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Notes from an "Alternate Universe": Escaping the Matrix

 
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Interesting enough to post. Start at 4:47

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Thanks. I learned a couple of things and it connected some dots for me. This group has several threads of similar information: Thread: Ancient civilizations and archeology - remote viewing
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Pretty sure the surprise is there. I'll have to investigate a bit further into the possibilities but I'll keep you posted.
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Knowing Chaol, she'd want to keep you guessing so I guess it's a purrfect match!
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How do you define yourself?
 Quoting: Eductor

Why would I do that?

I'm not sure what you mean.
 Quoting: kekui

How do you see yourself? Does this clarify what I mean?
 Quoting: Eductor

Usually, as a person like any other. When I find myself 'floating' I try to remind myself of this. For me, it's best to remain relative with the reality I've had.
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It's only in regards to if he manages North Korea. Notice that now he doesn't need them any more, nothing is going on between them. Anyway, I agree, the media is powerful. It seems everywhere we look, we are being programmed.
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May I ask, what do you mean by the bolded, above?
 Quoting: kekui


Now that he doesn't need N.K. and Russia, he doesn't attempt to work with them any more.
 Quoting: Eductor

Curious.. why do you presume that he needed either previously?

Also, why do you believe that his administration isn't working with either?

If you don't normally use the term, could you say that you began to use it when you heard the media use it to reference the way he speaks?

Could the word "rhetoric" be a talking point?
 Quoting: kekui


Yes, but now that we have been talking about it and I see you using the word personna, I would probably use that because I know it is a word you use so it would communicate what I'm trying to say.
 Quoting: Eductor

If you agree that "rhetoric" is a media talking point, how do you feel about adopting mainstream media talking points?

Could there be other talking points you've adopted that, when repeated over and over countless times, may have caused you to think a certain way about something or someone?

If your terms are not your own with regards to this person, is it possible that there may be some other terms you use for him that are not yours, either?

So, how much do you like the person (or CEO of the company) that made your favorite physical thing?
 Quoting: kekui


From what I've read about him, I like him a lot.
 Quoting: Eductor

Could you say that it's important for you to like the CEO of a company whose products you also like?
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I still get hung up in how data is processed and turned into perception. But, I like these bullet points for some reason.
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Perhaps it's because you're thinking it must be done over time?
 Quoting: kekui


Yes, I am seeing it this way.
 Quoting: Eductor

How long does it take for a person to be a human being?

But it also happened as soon as you perceived it because the "static" makes sense to you, also. This process happens along with perception because it is perception.

Perception isn't something that someone does. Perception and being are the same thing.
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Are you able to notice this within yourself?
 Quoting: Eductor

You mean, notice within myself that perception and being are the same thing?

It's all in how someone defines either, I think. For me, a person is the same as a human being, as are perception and being.

How you define things is the most important aspect of how you experience reality. By defining, we form relationships.
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A conscious Void would be called perspective.

The Void is nowhere. (And is not in our minds.)
 Quoting: kekui


Oh boy! I'm lost and have to get off the internet. How convenient, lol! If the Void is nowhere, how come so many have experienced it?
 Quoting: Eductor

Wouldn't perceiving that which cannot be perceived be a paradox?

For me, my experience of 'the Void' was me hanging in space with the feeling of an immense nothing all around. But that I felt something tells me it wasn't really the Void, just a representation of it (deep space).
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Is there anything in your perspective you have found challenging to change?
 Quoting: Eductor

Regarding beliefs? Personally, I don't seek to change any. My beliefs have changed over the years, but most of that happened naturally I think.

I suppose you could say that I usually 'accept' my perspective at the time.

The last thing I can remember that I wanted to change was my living situation when I was a teenager. After many years of hating it, I found that by learning to love it, instead, it changed very easily. Within a couple of weeks, I think.
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I don't see karma and lots of other things, as I've minimized the presentation of the page/forum down to its very basics. But I'll take your word for it :)
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My favorite of yours: Get off drugs and Chaol will go away.

LOL!
 Quoting: Eductor

I almost want to recalibrate my settings! ooooh :)
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Interesting enough to post. Start at 4:47

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: kekui

Thanks. I learned a couple of things and it connected some dots for me. This group has several threads of similar information: Thread: Ancient civilizations and archeology - remote viewing
 Quoting: Eductor

I've seen a few commentators and authors who explain things well or are articulate, but their logic makes much of what they're saying fall apart.

