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Q Metaphysics: You Are That Which You Perceive // new paradigm on page 58

 
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Please tell us more about the possibility of having counterparts in the upper Earth. We would benefit from knowing of them and interacting with them. Maybe they could invite us over!!
 Quoting: Nahoti

There are a few levels of this, I think, but I really don't understand what I'm 'seeing'. It's bizarre.

Imagine that DNA is not physically-based, but metaphysical. When your DNA is being formed one pair of chromosomes goes to you and another .... ahh... I'll just do a graphic :)

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

I think there is some biological aspect, as well, that drives us to 'look' for our twin. I'm assuming that Maria is my twin, so her being female and me being male might have something to do with it. But I think there is some relation to family.

The Wizard of Oz comes to mind, where each of the characters had a 'twin' in Oz. So if Maria has a father with certain characteristics, for example, then I will also be drawn to people with those characteristics. And vice versa. So a metaphysical 'family' is formed.

There seems to be some shared dreaming involved with the same 'family' over and over, but interpreted differently. Like perhaps a game where the same people can take on different roles.

The common ground seems to be the dreamworld, part of which is 'where' we dream. (But I think an other part of the dreamworld is where we interpret pure information.)

Like I said, it's quite bizarre and hard to put into concepts that I all ready know but hopefully over time I'll understand what I'm seeing more.

Perspective does seem to work in pairs, though. Two eyes, two parts of each eye, two parts of that, etc. Chaos and Order dancing around to form the energy of the domain's experience level.

So in that way our counterpart in 'Heaven' would be the other part of us that makes us a complete 'pair'. Though, again, we seem to be the Chaos aspect of it.

Now that I think about it, the term "soul mate" seems relevant.

The family part is very interesting for me, though. Sometimes it seems that members of our extended metaphysical family takes on the role of aggressor or enemy. This would put it in a whole new light for me.. to think that a member of my family is, in a noble way, pretending to do something 'bad' to me to help me grow in other ways.

I suppose that is why 'love your enemies' has so much value in my new orbit. Because they really are an intimate part of who and what I am.
 Quoting: Taom


Wow Taom! Again, this thread just keeps expanding my mind. I’m going to have to ponder this some more.

“Love your enemies” could also be thought of as “ Love your other you(s)” or “Love your un-me(s)”. That’s how I’ve come to see it.

I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.

It’s been one of the most effective tools in my basket and falls right in line with what is being expressed here. If it doesn’t resonate, just move along. It’s not for everyone.

Again, thank you for sharing your experiences with us, your “un-me(s)”!!!
"...write your own gospel, live your own myth..."
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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

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This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
 Quoting: tuuur

It sounds quite interesting. Do tell if you happen to find it.

How amazing would that be!
 Quoting: Taom


Locale III

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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

 Quoting: Taom


This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
 Quoting: tuuur

It sounds quite interesting. Do tell if you happen to find it.

How amazing would that be!
 Quoting: Taom


Locale III

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 Quoting: TheBecomingest


Yes, that’s it! Well spotted, thanks!

I find it interesting that he only went "there" until about 1960, and that there are no others mentioning experiencing that same thing.

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Interesting enough to post. Start at 4:47

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: kekui

Thanks. I learned a couple of things and it connected some dots for me. This group has several threads of similar information: Thread: Ancient civilizations and archeology - remote viewing
 Quoting: Eductor

I've seen a few commentators and authors who explain things well or are articulate, but their logic makes much of what they're saying fall apart.

For me, with only a 7th grade education to explain the concepts I'm getting it's quite frustrating. In my mind it's perfectly logical and articulate... until I try to explain it. It seems all ways on the tip of my tongue.
 Quoting: kekui


LOL!!! Omg...this is so me. I've been lurking your thread and it's a great read and a very enlightening 'lens' to see through.

I have all of this 'stuff' inside that makes so much sense to me, until I try to explain it. lol. I've stopped trying to explain it for the most part unless the other person really has a grasp on the broader perspective of reality.

I remember a time when I couldn't imagine or comprehend the kinds of things talked about in this thread. It sounded so outrageous...lol. But I get it now...makes perfect sense, and has given me a solid foundation to take responsibility for my creations.

