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Q Metaphysics: You Are That Which You Perceive // new paradigm on page 58

 
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Isn’t the sun the most powerful token we have?!

If you can’t write good poetry about the firmament, what’s the point?!
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To the author of 'The Handmaid's Tale' the Sun and solstice most likely represent something totally different than what it represents to you or I.

"In the near future, a combination of man-made problems have resulted in the near-death of The United States of America, whose government and Constitution have been overthrown by Fundamentalist Christian fanatics, resulting in “The Republic of Gilead.” This, plus an outbreak of infertility has resulted in the enslavement of the few remaining fertile women as, essentially, breeding stock."

..where women are repeatedly raped in the name of God(!)

Same anti-Christian rhetoric as others. She's just more direct about it.

I am personally excited for the return of the light.
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Perhaps the return is neither light nor darkness.
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I was talking about the literal return of longer days.

When I read that, I sense a balance between the two. Light / darkness, Order / chaos.

To be honest, I didn’t have the context of The Handmaid’s Tale. That excerpt flowed through my perspective today.
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I was talking about the literal return of longer days.
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Oh, okay :)
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“The return of the grey and cloudy days”...
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“The return of the grey and cloudy days”...
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It’s been pretty grey and cloudy here too. No star watching for me. It’s a bummer.
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What? Wow, I didn't realize this.
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Out of 10,000,000 random people (who aren't Neanderthals) I would say only 1 or 2 know of this.

Out of 10,000,000 random people (who are Neanderthals) I would say about 500,000 know of this.

And Neanderthal is non-human and more intelligent?
 Quoting: Eductor

I call them inhuman, but they are an other species of human.

Yes, generally more intelligent.

Where are they geographically located now?
 Quoting: Eductor

They are not confined to any specific region.

They live... among us.



And, are you saying the 6-6-6 are involved in this war?
 Quoting: Eductor

They're the ones that started it and keep it going.

Btw, how do you know so much?????????
 Quoting: Eductor

You don't want to know :)
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Thanks.. I'll sake a look.
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I'm assuming I caught a typo but with you, I always ask! :)

If you have some Genius methods that work for you, perhaps you could share with others?
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I write them different every time. Here's a blog I did on the Genius way back when. Btw, I had about 7 blogs learning this stuff.

https
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 Quoting: Eductor

I think those are pretty good. I don't have anything to add, as that level of material may help someone understand it better.

We've folded it further into a more basic form:

-Order
-Processing (Order+Chaos)
-Chaos

...the Genius of which should be ready in a few months.

Or,

-Past
-Present (equilibrium between past and future)
-Future

With the newer Genius model we can think of the present as folding the possibilities of the future into a single experience. So then it's just a matter of choosing the 'noise' you want to focus on.
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I just finished reading Q Metaphysics.

Most of the book subscribes to or alludes to solopsism. In the sense that everything is essentially me or my minds creation.


Which would make this very post the same thing.

In other parts you talk about people places and things as literal in a sense but that contradicts the above principle.

Care to elaborate or tell me what om missing? Thanks
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I just finished reading Q Metaphysics.

Most of the book subscribes to or alludes to solopsism. In the sense that everything is essentially me or my minds creation.


Which would make this very post the same thing.

In other parts you talk about people places and things as literal in a sense but that contradicts the above principle.

Care to elaborate or tell me what om missing? Thanks
 Quoting: Audiomaze


Anyone who's read this book care to elaborate?
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I just finished reading Q Metaphysics.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Welcome!

Most of the book subscribes to or alludes to solopsism. In the sense that everything is essentially me or my minds creation.

Which would make this very post the same thing.

In other parts you talk about people places and things as literal in a sense but that contradicts the above principle.

Care to elaborate or tell me what om missing? Thanks
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Are you suggesting that if two things are similar, the one that came after must be the one that came before? What would be your definition of 'solipsism'?

Can one's perception be real and be completely valid?

Can something be physical and exist in perception at the same time?

If there is no objective reality, how is it different than it would be if reality was objective?

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I just finished reading Q Metaphysics.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Welcome!

Most of the book subscribes to or alludes to solopsism. In the sense that everything is essentially me or my minds creation.

Which would make this very post the same thing.

In other parts you talk about people places and things as literal in a sense but that contradicts the above principle.

Care to elaborate or tell me what om missing? Thanks
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Are you suggesting that if two things are similar, the one that came after must be the one that came before? What would be your definition of 'solipsism'?

Can one's perception be real and be completely valid?

Solopsism means nothing exists outside of the mind. There is a lot of "everything is you" statements made.

I am not saying either is right or wrong just asking how that was intended to be understood?

