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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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That article only focuses on the KJV which is a translation and not original.

You need to look toward the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts from many centuries before... You will be amazed at the care taken to document the Word.
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we cannot be trusted with anything ! , any passages about women - get rid of that , going to church and donating all your money keep that in .... good to go
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Yeah, sure, because everyone knows that the Bible was written by King James I over the course of 20 years and then published in AD 1611.

Some of you don't read, or travel outside your basement a whole lot, do you?

Whoever wrote this article apparently had CommonCore theology classes.

Ignorance gone to seed.

I don't suppose they realize that the entire Greek Bible translation from the Hebrew already existed c. 200 BC, right?

I have no words to describe the patent stupidity of this article writer. I mean you have to I know a grand total of nothing to write that garbage. Which special education class did they draft from?

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That article was poorly written with an obviously biased erroneous conclusion drawn from the discovery of this manuscript. They assert that just because the scholars did not get a finalized product on the very first writing that is definitive proof it is not the Word of God... a ridiculous assertion to be sure; as if works that are 'divinely' channeled in one auto writing session would somehow hold more validity. It is quite obvious that a translation from texts with languages thousands of years old would neccessarily require a journal just like this to be made with any degree of accuracy; the Spirit is in the art required to make a translation that is both beautiful and accurate.
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Yeah, sure, because everyone knows that the Bible was written by King James I over the course of 20 years and then published in AD 1611.

Some of you don't read, or travel outside your basement a whole lot, do you?

Whoever wrote this article apparently had CommonCore theology classes.

Ignorance gone to seed.

I don't suppose they realize that the entire Greek Bible translation from the Hebrew already existed c. 200 BC, right?

I have no words to describe the patent stupidity of this article writer. I mean you have to I know a grand total of nothing to write that garbage. Which special education class did they draft from?
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lazyskate For those who would like to know more about how we came to get the KJV of the bible despite Rome's many attempts to stop it, here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract.

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That article only focuses on the KJV which is a translation and not original.

You need to look toward the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts from many centuries before... You will be amazed at the care taken to document the Word.
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we cannot be trusted with anything ! , any passages about women - get rid of that , going to church and donating all your money keep that in .... good to go
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Make sure to leave out some key scrolls and bury them in the desert that defy and contradict the parts they kept. Yeah do that too...had those scrolls been included there would be no "official church."

It's no wonder the "church" is being outed for it's abuse of children and parishoners right now. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

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The Bible is the history of God's interaction with mankind over +4000 years.

Perfect? Probably not, since human's wrote it all down, versus the 10 Commandments, as originally written by God Himself.

I trust the Father and His Son, that if anything in it is not correct, that it will be shown to me.

How is it that there are hundreds of historical people and archeological finds of places that match what the Bible says?

Don't you find it ironic that the Dead Sea Scrolls were not only discovered after nearly 2000 years, are basically the same as the Old Testament, AND were found the same year Israel came back into existence?

Archeologically-proven comparisons of texts are basically word-for-word.

It's a FACT that the manuscripts used for the Bible were chosen by a consensus of church leaders. And those MS were in basically ALL of the churches.

The manuscripts used by the Catholics AND the King James version for the New Testament had been in existence since the 1st Century.

The MS for the OT were even older...and are basically word for word with the Dead Sea Scrolls.

And copies of those SAME MS's were used to create the Bible.

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Surly this is a pisstake. Nobody can be this ignorant of how the Bible came to be, its common knowledge, even among atheists. Is this a spoof site?

The KJV comes from Greek and Hebrew texts thousands of years old, which we have to this day. The discovery of the dead sea scrolls (oldest versions of some of these texts) confirmed these texts to be accurate and unchanged over time. This article is an utter joke. We can check the KJV against these texts to see how accurate the translations are. Therefore not made up in the 15 century in the UK. What a stupid thing to say.

The only question is, whether the original texts have any truth to them. This is why we have Christians and Atheists (and other beliefs too).

OP...are you having a laugh? Or are you really dumb enough to fall for this joke?
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To be logical in my reply,
I will say the following....

This discovery may very well be authentic in relation to the KJV but to say that this draft is a reflection of the entirety of the bible is nonsense. The time frame alone of the KJV of the bible and the Hebrew Old Testament is too greet to claim this draft supports attacks against the original Old Testament written in Hebrew
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That article only focuses on the KJV which is a translation and not original.

You need to look toward the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts from many centuries before... You will be amazed at the care taken to document the Word.
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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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Cue all the apologists with their lame excuses. But but but...

Nice find OP. These demons will disrobed of their cloak of evil eventually.