You have to be a frequency match to the life/situation you are living. Your outer world is like the reflection of the frequency you are transmitting and receiving.

Don't like what you are experiencing? Change the channel :) Change the frequency through your thoughts and beliefs and you will perceive and experiences in life that match that higher vibration.

Or something like that.

Sorry, didn't mean to direct your thread...Your posts are really thought provoking and say things in a way that I can easily relate.
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Please tell us more about the possibility of having counterparts in the upper Earth. We would benefit from knowing of them and interacting with them. Maybe they could invite us over!!
 Quoting: Nahoti

There are a few levels of this, I think, but I really don't understand what I'm 'seeing'. It's bizarre.

Imagine that DNA is not physically-based, but metaphysical. When your DNA is being formed one pair of chromosomes goes to you and another .... ahh... I'll just do a graphic :)

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

I think there is some biological aspect, as well, that drives us to 'look' for our twin. I'm assuming that Maria is my twin, so her being female and me being male might have something to do with it. But I think there is some relation to family.

The Wizard of Oz comes to mind, where each of the characters had a 'twin' in Oz. So if Maria has a father with certain characteristics, for example, then I will also be drawn to people with those characteristics. And vice versa. So a metaphysical 'family' is formed.

There seems to be some shared dreaming involved with the same 'family' over and over, but interpreted differently. Like perhaps a game where the same people can take on different roles.

The common ground seems to be the dreamworld, part of which is 'where' we dream. (But I think an other part of the dreamworld is where we interpret pure information.)

Like I said, it's quite bizarre and hard to put into concepts that I all ready know but hopefully over time I'll understand what I'm seeing more.

Perspective does seem to work in pairs, though. Two eyes, two parts of each eye, two parts of that, etc. Chaos and Order dancing around to form the energy of the domain's experience level.

So in that way our counterpart in 'Heaven' would be the other part of us that makes us a complete 'pair'. Though, again, we seem to be the Chaos aspect of it.

Now that I think about it, the term "soul mate" seems relevant.

The family part is very interesting for me, though. Sometimes it seems that members of our extended metaphysical family takes on the role of aggressor or enemy. This would put it in a whole new light for me.. to think that a member of my family is, in a noble way, pretending to do something 'bad' to me to help me grow in other ways.

I suppose that is why 'love your enemies' has so much value in my new orbit. Because they really are an intimate part of who and what I am.
 Quoting: Taom


Wow Taom! Again, this thread just keeps expanding my mind. I’m going to have to ponder this some more.

“Love your enemies” could also be thought of as “ Love your other you(s)” or “Love your un-me(s)”. That’s how I’ve come to see it.

I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.

It’s been one of the most effective tools in my basket and falls right in line with what is being expressed here. If it doesn’t resonate, just move along. It’s not for everyone.

Again, thank you for sharing your experiences with us, your “un-me(s)”!!!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, and there seems to be a whole lot more to this that I haven't yet explored.

I may have found a way 'in' that works. The Wizard of Oz, of all places, might give us a clue. We seem to leave clues for ourselves in books, movies, etc. Or perhaps it's just coincidence.

The day before I had an experience of my feet becoming magnetic and heavy and flipping my body upside down. And today I was updating the website with some 'another you' info and it occurred to me that this book/movie might have been on to something (or perhaps the author knew).

Dorothy wears blue socks and ruby slippers, which seemed to be Order socks (blue) and Chaos slipper (red) to move from one world to the next. A world where each member of her family has a counterpart on Oz.

She clicks her heels three times to transport her consciousness, which I've interpreted to be dimension 0, 1, and 2. (I imagined my little icons to represent them.) I've tried it and it seems to work somehow, but I will try a few more times. I'm not sure if it will have any effect for anyone else, though. In that experience I felt that AOC 'magnetize' their hands with their hand gestures.

Weird stuff. Will explore more.
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
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Excerpt from “Journeys Out of the Body” by Robert A. Monroe ~~Locale III~~

Locale III, in summary, proved to be a physical-matter world almost identical to our own. The natural environment is the same. There are trees, houses, cities, people, artifacts, and all the appurtenances of a reasonably civilized society. There are homes, families, businesses, and people work for a living. There are roads on which vehicles travel. There are railroads and trains.

