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So was the lady cop in Dallas right to shoot the guy whom she thought was in her apartment? | |
jake  User ID: 76890717  United States09/15/2018 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a political hotbox, the DA would be fool not to charge her. it will be the end of his or her career if she doesn't That cop is in serious trouble Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| 3643297 User ID: 76832232 United States09/15/2018 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If only he had just refused to open the door with her knocking and banging on it shouting ‘let me in, let me in’ as neighbors reported, he might still be alive today. Not blaming the victim, just pointing out that for safety don’t be so quick and fearless to open your door and confront an angry person banging on your door. Even in a safe and upscale neighborhood. |
| jake User ID: 76890717 United States09/15/2018 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If only he had just refused to open the door with her knocking and banging on it shouting ‘let me in, let me in’ as neighbors reported, he might still be alive today. Not blaming the victim, just pointing out that for safety don’t be so quick and fearless to open your door and confront an angry person banging on your door. Even in a safe and upscale neighborhood. Quoting: 3643297 if she thought it was her apartment why didnt she just use the key and open the door?? Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| Sikhed User ID: 5898996 United States09/15/2018 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesn't matter what the controlling Texas Law is. She was a cop, right? Quoting: seekinginformation If it was a cop what dunnit, it was the right thing to do. Because, it was a cop what dunnit! Who are YOU to question your Betters? Cops are supposedly trained professionals and are held to a higher standard than mere peons like us. (but i see your sarcasm) :doom360: |
| curry nosher User ID: 76938787  Nepal09/15/2018 11:19 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For crying out loud!!! Of course she was wrong...she murdered an innocent man. Quoting: WHITE GLOVES Geeze, need we debate this? I promise not really trying to debate this. I have been told by someone close to me that she was still right. I think the person is nuts. I have been told I am acting out of emotion and not based on facts of the Texas Penal code. It was just an accident. I do not agree. But I am trying to be objective. It was an unfortunate incident but you cannot go around killing people and base your defence on 'But i thought' , not even a cop. This guy was completely innocent in his own place etc and her actions cost him his life, she should be punished for it as any other would. I am fairly sure if anyone else used that as an excuse it would be laughed out of court and you would up for a long sentence. |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/15/2018 11:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Desert Storm Paratrooper 71L User ID: 76939000 United States09/15/2018 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it was wrong. Quoting: Sikhed She made a fatal error in judgement. That's involuntary manslaughter in anyone's book. Ok but what does the Texas Penal code have to say? I believe Texas has the "Castle Doctrine" where any domicile's owner/renter can shoot an intruder if they consider that person to be a threat. Officer Guyger would be protected both under that statute and in her role as a peace officer -- given what she understood at the time of the shooting, which is that she entered what she thought was her apartment and was confronted by a threatening individual who refused to comply with her commands. So this was a legal shoot given what the officer understood at the time |
| 3643297 User ID: 76832232 United States09/15/2018 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If only he had just refused to open the door with her knocking and banging on it shouting ‘let me in, let me in’ as neighbors reported, he might still be alive today. Not blaming the victim, just pointing out that for safety don’t be so quick and fearless to open your door and confront an angry person banging on your door. Even in a safe and upscale neighborhood. Quoting: 3643297 if she thought it was her apartment why didnt she just use the key and open the door?? If she tried her key and it didn’t work, seems like she would start thinking and look around and figure out wrong apartment rather than knocking and yelling, unless she lives with someone who she thought was home. |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/15/2018 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it was wrong. Quoting: Sikhed She made a fatal error in judgement. That's involuntary manslaughter in anyone's book. Ok but what does the Texas Penal code have to say? I believe Texas has the "Castle Doctrine" where any domicile's owner/renter can shoot an intruder if they consider that person to be a threat. Officer Guyger would be protected both under that statute and in her role as a peace officer -- given what she understood at the time of the shooting, which is that she entered what she thought was her apartment and was confronted by a threatening individual who refused to comply with her commands. So this was a legal shoot given what the officer understood at the time Ok, but she was in the wrong apartment, not her own. Does that give rise to manslaughter? Phoenix Light |
| jake User ID: 76890717 United States09/15/2018 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a political hotbox, the DA would be fool not to charge her. it will be the end of his or her career if she doesn't That cop is in serious trouble I agree. But was it seriously manslaughter or simply a charge based upon Politics? have you ever worked in government??? Everything you do, is always about politics. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| 3643297 User ID: 76832232 United States09/15/2018 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it was wrong. Quoting: Sikhed She made a fatal error in judgement. That's involuntary manslaughter in anyone's book. Ok but what does the Texas Penal code have to say? I believe Texas has the "Castle Doctrine" where any domicile's owner/renter can shoot an intruder if they consider that person to be a threat. Officer Guyger would be protected both under that statute and in her role as a peace officer -- given what she understood at the time of the shooting, which is that she entered what she thought was her apartment and was confronted by a threatening individual who refused to comply with her commands. So this was a legal shoot given what the officer understood at the time But she was off duty at the time it happened. |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/15/2018 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a political hotbox, the DA would be fool not to charge her. it will be the end of his or her career if she doesn't That cop is in serious trouble I agree. But was it seriously manslaughter or simply a charge based upon Politics? have you ever worked in government??? Everything you do, is always about politics. No, I have not. But I would want this to be decided based upon law not politics. Phoenix Light |
