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The Truth about Cholesterol, Inflammation, and Cardiovascular Disease | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like cholesterol isn't the sole cause of cardiovascular disease But it is what causes it Like... Get it? Eating meat and saturated fats is NOT healthy... It's not. It will give you heart disease But it forms due to artery damage One needs to not eat meat or saturated fats.... AND... prevent artery damage.... to live a healthy life This is a good video.... He says that cholesterol doesn't give you heart disease, and that it's artery damage from things like infections and other things.... but cholesterol DOES cause heart disease..... by forming harmful plaque build-up.... which is caused by arterial damage like inflammation, etc.. But he details that things like infections, and other unhealthy things lead to heart disease But yeah.... No meat or fat... and.. like... prevent infections... Healthy living in all areas [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so... Prevent damage to arteries..... so like... prevent infections, unneeded stress... harmful chemicals.... no inflammation... And.... maintain healthy cholesterol levels by *completely* abstaining from meat and saturated fat Eat a *healthy* plant-based diet This will lead you to success |
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| Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 29487835 United States09/21/2018 07:18 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a lot of inflammation in my body because of rheumatoid arthritis. My cholesterol is good though. Is the kind of inflammation I have the same kind like you're talking about? Should I be worried about my heart? Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
| Colibri User ID: 76756058 United States09/21/2018 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body You might want to also add in there hereditary factors on that cholesterol. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a lot of inflammation in my body because of rheumatoid arthritis. My cholesterol is good though. Is the kind of inflammation I have the same kind like you're talking about? Should I be worried about my heart? Quoting: Only Me Well umm I was really referring to like... damage to arteries.... which cause plaque build up So like.... I'm not sure if the kind of inflammation you're talking about is the same that I am But I really don't know :P :P I would ask someone more knowledgeable about your condition But I think that preventing any kind of inflammation or damage to tissue is a good idea |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a lot of inflammation in my body because of rheumatoid arthritis. My cholesterol is good though. Is the kind of inflammation I have the same kind like you're talking about? Should I be worried about my heart? Quoting: Only Me But yeah... If you aren't already living a healthy lifestyle... and eating a healthy diet.... then I think it doing those things would help |
| Dax de Jagermeister User ID: 76698647 United States09/21/2018 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Argh! Quoting: synchro Sugar and carbs are so difficult to give up. At least I'm cutting way back. Cold turkey is tough but so is keeling over due to a coronary! Target no more than 50 grams of carbs per day. That is great reference point to get you going in the right direction. Good Luck! Dax de Jagermeister |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a lot of inflammation in my body because of rheumatoid arthritis. My cholesterol is good though. Is the kind of inflammation I have the same kind like you're talking about? Should I be worried about my heart? Quoting: Only Me Umm... But I have read that diet restrictions.... such as fasting and going vegan have either cured or extremely lessened all kinds of diseases..... including auto-immune diseases |
| bigfoot22 User ID: 76791680 United States09/21/2018 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation of the arteries, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body well that's nice and all...but what you said is literally what my doctor's have been telling me since I was 11. it's not a new discovery, it's just mainstream cardiovascular knowledge. but if you figured it out on your own without reading it...I guess that's good for you. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were threads on here long ago, where leading heart surgeons were saying that cholesterol is the good guy. Quoting: plzxplain It's there trying to heal the inflammation. The higher the cholesterol levels, the more it's trying to heal us. :P Well I do think that cholesterol tries to heal us.... But .. like.... when you have TOO MUCH damage.... and TOO MUCH of the cholesterol which is trying to heal you.... that leads to problems |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were threads on here long ago, where leading heart surgeons were saying that cholesterol is the good guy. Quoting: plzxplain It's there trying to heal the inflammation. The higher the cholesterol levels, the more it's trying to heal us. :P Well I do think that cholesterol tries to heal us.... But .. like.... when you have TOO MUCH damage.... and TOO MUCH of the cholesterol which is trying to heal you.... that leads to problems You don't want too much cholesterol in your blood |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation of the arteries, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body well that's nice and all...but what you said is literally what my doctor's have been telling me since I was 11. it's not a new discovery, it's just mainstream cardiovascular knowledge. but if you figured it out on your own without reading it...I guess that's good for you. I was really inspired to post this for the people who think that cholesterol doesn't even play a role in heart disease :P I know it's obvious and it been said for years.... but like.... there is a growing trend here on GLP in thinking that cholesterol has nothing to do with it |