Now for the ‘almost.’ At first, the thought was that Locale III was no more than some part of our world unknown to me and those others concerned. It had all the appearances of being so. However, more careful study showed that it can be neither the present nor the past of our physical-matter world.

The scientific development is inconsistent. There are no electrical devices whatsoever. Electricity, electromagnetics, and anything so related are non-existent. No electric lights, telephones, radios, television, or electric power.

No internal combustion, gasoline, or oil were found as power sources. Yet mechanical power is used. Careful examination of one of the locomotives that pulled a string of old-fashioned-looking passenger cars showed it to be driven by a steam engine. The cars appeared to be made of wood, the locomotive of metal, but of a different shape than our now obsolete types. The track gauge was much smaller than our standard track spacing, smaller than our narrow-gauge mountain railways.

I observed the servicing of one of the locomotives in detail. Neither wood nor coal was used as a thermal source to produce steam. Instead, large vatlike containers were carefully slid from under the boiler, detached, and rolled by small cart into a building with massive thick walls. The containers had pipelike protuberances extending from the top.

Men working behind shields performed the removal, casually cautious, and did not relax their automatic vigilance until the containers were safely in the building and the door closed. The contents were ‘hot,’ either through heat or radiation. The actions of the technicians all seemed to indicate the latter.

The streets and roads are different, again principally in size. The ‘lane’ on which vehicles travel is nearly twice as wide as ours. Their version of our automobile is much larger. Even the smallest has a single bench seat that will hold five to six people abreast. The standard unit has only one fixed seat, that of the driver. Others are much like living-room chairs, placed around a compartment that measures some fifteen by twenty feet. Wheels are used, but without inflated tires.

Steering is done by a single horizontal bar. Motive power is contained somewhere in the rear. Their movement is not very fast, at something like fifteen to twenty miles per hour. Traffic is not heavy.

Self-powered vehicles exist in the form of a four-wheeled platform which is steered by the feet acting upon the front wheels. A mechanism pumped by the arms transfers the energy to the rear wheels, much like the children’s “rowing wagons” of some years back. These are used for short distances.

Habits and customs are not like ours. What little has been gleaned implies a historical background with different events, names, places, and dates. Yet, while the stage of man’s evolution (the conscious mind translates the inhabitants as men) seems to be identical, technical and social evolution are not completely the same.
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Interesting enough to post. Start at 4:47

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: kekui

Thanks. I learned a couple of things and it connected some dots for me. This group has several threads of similar information: Thread: Ancient civilizations and archeology - remote viewing
 Quoting: Eductor

I've seen a few commentators and authors who explain things well or are articulate, but their logic makes much of what they're saying fall apart.

For me, with only a 7th grade education to explain the concepts I'm getting it's quite frustrating. In my mind it's perfectly logical and articulate... until I try to explain it. It seems all ways on the tip of my tongue.
 Quoting: kekui


LOL!!! Omg...this is so me. I've been lurking your thread and it's a great read and a very enlightening 'lens' to see through.

I have all of this 'stuff' inside that makes so much sense to me, until I try to explain it. lol. I've stopped trying to explain it for the most part unless the other person really has a grasp on the broader perspective of reality.

I remember a time when I couldn't imagine or comprehend the kinds of things talked about in this thread. It sounded so outrageous...lol. But I get it now...makes perfect sense, and has given me a solid foundation to take responsibility for my creations.

You have to be a frequency match to the life/situation you are living. Your outer world is like the reflection of the frequency you are transmitting and receiving.

Don't like what you are experiencing? Change the channel :) Change the frequency through your thoughts and beliefs and you will perceive and experiences in life that match that higher vibration.

Or something like that.

Sorry, didn't mean to direct your thread...Your posts are really thought provoking and say things in a way that I can easily relate.
 Quoting: Magnison

Well-said! Thanks for un-lurking :)
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Please tell us more about the possibility of having counterparts in the upper Earth. We would benefit from knowing of them and interacting with them. Maybe they could invite us over!!
 Quoting: Nahoti

There are a few levels of this, I think, but I really don't understand what I'm 'seeing'. It's bizarre.