| jake User ID: 76890717 United States09/15/2018 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jake Its a political hotbox, the DA would be fool not to charge her. it will be the end of his or her career if she doesn't That cop is in serious trouble I agree. But was it seriously manslaughter or simply a charge based upon Politics? have you ever worked in government??? Everything you do, is always about politics. No, I have not. But I would want this to be decided based upon law not politics. LOL, good luck with that one! That's why I said, if I were DA I would put it in front of a Grand Jury and just let them handle it. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 09/15/2018 11:40 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| Desert Storm Paratrooper 71L User ID: 76939000 United States09/15/2018 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it was wrong. Quoting: Sikhed She made a fatal error in judgement. That's involuntary manslaughter in anyone's book. Ok but what does the Texas Penal code have to say? I believe Texas has the "Castle Doctrine" where any domicile's owner/renter can shoot an intruder if they consider that person to be a threat. Officer Guyger would be protected both under that statute and in her role as a peace officer -- given what she understood at the time of the shooting, which is that she entered what she thought was her apartment and was confronted by a threatening individual who refused to comply with her commands. So this was a legal shoot given what the officer understood at the time But she was off duty at the time it happened. Doesn't matter -- an off-duty officer who can be identified by virtue of being in uniform can still give lawful orders. Officer Guyger says she gave commands to the deceased, yet he still continued to pose a threat to her, and as a result was shot. Last Edited by Desert Storm Paratrooper 71L on 09/15/2018 11:48 PM |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/15/2018 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Phoenix Light I agree. But was it seriously manslaughter or simply a charge based upon Politics? have you ever worked in government??? Everything you do, is always about politics. No, I have not. But I would want this to be decided based upon law not politics. LOL, good luck with that one! That's why I said, if I were DA I would put it in front of a Grand Jury and just let them handle it. Yeah, I know. Phoenix Light |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/15/2018 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe Texas has the "Castle Doctrine" where any domicile's owner/renter can shoot an intruder if they consider that person to be a threat. Officer Guyger would be protected both under that statute and in her role as a peace officer -- given what she understood at the time of the shooting, which is that she entered what she thought was her apartment and was confronted by a threatening individual who refused to comply with her commands. So this was a legal shoot given what the officer understood at the time But she was off duty at the time it happened. Doesn't matter -- an off-duty officer who can be identified by virtue of being in uniform can still give lawful orders. Officer Guyger says she gave commands to the deceased, yet he still continued to pose a threat to her, and as a result was shot. Still at the wrong door....which I believe gives rise to Manslaughter Phoenix Light |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41173011 United States09/15/2018 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Texas the Law is If you feel you are in immediate imminent danger you are allow to use deadly force to protect yourself. Imaging you come to what you thought was your home after a long days work and what you thought was your door was ajar and inside it was dark. You see a figure you can't make out. As a cop you are not the most liked person anyway. So you give the individual standard commands and there is no compliance as is the case of most blacks when the police are involved. People just don't get it, don't argue with the police, do as your told. You'll get to tell your story, either when you comply and the cop feels safe....or in some cases in court. |
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| 3643297 User ID: 76832232 United States09/15/2018 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Desert Storm Paratrooper 71L I believe Texas has the "Castle Doctrine" where any domicile's owner/renter can shoot an intruder if they consider that person to be a threat. Officer Guyger would be protected both under that statute and in her role as a peace officer -- given what she understood at the time of the shooting, which is that she entered what she thought was her apartment and was confronted by a threatening individual who refused to comply with her commands. So this was a legal shoot given what the officer understood at the time But she was off duty at the time it happened. Doesn't matter -- an off-duty officer who can be identified by virtue of being in uniform can still give lawful orders. Officer Guyger says she gave commands to the deceased, yet he still continued to pose a threat to her, and as a result was shot. Still at the wrong door....which I believe gives rise to Manslaughter And no search warrant or any legal reason to demand entrance, and if he opened the door for her as neighbors claim, then he could be seen not to have a weapon, and what commands would you give to someone who opens their front door for you, get out this is my place? sound like she simply fired her gun at him. There is a problem with her version if the neighbors are correct. |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/15/2018 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Texas the Law is If you feel you are in immediate imminent danger you are allow to use deadly force to protect yourself. Imaging you come to what you thought was your home after a long days work and what you thought was your door was ajar and inside it was dark. You see a figure you can't make out. As a cop you are not the most liked person anyway. So you give the individual standard commands and there is no compliance as is the case of most blacks when the police are involved. People just don't get it, don't argue with the police, do as your told. You'll get to tell your story, either when you comply and the cop feels safe....or in some cases in court. Quoting: Homie B Honeydick She was at the wrong door and I believe that is manslaughter. Phoenix Light |
