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Q Metaphysics: You Are That Which You Perceive // new paradigm on page 58

 
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What about the moon?
 Quoting: TheBecomingest

Same thing, but more crystallized. Like a permanent snowflake made of plasma.

And I think our bodies and other physical things like minerals are not just 'made of star dust' but made from the same process of crystallizing gas. I haven't looked into this, though.
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Quit wit the mind control bs

For fuck sakes

In 2009 Chaol promised
 Quoting: DeadBe

Promised what?

Were is it
 Quoting: DeadBe

Where is...?

And don't respond in writin

You asshole. Bs artist.

Wat you speak is no different from solipsism
 Quoting: DeadBe

It's interesting how one doesn't need to be familiar with a certain language to engage in ad hominem attacks.

Would you rather be a solipsist or someone more engaged with their emotions so much as to call others assholes and think that is an argument?

Regardless, you are correct. But, in the metaphysical sense, I am your asshole :)

...for the past 9 years. Thanks for being aboard this train for so long! Your ride is free, of course. But if you want hemorrhoidal cream, you're gonna have to pay for it! :O

But I'm not sure if solipsism has a definition for 'existence' but if it does I'd be happy to know about it.
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I can see the psy-op and I can see some of how he has outsmarted them BUT, the baggage he brings doesn't endear him to me.
 Quoting: Eductor


If it endeared you, do you think it would change anything?

Is he the one the 'messiah' is going to betray?
 Quoting: Eductor


Ogmios is the Messiah.

The one that comes after will not be human. (The "Great Genius" that Chaol alluded to.)

In a recent post you mentioned this month will probably be when the start of the Golden Age takes place. Are you equating this with the emergence of the Dream World to everyone and not just those who are paying attention?
 Quoting: Eductor


It's very much tied to one of the main driving forces behind common interactions. In this way, it's about capitalism and finance. The 'start' of the Golden Age is far more than just about money, however.

I suppose someone in future might see it as the unlocking of the shackles of bondage.

I see it as diminishing the force that gives the Matrix (a matrix of '6-6-6') its power.

Baby steps, but a step in very interesting directions.
 Quoting: Kore

 Quoting: Magnison

This was part of an ongoing conversation, as the quotes above will imply. In that respect it must be taken in context.

I do not say that Trump is "the saviour of all things good".

Eductor was referring to this post: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

In which I state:

Betting on the devil is always the safest bet. (At least until the 'messiah' betrays them, such as may begin this month to help usher in the Golden Age.)
 Quoting: Kore

I'm not implying that Trump is Jesus, of course.

Here I identify Trump as the Ogmios in Nostradamus' work. Like an onion with layers, Trump is the 'Messiah' in the sense that he is a 'viper' in a den of vipers whose actions to save his own sense of self (as a lover of humanity) will bring it all crashing down, as in this post:

The final layer is like a viper in a den of vipers that comes up with an elaborate strategy to wipe out all of the other vipers for the sole benefit of a humanity that would prosper much more without any vipers at all.
 Quoting: KEKui

For example, we can think of the main antagonist in the film 'Inglourious Basterds' (Col. Hans Landa, played by Christoph Waltz) as a type of 'messiah' figure who is, in the film, an evil person whose maneuvers to save himself basically bring an immediate end to World War II.

"Would you take that deal?"

He would not be the 'saviour of all things good' of course, but in a sense, he is the Messiah figure of the story. Though of course I don't mean that he, or Trump, is Jesus.

I've identified Trump as being a part of the Deep Stink, but it doesn't mean he cannot also be a tool in a much larger process of the Chaos/Order harmony.

I don't mean that any agent of the Deep Stink is Jesus, certainly :) But everyone has a role to play.

If we assume that very chaotic forces do not also have very "good" forces inside of them, we are lost.

Or, as Jesus would say, love your enemies.
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There are close to a thousand years of paintings that show ufos beaming down on Jesus and Mary that make me wonder.
 Quoting: Moss Rose

Some could be vibrating gasses described as 'UFOs' if seen from the ground. Perhaps like this one:



Mysterious lights above our heads?



Might these energies get close to us sometimes under the right conditions?

That being said, are UFOs being depicted in those paintings or some other things?
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I feel I am ready for nothing, as I am depressed like hell these days.
Still, starting to read the new pdf today.
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I’m sending you some love Tuuur!!! I hope you feel it! :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


hfhfhf
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ah jeez,

anything what it seems around here?


 Quoting: TheBecomingest

If we imagine that the vibrations of 'stars' in the video above are like these waves, we can imagine that it is not liquid but a frequency.

