in our time of need.—Eph. 5:17.

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“To you I raise my eyes, you who are enthroned in the heavens.”—PS. 123:1.


HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER?

In what sense should our eyes look to Jehovah?

Why did Moses lose his privilege of entering the Promised Land?

What lessons do we learn from what happened to Moses?

1, 2. What is involved in fixing our eyes on Jehovah?

WE ARE living in “critical times” that are “hard to deal with,” and life is going to become even more difficult before a new day dawns and true peace is restored to this earth. (2 Tim. 3:1) So we do well to ask ourselves, ‘Where am I looking for help and direction?’ Our immediate answer may be, “To Jehovah,” and that is the best response.

2 What is involved in looking to Jehovah? And how can we make sure that our eyes remain fixed on him as we face life’s complex challenges? Centuries ago, a psalmist acknowledged the need for us to raise our eyes to Jehovah for help in times of need. (Read Psalm 123:1-4.) He compared our looking to Jehovah with the way a servant looks to his master. What did the psalmist mean by that? Well, not only does a servant look to his master for food and protection but the servant needs constantly to watch his master to discern his wishes and then to carry them out. In a similar way, we daily need to search God’s Word to ascertain what Jehovah’s will is for us personally and then to follow that direction. Only then can we be sure that Jehovah will show us favor in our time of need.—Eph. 5:17.
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3. What can distract us from keeping our eyes fixed on Jehovah?

3 Although we know the importance of continually looking to Jehovah, we may at times become distracted. That is exactly what happened to Jesus’ close friend Martha. She became “distracted with attending to many duties.” (Luke 10:40-42) If that could happen to such a faithful person when Jesus was physically with her, we should not be surprised if the same thing could happen to us. What, then, can distract us from keeping our eyes fixed on Jehovah? In this article, we will examine how the actions of others could distract us. We will also learn how to remain focused on Jehovah.
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It wasn't all about him -- a murderer but a righteous man.


It was about the next generation -- and subsequent generations.


I think he would have understood.
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It wasn't all about him -- a murderer but a righteous man.


It was about the next generation -- and subsequent generations.


I think he would have understood.
 Quoting: Adytum


What about the next generation?
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It wasn't all about him -- a murderer but a righteous man.


It was about the next generation -- and subsequent generations.


I think he would have understood.
 Quoting: Adytum


What about the next generation?
 Quoting: DGN


They were the ones allowed to enter.


Led by JOSHUA (YEHOSHUA).


HINT, HINT, HINT.
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It wasn't all about him -- a murderer but a righteous man.


It was about the next generation -- and subsequent generations.


I think he would have understood.
 Quoting: Adytum


What about the next generation?
 Quoting: DGN


They were the ones allowed to enter.


Led by JOSHUA (YEHOSHUA).


HINT, HINT, HINT.
 Quoting: Adytum

Yes gotcha, the 40 years of wandering. What was the message?

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bigger picture view

Moses represents the Law

Joshua represents Yeshua Messiah

The Promised land represents the "saved / redeemed" life

the law cannot save or redeem
therefore it cannot lead you into the promised land
the law can only lead you to the edge of the promised land and inform you that you are not in the promised land nor are capable of entering it yourself
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bigger picture view

Moses represents the Law

Joshua represents Yeshua Messiah

The Promised land represents the "saved / redeemed" life

the law cannot save or redeem
therefore it cannot lead you into the promised land
the law can only lead you to the edge of the promised land and inform you that you are not in the promised land nor are capable of entering it yourself
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Excellent reasoning, I never heard it expressed that way.
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Because he was Egyptian.
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Because he was Egyptian.
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So that's it, that chump tried to sneak in with the Hebrews where he would proclaim himself pharaoh and make them start all over building a pyramid for himself? No way Moe.
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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
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One looking on would likely say Moses did believe because he made water come out. Did God have other issue with Moses?
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It wasn't all about him -- a murderer but a righteous man.


It was about the next generation -- and subsequent generations.


I think he would have understood.
 Quoting: Adytum


What about the next generation?
 Quoting: DGN


They were the ones allowed to enter.


Led by JOSHUA (YEHOSHUA).


HINT, HINT, HINT.
 Quoting: Adytum

Yes gotcha, the 40 years of wandering. What was the message?
 Quoting: DGN

Well, there is another famous Yehoshua/Yeshuah/Yeshu...
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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
 Quoting: Shanky


One looking on would likely say Moses did believe because he made water come out. Did God have other issue with Moses?
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I provided you with the answer to your question.

Don't be obtuse.
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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
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One looking on would likely say Moses did believe because he made water come out. Did God have other issue with Moses?
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I provided you with the answer to your question.