For me, with only a 7th grade education to explain the concepts I'm getting it's quite frustrating. In my mind it's perfectly logical and articulate... until I try to explain it. It seems all ways on the tip of my tongue.
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Interesting post by forum owner Trinity. He even uses the term “folded” in sort of the same way.
Thread: They Are Slowly Bringing Multidimensional Reality To The Forefront Of Human Consciousness...
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Pretty sure the surprise is there. I'll have to investigate a bit further into the possibilities but I'll keep you posted.
 Quoting: tuuur

Knowing Chaol, she'd want to keep you guessing so I guess it's a purrfect match!
 Quoting: kekui




Whoa, Tuuur, there's a clue here. Do you want a kitty cat?
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How do you define yourself?
 Quoting: Eductor

Why would I do that?

I'm not sure what you mean.
 Quoting: kekui

How do you see yourself? Does this clarify what I mean?
 Quoting: Eductor

Usually, as a person like any other. When I find myself 'floating' I try to remind myself of this. For me, it's best to remain relative with the reality I've had.
 Quoting: kekui




Do you find it easy to change realities?
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It's only in regards to if he manages North Korea. Notice that now he doesn't need them any more, nothing is going on between them. Anyway, I agree, the media is powerful. It seems everywhere we look, we are being programmed.
 Quoting: Eductor

May I ask, what do you mean by the bolded, above?
 Quoting: kekui


Now that he doesn't need N.K. and Russia, he doesn't attempt to work with them any more.
 Quoting: Eductor

Curious.. why do you presume that he needed either previously?

Also, why do you believe that his administration isn't working with either?
 Quoting: kekui


At the time, I felt he was using them to help him get elected. Once elected, he seems to be moving on. I imagine his administration is still working with them but his focus has changed.


If you don't normally use the term, could you say that you began to use it when you heard the media use it to reference the way he speaks?
 Quoting: kekui


Yes, it's very possible.

Could the word "rhetoric" be a talking point?
 Quoting: Eductor

Yes.


If you agree that "rhetoric" is a media talking point, how do you feel about adopting mainstream media talking points?
 Quoting: kekui


I don't like it, lol! But thanks for helping me see it.

Could there be other talking points you've adopted that, when repeated over and over countless times, may have caused you to think a certain way about something or someone?
 Quoting: kekui


It's very possible but not in this case. I have never cared for this certain person.

If your terms are not your own with regards to this person, is it possible that there may be some other terms you use for him that are not yours, either?

Yes, it's possible.


So, how much do you like the person (or CEO of the company) that made your favorite physical thing?
 Quoting: kekui


From what I've read about him, I like him a lot.
 Quoting: kekui


Could you say that it's important for you to like the CEO of a company whose products you also like?
 Quoting: kekui



Yes, I like it. But, there are products I have that I don't feel I really have a choice so I'm not as happy about it. If I find a product to replace it, from a company and CEO I like, I change it in a heartbeat. I did that years ago with a company and have remained loyal for over a decade.

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How long does it take for a person to be a human being?
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In an instant?


You mean, notice within myself that perception and being are the same thing?

It's all in how someone defines either, I think. For me, a person is the same as a human being, as are perception and being.

How you define things is the most important aspect of how you experience reality. By defining, we form relationships.
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I hadn't thought about it being the way we form relationships but defining things does seem to be how we experience reality.
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A conscious Void would be called perspective.

The Void is nowhere. (And is not in our minds.)
 Quoting: kekui


Oh boy! I'm lost and have to get off the internet. How convenient, lol! If the Void is nowhere, how come so many have experienced it?
 Quoting: Eductor

Wouldn't perceiving that which cannot be perceived be a paradox?

For me, my experience of 'the Void' was me hanging in space with the feeling of an immense nothing all around. But that I felt something tells me it wasn't really the Void, just a representation of it (deep space).
 Quoting: kekui



So the void you experienced was not The Void. All I know is when I saw the movie Clockwork Orange, the scene where the guy was sent into deep space inside a cube haunted me for years.
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Is there anything in your perspective you have found challenging to change?
 Quoting: Eductor

Regarding beliefs? Personally, I don't seek to change any. My beliefs have changed over the years, but most of that happened naturally I think.

I suppose you could say that I usually 'accept' my perspective at the time.

