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Notes from an "Alternate Universe": How to Create Your Reality Consciously

 
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If you can conceive it and believe it you can achieve it. I get it, prayer. Also, quantum physics. There, did it for you in one sentence. The second and third sentences were for explanation.

A Little History

A little more than 9 years ago we began posting to this website information about the nature of reality. 20,000+ replies and 1.3+ million views later (with nearly 100,000 downloads of our free book), we have reached the final thread that ties together everything that has so far only been discussed in bits and pieces.

The entity that I have been in contact with over the years, Chaol, has been guiding me to see the essence of reality itself. It sounded completely ridiculous to me at first until I began to see that a lot of what was being said had some value. These threads were not created to help others or to ‘send a message’ to humanity or anything like that, but were created for Chaol’s own benefit. It just so happens that communicating in this way is how Chaol can more effectively alter reality. (This will be explained more later.)

There is much that we’ve left out of our responses over the years. Simply put, I had not advanced enough to interpret the information more accurately. I suppose this was for the best, as the information contained here can, quite literally, create and destroy entire worlds.

How is this all possible?

Basic Understandings

As we approach the first cycle of this material (year 10, from September, 2019) we are folding everything into a basic understanding of reality. You can use it not only to understand who and what you are, but to change your reality however you wish.

Chaol is from an alternate Earth that ‘separated’ from our Earth around the time of the Industrial Revolution. (The basic idea of the ‘Mandala Effect’ is a sense of alternate Earths existing, though nearly all of the ‘proof’ of this effect is just false memories.) This was also when Marxism was born, and something that we are coming full circle with today and will be discussed more later.

Though Chaos has said the material is just entertainment and shouldn’t be taken seriously, it makes sense when considering the material isn’t for you at all. Chaos doesn’t want anyone to believe what has been said because there is no ‘message’ here, only reality manipulation for the purpose of reuniting the ‘two Earths’.

Some things we’ve picked up:

* Your dreams are physical and real.
* You are not a human, but a perspective.
* You cannot sense or know of something that is beyond your own perspective.
* You perceive that which takes the least amount of energy (or, interactions) to perceive.
* You cannot perceive of things directly but the relationship between things.
* You can’t perceive of anything in its entirety because you cannot perceive directly. The universe, and everything in it, therefore appears to go on forever in all directions of space and time.
* Truth is independent of perspective.

Chaol’s Earth (which I will refer to as Earth-2) has developed quite differently over the years than our own. Although it experienced some Marxism and communism, the discovery of “neuronics” has changed Earth-2 almost entirely. Think of neuronics as an operating system for your brain. Simply put, it’s a way to direct the ‘firing’ of your brain neurons and perceive the reality that you want. This is done not by changing the brain cells themselves but by altering the relationships between the cells that affect perception.

As you cannot perceive of anything beyond your own perspective, your entire reality is here. You might think you’re looking at the sun that is millions of miles away but, in reality, it’s as intimately close as your own perspective.

From their understanding of neuronics, Chaol and her business partner, Metis, have been manipulating reality without limitations of time and space. Although they began with the same intentions soon after they ‘arrived’, they parted ways due to ideological differences.

Metis believes that these and other Earths can be ‘reunified’ in a kind of singularity by imposing Marxist ideals across all Earths. Most major tech companies are actually operating under Marxism and also have founders who are working with governments towards a technological singularity where human production can be controlled directly. (Think of the role that social media has played in the social justice warrior and cultural marxism phenomena.)

Chaol wants to re-unify Earth-2 with just this Earth, for her own personal reasons. She believes that this can happen more through capitalism and its efforts, which was the force behind the Industrial Revolution. She has seen how wonderfully capitalism can be implemented on Earth-2 and is attempting to do the same here.

Communism and capitalism are, by themselves, irrelevant as far as re-unifying entire worlds. What matters more for their purposes are the ways that humanity has interacted with either. These relationships form massive ‘nexus points’ of reality that make it much easier to bridge worlds, and is something we will talk more about later.

Metis went on to implement some ideas from Earth-2 into this one. Bitcoin was his first implementation. He is currently working with several governments and corporate entities on other implementations, though we are not really sure what. Bitcoin is an implementation of the pervasive blockchain technology in their world, but is being implemented by governments and conglomerates in a way that is used to enforce Marxist controls over society in this one.