Don't be obtuse.
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Yes that is a scriptural answer.
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A FAITHFUL MAN LOSES A PRIVILEGE

4. Why might we be surprised that Moses lost the privilege of entering the Promised Land?

4 Moses certainly looked to Jehovah for direction and guidance. Indeed, “he continued steadfast as seeing the One who is invisible.” (Read Hebrews 11:24-27.) The Bible record tells us that “there has never again arisen a prophet in Israel like Moses, whom Jehovah knew face-to-face.” (Deut. 34:10) But even though Moses had such a close relationship with Jehovah, he still lost the privilege of entering the Promised Land. (Num. 20:12) What caused Moses to stumble?
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Side note: This is why the rapture never made sense to me.

Moses suffered...Jesus suffered even worse.

And yet we are not going to suffer?
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
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The answer for those who 'don't' have eyes to see AND ears to hear is the scripture given above.

Looking deeper we know that Moses was first taken out of the water....

water flows in the path of least resistance......down to the sea/see......

Whether the number of years was 400 in Egypt or 40 in the wilderness.... the base number is 4/dalet/d .....representing resistance....

Resistance/4 comes after movement/3 ....... and must be embraced rather than rejected......

The promised land came to those who 'embraced' resistance...of the so called giants.....

Jesus embraced Judas..... meaning Jesus with a D added....Jesus embraced death......

We, seekers and knowers, must not 'strike the Rock' to get our 'water' ..... we speak to 'him'.....

for he is the same 'rock' that Jacob laid his head on before his name change.......Is-Ra-El

The same 'Rock' who made the journey down in to Egypt....thru the wilderness .....coming out as 'My Son Is-Ra-El.

The 'sperm/under 20' must journey to the 'egg/promised land' ...embrace/penetrate it for the creation of 'existence'.....and the formation of 'life'.....
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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
 Quoting: Shanky


One looking on would likely say Moses did believe because he made water come out. Did God have other issue with Moses?
 Quoting: DGN


I provided you with the answer to your question.

Don't be obtuse.
 Quoting: Shanky


Yes that is a scriptural answer.
 Quoting: DGN


God gave Moses a test. He didn't believe and entrust God fully. So, therefore Moses would never see the promised land...

Who passed this test was Abraham. God told him to take his beloved son Isaac and offer him as a sacrifice. Abraham obeyed and was only stopped by God telling him not to sacrifice the child Isaac.

Therefore, true belief with no doubts is what God wants from his people...
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Side note: This is why the rapture never made sense to me.

Moses suffered...Jesus suffered even worse.

And yet we are not going to suffer?
 Quoting: Mental Case


The 'rapture' theory is a misunderstanding of the first resurrection which occurred in heaven in 1914, and how the majority of the 144,000 will join them in heaven to serve as assistant kings, spontaneously as they die off, not by resurrection. It takes two scriptures to understand, not a simple subject;
1. "Moreover, brothers, we do not want YOU to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that YOU may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope. 14 For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him. 15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord." 1Thes4:13

2. " However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when [this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and] this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying will take place that is written: “Death is swallowed up forever.” 1Cor15:50
The point here is only a few thousand first century Christians were in the first resurrection, the vast majority were chosen during the last days, starting in 1914, and never actually died but were instantly transformed into spirit creatures in heaven as they 'died off'.

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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
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the rock is a type of Christ,,,
Moses struck the rock like he did the first time in the desert,,he was told thereafter to speak to the rock

And so Christ was sacrificed ONCE,, for all,,(the rock was struck)
after His crucifixion, we are to speak to Him, not strike Him again...


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Side note: This is why the rapture never made sense to me.

Moses suffered...Jesus suffered even worse.

And yet we are not going to suffer?
 Quoting: Mental Case


The rapture is a nebulous term that isn't in the Bible. The concept of it as described in Thessalonians will be DURING the tribulation. Likely mid tribulation because even YHWH doesn't want us to suffer through His wrath of the second half.

Those thinking they get to skirt suffering as they've been taught by apostate churches is NOT scriptural. This "rapture" will not take place before the tribulation thereby allowing people to escape the horrors.

Slowly, some churches are awakening to this fact. The Church will go through the first 3.5 years. This first 3.5 years will separate the wheat from the chaff.

Once you have no choice but to take the mark, your future will be secured based on your choice. Many who claim to be His children will take the mark. There's no going back from that.

Once you take the mark, there is no return.

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Side note: This is why the rapture never made sense to me.

Moses suffered...Jesus suffered even worse.

And yet we are not going to suffer?
 Quoting: Mental Case


The rapture is a nebulous term that isn't in the Bible. The concept of it as described in Thessalonians will be DURING the tribulation. Likely mid tribulation because even YHWH doesn't want us to suffer through His wrath of the second half.