| plzxplain User ID: 76957121 Australia09/21/2018 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Dwight Lundell is one of the many medical professionals who is speaking out against mainstream views on dietary fat and cholesterol. Dr. Lundell was a surgeon for more than 25 years and has performed more than 5000 open heart surgeries. He is also the author of the book The Great Cholesterol Lie. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Dwight Lundell is one of the many medical professionals who is speaking out against mainstream views on dietary fat and cholesterol. Dr. Lundell was a surgeon for more than 25 years and has performed more than 5000 open heart surgeries. He is also the author of the book The Great Cholesterol Lie. Quoting: plzxplain Yeah... Inflammation and artery damage causes cholesterol to make plaque... and then the plaque causes heart disease But that doesn't mean that it's a good idea to overload your blood with plaque forming cholesterol!! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body You might want to also add in there hereditary factors on that cholesterol. I won't... Because that's not a reason to not take measures in preventing heart disease If there is some hereditary factor going on..... then that gives you even more reason to do what I stated above |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76605146 United States09/21/2018 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Health Advantage of a Vegan Diet: Exploring the Gut Microbiota Connection [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] |
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| ConcreteBrunette User ID: 76863067 United States09/21/2018 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation of the arteries, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body Can someone answer me this: I have high cholesterol(run a in family) but very low trycliceroids. I read its the trycliceroids that cause the problems and that is what you need to watch. My doctor says no you must take nystatin which i refuse! |
| Petey the Pedophile Killer User ID: 76771055 United States09/21/2018 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body You might want to also add in there hereditary factors on that cholesterol. I won't... Because that's not a reason to not take measures in preventing heart disease If there is some hereditary factor going on..... then that gives you even more reason to do what I stated above THE only thing inherited is the fact that fat parents feed their fat children the same shitty food their parents gave them. Break the cycle... |
| Petey the Pedophile Killer User ID: 76771055 United States09/21/2018 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation of the arteries, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body Can someone answer me this: I have high cholesterol(run a in family) but very low trycliceroids. I read its the trycliceroids that cause the problems and that is what you need to watch. My doctor says no you must take nystatin which i refuse! It doesn’t run in your family. Your family eats all the same shit foods |
| 700llib User ID: 76955966 United States09/21/2018 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people say, "Heart disease isn't caused by cholesterol, it's caused by other things like inflammation of the arteries, infections, etc etc...."...... Quoting: Capt. James Cook ...I would say technically that is only half of it... Cholesterol is obviously... without a doubt.... a primary factor in heart disease.... it forms plaque in the arteries, and thus causes blockage.... But... the reason cholesterol forms plaque in the arteries is due to damage to the arteries... such as inflammation from infections, stress, etc... So like.... Would harmful plaque build up occur in someone's arteries without any arterial damage?? I'm not too sure.... But from what I know, it does when there is damage to the arteries.. So I liken it to a loaded gun.... Arterial damage, like inflammation, is like having a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.... in a sense... And harmful plaque build-up is the loaded bullet in a way Now like... I would say that the formation of plaque is a normal healthy bodily function in itself... but if there is too much arterial damage, from say inflammation.... and blood is over-loaded with plaque-forming cholesterol..... then bad complications arise... So like... really.... it's both artery damage AND too much cholesterol Complications arise from too much of both So yeah.. A healthy plant-based diet, without any meat or saturated fat...... along with things like preventing infections..... so NO sugar... and ONLY whole foods (like no white bread, etc)...... ... and as well as other healthy lifestyles choices..... like not over-stressing.... and avoid harmful chemicals..... like plastics, etc... the list goes on really.... There are many things which causes imbalance in the human body Can someone answer me this: I have high cholesterol(run a in family) but very low trycliceroids. I read its the trycliceroids that cause the problems and that is what you need to watch. My doctor says no you must take nystatin which i refuse! The statin stabilizes the plaque in your arteries so it doesn't break loose easily. As you age the arterial plaque can break loose causing stroke or heart attack. In my case it was a heart attack. Like you, I thought that I should stay away from the statin drugs because of the total shit people post about them as being harmful. Maybe statins are harmful but loosing 20% of your heart because of blockages is life changing harmful. I complained that I was on 5mg of Crestor. Now I am on 40mg of Crestor for the last year. My advice is to not listen to the idiots claiming they know about alternatives or how dangerous statins are because they are not your doctor and have no fricken clue about your lipid profile and family history. Just take the statin. 700llib |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76751174 United States09/21/2018 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hardened arteries are because calcium filled the space that vitamin k2 was supposed to fill, and calcium didnt go where it was supposed to. Also, the more carbs of any kind you eat, the more you need Vitamin C. The thing about eating meat, and a lot of it, is that you dont need to eat nearly as often. |
| Username Classified User ID: 76909969 United States09/21/2018 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humans lost the ability to make Vitamin c. Vitamin c is vital for a healthy cardiovascular system. When your body can't heal itself because of lack of vitamin c, it compensates by using cholesterol to coat the inflammation/damage. The RDA of vitamin c is way too low. Most people don't ever get enough. High dose vitamin c along with L-Lysine can help prevent/reverse plaque buildup. Look up the Pauling Therapy. It's ridiculed as quackery (of course, because if it works you can reverse cardiovascular disease on your own for less than $100) but there are plenty of testimonies of it working. |