Although Marxism is just one of the many aspects of a religious war that has been going on for millennia, you could say that we have been in ‘Armageddon’ for a number of years. The religious war is fought over a very basic question: who has the truth about reality itself? (Though it’s unfortunate that this Earth has yet to discover that truth is beyond perspective.)

Chaol and I have been working on implementing blockchain technology with tokenization via Ethereum and similar platforms. Tokenization makes all the difference in the world, as it is more about an individual’s authority over any kind of distributed ledger, or blockchain. Ultimately, this should lead us to a deep understanding of our own reality which, as we will see, is made up of a natural blockchain that is inherent in the universe.

Chaol has been working on the Ethereum side (through me) and Metis has been working on the Bitcoin side (through others). Blockchain, by itself, is just an evolution of collective control and an extension of politics. But with tokenization we can amplify the power of the individual to be able to do just about anything.

Let’s find out what blockchain technology has to do with your reality.

The Matrix of Your Reality

The founder of neuronics on Earh-2 discovered that there are four letters in the language of perspective, just as there are four letters in DNA, the basic language of organic life forms (which, naturally, is based on the language of perspective).

He discovered that the first six numbers of the Fibonacci sequence and the first six (revised) prime numbers sprang from the same source. Not only that, both sets of numbers represented the two fundamental forces of the universe. Further, these fundamental forces were meta-physics: they were the forces of perspective itself.

Order (Prime number sequence): 0 1 1 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19…
Chaos (Fibonacci sequence): 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55…

0 represents ‘the Void’ that is beyond perspective
1 represents Structure (or, the underlying system of perspective)
1 represents Order (or, the possibility of duplication – Scale)
2 represents Chaos (or, the possibility of expansion – Magnitude)
3 represents Interaction (or, the interaction of possibilities)
5 represents the reality of your perspective

By discovering how perspective came about, he discovered the basic formula for reality. Reality is the harmony that results from the opposing forces of Order and Chaos in a system of perspective.

Although there are 66 ‘neuronicons’ to express the different states of the four codes of perspective (Structure, Order, Chaos, and Interaction), we will begin to discover how to manipulate perspective by breaking the understanding down into a few lessons.

Lesson 1
Label things in your reality (people, places, processes, etc) as being either Order or Chaos.

Lesson 2
Discover the inherent forces of Order and Chaos that work together in everything.

Lesson 3
Visualize the forces of Order and Chaos at work around you.

Lesson 4
Experience how the forces of Order and Chaos morph over time into subforces

Lesson 5
Learn how to manipulate reality by creating coded ‘instructions’ for your reality.

Each neuronicon is made up of an input and an output. An input connects each neuronicon to the last, and the output connects it with the next. This forms a blockchain of perspective that encodes every aspect of your reality.

Think of the code used in the movie, The Matrix.

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...and remember that when you are looking at something you are not actually perceiving it directly. You are perceiving the relationships that exist (or seem to exist) between things. You might think you are seeing a table but the table isn’t actually there. You’re perceiving the relationships between neuronicons. You interpret this relationship as a table, or whatever.

[Note: if you’re familiar with blockchain technology, when you first perceive of something it becomes an 'unvalidated perception’. From all of the unvalidated perceptions that make up your reality you then, subconsciously, determine which perceptions have value. You do this by interacting with your perceptions. The more you interact, the more you build consensus with what you’re interacting with for your perspective. The higher the ratio of perceptions to interactions, the greater the weight of the consensus. A ‘block’ is a group of perceptions that have been validated through extensive interactions. These perceptions are now a part of your reality. The ‘reward’ here is simply feedback. The depth of the reality (the 'hashing power') increases from the ease of duplication (scale, the Order element) or the ease of expansion (magnitude, or the Chaos element). Leveraging scale or magnitude will drive more efficient interactions.]

Your perspective is the source of these codes and is the source of your entire reality. By making use of the codes directly you are increasing the ease of which you are able to perceive something, thus forming a consensus in your perspective and altering your reality.

To get an idea of how you can use the codes to manipulate your reality, imagine focusing on sadness for a few hours. Further, imagine how your perspective might change because of your focus. It would seem that your entire life is now suddenly more sad, more sad things are happening, etc. But nothing has really changed except for your perspective. More specifically, you’ve altered the relationships between things and have thus changed your reality.