Imagine that DNA is not physically-based, but metaphysical. When your DNA is being formed one pair of chromosomes goes to you and another .... ahh... I'll just do a graphic :)

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

I think there is some biological aspect, as well, that drives us to 'look' for our twin. I'm assuming that Maria is my twin, so her being female and me being male might have something to do with it. But I think there is some relation to family.

The Wizard of Oz comes to mind, where each of the characters had a 'twin' in Oz. So if Maria has a father with certain characteristics, for example, then I will also be drawn to people with those characteristics. And vice versa. So a metaphysical 'family' is formed.

There seems to be some shared dreaming involved with the same 'family' over and over, but interpreted differently. Like perhaps a game where the same people can take on different roles.

The common ground seems to be the dreamworld, part of which is 'where' we dream. (But I think an other part of the dreamworld is where we interpret pure information.)

Like I said, it's quite bizarre and hard to put into concepts that I all ready know but hopefully over time I'll understand what I'm seeing more.

Perspective does seem to work in pairs, though. Two eyes, two parts of each eye, two parts of that, etc. Chaos and Order dancing around to form the energy of the domain's experience level.

So in that way our counterpart in 'Heaven' would be the other part of us that makes us a complete 'pair'. Though, again, we seem to be the Chaos aspect of it.

Now that I think about it, the term "soul mate" seems relevant.

The family part is very interesting for me, though. Sometimes it seems that members of our extended metaphysical family takes on the role of aggressor or enemy. This would put it in a whole new light for me.. to think that a member of my family is, in a noble way, pretending to do something 'bad' to me to help me grow in other ways.

I suppose that is why 'love your enemies' has so much value in my new orbit. Because they really are an intimate part of who and what I am.
 Quoting: Taom


Wow Taom! Again, this thread just keeps expanding my mind. I’m going to have to ponder this some more.

“Love your enemies” could also be thought of as “ Love your other you(s)” or “Love your un-me(s)”. That’s how I’ve come to see it.

I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.

It’s been one of the most effective tools in my basket and falls right in line with what is being expressed here. If it doesn’t resonate, just move along. It’s not for everyone.

Again, thank you for sharing your experiences with us, your “un-me(s)”!!!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, and there seems to be a whole lot more to this that I haven't yet explored.

I may have found a way 'in' that works. The Wizard of Oz, of all places, might give us a clue. We seem to leave clues for ourselves in books, movies, etc. Or perhaps it's just coincidence.

The day before I had an experience of my feet becoming magnetic and heavy and flipping my body upside down. And today I was updating the website with some 'another you' info and it occurred to me that this book/movie might have been on to something (or perhaps the author knew).

Dorothy wears blue socks and ruby slippers, which seemed to be Order socks (blue) and Chaos slipper (red) to move from one world to the next. A world where each member of her family has a counterpart on Oz.

She clicks her heels three times to transport her consciousness, which I've interpreted to be dimension 0, 1, and 2. (I imagined my little icons to represent them.) I've tried it and it seems to work somehow, but I will try a few more times. I'm not sure if it will have any effect for anyone else, though. In that experience I felt that AOC 'magnetize' their hands with their hand gestures.

Weird stuff. Will explore more.
 Quoting: Taom


I agree. Clues are everywhere. Do you really believe in just coincidences at this stage? I've noticed you saying this several times now.

"Once is chance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is a pattern..." I firmly believe we are in pattern recognition at this point.

Your interpretations are food for thought for me. Let us know how it goes the more you explore.

Weird is where we are at in this timeline. lol
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
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hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
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hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
 Quoting: Taom


hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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hf
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Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
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hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


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Have you heard of Ho’oponopono and the Hawaiian therapist who cured an entire ward of criminally insane patients, without ever meeting any of them or spending a moment in the same room? It’s not a joke. The therapist was Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len. He reviewed each of the patients’ files, and then he healed them by healing himself. The amazing results seem like a miracle, but then miracles do happen when you use this method, or Dr. Len’s updated version called Self I-Dentity Through Ho’oponopono (SITH).
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I agree. Clues are everywhere. Do you really believe in just coincidences at this stage? I've noticed you saying this several times now.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

No, not really. But it's fun to think about :)

"Once is chance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is a pattern..." I firmly believe we are in pattern recognition at this point.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

'Pattern-recognition' is a nice way to put it.

