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Hydra User ID: 15685802 Germany 09/23/2018 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the very first human arrived they had no language to speak of. The art of communication must have evolved over a very very long period. Quoting: Aleksander The Great As a result there would have been no writing or record of our very first ancestors. The Biblical stories weren’t written until humans were well advanced in civilisation, long long after the first humans. So how can you believe what a tribe of people’s wrote to be THE definitive creation story with this in mind? There is no way they could have known about who or how the first humans came about. The real creation story: A long, long, long time ago a juvenile, not so bright alien made an experiment in science class ..... and BOOOM. Alien: "Oh fuck, I think I have created a universe!" Science teacher: "Shit happens some times." Of course worshipping a slightly demented young alien would make mankind look stupid, thus they made up a story about seven days, let it be light, Adam and Eve aso. Hope that helps. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again you’re not being logical. The authors of the text say it came from God but that is as logical as me saying this thread was inspired by God and you taking my word as proof. The fulfilled prophesies of the bible confirm it is. Which fulfilled prophecies? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again you’re not being logical. The authors of the text say it came from God but that is as logical as me saying this thread was inspired by God and you taking my word as proof. The fulfilled prophesies of the bible confirm it is. Which fulfilled prophecies? And why does prophecy prove it came from God. Isn’t prophecy witchcraft? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76951957 Ireland 09/23/2018 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Aleksander The Great Again you’re not being logical. The authors of the text say it came from God but that is as logical as me saying this thread was inspired by God and you taking my word as proof. The fulfilled prophesies of the bible confirm it is. Which fulfilled prophecies? And why does prophecy prove it came from God. Isn’t prophecy witchcraft? Because you would need to have foreknowledge to be right and only God does! And no, witchcraft is sin, prophecy is how God communicate s with his people! |
michaelj User ID: 76962337 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the very first human arrived they had no language to speak of. The art of communication must have evolved over a very very long period. Quoting: Aleksander The Great Or, there’s always been humans in existence and they’ve always been able to communicate. After all, if God is eternal then surely nature would follow the same eternal law. Michaelj |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why does prophecy prove it came from God. Isn’t prophecy witchcraft? Because you would need to have foreknowledge to be right and only God does! And no, witchcraft is sin, prophecy is how God communicate s with his people! On whose authority is prophecy how God communicates with his people? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the very first human arrived they had no language to speak of. The art of communication must have evolved over a very very long period. Quoting: Aleksander The Great Or, there’s always been humans in existence and they’ve always been able to communicate. After all, if God is eternal then surely nature would follow the same eternal law. Then please explain the dinosaur. Or the dodo. |
michaelj User ID: 76962337 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the very first human arrived they had no language to speak of. The art of communication must have evolved over a very very long period. Quoting: Aleksander The Great Or, there’s always been humans in existence and they’ve always been able to communicate. After all, if God is eternal then surely nature would follow the same eternal law. Then please explain the dinosaur. Or the dodo. I’ve no idea. Maybe they were friendly. Maybe they lived in one particular area away from humans. Michaelj |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the very first human arrived they had no language to speak of. The art of communication must have evolved over a very very long period. Quoting: Aleksander The Great Or, there’s always been humans in existence and they’ve always been able to communicate. After all, if God is eternal then surely nature would follow the same eternal law. Then please explain the dinosaur. Or the dodo. I’ve no idea. Maybe they were friendly. Maybe they lived in one particular area away from humans. So then why are you putting forth theories you admit you cannot explain as fact? Is this helpful to mankind? |
TlvmmCpoft User ID: 71722071 Italy 09/23/2018 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: michaelj Or, there’s always been humans in existence and they’ve always been able to communicate. After all, if God is eternal then surely nature would follow the same eternal law. Then please explain the dinosaur. Or the dodo. I’ve no idea. Maybe they were friendly. Maybe they lived in one particular area away from humans. So then why are you putting forth theories you admit you cannot explain as fact? Is this helpful to mankind? That's how we explain blacks, white, Asians, etc. They were all in their own parts. Also why certain animal species are only in some parts of the planet. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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michaelj User ID: 76962337 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: michaelj Or, there’s always been humans in existence and they’ve always been able to communicate. After all, if God is eternal then surely nature would follow the same eternal law. Then please explain the dinosaur. Or the dodo. I’ve no idea. Maybe they were friendly. Maybe they lived in one particular area away from humans. So then why are you putting forth theories you admit you cannot explain as fact? Is this helpful to mankind? I think it’s extremely helpful to ponder the nature of self and the world we experience and appear to inhabit. I didn’t put forward a theory; I simply proposed an alternative to your statement that a first human must have arrived. After all, how reasonable and logical is that? Did we suddenly poof into existence or evolve from nothing? Were they created by being who himself was not created? If God was not created then surely his children are not created. Michaelj |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’ve no idea. Maybe they were friendly. Maybe they lived in one particular area away from humans. So then why are you putting forth theories you admit you cannot explain as fact? Is this helpful to mankind? I think it’s extremely helpful to ponder the nature of self and the world we experience and appear to inhabit. I didn’t put forward a theory; I simply proposed an alternative to your statement that a first human must have arrived. After all, how reasonable and logical is that? Did we suddenly poof into existence or evolve from nothing? Were they created by being who himself was not created? If God was not created then surely his children are not created. If we weren’t created then what need of God? |