You can do the same with neuronicons, but in a much more precise manner. 8 neuronicons in a chain, for example, when used properly can change 200 trillion bits of information in your perspective.

But first, we’ll start with Lesson 1 and label things as being either Order or Chaos.

Order is relationships. It is that which can easily be duplicated. It is time, the masculine, past, contraction, muscle, magnetic, cold, density, attraction, destruction, etc.

Chaos is interaction. It is that which can easily be expanded. It is space, the feminine. Future, expansion, strength, electric heat, volume, repulsion, creation, etc.

Take a random object or thing in your reality and consider if its nature is more on the Order side or the Chaos side. Make a practice of doing this with more things everyday until you get the hang of it.

Feel free to ask any questions.
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On that plate, there are two spots marked 1914, and in that upper room 1979. Interesting.
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Yes, these are the two most important dates in Central Banking. Sounds weird, I know. But it's directly related to the structure of physical reality via the tokenization of physical labour (i.e., centralized tokenization of physical interactions).
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Thanks, a lot to ponder about. I can agree with you on the concept of something being materialized and already having its entire narrative.

Also the possibility that the “idea” of something having more desire than the actual thing makes sense to me.

Very curious abut the pleasant surprise, of course!
What is weird is that the word “seashell” was mentioned a few times on the day I read your post, whereas I normally don’t even think about those.
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Ahh...the wonderful world of relationships. Most would think what relevance a "seashell" has. But with relationships it could be anything relative.

One might get a subconsciously impetus to "see shelf" or talk more to "C. Michelle". It's up to interpretation, in a way.
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Perceptive changes because something is done, at least there is a change in thinking.
 Quoting: Eductor

Let's imagine that every possibility within perspective exists at once, simultaneously.

Further, that because it exists all at once nothing is being done nor is anything changing.

Rather than change, you would be more like a being that is experiencing the logical narrative from one possibility to the next.

When your perspective 'changes' nothing is really changing because the 'old' perspective continues to exist when you're experiencing something else.

If we consider than thinking is a sense (of something that all ready exists) rather than something that can be done, then what we're doing is sensing the depth of the perspective.

Because it cannot be sensed all-at-once, the sensing seems to take up time and space.
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So is the main clock everyone uses in the house the 'seat of time'? Or is it a calendar used to plan activities?
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Although time is everywhere space is, the 'seat of time' in a house could be a particular room or the way the sofa is placed. A clock would be more of a reference to our conception of time and has no bearing on where the 'seat' of time is.

It is often in the kitchen or family area, however. In a large office I think it can usually be found in the mailroom or similar area.
 Quoting: KEKui


So it's somewhat where an intersection of thought takes place?
 Quoting: Eductor

You can think of it like the place where many of the relationships are formed and take shape (as time is about relationships) in the reality.

In a company this might be the mailroom because it is where chaos (lots of mail, much of it 'noise') is broken down into information and delivered in an organized fashion.

The same process happens in a house or other kind of place.
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Can someone do maths without using technology?
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Sure but once you start using technology, you lose that skill.
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Can someone add "1" and "1" together without using technology?
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Some can :)
 Quoting: Eductor

If addition is itself a technology, how would it be possible?
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Would people from outside the building have been able to get free food and free energy, also?

Or would they first have to buy into the building in order to receive it as a benefit?
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I hadn't gotten that far with it. I would have liked for us to continue so that we could address issues like this. I suppose it's the same as how we ended up living in the building to begin with, it seemed everyone moved in that wanted to live there.

If we had produced surplus, then we could give the resources away or charge for it.
 Quoting: Eductor


It became so complex (after about day 3 I think) that it got away from us and took on a life of its own.

If you met someone there and feel in love, perhaps you'd be looking for a way back, too :)
 Quoting: KEKui

I didn't fall in love there but I did try to stay :) Did you fall in love there? teehee!

Did it die out because of the complexity?
 Quoting: Eductor

Quite the contrary. The reality we produced is thriving.

It became harder for us to perceive because of the complexity. (Rather, the complexities that we were aware of were increasing.) Eventually, we would have to choose between focusing on one or the other.
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You've changed it from things that don't really affect you to things that don't really phase you :) teehee

It is easy to get caught up in the detail of something and forget that the fundamental thing is that it's possible.