That we are all interacting via the same "game creation"

Or I'm the only thing that exists and the outside world is all a dream or my imagination.

Hope that clears up my question.
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Solopsism means nothing exists outside of the mind. There is a lot of "everything is you" statements made.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

I suppose I was more asking how you think of solipsism, rather than how others define it. But I will take that as how you see it, also, so we can work with that definition.

I am not saying either is right or wrong just asking how that was intended to be understood?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Could you define what 'that' is, here?

I am not saying either is right or wrong just asking how that was intended to be understood?

That we are all interacting via the same "game creation"

Or I'm the only thing that exists and the outside world is all a dream or my imagination.

Hope that clears up my question.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

I think 'solipsism' is more of a philosophical exercise, whereas the '21 Laws of Existence' is about how one can think and interact with reality in order to experience more of what one really is, whatever that might be.

'Solipsism' is a dead end, I think, because it doesn't really define anything.
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Solopsism means nothing exists outside of the mind. There is a lot of "everything is you" statements made.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

I suppose I was more asking how you think of solipsism, rather than how others define it. But I will take that as how you see it, also, so we can work with that definition.

I am not saying either is right or wrong just asking how that was intended to be understood?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Could you define what 'that' is, here?

I am not saying either is right or wrong just asking how that was intended to be understood?

That we are all interacting via the same "game creation"

Or I'm the only thing that exists and the outside world is all a dream or my imagination.

Hope that clears up my question.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

I think 'solipsism' is more of a philosophical exercise, whereas the '21 Laws of Existence' is about how one can think and interact with reality in order to experience more of what one really is, whatever that might be.

'Solipsism' is a dead end, I think, because it doesn't really define anything.
 Quoting: Taom


Solopsism is a belief that EVERYTHING one sees is a construct of the mind. There is nothing else outside of my mind.

When you define reality in the book, does that consist of people, places, and things that exist outside of ones own reality or it's just their mind creating what they see in front of them?

Is "the wheel" an illusion?
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Solopsism is a belief that EVERYTHING one sees is a construct of the mind. There is nothing else outside of my mind.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

There doesn't need to be. That would be a surpreme waste of energy, just as we see colors where there are none. If there was 'color' it would be an unnecessary waste of energy.

When you define reality in the book, does that consist of people, places, and things that exist outside of ones own reality or it's just their mind creating what they see in front of them?

Is "the wheel" an illusion?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Reality is whatever you are experiencing. It is very real because we can work with it. It is the only reality we know, and there is no need to experience anything else.

I wouldn't call it mind but perspective. Moreso, it is the method of perspective that we experience rather than the 'mind creating' what we see and experience.

The point of the 21 Laws of Existence is to see beyond the deception that is a part of how we perceive.

Hope this clarifies it some :)

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Solopsism is a belief that EVERYTHING one sees is a construct of the mind. There is nothing else outside of my mind.
 Quoting: Audiomaze

There doesn't need to be. That would be a surpreme waste of energy, just as we see colors where there are none. If there was 'color' it would be an unnecessary waste of energy.

When you define reality in the book, does that consist of people, places, and things that exist outside of ones own reality or it's just their mind creating what they see in front of them?

Is "the wheel" an illusion?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

Reality is whatever you are experiencing. It is very real because we can work with it. It is the only reality we know, and there is no need to experience anything else.

I wouldn't call it mind but perspective. Moreso, it is the method of perspective that we experience rather than the 'mind creating' what we see and experience.

The point of the 21 Laws of Existence is to see beyond the deception that is a part of how we perceive.

Hope this clarifies it some :)
 Quoting: Taom


So then you and I are 2 different beings experiencing 2 different perspectives then correct?
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So then you and I are 2 different beings experiencing 2 different perspectives then correct?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

In that sense, I would be a part of your perspective and there would be a single experience.

None of it is 'correct' I think, but some things can be more accurate than others. (Accuracy being the degree to which something relates to all things.)
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So then you and I are 2 different beings experiencing 2 different perspectives then correct?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

In that sense, I would be a part of your perspective and there would be a single experience.

None of it is 'correct' I think, but some things can be more accurate than others. (Accuracy being the degree to which something relates to all things.)
 Quoting: Taom


Am I not part of your perspective right now?
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So then you and I are 2 different beings experiencing 2 different perspectives then correct?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

In that sense, I would be a part of your perspective and there would be a single experience.

None of it is 'correct' I think, but some things can be more accurate than others. (Accuracy being the degree to which something relates to all things.)
 Quoting: Taom


Am I not part of your perspective right now?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

It is easy to think in physical terms of separation, which makes it more difficult to conceive that there is one "I" in the equation.

We think of "you" and "I" when it is the same thing, as there is only one perspective.