Ostria1 User ID: 76958089 Greece 09/23/2018 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Language is as old as the first humans. It probably started with plain sounds and cries, but still a way to communicate with each other. So language evolved in time and became more complex and could also transfer information and ideas to the next generations, which we call "oral tradition" long before they started writing it down. The writing systems came much later. But about your question, nearly every civilization had/has a religion as one of its main characteristics and every religion had/has its own creation story. Last Edited by Ostria1 on 09/23/2018 08:34 AM Ostria |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Language is as old as the first humans. It probably started with plain sounds and cries, but still a way to communicate with each other. So language evolved in time and became more complex and could also transfer information and ideas to the next generations, which we call "oral tradition" long before they started writing it down. The writing systems came much later. Quoting: Ostria1 But about your question, nearly every civilization had/has a religion as one of its main characteristics and every religion had/has its own creation story. Exactly. National stories for different nationalities. So why does a western people subscribe to a national creation story designed for a nomadic middle eastern tribe of people? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76951957 Ireland 09/23/2018 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why does prophecy prove it came from God. Isn’t prophecy witchcraft? Because you would need to have foreknowledge to be right and only God does! And no, witchcraft is sin, prophecy is how God communicate s with his people! On whose authority is prophecy how God communicates with his people? Gods! |
muh shekels User ID: 76918402 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Created taken from the dust of the ground which creates flora which in turn feeds fauna that we consume. Give thanks for your meal. Not primordial gloop as some transhumanists that have been staring too long at a computer screen would declare. Idols false light consumerism and the golden calf. Those that believed in that were put to death! Man worshipping himself or worshipping beast and the creation over the creator. Or the works of their own hands! muh |
michaelj User ID: 76962337 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: michaelj I’ve no idea. Maybe they were friendly. Maybe they lived in one particular area away from humans. So then why are you putting forth theories you admit you cannot explain as fact? Is this helpful to mankind? I think it’s extremely helpful to ponder the nature of self and the world we experience and appear to inhabit. I didn’t put forward a theory; I simply proposed an alternative to your statement that a first human must have arrived. After all, how reasonable and logical is that? Did we suddenly poof into existence or evolve from nothing? Were they created by being who himself was not created? If God was not created then surely his children are not created. If we weren’t created then what need of God? He doesn’t take a body so doesn’t absorb any effects from material existence so he remains in his original and authentic condition. We mix with matter and due to the nature of consciousness eventually become something we are not and we suffer. By having a relationship with God we can be returned to our original condition and become healthy and prosperous once again. Michaelj |
Ostria1 User ID: 76958089 Greece 09/23/2018 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. National stories for different nationalities. So why does a western people subscribe to a national creation story designed for a nomadic middle eastern tribe of people? Quoting: Aleksander The Great You know the answer. Its because of the globalization of a religion (in our case of Christianity). Still you will rarely meet a Christian Greek who believes in the Old Testament as their own myth/history/tradition, as we have our own which is more complete and interesting, imo. Ostria |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. National stories for different nationalities. So why does a western people subscribe to a national creation story designed for a nomadic middle eastern tribe of people? Quoting: Aleksander The Great You know the answer. Its because of the globalization of a religion (in our case of Christianity). Still you will rarely meet a Christian Greek who believes in the Old Testament as their own myth/history/tradition, as we have our own which is more complete and interesting, imo. More complete? You just admitted they are national stories. How can you be complete if it only caters for a particular people? More interesting than Greek or Roman or Indian, Chinese myth? That is purely a matter of opinion and slightly arrogant, sir. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Aleksander The Great So then why are you putting forth theories you admit you cannot explain as fact? Is this helpful to mankind? I think it’s extremely helpful to ponder the nature of self and the world we experience and appear to inhabit. I didn’t put forward a theory; I simply proposed an alternative to your statement that a first human must have arrived. After all, how reasonable and logical is that? Did we suddenly poof into existence or evolve from nothing? Were they created by being who himself was not created? If God was not created then surely his children are not created. If we weren’t created then what need of God? He doesn’t take a body so doesn’t absorb any effects from material existence so he remains in his original and authentic condition. We mix with matter and due to the nature of consciousness eventually become something we are not and we suffer. By having a relationship with God we can be returned to our original condition and become healthy and prosperous once again. Ok you’re positing this as fact yet you know there is no evidence to back this up. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76947127 United Kingdom 09/23/2018 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. National stories for different nationalities. So why does a western people subscribe to a national creation story designed for a nomadic middle eastern tribe of people? Quoting: Aleksander The Great You know the answer. Its because of the globalization of a religion (in our case of Christianity). Still you will rarely meet a Christian Greek who believes in the Old Testament as their own myth/history/tradition, as we have our own which is more complete and interesting, imo. Sorry I misread you. Yes Greek myth is very interesting. Not sure about the ‘more’ though. Each to their own. |