| Loup Garou User ID: 76178952 United States09/16/2018 12:02 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For crying out loud!!! Of course she was wrong...she murdered an innocent man. Quoting: WHITE GLOVES Geeze, need we debate this? I promise not really trying to debate this. I have been told by someone close to me that she was still right. I think the person is nuts. I have been told I am acting out of emotion and not based on facts of the Texas Penal code. It was just an accident. I do not agree. But I am trying to be objective. 1. she broke into a habitated dwelling. 2. she tresspassesed in a habitated dwelling. 3. she discharged her service revolver striking and killing the occupant of said habitated dwelling. 4. she criminally trespassed and broke the castle doctrine, also known as a castle law or a defense of habitation law, this is a legal doctrine that designates a person's abode or any legally occupied place. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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| Pilgrim001 User ID: 75732347 United States09/16/2018 12:07 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2nd degree murder. She (thought) she went to her front door. card didn't work, but she could tell someone was inside. She was incensed, banging on the door, yelling for whoever to open the door. He opened the door and she continued to yell garbage (lawful orders?) at him, he didn't respond instantaneously, so she killed him in a fit of rage. She was never in danger for her life. She is a psychopath. She made no effort to not kill him. His life was useless to her. She was channeling her inner Dirty Harry. No need for backup, just shoot the motherfucker. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Desert Storm Paratrooper 71L User ID: 76939000 United States09/16/2018 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Texas the Law is If you feel you are in immediate imminent danger you are allow to use deadly force to protect yourself. Imaging you come to what you thought was your home after a long days work and what you thought was your door was ajar and inside it was dark. You see a figure you can't make out. As a cop you are not the most liked person anyway. So you give the individual standard commands and there is no compliance as is the case of most blacks when the police are involved. People just don't get it, don't argue with the police, do as your told. You'll get to tell your story, either when you comply and the cop feels safe....or in some cases in court. Quoting: Homie B Honeydick THIS. I'd imagine that the deceased gave her some attitude along the lines of "who the Hell are you to tell me what to do ?!?" -- like so many blacks do Had he just complied the whole thing could have been sorted out and he would still be alive |
| Loup Garou User ID: 76178952 United States09/16/2018 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She thought she was at the right door. Manslaughter involves "willfull neglect" she order commands they were not complied with. no jury will find "willfull neglect" Quoting: Homie B Honeydick She gave illegal orders, fruit of the poisonous tree. She was trespassing, breaking and entering, the man had the full right to shoot her using the castle doctrine, also known as a castle law or a defense of habitation law, is a legal doctrine that designates a person's abode or any legally occupied place. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/16/2018 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She thought she was at the right door. Manslaughter involves "willfull neglect" she order commands they were not complied with. no jury will find "willfull neglect" Quoting: Homie B Honeydick In Texas its simply reckless actions with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct. She certainly was reckless with her actions, she shot in the dark, a man in his own home. Reckless. Phoenix Light |
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| Phoenix Light (OP) User ID: 71271182 United States09/16/2018 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Texas the Law is If you feel you are in immediate imminent danger you are allow to use deadly force to protect yourself. Imaging you come to what you thought was your home after a long days work and what you thought was your door was ajar and inside it was dark. You see a figure you can't make out. As a cop you are not the most liked person anyway. So you give the individual standard commands and there is no compliance as is the case of most blacks when the police are involved. People just don't get it, don't argue with the police, do as your told. You'll get to tell your story, either when you comply and the cop feels safe....or in some cases in court. Quoting: Homie B Honeydick THIS. I'd imagine that the deceased gave her some attitude along the lines of "who the Hell are you to tell me what to do ?!?" -- like so many blacks do Had he just complied the whole thing could have been sorted out and he would still be alive But there is no way we can know that. Phoenix Light |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41173011 United States09/16/2018 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2nd degree murder. Quoting: Pilgrim001 She (thought) she went to her front door. card didn't work, but she could tell someone was inside. She was incensed, banging on the door, yelling for whoever to open the door. He opened the door and she continued to yell garbage (lawful orders?) at him, he didn't respond instantaneously, so she killed him in a fit of rage. She was never in danger for her life. She is a psychopath. She made no effort to not kill him. His life was useless to her. She was channeling her inner Dirty Harry. No need for backup, just shoot the motherfucker. If that is true it is actually 1st degree because his civil right were also being viololate using her authority as a law enforcement officer. That being said, that was not the story I have been told...not really following it that close, been sick...But still, If he knew she was a cop, and didn't obey commands then who knows what the jury may decided. But the bottom line is still the same "IF" she felt in imeminent danger. Leathel force is allow. |
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