When "I" need to be "you" then I unfold the experience, just as you unfold "Thursday" when you need to experience it.

If today was Monday you could ask, "Is not Thursday part of my experience of time?" and I would say yes. But there's no need to experience Thursday now, just as there's no need for you to experience me in your perspective when you're doing something else.

So, asking that would be like asking:
"Isn't Monday a part of my perspective?" and,
"Isn't Thursday a part of my perspective?"

Yes, but there's only one perspective (the present).
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So then you and I are 2 different beings experiencing 2 different perspectives then correct?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

In that sense, I would be a part of your perspective and there would be a single experience.

None of it is 'correct' I think, but some things can be more accurate than others. (Accuracy being the degree to which something relates to all things.)
 Quoting: Taom


Am I not part of your perspective right now?
 Quoting: Audiomaze

It is easy to think in physical terms of separation, which makes it more difficult to conceive that there is one "I" in the equation.

We think of "you" and "I" when it is the same thing, as there is only one perspective.

When "I" need to be "you" then I unfold the experience, just as you unfold "Thursday" when you need to experience it.

If today was Monday you could ask, "Is not Thursday part of my experience of time?" and I would say yes. But there's no need to experience Thursday now, just as there's no need for you to experience me in your perspective when you're doing something else.

So, asking that would be like asking:
"Isn't Monday a part of my perspective?" and,
"Isn't Thursday a part of my perspective?"

Yes, but there's only one perspective (the present).
 Quoting: Taom


So with the above in mind, in your view, is the present:

1) An almost infinite amount of experiences happening at this moment, fragmented (although ultimately controlled by one thing). And if so where are the bounds? Does this include future and present?

2) Only one experience

3) <insert alternative perspective here>

Thanks!
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Please note that the website has been updated with tons of new material: [link to www.qmetaphysics.com]

also, I will get to other questions shortly :)

thanks
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So with the above in mind, in your view, is the present:

1) An almost infinite amount of experiences happening at this moment, fragmented (although ultimately controlled by one thing). And if so where are the bounds? Does this include future and present?

2) Only one experience

3) <insert alternative perspective here>

Thanks!
 Quoting: OTR

There's no need for any more than one experience, as that would be a tremendous waste of energy.

It's more of the processing of 'noise' into 'information' that is easiest to perceive.

In a large sense, the 'present' is a reference rather than something that we can point to. (Just as there is no 'here' exactly)
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So with the above in mind, in your view, is the present:

1) An almost infinite amount of experiences happening at this moment, fragmented (although ultimately controlled by one thing). And if so where are the bounds? Does this include future and present?

2) Only one experience

3) <insert alternative perspective here>

Thanks!
 Quoting: OTR

There's no need for any more than one experience, as that would be a tremendous waste of energy.

It's more of the processing of 'noise' into 'information' that is easiest to perceive.

In a large sense, the 'present' is a reference rather than something that we can point to. (Just as there is no 'here' exactly)
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I see. Thank you.

A few more questions, and crossing over a bit with the other thread.

Do you think there was a step before this level of perception? If so what do you think it looked like?

And what do you think the next step will look / feel like?

I know what I’m asking but it’s hard to communicate. If only this level of perception allowed for thought bubble transfer rather than words.
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I see. Thank you.

A few more questions, and crossing over a bit with the other thread.

Do you think there was a step before this level of perception? If so what do you think it looked like?

And what do you think the next step will look / feel like?

I know what I’m asking but it’s hard to communicate. If only this level of perception allowed for thought bubble transfer rather than words.
 Quoting: OTR

Still thinking about this one...
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I see. Thank you.

A few more questions, and crossing over a bit with the other thread.

Do you think there was a step before this level of perception? If so what do you think it looked like?

And what do you think the next step will look / feel like?

I know what I’m asking but it’s hard to communicate. If only this level of perception allowed for thought bubble transfer rather than words.
 Quoting: OTR

Still thinking about this one...
 Quoting: Taom


Thank you for letting me know you’ve read this and are considering it! I appreciate that.
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Do you think there was a step before this level of perception? If so what do you think it looked like?
 Quoting: OTR

I would say it's more of a discovering of a seemingly-infinite here/now rather than a linear progression.

This process of discovery may appear to be linear if that's how we perceive things, however. There may seem to be a step 'before' or 'after' just as Monday seems to come before Thursday. But it also comes after Thursday. And we also made up the days of the week, so it's irrelevant.

We make up the logic that we use to sense things. The type of logic or system we use doesn't matter, since there is no logic that can 'contain' the whole, and none that are any closer to the 'truth' than any other.