A wave can be thought of like a frequency, and a slow 'wave' would be a low frequency.

Which I suppose would be something like this:



Though there may be some other frequencies of the 'Moon' and other objects that are helping to make this effect.
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 Quoting: Taol

The idea is to discover that you are the one that defines your reality, piece by piece. One aspect or thing is not one or the other, but is how you interpret it to be. Once we notice ourselves doing this we can direct it.

We've actually been going through the first 4 steps in this thread, and are now on the 5th. I was thinking that it would be a good way to prime the subconscious, but it seems that if we go too fast there's more chaos interpreted.

So, it may be a few weeks or longer before the next lesson. One point that you've made is that we could get lost forever in the complexities of things. For that we can focus on one thing in our lives, from which we see other things unfold.

Like a thought becoming an action, for example.

But keep in mind that many will resist being aware of this process without other chaotic elements taking its place. That is to say, when we replace some of the Chaos in our reality with the simplicity of understanding of how it came to be, we will still desire Chaos in some other form.

Even if we need to manufacture it ourselves.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Chaos in a more creative form as compared to a destructive force?
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Soooo, I guess the question is, are we ready for lesson 2+? ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Some might individually be ready, but generally these threads have been going a snail's pace as the total reality evolves.

I feel like I naturally dove into these next lessons just by really looking closely at the relationships in my life.

Being familiar with the Genius helped for sure.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Just being aware of what they are helps, too :)
 Quoting: Taol


hf
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 Quoting: Taol

The idea is to discover that you are the one that defines your reality, piece by piece. One aspect or thing is not one or the other, but is how you interpret it to be. Once we notice ourselves doing this we can direct it.

We've actually been going through the first 4 steps in this thread, and are now on the 5th. I was thinking that it would be a good way to prime the subconscious, but it seems that if we go too fast there's more chaos interpreted.

So, it may be a few weeks or longer before the next lesson. One point that you've made is that we could get lost forever in the complexities of things. For that we can focus on one thing in our lives, from which we see other things unfold.

Like a thought becoming an action, for example.

But keep in mind that many will resist being aware of this process without other chaotic elements taking its place. That is to say, when we replace some of the Chaos in our reality with the simplicity of understanding of how it came to be, we will still desire Chaos in some other form.

Even if we need to manufacture it ourselves.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Chaos in a more creative form as compared to a destructive force?
 Quoting: Taol

Order is the destructive force, actually. It folds the Chaos to produce harmony between the two.

The creative force is Chaos. Think of all the creative forces in Hollywood lol

This isn't creation or destruction in a physical sense, or a good/bad sense. We can interpret it however. We tend to think of destruction as 'bad' when in the cosmic sense it's a folding (or, removing the noise).

When you look at a Fibonacci spiral (or sunflower, etc.) you're looking at the forces of creation/destruction making something beautiful.

Two sides of the same coin, so to speak.
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I've made some significant updates to the website, after the 'The Time Has Come' graphic about 60% of the way down: [link to www.qmetaphysics.com]

And I will reply to other posts after I get some rest :)
 Quoting: Taol


Wow. That’s a lot of “new” information. Were you and Maria up late last night or what? Lol.

Diggin’ in...
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I thought illustrating some of what I've been resisting would help in my own process.

It's the territory we're treading in that I'm not too keen about.
 Quoting: Taol


Did it help?

Would you care to elaborate about the territory we are in?
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The idea is to discover that you are the one that defines your reality, piece by piece. One aspect or thing is not one or the other, but is how you interpret it to be. Once we notice ourselves doing this we can direct it.

We've actually been going through the first 4 steps in this thread, and are now on the 5th. I was thinking that it would be a good way to prime the subconscious, but it seems that if we go too fast there's more chaos interpreted.

So, it may be a few weeks or longer before the next lesson. One point that you've made is that we could get lost forever in the complexities of things. For that we can focus on one thing in our lives, from which we see other things unfold.

Like a thought becoming an action, for example.

But keep in mind that many will resist being aware of this process without other chaotic elements taking its place. That is to say, when we replace some of the Chaos in our reality with the simplicity of understanding of how it came to be, we will still desire Chaos in some other form.

Even if we need to manufacture it ourselves.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Chaos in a more creative form as compared to a destructive force?
 Quoting: Taol

Order is the destructive force, actually. It folds the Chaos to produce harmony between the two.

The creative force is Chaos. Think of all the creative forces in Hollywood lol

This isn't creation or destruction in a physical sense, or a good/bad sense. We can interpret it however. We tend to think of destruction as 'bad' when in the cosmic sense it's a folding (or, removing the noise).