Your interpretations are food for thought for me. Let us know how it goes the more you explore.

Weird is where we are at in this timeline. lol
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Weird, indeed.

And a short while ago I imagined that my feet were grounding me to this Earth's perspective and were heavy.

I then imagined my socks were blue and shoes were red, like Dorothy's combination. (No, I didn't imagine ruby slippers :P)

For me, this represented a core of Order (blue) surrounded by Chaos (red). I then felt I had freedom to 'set' a new direction by flipping upside down while imagining the 'contact lens' on my tongue, per our previous exercise:

Imagination Poll

Please try the following brief exercise and let me know the result.

1) close your mouth and imagine a flat contact lens on your tongue
2) imagine the coin moving around your tongue and turning around upside down

Question: Are you able to feel something invisible moving around in your mouth?
 Quoting: Taol

I was almost immediately pulled into a perspective so deep, I don't really remember anything. I only remember that it was the same kind of blissful feeling that I've had in a few dream experiences before over the years and, for a couple of seconds, found myself in a place that felt very familiar.

I had a similar experience before that without using the 'contact lens' so I guess perhaps it only helps me to train my mind to have an effect on physicality.
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Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
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hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
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I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Wonderful! Thanks for sharing :D
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I'm not sure if it was a coincidence. You do seem to know “more“ somehow Taom ;)
Comedy rock sounds like a whole lot of fun though!!
 Quoting: Nahoti

Hmm.. it does sound like a whole lot of fun :)

Comedy Rock is a great idea.

You'd certainly stand out in that respects, on your own. There'd no longer be a need for a masque. Perhaps there would not be the feeling of awkwardness around certain types of people.

It reminds me of a funny AOC scene:


 Quoting: Taom


Haha that's funny!! Haven't seen this movie.

Not into movies anymore though for some reason. The "acting" just didn't appeal to me anymore. Everyone loves a good laugh,
(well, I do!!) so comedies were fine for a while but after a while even they couldn't do anything to keep my interest. Movies and music have gradually deteriorated in terms of content value in my opinion, that I literally stay away from any of the new stuff.

Is it too much to hope for a change where everything *feels* better again? In our personal lives, we have more control with our immediate environment but we could really work towards a time where things really change for everybody. AOCs have to go!! One way or another!!
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I do want to jump though...
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Choose your chaos

You can imagine jumping with me, some crazy guy from who-knows-where who might be a troll in his mom's basement on planet HooHoo.

My former driver (and good friend) jumped off of a bridge a few years ago when his new wife wanted a divorce.

The problem is, she wanted full custody their baby daughter, too.

We saw each other every day and sometimes I could tell from his eyes in the mirror that he was somewhere else, worried about the teenaged daughter he had already from his first wife. This was before his second wife.

He wanted to see his daughter so badly, and spend time with her. But custody laws lean towards mothers. After a few years he met someone new, and within a few years they were married.

I knew she wasn't good for him. She was best friends with one of the most famous actresses in the world and was quite shallow. Her 'Hollywood lifestyle' really messed up her thinking. She was, I think, only interested in the way he looked.

They had a baby and were happy, for a while. Then I moved overseas and his new job wasn't enough to satisfy her. So she asked for a divorce, and he jumped off of a bridge.

He was quite a big man, with the biggest smile you've ever seen. He had a heart of gold. But when love and chaos meet chaos can win the first battle, with its flailing tentacles and menacing growl. Then we lose hope, not knowing that love all ways wins with chaos within.

Our happiness is not in what we want, I think, but in what we have all ready. We have only to discover the happiness that is patiently waiting for us. It is patient regardless of whether or not we want to see.

Perhaps he could have thought, during those trying times with his first wife, "Maybe it's not so bad. Maybe we don't get along sometimes for problems not really related to each other."

Some people can make you feel like jumping off of a bridge.

And for some, we actually do it.
 Quoting: Taom


Very true. Maybe it's misery, wasting your time focussing on what you think you want.