We would need to be sense the whole in order sense any as being closer to the 'truth'. That's why we have said that playing videogames can be just as 'enlightening' as meditation or some other activity. (We might assume that one is better than the other because of how it makes us feel or what effect it seems to have, but any feeling or thought is a mis-interpretation of 'truth'.)

...and it's all for your entertainment. Existence is not to be taken too seriously, despite its seemingly endless and varied interpretations.

In a way, the whole would be needed to perceive the whole. The steps we take are something to maintain our existence, not to allow us to progress. We can go 'backwards' if we wanted to, and that would also be a progression, in that way.

We don't really know what progress is, because we cannot perceive what we would be progressing to, if anything. That we assume that we are not all ready that which we think we are progressing to, could be an endless source of amusement by itself.

I would say that existence is the purpose, not anything that we perceive about it. Those are the dramas that keep us in motion to support our reality. If there is a step 'before', it's ultimately meaningless. The 'evil' of the agents of chaos or the 'good' of others are entertainments, in the broad sense. We focus on the details and think it is real and wonder about the next step because that's what keeps reality going.

And what do you think the next step will look / feel like?
 Quoting: OTR

I would say that what it looks and feels like doesn't matter in the least. The 'next' step does not change the value of the whole, because the whole is independent of any interpretation.

We perceive the 'next' to make sense of it, but it doesn't affect it. It remains the same, but our interpretation of it changes.

How we interpret becomes our past, present, and future. But only as a concept, like 'Thursday'.

That which we have interpreted becomes our past. Those interpretations that are more like our current interpretation are our more recent past. Those that are unlike, our distant past.

We might look back to when we were a child and think that we were thinking a similar way as we are now. Yet, we are able to remember because we are relating something 'distant' with something 'present'. If there was no relation there would be no memory.

We don't, then, have a memory of the future because we haven't made sense of it. The 'making sense' part we call the present, the bridge between the Order of the past and the Chaos of the future.

Our interpretation of the 'next' steps can only be from the present. When we get there, it will be vastly different, but we won't realize it because everything will have all ready been re-interpreted.

I would even say there are no future steps, and we did not make the past steps (only remember them).

The next step, in that way, would be a re-interpretation of the present. Our memory of the past changing at each re-interpretation, and the future never existing until we fold it into the present.

I know what I’m asking but it’s hard to communicate. If only this level of perception allowed for thought bubble transfer rather than words.
 Quoting: OTR

Yes, and this may not be the answer you're looking for, but without the proper common language to express these concepts I think it's somewhat impossible.

But even a transfer of information would be a re-interpretation. A 1:1 transfer would be redundant.
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Thank you for letting me know you’ve read this and are considering it! I appreciate that.
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My pleasure :) Thanks for the deep question!
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Thank you for letting me know you’ve read this and are considering it! I appreciate that.
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My pleasure :) Thanks for the deep question!
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Thank you! You caught the meaning of both questions, and explained your thoughts on them perfectly. Thank you for taking the time to explore it with me.

No further questions at this point...

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Thank you for letting me know you’ve read this and are considering it! I appreciate that.
 Quoting: OTR

My pleasure :) Thanks for the deep question!
 Quoting: Taom


Thank you! You caught the meaning of both questions, and explained your thoughts on them perfectly. Thank you for taking the time to explore it with me.

No further questions at this point...
 Quoting: OTR

Wonderful!

You're very welcome :)
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I’m purposely keeping this away from the other thread because I don’t want to break your flow there.

I hope that’s ok!

You’ve said (and correct me if ive misunderstood) both that the more you interact with something, the more it appears, but also that we need to repackage that we don’t want so that it doesn’t need to appear in day to day.

So is your purpose to bring more of that which you are pointing to, to day to day (local)? In which case why? To break through and realise there are better ways? Or?

Or to repackage so it resolves itself away from local, leaving a bubble here and now can be unaffected, while also keeping that chaos in mind and letting it play out on a bigger stage where it only affects us if we choose for it to?

Thanks, Mr!
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I’m purposely keeping this away from the other thread because I don’t want to break your flow there.

I hope that’s ok!

You’ve said (and correct me if ive misunderstood) both that the more you interact with something, the more it appears, but also that we need to repackage that we don’t want so that it doesn’t need to appear in day to day.

So is your purpose to bring more of that which you are pointing to, to day to day (local)? In which case why? To break through and realise there are better ways? Or?

Or to repackage so it resolves itself away from local, leaving a bubble here and now can be unaffected, while also keeping that chaos in mind and letting it play out on a bigger stage where it only affects us if we choose for it to?

Thanks, Mr!
 Quoting: OTR

I supposed you've checked out (per the other thread) but please let me know if your question needs some clarification.

Thanks :)
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