The last thing I can remember that I wanted to change was my living situation when I was a teenager. After many years of hating it, I found that by learning to love it, instead, it changed very easily. Within a couple of weeks, I think.
 Quoting: kekui




Are you trying to change your perspective by participating in our event?
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I don't see karma and lots of other things, as I've minimized the presentation of the page/forum down to its very basics. But I'll take your word for it :)
 Quoting: kekui


My favorite of yours: Get off drugs and Chaol will go away.

LOL!
 Quoting: Eductor

I almost want to recalibrate my settings! ooooh :)
 Quoting: kekui




LOL! I think you only had a couple of others. That was the best one.
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Interesting enough to post. Start at 4:47

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: kekui

Thanks. I learned a couple of things and it connected some dots for me. This group has several threads of similar information: Thread: Ancient civilizations and archeology - remote viewing
 Quoting: Eductor

I've seen a few commentators and authors who explain things well or are articulate, but their logic makes much of what they're saying fall apart.

For me, with only a 7th grade education to explain the concepts I'm getting it's quite frustrating. In my mind it's perfectly logical and articulate... until I try to explain it. It seems all ways on the tip of my tongue.
 Quoting: kekui



I would never have guessed you only went to the 7th grade. You are articulate here with us.

I'm guessing you mean when trying to explain deeper things you've investigated that you have trouble explaining it.
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Interesting post by forum owner Trinity. He even uses the term “folded” in sort of the same way.
Thread: They Are Slowly Bringing Multidimensional Reality To The Forefront Of Human Consciousness...
 Quoting: tuuur




I think Trinity is a she. I do know that Trinity is also Reverend WooWoo. S/he edited a post one time and it said Trinity when s/he was done. Thanks, I'll check it out.


Ha! I went to read in that link and the next post by StarFlowers is edited by Trinity, lol!

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Pretty sure the surprise is there. I'll have to investigate a bit further into the possibilities but I'll keep you posted.
 Quoting: tuuur

Knowing Chaol, she'd want to keep you guessing so I guess it's a purrfect match!
 Quoting: kekui

Whoa, Tuuur, there's a clue here. Do you want a kitty cat?
 Quoting: Eductor

Such an obvious clue? Nahhh :)
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Do you find it easy to change realities?
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What do you mean by changing realities?
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At the time, I felt he was using them to help him get elected. Once elected, he seems to be moving on. I imagine his administration is still working with them but his focus has changed.
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"Now that he doesn't need N.K. and Russia, he doesn't attempt to work with them any more." was stated as a fact, but seems to only be supported by, "..I felt...", "...he seems...", and "...I imagine...."

It's easy for us to mix terms and meanings, but even more difficult for us to not see how this is often automatically done without us realizing it. This is the magic of the Chaos that we all need to support our reality.

If we think something is true because our emotions tell us it is (but there isn't much in our reality to support it), are there perhaps other things that we think are 'true' that may not be?

I ask these specific questions because it may be one of the missing puzzle pieces. If we define reality based on chaotic functions (such as emotions) some unnecessary blocks may result.
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Chaos is very dark

Dark entities are chaos

yoda
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If you don't normally use the term, could you say that you began to use it when you heard the media use it to reference the way he speaks?
 Quoting: kekui


Yes, it's very possible.

Could the word "rhetoric" be a talking point?
 Quoting: Eductor

Yes.

If you agree that "rhetoric" is a media talking point, how do you feel about adopting mainstream media talking points?
 Quoting: kekui


I don't like it, lol! But thanks for helping me see it.

Could there be other talking points you've adopted that, when repeated over and over countless times, may have caused you to think a certain way about something or someone?
 Quoting: kekui


It's very possible but not in this case. I have never cared for this certain person.

If your terms are not your own with regards to this person, is it possible that there may be some other terms you use for him that are not yours, either?
 Quoting: kekui

Yes, it's possible.
 Quoting: Eductor

If you realized that "rhetoric" is a media talking point that you've parroted without realizing it, could you be holding other beliefs that aren't really your own?

If you say, "It's very possible but not in this case" after saying that you actually did just that in this case (with the term "rhetoric") does it point to a trick of the mind?

If I may illustrate...

"I just ate an apple. It's very possible, but not in this case, that I eat apples"

More importantly, it's easy to dismiss a roadblock or issue or problem if it can be related to something you think you don't like (or do).