When you look at a Fibonacci spiral (or sunflower, etc.) you're looking at the forces of creation/destruction making something beautiful.

Two sides of the same coin, so to speak.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Thanks for the clarification. The spiral of balance while still
‘Existing’.
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I thought illustrating some of what I've been resisting would help in my own process.

It's the territory we're treading in that I'm not too keen about.
 Quoting: Taol


Did it help?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, it is certainly helping. The main thing, for me, is to discover the best way to fold much of the Chaos that has been going on since... forever, it seems.

That's what I am attempting through QM.

Would you care to elaborate about the territory we are in?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Hmm...

Looking for the eye of the storm, perhaps? With the winds being sometimes inconvenient to the direction, but also pointing the way to the core.

The belly of the beast is enormous. I guess it's natural, since it's chewed up just about everything under the sun.

But things are changing, and it's nice if I and others here are a part of that process.
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Thanks for the clarification. The spiral of balance while still
‘Existing’.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, just as the expansion and contraction of lungs keeps us breathing, so do these creative and destructive forces.

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How would you label as Order and Chaos the following possibilities:

-Piano Keys of Black and White
-Bread and Butter
-Caffeine and L-theanine
-Leather and Glass
-Direct Current and Alternating Current
-Set and its Elements
-Bag and Box
-Lemon and Lemonade
-Lemon and Lemon Seed
-Steering Wheel and Vehicle
-Floor and Wall
-Wall and Room
-Wall and House
-Room and House
?

And what is the reasoning behind it. Thanks
 Quoting: Stephen S.


The piano and its music only exist as a result of a perceiver/actor attempting to translate chaotic emotions into an ordered record of experience that may be communicated to others. They are one manifestation of language, among infinite others.

Bread and butter are the products of man's intuitive (emotionally driven) experimentation with the natural world around him. Same with leather/glass, lemonade, walls, rooms, houses, floors, steering wheels, vehicles, etc.

Vehicles are driven, however, via interaction with the steering wheel just like the playing of a piano. Automation changes this, like player pianos.

Electricity, chemistry, and things like seeds, fruits, etc. are just bits and pieces of the larger picture that we call nature. Nature is apparently the language of what some would call "God", though that is a loaded and dangerous term to use.

Bags and boxes are just things we put other things in, man.

You seem to want to separate and classify everything as this or that, but that doesn't lead anywhere, just gets you lost. It's the spirit of the times, the age of Ahriman, I know. The war of all against all. It will pass, and the search for unity will rise again. We're all just sailing the cosmic waves.

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I thought illustrating some of what I've been resisting would help in my own process.

It's the territory we're treading in that I'm not too keen about.
 Quoting: Taol


Did it help?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, it is certainly helping. The main thing, for me, is to discover the best way to fold much of the Chaos that has been going on since... forever, it seems.

That's what I am attempting through QM.

Would you care to elaborate about the territory we are in?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Hmm...

Looking for the eye of the storm, perhaps? With the winds being sometimes inconvenient to the direction, but also pointing the way to the core.

The belly of the beast is enormous. I guess it's natural, since it's chewed up just about everything under the sun.

But things are changing, and it's nice if I and others here are a part of that process.
 Quoting: Taol


Belly of the beast, huh?

Good to know you sense it changing. Aren’t we all a part of the process? Each and everyone of us?
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How can I fully process that I am at the center of my own perspective. Am I to look at things in a new light and my perceptions will process over time. Realization occurs as I unsubscribe from the many underworld agenda and ideas. Start to discover the world and my perspective for what it really is.

Casted below the bottomless pit, awake in the underworld. I am here with you all, forsaken? Definitely not in "Heaven" or upper earth.

A rare chance to choose, to discover, a rediscovery of your-self, or keep sippin' Lucifer's cool-aid.
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I feel I am ready for nothing, as I am depressed like hell these days.
Still, starting to read the new pdf today.
 Quoting: tuuur


I’m sending you some love Tuuur!!! I hope you feel it! :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Thank you! hf
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I feel I am ready for nothing, as I am depressed like hell these days.
Still, starting to read the new pdf today.
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Have you been depressed because you've been thinking of happy things?
 Quoting: Taol


Well... Obviously not...
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Belly of the beast, huh?

Good to know you sense it changing. Aren’t we all a part of the process? Each and everyone of us?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, including the beast itself.