In Holland there is a saying: "het hebben van de zaak is het einde van het vermaak", which roughly translates as "actually owning the thing (you wanted for a long time) is the end of the fun".
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The good old "fun is in the chase"? We always want something, as humans in our long winding quest of finding out who we truly are. Once that something is had, a big old "want something" hole is now evident since that "once wanted thing" box has been ticked. It's a cycle that would take the persistence of monks to break out of!!
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Please tell us more about the possibility of having counterparts in the upper Earth. We would benefit from knowing of them and interacting with them. Maybe they could invite us over!!
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There are a few levels of this, I think, but I really don't understand what I'm 'seeing'. It's bizarre.

Imagine that DNA is not physically-based, but metaphysical. When your DNA is being formed one pair of chromosomes goes to you and another .... ahh... I'll just do a graphic :)

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I think there is some biological aspect, as well, that drives us to 'look' for our twin. I'm assuming that Maria is my twin, so her being female and me being male might have something to do with it. But I think there is some relation to family.

The Wizard of Oz comes to mind, where each of the characters had a 'twin' in Oz. So if Maria has a father with certain characteristics, for example, then I will also be drawn to people with those characteristics. And vice versa. So a metaphysical 'family' is formed.

There seems to be some shared dreaming involved with the same 'family' over and over, but interpreted differently. Like perhaps a game where the same people can take on different roles.

The common ground seems to be the dreamworld, part of which is 'where' we dream. (But I think an other part of the dreamworld is where we interpret pure information.)

Like I said, it's quite bizarre and hard to put into concepts that I all ready know but hopefully over time I'll understand what I'm seeing more.

Perspective does seem to work in pairs, though. Two eyes, two parts of each eye, two parts of that, etc. Chaos and Order dancing around to form the energy of the domain's experience level.

So in that way our counterpart in 'Heaven' would be the other part of us that makes us a complete 'pair'. Though, again, we seem to be the Chaos aspect of it.

Now that I think about it, the term "soul mate" seems relevant.

The family part is very interesting for me, though. Sometimes it seems that members of our extended metaphysical family takes on the role of aggressor or enemy. This would put it in a whole new light for me.. to think that a member of my family is, in a noble way, pretending to do something 'bad' to me to help me grow in other ways.

I suppose that is why 'love your enemies' has so much value in my new orbit. Because they really are an intimate part of who and what I am.
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It makes so much sense Taom!! You're really very good at interpreting your dreams and experiences. My dreamworld has become much more relative in the past few weeks, although I still don't have any dreams that I am able to recall anything of note yet although the feeling of being on a "journey" is now more present than before.

This entertainment is more enlightening and personally rewarding than I could have ever imagined or hoped for so please let's keep it going until we get everyone that's willing to jump to Upper Earth.
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
 Quoting: Taom


hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


This thread resonates with so many of the concepts that I have incorporated into my life with visible benefits. Ho'oponopono and the story behind it has been a big part of my life since I discovered it some years ago. There is nothing more freeing than taking total control for your surroundings and attempting to make a change to it in a positive way. Whenever I experience or think I am about to experience anything that I don't want in my reality, I bring out this little gem and it always causes a shift in my thinking and circumstance very quickly, nearly immediately. For some reason, I am causing "this" to happen so I work to heal myself (from within) of my erroneous thoughts with the phrases. It's soooo freeing.

Another concept I discovered was of great value was the feeling of love. I am surprised and at the same time not surprised when Taom says love is not an emotion. Years ago, when I discovered taking ownership for ones reality was a way forward, I would go about my regular day just beaming out big hearts and love mentally to everyone my eye could see. So for example, I would be on a train and just send rockets and buckets of love to everybody, with a little "Have an amazing day my friend!!" mentally thrown in here and there for good measure. Doing this gave me the MOST pleasure and peace ever and my day would most likely always go amazingly after such an exercise.