This reminds me of when people in the UK talk about receiving a visit from the police for something they posted on Facebook or Twitter but focus on what they had posted rather than how it is possible.

Laws about speed limits are possible, right? Might this possibility affect your perspective somehow?
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Yes, I drive under the speed limit. I often have to pull over and let others pass by me. I like to look around unless I'm on a highway.
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It's easy to focus on the details but the possibility of such laws existing in your perspective is beyond he details.

That laws about speed limits are possible changes the nature of your entire perspective, whether or not you have ever driven in your life.

Let's change a few words...

Laws about thermodynamics are possible. Because they exist, my entire reality is different than it would be if they did not exist. Even though I have never cooked before and I live in a cold climate.

Perhaps not the best example but I hope it illustrates something :)
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I don't know of anyone in politics that I like, not even Trump. I will say I heard Dwayne Johnson is considering running and I like him. However, I have no idea of his political stance.
 Quoting: Eductor

I was more asking about anyone at all you like, that others might know about.

But the guy you're talking about impregnated my friend and completely ignored her after that. Real stud. But he has a good public persona.
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Well, isn't Dwayne someone others might know about? Thanks for the intel. He has the persona of a family man which I like. Too bad so many can't just be who they are.

Did your friend consider being involved in the MeToo movement?
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Would you say that a person's public persona is shaped in large part by media? Most of us don't know people like Trump or Will Rogers personally so the image we have of them comes to us indirectly, from information mediators.

So we could say that, rather than liking Dwayne Johnson, for example, we like the persona that the media has presented to us. This probably isn't because he asked them to present him in a certain way, but because presenting him in that way is more profitable than not.

And because we don't actually know someone we think we don't like personally, we could say we don't like the persona that the media has presented to us. And perhaps they are presenting that person in a way that is most profitable to them and their interests.

Did your friend consider being involved in the MeToo movement?
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Supposedly, it was all staged and those that had real stories weren't 'invited' to participate.

I guess they've found other ways to score political points.
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He plays the game very well. I think he has surprised a lot of people and esp the vipers. Imo, he changes course when he sees he is getting hemmed in. If it weren't for the rhetoric and the fact that I think he wants to be a dictator, I would be ok with him.
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Is there a President you particularly admire?
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Not really, lol! If I have to pick, I would say Jimmy Carter is the best of all of them.
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The former President who wants the current President nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize? :)
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This reminds me of when people in the UK talk about receiving a visit from the police for something they posted on Facebook or Twitter but focus on what they had posted rather than how it is possible.
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Curious why you brought up this example? Is this something that is common in the UK?
 Quoting: Eductor

Quite!

One of the few places where talking about a crime can carry a jail sentence, and one that is longer than the crime itself.
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Sorry bro.

In my reality, the multiple Earths across the multiple universes will never merge.

This all sounds like a way too elaborate scheme for one group to control all of the earths in a multiple universes. It's bad enough these elitist fuckers want to control the entire planet, now they want to control all the multi universe earths.

If there are multiple Earths across multiple universes then there is a pretty good reason for that. I'm sure God knows what it's doing more than younguys.

Fuck off.
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Guy walks into a bar.

He sits on a stool and looks at all the beers on the shelves for a while before he decides what to order.

After looking at all twelve shelves of 30 beers each he turns to the bartender and says, "Fuck off!"

The bartender just laughs.

The guy sticks around for a while to see if the bartender has anything to say to him, then leaves. He then comes back a while later to see if the bartender or anyone else noticed him. Anyone.

Will he come back a third time?
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Perceptive changes because something is done, at least there is a change in thinking.
 Quoting: Eductor

Let's imagine that every possibility within perspective exists at once, simultaneously.

Further, that because it exists all at once nothing is being done nor is anything changing.

Rather than change, you would be more like a being that is experiencing the logical narrative from one possibility to the next.

When your perspective 'changes' nothing is really changing because the 'old' perspective continues to exist when you're experiencing something else.
 Quoting: KEKui


Something is changing because we are experiencing or seeing something else.

If we consider than thinking is a sense (of something that all ready exists) rather than something that can be done, then what we're doing is sensing the depth of the perspective.