We can come to love the great beast within, I suppose.
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How can I fully process that I am at the center of my own perspective. Am I to look at things in a new light and my perceptions will process over time. Realization occurs as I unsubscribe from the many underworld agenda and ideas. Start to discover the world and my perspective for what it really is.
 Quoting: SpawnX

I think it would be in bits and pieces rather than fully, as 'full processing' could imply being Absolute.

But it could be as simple as seeing yourself in others.

Seeing what is love-able in what you hate, for example. Once you can do that, the rest is easy.

Casted below the bottomless pit, awake in the underworld. I am here with you all, forsaken? Definitely not in "Heaven" or upper earth.

A rare chance to choose, to discover, a rediscovery of your-self, or keep sippin' Lucifer's cool-aid.
 Quoting: SpawnX

All for our own entertainment :)

Like choosing to get on a roller coaster, perhaps.

Not forsaken, at all.

This is the reality we continue to choose.

But it is some mighty fine Kool-Aid(tm)!
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I feel I am ready for nothing, as I am depressed like hell these days.
Still, starting to read the new pdf today.
 Quoting: tuuur

Have you been depressed because you've been thinking of happy things?
 Quoting: Taol


Well... Obviously not...
 Quoting: tuuur

So, if there's depression because happy thoughts are forgotten, then what is the plan?

"You are what you focus on"

Easy to say, of course. But it seems you're still stuck on your island.

Maybe too proud to do what you are resisting? Perhaps because you think you all ready know what will happen? (Do you?)

Take my hand and let's jump into the deep blue together!
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I feel I am ready for nothing, as I am depressed like hell these days.
Still, starting to read the new pdf today.
 Quoting: tuuur

Have you been depressed because you've been thinking of happy things?
 Quoting: Taol


Well... Obviously not...
 Quoting: tuuur

So, if there's depression because happy thoughts are forgotten, then what is the plan?

"You are what you focus on"

Easy to say, of course. But it seems you're still stuck on your island.

Maybe too proud to do what you are resisting? Perhaps because you think you all ready know what will happen? (Do you?)

Take my hand and let's jump into the deep blue together!
 Quoting: Taol


I am not even on the raft yet? Damn! hiding

"You are what you focus on", I can agree with that.

I don't think that feeling proud is what holds me back.

Just being insecure and seeing only bad choices ahead, still.
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Belly of the beast, huh?

Good to know you sense it changing. Aren’t we all a part of the process? Each and everyone of us?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, including the beast itself.

We can come to love the great beast within, I suppose.
 Quoting: Taol


Isn’t that the point? If we are perceiving it, it is us. The sinner and the saint doing the spiral dance of balance. Even if we like to ‘think’ otherwise.

Essentially, doesn’t it go something like, “I am the beast, and he is me...”?
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Have you been depressed because you've been thinking of happy things?
 Quoting: Taol


Well... Obviously not...
 Quoting: tuuur

So, if there's depression because happy thoughts are forgotten, then what is the plan?

"You are what you focus on"

Easy to say, of course. But it seems you're still stuck on your island.

Maybe too proud to do what you are resisting? Perhaps because you think you all ready know what will happen? (Do you?)

Take my hand and let's jump into the deep blue together!
 Quoting: Taol


I am not even on the raft yet? Damn! hiding

"You are what you focus on", I can agree with that.

I don't think that feeling proud is what holds me back.

Just being insecure and seeing only bad choices ahead, still.
 Quoting: tuuur


What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
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new paradigm on page 58?

How do I get to this page 58? lol
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@ Taom

What does this new paradigm look like, feel like?
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new paradigm on page 58?

How do I get to this page 58? lol
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Just keep typing...LOL
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Well... Obviously not...
 Quoting: tuuur

So, if there's depression because happy thoughts are forgotten, then what is the plan?

"You are what you focus on"

Easy to say, of course. But it seems you're still stuck on your island.

Maybe too proud to do what you are resisting? Perhaps because you think you all ready know what will happen? (Do you?)

Take my hand and let's jump into the deep blue together!
 Quoting: Taol


I am not even on the raft yet? Damn! hiding

"You are what you focus on", I can agree with that.

I don't think that feeling proud is what holds me back.

Just being insecure and seeing only bad choices ahead, still.
 Quoting: tuuur


What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Being with my son (whom I only see every odd weekend)

Last 20 years or so: playing music (I quit my band in January, will be doing auditions for a new one. Though playing gigs late at night for mostly drunk uninterested people isn't much fun)

Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)

Discovering new parts of my country

I incorporate those into my life already.
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I do want to jump though...
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Re: Q Metaphysics: You Are That Which You Perceive // new paradigm on page 58
I do want to jump though...
 Quoting: tuuur


....to where?





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