These days, I would love to reintroduce that in my life and would like for other aspects of my perspective to do this as well. hf
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
 Quoting: Taom


hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


This thread resonates with so many of the concepts that I have incorporated into my life with visible benefits. Ho'oponopono and the story behind it has been a big part of my life since I discovered it some years ago. There is nothing more freeing than taking total control for your surroundings and attempting to make a change to it in a positive way. Whenever I experience or think I am about to experience anything that I don't want in my reality, I bring out this little gem and it always causes a shift in my thinking and circumstance very quickly, nearly immediately. For some reason, I am causing "this" to happen so I work to heal myself (from within) of my erroneous thoughts with the phrases. It's soooo freeing.

Another concept I discovered was of great value was the feeling of love. I am surprised and at the same time not surprised when Taom says love is not an emotion. Years ago, when I discovered taking ownership for ones reality was a way forward, I would go about my regular day just beaming out big hearts and love mentally to everyone my eye could see. So for example, I would be on a train and just send rockets and buckets of love to everybody, with a little "Have an amazing day my friend!!" mentally thrown in here and there for good measure. Doing this gave me the MOST pleasure and peace ever and my day would most likely always go amazingly after such an exercise.

These days, I would love to reintroduce that in my life and would like for other aspects of my perspective to do this as well. hf
 Quoting: Nahoti


Do it!!! Even if just one other person who read about it here starts to do it then great change has occurred!! I find for myself that it cycles as well...reality is mental!
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I agree. Clues are everywhere. Do you really believe in just coincidences at this stage? I've noticed you saying this several times now.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

No, not really. But it's fun to think about :)

"Once is chance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is a pattern..." I firmly believe we are in pattern recognition at this point.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

'Pattern-recognition' is a nice way to put it.

Your interpretations are food for thought for me. Let us know how it goes the more you explore.

Weird is where we are at in this timeline. lol
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Weird, indeed.

And a short while ago I imagined that my feet were grounding me to this Earth's perspective and were heavy.

I then imagined my socks were blue and shoes were red, like Dorothy's combination. (No, I didn't imagine ruby slippers :P)

For me, this represented a core of Order (blue) surrounded by Chaos (red). I then felt I had freedom to 'set' a new direction by flipping upside down while imagining the 'contact lens' on my tongue, per our previous exercise:

Imagination Poll

Please try the following brief exercise and let me know the result.

1) close your mouth and imagine a flat contact lens on your tongue
2) imagine the coin moving around your tongue and turning around upside down

Question: Are you able to feel something invisible moving around in your mouth?
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I was almost immediately pulled into a perspective so deep, I don't really remember anything. I only remember that it was the same kind of blissful feeling that I've had in a few dream experiences before over the years and, for a couple of seconds, found myself in a place that felt very familiar.

I had a similar experience before that without using the 'contact lens' so I guess perhaps it only helps me to train my mind to have an effect on physicality.
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Thanks for sharing and reminding me. Sometimes these thoughts flow so fast that i forget parts, like the contact lens exercise. ;)
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I have worked with the Hawaiian tradition of Ho;oponopono. A forgiveness practice. I find it especially useful when dealing with “enemies”. Actually, I find it effective in all directions and situations.

After many years, I can truly say, I see tangible results. I encourage anyone drawn to it to give it a serious practice.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
 Quoting: Taom


hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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Morrnah Nalamaku Simeona revised Ho'opnpono for the West. It's actually a way of life but she and other kauna's were warned about the West. One of her students is Hew Len (who has recently retired). Morrnah was his spiritual teacher and she had him get a Ph.D. in psychology. He has done wonderous things. Here is a playlist of the only long interview of him that I know of. He prefers to stay out of the public eye. He talks about bringing subconscious data to zero point.

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Thanks for opening my eyes to it. I'll check it out :)
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hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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Morrnah Nalamaku Simeona revised Ho'opnpono for the West. It's actually a way of life but she and other kauna's were warned about the West. One of her students is Hew Len (who has recently retired). Morrnah was his spiritual teacher and she had him get a Ph.D. in psychology. He has done wonderous things. Here is a playlist of the only long interview of him that I know of. He prefers to stay out of the public eye. He talks about bringing subconscious data to zero point.


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Thank you Eductor. I watched these when I was first introduced to the practice many moons ago. Hopefully, others will resonate with it. It really has been a paradigm changing practice for me over the years. I practice it with myself, my environment, animals, the stars,...anything and everything, really.