Because it cannot be sensed all-at-once, the sensing seems to take up time and space.
 Quoting: KEKui




Sensing is something happening. Yes?
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Sure but once you start using technology, you lose that skill.
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Can someone add "1" and "1" together without using technology?
 Quoting: KEKui

Some can :)
 Quoting: Eductor

If addition is itself a technology, how would it be possible?
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Ah, so brain function is a technology?
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Would people from outside the building have been able to get free food and free energy, also?

Or would they first have to buy into the building in order to receive it as a benefit?
 Quoting: KEKui


I hadn't gotten that far with it. I would have liked for us to continue so that we could address issues like this. I suppose it's the same as how we ended up living in the building to begin with, it seemed everyone moved in that wanted to live there.

If we had produced surplus, then we could give the resources away or charge for it.
 Quoting: Eductor


It became so complex (after about day 3 I think) that it got away from us and took on a life of its own.

If you met someone there and feel in love, perhaps you'd be looking for a way back, too :)
 Quoting: KEKui

I didn't fall in love there but I did try to stay :) Did you fall in love there? teehee!

Did it die out because of the complexity?
 Quoting: Eductor

Quite the contrary. The reality we produced is thriving.

It became harder for us to perceive because of the complexity. (Rather, the complexities that we were aware of were increasing.) Eventually, we would have to choose between focusing on one or the other.
 Quoting: KEKui




Ohh, ok. I remember my last experience there. We talked about it in the threads.

We came to the conclusion that we were stunned by what we saw but unable to process it because it was beyond our understanding.
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You've changed it from things that don't really affect you to things that don't really phase you :) teehee

It is easy to get caught up in the detail of something and forget that the fundamental thing is that it's possible.

This reminds me of when people in the UK talk about receiving a visit from the police for something they posted on Facebook or Twitter but focus on what they had posted rather than how it is possible.

Laws about speed limits are possible, right? Might this possibility affect your perspective somehow?
 Quoting: KEKui



Yes, I drive under the speed limit. I often have to pull over and let others pass by me. I like to look around unless I'm on a highway.
 Quoting: Eductor

It's easy to focus on the details but the possibility of such laws existing in your perspective is beyond he details.

That laws about speed limits are possible changes the nature of your entire perspective, whether or not you have ever driven in your life.

Let's change a few words...

Laws about thermodynamics are possible. Because they exist, my entire reality is different than it would be if they did not exist. Even though I have never cooked before and I live in a cold climate.

Perhaps not the best example but I hope it illustrates something :)
 Quoting: KEKui




I get what you're driving at. (get the pun, lol)

I know I ask you this a lot but tell me about the 'laws' of thermodynamics. Not what they are but how they come about. I'm still trying to wiggle my way into believing there are forces or laws that operate according to something outside myself.
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Would you say that a person's public persona is shaped in large part by media? Most of us don't know people like Trump or Will Rogers personally so the image we have of them comes to us indirectly, from information mediators.

So we could say that, rather than liking Dwayne Johnson, for example, we like the persona that the media has presented to us. This probably isn't because he asked them to present him in a certain way, but because presenting him in that way is more profitable than not.

And because we don't actually know someone we think we don't like personally, we could say we don't like the persona that the media has presented to us. And perhaps they are presenting that person in a way that is most profitable to them and their interests.
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Could be in a lot of cases media is responsible. But also, many people do things to protect a persona as well. I've seen this happen within my circle of friends, especially in college.

I lived in Okla City when the bombing happened. People I personally knew, changed their whole lives to pursue what really happened because there were so many discrepancies about the story we were being told. Some of these people became somewhat famous (at least to the locals) and they were represented by the media truthfully.


Did your friend consider being involved in the MeToo movement?
 Quoting: Eductor


Supposedly, it was all staged and those that had real stories weren't 'invited' to participate.

I guess they've found other ways to score political points.
 Quoting: KEKui



What do you feel would have happened if she would have used social media to join in without an invitation?

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So is the main clock everyone uses in the house the 'seat of time'? Or is it a calendar used to plan activities?
 Quoting: Eductor


Although time is everywhere space is, the 'seat of time' in a house could be a particular room or the way the sofa is placed. A clock would be more of a reference to our conception of time and has no bearing on where the 'seat' of time is.

It is often in the kitchen or family area, however. In a large office I think it can usually be found in the mailroom or similar area.
 Quoting: KEKui


So it's somewhat where an intersection of thought takes place?
 Quoting: Eductor

You can think of it like the place where many of the relationships are formed and take shape (as time is about relationships) in the reality.