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That article only focuses on the KJV which is a translation and not original.

You need to look toward the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts from many centuries before... You will be amazed at the care taken to document the Word.
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This is totally fake...


The bible is the most thoroughly documented book in history...


The full and exact new testament has been traced all the way back to the Codex Vatanus which was written in about 300AD.

On top of that, original letters from the new testament (Mark)have been found dating to 70AD...

There is absolutely zero room for error, bible scholars have proved all this already, so anything else is just made up fake info.




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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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Cue all the apologists with their lame excuses. But but but...

Nice find OP. These demons will disrobed of their cloak of evil eventually.

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of course it is, its been modified thousands of times over the years and words don't mean anything. its all fake
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of course it is, its been modified thousands of times over the years and words don't mean anything. its all fake
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The very first thing that folks need to realize is that there are always issues when it comes to translating certain things from one language to another. And it's almost always inanimate things like concepts, feelings, beliefs etc...

Some things just aren't possible to represent in another language. Culture has a large roll in that.

The VAST majority of the so-called differences in various Bibles come from these facts.

And the differences really don't change anything pertaining to basic Faith nor Belief.

1. Newer Bibles are based on OLDER manuscripts that were not known of in King James' time or before that.

2. Many newer Bibles attempt to reword things into "modern language" in an attempt for better understanding.

3. Some words and even concepts are pretty much impossible to convey / translate into the language of another society.

4. Scribes sometimes made copying errors, or even THOUGHT that they personally could ADD a word or two for create a "better understanding".

5. Contradictions, for the most part, are analytical errors in comprehension easily explained by understanding context.

Thread: Hebrews Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrews

Are there errors?

Sure, but for the most part they have nothing to do with the basic storyline.

Just certain passages.

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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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it is an interpretation, there is Greek text from which you can derive your own interpretation.
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I am thankful for the Bible, yet I feel that the Bible has been idolized. The first Christians didn’t have a Bible but they were much holier people than what we seen to be today. Reading the Bible is good but doing what it says is far better and to summarize the crux of its teaching: Love God first and love others as yourself. The evidence of obedience to these chief commands is to do for others what you would want done for you. Let me add this; i believe you could destroy all the Bibles in the world and still not destroy the Word of God. As for this article - just one more attempt to discredit the Truth.
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Why is it they always attack the King James Bible?
Because it's the true word of God.
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Ignorance gone to seed.


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I love this comment. Not just in this context, but applicable to many things we see. I'll be stealing/using this. Fair warning.
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Why is it they always attack the King James Bible?
Because it's the true word of God.
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So why isn’t it called God’s bible instead of king james’ Bible?
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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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66 Books, you think those writers sat down together for tea and wrote?
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Why is it they always attack the King James Bible?
Because it's the true word of God.
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So why isn’t it called God’s bible instead of king james’ Bible?
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Here's the back story to that version of the Bible.

The bible was never suppose to be owned or read by anyone that wasn't in the clergy.

A guy started printing it so the common people could read it.

He was hunted down and killed.

I think it was King Henry that wanted a divorce but the church wouldn't grant him one.

He broke away from the church and started the church of England and had the bible translated to create the KJ bible that the common folks could own and read.

He basically stuck it into the popes eye.

This was a short time after he had his men track down the guy that was doing the same thing and killing him for it.

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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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66 Books, you think those writers sat down together for tea and wrote?
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Yes, the original bible was a collection of many books that were voted on to become the one book. Many books didn't make the cut for political/control reasons.
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An early draft of the Bible has been discovered at the University of Cambridge in the UK that has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.

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66 Books, you think those writers sat down together for tea and wrote?
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Yes, the original bible was a collection of many books that were voted on to become the one book. Many books didn't make the cut for political/control reasons.
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Nice summary, not my question, yet you answer yes? Bizzaroville?

Here's a clue informed one, the books span thousands of years.
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Fiction or non-fiction when it was written is immaterial. It could have been written yesterday and be true, or written the supposed day after christ died and be fiction. When is someone going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. What would the christians and all the religions do with all their time if all was true and everyone converted. You chirstains need to face facts....you have no purpose with out the "heathens". This like cancer won't be fixed....no money in it, and the people at the top don't want you to know the truth, the money will stop.
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Fiction or non-fiction when it was written is immaterial. It could have been written yesterday and be true, or written the supposed day after christ died and be fiction. When is someone going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. What would the christians and all the religions do with all their time if all was true and everyone converted. You chirstains need to face facts....you have no purpose with out the "heathens". This like cancer won't be fixed....no money in it, and the people at the top don't want you to know the truth, the money will stop.
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