For example:

A) I know social media is addictive but all my friends are on it (so therefore I will dismiss the addiction)

B) Some of my beliefs have no basis in reality but I know I don't like this person (so therefore I will ignore that some of my beliefs have no basis in reality)

This isn't about Trump, of course. This is entirely about your reality. It just so happens that this aspect of your perspective is now very real, and very powerful. You can use it to get rid of certain blockages precisely because you think you don't like it. Because this is more of an emotional process it is harder to change, though easier for you to spot the contradictions if you're interested in changing your reality.

What do you think would happen if you began to like Trump not because of Trump, but because he is a part of you?

If you see me praising the "Deep Stink" (Deep State) for their ingenuity, or the 6-6-6 for their cunning tricks, or calling him a devil-worshipper while supporting his efforts at the same time, you might get some idea about what needs to be done.

"Love yourself" isn't really about you personally. It is about your perspective.

But it isn't about emotion at all, but relating all things in your perspective together. The 'good' and the 'bad' are close relatives. Often, we pretend that we don't like things we call bad. In reality, we love them much more than the things we think we don't like.

More easily done if conflicts and contradictions are resolved, as this is just Chaos at work.
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Could you say that it's important for you to like the CEO of a company whose products you also like?
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Yes, I like it.
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Apologies, but I didn't understand what "Yes, I like it." was in response to?

But, there are products I have that I don't feel I really have a choice so I'm not as happy about it. If I find a product to replace it, from a company and CEO I like, I change it in a heartbeat. I did that years ago with a company and have remained loyal for over a decade.
 Quoting: Eductor

Is it possible that this point to a MAJOR roadblock in your reality?
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How long does it take for a person to be a human being?
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In an instant?

 Quoting: Eductor


In that way, time is irrelevant. (An instant implies time has passed.)

So, now you understand how it is possible that data can be processed and turned into perception with no time needed at all.

Time is just a sense that we use to perceive and understand reality.

We can say "data is processed" in order to understand what is, but that isn't really what is happening.

Nothing is happening, but only seems to happen when we perceive it or try to understand it.

A person isn't processed into a human being. A person and a human being are the same thing. No time or space required for the processing. We just see the two things are being different because of our interpretation. We can relate more with people than human beings, though they are the same thing. We don't say that there are three human beings outside, but three people outside.

Data isn't processed into information. Data and information are the same thing.
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I hadn't thought about it being the way we form relationships but defining things does seem to be how we experience reality.
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Now, how do you think that relates to our conversation over the past few days?
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So the void you experienced was not The Void. All I know is when I saw the movie Clockwork Orange, the scene where the guy was sent into deep space inside a cube haunted me for years.
 Quoting: Eductor

A structure would at least provide some sense of security.

Naked hanging out in deep space with nothing but the sense of nothingness all around is rather frightening. I guess that's why we have compelling entertainment in the form of reality.
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Is there anything in your perspective you have found challenging to change?
 Quoting: Eductor

Regarding beliefs? Personally, I don't seek to change any. My beliefs have changed over the years, but most of that happened naturally I think.

I suppose you could say that I usually 'accept' my perspective at the time.

The last thing I can remember that I wanted to change was my living situation when I was a teenager. After many years of hating it, I found that by learning to love it, instead, it changed very easily. Within a couple of weeks, I think.
 Quoting: kekui

Are you trying to change your perspective by participating in our event?
 Quoting: Eductor

No. Watching the 6-6-6 squirm is a source of entertainment, and a tremendous challenge.

Of course if they're gone no one in the 'civilized' world will know what to do next. It would be a tremendous shock and something I'm not sure that many would have the mental and emotional capacity to cope with.

But for now, it keeps me out of the Void ;)
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Interesting enough to post. Start at 4:47

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: kekui

Thanks. I learned a couple of things and it connected some dots for me. This group has several threads of similar information: Thread: Ancient civilizations and archeology - remote viewing
 Quoting: Eductor

I've seen a few commentators and authors who explain things well or are articulate, but their logic makes much of what they're saying fall apart.

For me, with only a 7th grade education to explain the concepts I'm getting it's quite frustrating. In my mind it's perfectly logical and articulate... until I try to explain it. It seems all ways on the tip of my tongue.
 Quoting: kekui

I would never have guessed you only went to the 7th grade. You are articulate here with us.

I'm guessing you mean when trying to explain deeper things you've investigated that you have trouble explaining it.
 Quoting: Eductor

More new words would do the trick,
but I am too lazy to write a new lexicon or dictionary for them :)
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