In a company this might be the mailroom because it is where chaos (lots of mail, much of it 'noise') is broken down into information and delivered in an organized fashion.

The same process happens in a house or other kind of place.
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Thanks!

Btw, back to my question that I always bug you with, who forms the relationships? And, how are they formed? :) Something happens to perspective. I'm trying to nail that something down.
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He plays the game very well. I think he has surprised a lot of people and esp the vipers. Imo, he changes course when he sees he is getting hemmed in. If it weren't for the rhetoric and the fact that I think he wants to be a dictator, I would be ok with him.
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Is there a President you particularly admire?
 Quoting: KEKui

Not really, lol! If I have to pick, I would say Jimmy Carter is the best of all of them.
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The former President who wants the current President nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize? :)
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I thought he said Trump has a chance at it. It still doesn't mean I like Trump's rhetoric, btw, lol!

OK, I checked and here is what Carter says and notice how honest he is:

President Jimmy Carter says "under Trump, democracy is threatened and moral leadership is lacking. But if North Korea negotiations go well, a Nobel peace prize could be in Trump's future."

For all we know, he hoped to influence Trump to do good. I'll post the link but discreetly. I often get locked out if I post links.

[link to www.politico (secure)]

.com/magazine/

story/2018/05/22/jimmy-carter-podcast

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This reminds me of when people in the UK talk about receiving a visit from the police for something they posted on Facebook or Twitter but focus on what they had posted rather than how it is possible.
 Quoting: KEKui

Curious why you brought up this example? Is this something that is common in the UK?
 Quoting: Eductor

Quite!

One of the few places where talking about a crime can carry a jail sentence, and one that is longer than the crime itself.
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Wow! I didn't know this. It's crazy.
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Perceptive changes because something is done, at least there is a change in thinking.
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Let's imagine that every possibility within perspective exists at once, simultaneously.

Further, that because it exists all at once nothing is being done nor is anything changing.

Rather than change, you would be more like a being that is experiencing the logical narrative from one possibility to the next.

When your perspective 'changes' nothing is really changing because the 'old' perspective continues to exist when you're experiencing something else.
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Something is changing because we are experiencing or seeing something else.

If we consider than thinking is a sense (of something that all ready exists) rather than something that can be done, then what we're doing is sensing the depth of the perspective.

Because it cannot be sensed all-at-once, the sensing seems to take up time and space.
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Sensing is something happening. Yes?
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Imagine this...

You are perceiving everything-at-once,
but unable to perceive it in one perception,
so you seem to perceive it over many perceptions in time and space

Nothing is happening because it is all at once. (Happening implies a matter over time.)

Further, you perceive the relationship between things rather than the things themselves. (Because the 'things' are actually representations.)

Nothing is happening because there is nothing to happen with. It is the sense of something happening over space and time. (But the sense is not 'true')
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...

Can someone add "1" and "1" together without using technology?
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Some can :)
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If addition is itself a technology, how would it be possible?
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Ah, so brain function is a technology?
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Addition is a tool that we have invented. Someone would not be able to add "1" and "1" together without using technology.
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Would people from outside the building have been able to get free food and free energy, also?

Or would they first have to buy into the building in order to receive it as a benefit?
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I hadn't gotten that far with it. I would have liked for us to continue so that we could address issues like this. I suppose it's the same as how we ended up living in the building to begin with, it seemed everyone moved in that wanted to live there.

If we had produced surplus, then we could give the resources away or charge for it.
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It became so complex (after about day 3 I think) that it got away from us and took on a life of its own.

If you met someone there and feel in love, perhaps you'd be looking for a way back, too :)
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I didn't fall in love there but I did try to stay :) Did you fall in love there? teehee!

Did it die out because of the complexity?
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Quite the contrary. The reality we produced is thriving.

It became harder for us to perceive because of the complexity. (Rather, the complexities that we were aware of were increasing.) Eventually, we would have to choose between focusing on one or the other.
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Ohh, ok. I remember my last experience there. We talked about it in the threads.

We came to the conclusion that we were stunned by what we saw but unable to process it because it was beyond our understanding.
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Such worlds are easy to produce ("create"). We're doing it in this threads.