Those thinking they get to skirt suffering as they've been taught by apostate churches is NOT scriptural. This "rapture" will not take place before the tribulation thereby allowing people to escape the horrors.

Slowly, some churches are awakening to this fact. The Church will go through the first 3.5 years. This first 3.5 years will separate the wheat from the chaff.

Once you have no choice but to take the mark, your future will be secured based on your choice. Many who claim to be His children will take the mark. There's no going back from that.

Once you take the mark, there is no return.
 Quoting: Shanky


The majority of the 144,000 chosen to serve as kings since 1914 have already 'died' and were spontaneously transformed into spirit creatures, only an unknown number will still be alive during the tribulation.
"Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye," 1Cor15:52

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Moses struck the rock rather than speaking to it as he was instructed.

“Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.” 9 And Moses took the staff from before the Lord, as he commanded him. 10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, “Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.”
Numbers 20:8-12 ESV
 Quoting: Shanky


One looking on would likely say Moses did believe because he made water come out. Did God have other issue with Moses?
 Quoting: DGN


I provided you with the answer to your question.

Don't be obtuse.
 Quoting: Shanky


Yes that is a scriptural answer.
 Quoting: DGN


What other answer were you looking for?
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Side note: This is why the rapture never made sense to me.

Moses suffered...Jesus suffered even worse.

And yet we are not going to suffer?
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The rapture is a nebulous term that isn't in the Bible. The concept of it as described in Thessalonians will be DURING the tribulation. Likely mid tribulation because even YHWH doesn't want us to suffer through His wrath of the second half.

Those thinking they get to skirt suffering as they've been taught by apostate churches is NOT scriptural. This "rapture" will not take place before the tribulation thereby allowing people to escape the horrors.

Slowly, some churches are awakening to this fact. The Church will go through the first 3.5 years. This first 3.5 years will separate the wheat from the chaff.

Once you have no choice but to take the mark, your future will be secured based on your choice. Many who claim to be His children will take the mark. There's no going back from that.

Once you take the mark, there is no return.
 Quoting: Shanky


The majority of the 144,000 chosen to serve as kings since 1914 have already 'died' and were spontaneously transformed into spirit creatures, only an unknown number will still be alive during the tribulation.
"Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye," 1Cor15:52
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OK, you're as nutty as a squirrel turd.

You read scripture as you read it. Get Help. Seriously.

Good luck with that.

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One looking on would likely say Moses did believe because he made water come out. Did God have other issue with Moses?
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I provided you with the answer to your question.

Don't be obtuse.
 Quoting: Shanky


Yes that is a scriptural answer.
 Quoting: DGN


What other answer were you looking for?
 Quoting: Shanky


The scripture "because you did not believe in me" is without specific definition, certainly Moses believed in God so....?
DGN  (OP)

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Re: Why didn't Moses enter the Promised Land after leading those difficult people who he did so far?
Side note: This is why the rapture never made sense to me.

Moses suffered...Jesus suffered even worse.

And yet we are not going to suffer?
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The rapture is a nebulous term that isn't in the Bible. The concept of it as described in Thessalonians will be DURING the tribulation. Likely mid tribulation because even YHWH doesn't want us to suffer through His wrath of the second half.

Those thinking they get to skirt suffering as they've been taught by apostate churches is NOT scriptural. This "rapture" will not take place before the tribulation thereby allowing people to escape the horrors.

Slowly, some churches are awakening to this fact. The Church will go through the first 3.5 years. This first 3.5 years will separate the wheat from the chaff.

Once you have no choice but to take the mark, your future will be secured based on your choice. Many who claim to be His children will take the mark. There's no going back from that.

Once you take the mark, there is no return.
 Quoting: Shanky


The majority of the 144,000 chosen to serve as kings since 1914 have already 'died' and were spontaneously transformed into spirit creatures, only an unknown number will still be alive during the tribulation.
"Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye," 1Cor15:52
 Quoting: DGN


OK, you're as nutty as a squirrel turd.

You read scripture as you read it. Get Help. Seriously.

Good luck with that.
 Quoting: Shanky


The heavenly invitation does not apply to me, and the 144,000 may have all been chosen, we're not on a need to know basis, but I'm not invited.
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Re: Why didn't Moses enter the Promised Land after leading those difficult people who he did so far?
Even when you're shown the truth via scripture you wish to argue.

I will no longer cast my pearls before a swine.

Good bye.
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Re: Why didn't Moses enter the Promised Land after leading those difficult people who he did so far?
Even when you're shown the truth via scripture you wish to argue.

I will no longer cast my pearls before a swine.

Good bye.
 Quoting: Shanky


Yes you will you can't resist, but I commend you're failure, most never even try. So.. I'm setting my stop watch.....
rolleyes
BTW do you need a shirt?

Last Edited by DGN on 09/14/2018 10:34 PM





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