Nice to see you post. :)
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hf

I think you'll find it both effective and useful! ;)
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I heard about it and read about it some months ago. Do you have a good introduction somewhere?
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Morrnah Nalamaku Simeona revised Ho'opnpono for the West. It's actually a way of life but she and other kauna's were warned about the West. One of her students is Hew Len (who has recently retired). Morrnah was his spiritual teacher and she had him get a Ph.D. in psychology. He has done wonderous things. Here is a playlist of the only long interview of him that I know of. He prefers to stay out of the public eye. He talks about bringing subconscious data to zero point.

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Thank you Eductor. I watched these when I was first introduced to the practice many moons ago. Hopefully, others will resonate with it. It really has been a paradigm changing practice for me over the years. I practice it with myself, my environment, animals, the stars,...anything and everything, really.

Nice to see you post. :)
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Thanks! :)

Yep, same here. It's a great intro. and since Morrnah is the one that felt compelled to bring it to the West, I thought it appropriate to go back to the roots of it for anyone looking into it. (Told you, Tony, that I research whatever I get into :)!!!)

The kauna's aren't the only "tribal spiritual teachers" that knew the West was rising. This African shaman was also sent to the West by his tribes' spiritual teacher. His contribution has been to help those with schizophrenia which is actually a manifestation of a tribal shaman and/or medium. He has been able to take some of them back to his village to help them. Btw, his name, Malidoma, means to make friends with strangers. He got his Ph.D., too.

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I'm not sure if it was a coincidence. You do seem to know “more“ somehow Taom ;)
Comedy rock sounds like a whole lot of fun though!!
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Hmm.. it does sound like a whole lot of fun :)

Comedy Rock is a great idea.

You'd certainly stand out in that respects, on your own. There'd no longer be a need for a masque. Perhaps there would not be the feeling of awkwardness around certain types of people.

It reminds me of a funny AOC scene:


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Haha that's funny!! Haven't seen this movie.

Not into movies anymore though for some reason. The "acting" just didn't appeal to me anymore. Everyone loves a good laugh,
(well, I do!!) so comedies were fine for a while but after a while even they couldn't do anything to keep my interest. Movies and music have gradually deteriorated in terms of content value in my opinion, that I literally stay away from any of the new stuff.
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Me, neither. I have seen only one movie in the past 3 years. I guess I don't like the themes that much, though some of them are good illustrations of concepts.

I'm not sure what's going on on the music side of things. I've only really listened to 'classical' music since I was a kid.

Is it too much to hope for a change where everything *feels* better again? In our personal lives, we have more control with our immediate environment but we could really work towards a time where things really change for everybody. AOCs have to go!! One way or another!!
 Quoting: Nahoti

One day we will discover that the AOC is us.

Perhaps that is when the good feelings about things will return. We'll see.

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It makes so much sense Taom!! You're really very good at interpreting your dreams and experiences. My dreamworld has become much more relative in the past few weeks, although I still don't have any dreams that I am able to recall anything of note yet although the feeling of being on a "journey" is now more present than before.

This entertainment is more enlightening and personally rewarding than I could have ever imagined or hoped for so please let's keep it going until we get everyone that's willing to jump to Upper Earth.
 Quoting: Nahoti

Really? Sometimes I read what I wrote and ask myself, "WTF am I saying?" lol

But it's good to know sometimes something makes sense :)

Yes, the feeling of the 'journey' in dreams is what I have been sensing lately, too.
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Q-joke still running?
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Running like a log since 2009! Thanks for joining :)
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Morrnah Nalamaku Simeona revised Ho'opnpono for the West. It's actually a way of life but she and other kauna's were warned about the West. One of her students is Hew Len (who has recently retired). Morrnah was his spiritual teacher and she had him get a Ph.D. in psychology. He has done wonderous things. Here is a playlist of the only long interview of him that I know of. He prefers to stay out of the public eye. He talks about bringing subconscious data to zero point.


 Quoting: Eductor

Great concept. Thanks for sharing that. It has some wide-ranging implications.

I like what he said about how we are stuck in old data sometimes, or living in old memories.

I guess 'zero point' would be the point of processing? I'm not really familiar with that term.
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