But you can do the same and build a bridge, as well.
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I get what you're driving at. (get the pun, lol)

I know I ask you this a lot but tell me about the 'laws' of thermodynamics. Not what they are but how they come about.
 Quoting: Eductor

The laws of thermodynamics follow the laws of perspective, because they exist only in perspective and are dependent on them for their existence.

I'm still trying to wiggle my way into believing there are forces or laws that operate according to something outside myself.
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There's nothing outside your perspective.
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Would you say that a person's public persona is shaped in large part by media? Most of us don't know people like Trump or Will Rogers personally so the image we have of them comes to us indirectly, from information mediators.

So we could say that, rather than liking Dwayne Johnson, for example, we like the persona that the media has presented to us. This probably isn't because he asked them to present him in a certain way, but because presenting him in that way is more profitable than not.

And because we don't actually know someone we think we don't like personally, we could say we don't like the persona that the media has presented to us. And perhaps they are presenting that person in a way that is most profitable to them and their interests.
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Could be in a lot of cases media is responsible.
 Quoting: Eductor

We use media as a shortcut, to conserve energy within our perspective.

The media is in our minds, literally.

Did your friend consider being involved in the MeToo movement?
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Supposedly, it was all staged and those that had real stories weren't 'invited' to participate.

I guess they've found other ways to score political points.
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What do you feel would have happened if she would have used social media to join in without an invitation?
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There were many that did, I think. They were simply ignored. In most cases nothing needs to be done because attention can be so easily manipulated.
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Imagine this...

You are perceiving everything-at-once,
but unable to perceive it in one perception,
so you seem to perceive it over many perceptions in time and space
 Quoting: KEKui


A choice or a focus is being made here. Something is making order out of chaos.

Nothing is happening because it is all at once. (Happening implies a matter over time.)
 Quoting: KEKui


What is all at once? Chaos and Order?

Further, you perceive the relationship between things rather than the things themselves. (Because the 'things' are actually representations.)

Nothing is happening because there is nothing to happen with. It is the sense of something happening over space and time. (But the sense is not 'true')
 Quoting: KEKui


Here we go again, you say "you perceive" and this is what I don't understand. Who is you and what is perceived and how are both not happening?
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Btw, back to my question that I always bug you with, who forms the relationships? And, how are they formed? :) Something happens to perspective. I'm trying to nail that something down.
 Quoting: Eductor

Perspective forms the relationship automatically.

Nothing happens to perspective on the purest level. But I think I know what you mean.

The act of perceiving is the same as the formation.

I don't know how I could illustrate this but I suppose it would be like if everything you said became physically real simultaneously with you saying it.

With perspective, that which we use to perceive is the same as what we perceive.
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I thought he said Trump has a chance at it. It still doesn't mean I like Trump's rhetoric, btw, lol!

OK, I checked and here is what Carter says and notice how honest he is:

President Jimmy Carter says "under Trump, democracy is threatened and moral leadership is lacking. But if North Korea negotiations go well, a Nobel peace prize could be in Trump's future."

For all we know, he hoped to influence Trump to do good. I'll post the link but discreetly. I often get locked out if I post links.

[link to www.politico (secure)]

.com/magazine/

story/2018/05/22/jimmy-carter-podcast

-interview-trump-religion-2018-218412
 Quoting: Eductor


He mentioned, "...I think he certainly ought to be considered for the Nobel Peace Prize", which carries a different meaning than your quote.

That's the power of the media :)

Would you consider it normal for yourself to use the term "rhetoric" when talking about the way someone talks? If not, why use the term?

If you think about your favorite physical object, would you say that you like the person that made it (or the CEO of the company that made it)? Or perhaps you might think that it is irrelevant whether or not you like the person.
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This reminds me of when people in the UK talk about receiving a visit from the police for something they posted on Facebook or Twitter but focus on what they had posted rather than how it is possible.
 Quoting: KEKui

Curious why you brought up this example? Is this something that is common in the UK?
 Quoting: Eductor

Quite!

One of the few places where talking about a crime can carry a jail sentence, and one that is longer than the crime itself.
 Quoting: KEKui

Wow! I didn't know this. It's crazy.
 Quoting: Eductor


It's what the US would have if it were not for the rhetoric (wisdom) of a certain devil-worshipper.
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