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The time has come.

Thread: Notes from the Second Earth: "The Greatest Story Never Told" The End of Deception (page 33)
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...


If it endeared you, do you think it would change anything?

...


Ogmios is the Messiah.

The one that comes after will not be human. (The "Great Genius" that Chaol alluded to.)

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It's very much tied to one of the main driving forces behind common interactions. In this way, it's about capitalism and finance. The 'start' of the Golden Age is far more than just about money, however.

I suppose someone in future might see it as the unlocking of the shackles of bondage.

I see it as diminishing the force that gives the Matrix (a matrix of '6-6-6') its power.

Baby steps, but a step in very interesting directions.
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 Quoting: Magnison

This was part of an ongoing conversation, as the quotes above will imply. In that respect it must be taken in context.

I do not say that Trump is "the saviour of all things good".

Eductor was referring to this post: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

In which I state:

Betting on the devil is always the safest bet. (At least until the 'messiah' betrays them, such as may begin this month to help usher in the Golden Age.)
 Quoting: Kore

I'm not implying that Trump is Jesus, of course.

Here I identify Trump as the Ogmios in Nostradamus' work. Like an onion with layers, Trump is the 'Messiah' in the sense that he is a 'viper' in a den of vipers whose actions to save his own sense of self (as a lover of humanity) will bring it all crashing down, as in this post:

The final layer is like a viper in a den of vipers that comes up with an elaborate strategy to wipe out all of the other vipers for the sole benefit of a humanity that would prosper much more without any vipers at all.
 Quoting: KEKui

For example, we can think of the main antagonist in the film 'Inglourious Basterds' (Col. Hans Landa, played by Christoph Waltz) as a type of 'messiah' figure who is, in the film, an evil person whose maneuvers to save himself basically bring an immediate end to World War II.

"Would you take that deal?"

He would not be the 'saviour of all things good' of course, but in a sense, he is the Messiah figure of the story. Though of course I don't mean that he, or Trump, is Jesus.

I've identified Trump as being a part of the Deep Stink, but it doesn't mean he cannot also be a tool in a much larger process of the Chaos/Order harmony.

I don't mean that any agent of the Deep Stink is Jesus, certainly :) But everyone has a role to play.

If we assume that very chaotic forces do not also have very "good" forces inside of them, we are lost.

Or, as Jesus would say, love your enemies.
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For the graphical version of this concept:


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Aren’t Neo and Agent Smith just 2 sides of the same coin, so to speak? :)
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I hadn't even thought about it. My first choice was to have events which are orchestrated. My experience with past events is that we may all have a different path within the event, but we always ended up at the same place.

What are your thoughts about reconciling all the different paths?
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I had a dream about such an event last night. I'm not sure if it has any significance, as I normally don't dream about such things, but Maria was there and she was standing next to a brass metal laithe that I understood to be a key, like this one [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Let's try for an event! No expectations or themes. Totally open to possibilities. We'll just see if we can connect. I don't know if the laithe is the key but it reminds me of the device we used before for MindCraft, the brass phonograph.
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The experiences I've had over the past couple of weeks, since about the day this was posted (November 28) have been quite profound.

I don't think I've even gotten past the doorway, yet!

This key still seems to be a combination of image and imagination. (The three parts I mentioned.) I've been testing out different variations and have had interesting experiences with each.

My original impression of the evolving material was "Q Metaphysics". I registered the domain as qmetaphysics.com but thought the 'Q' stood for 'quantum'.

Although it has some implications for physics (and the 'science' known as quantum physics) it's actually related to something much older. So I'll just refer to it as Q Metaphysics from now.
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Is there any more information you can share regarding the bold above? I am intrigued.
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Just for a laugh...
Thread: Will king Arthur come back
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The experiences I've had over the past couple of weeks, since about the day this was posted (November 28) have been quite profound.

I don't think I've even gotten past the doorway, yet!

This key still seems to be a combination of image and imagination. (The three parts I mentioned.) I've been testing out different variations and have had interesting experiences with each.

My original impression of the evolving material was "Q Metaphysics". I registered the domain as qmetaphysics.com but thought the 'Q' stood for 'quantum'.

Although it has some implications for physics (and the 'science' known as quantum physics) it's actually related to something much older. So I'll just refer to it as Q Metaphysics from now.
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Is there any more information you can share regarding the bold above? I am intrigued.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Just some ancient notes that inspired other teachings. It's a bit different than what it inspired, so I can see why it was 'translated' into a more accessible way.
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Aren’t Neo and Agent Smith just 2 sides of the same coin, so to speak? :)
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Agent Smith calls The Oracle 'mom' but Neo appears to have been born outside the Matrix. Unless 'outside the Matrix is also the Matrix'.

(Or maybe her students call her 'mom'? So perhaps Smith was a student also.)

But really, they seem like long-lost brothers :)

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If 'King Arthur' is the best the "freemasons" have, that is pretty funny.
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Aren’t Neo and Agent Smith just 2 sides of the same coin, so to speak? :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Agent Smith calls The Oracle 'mom' but Neo appears to have been born outside the Matrix. Unless 'outside the Matrix is also the Matrix'.

(Or maybe her students call her 'mom'? So perhaps Smith was a student also.)

But really, they seem like long-lost brothers :)
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Makes sense. I was thinking they were twins in a weird way. Lol
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 Quoting: tuuur

If 'King Arthur' is the best the "freemasons" have, that is pretty funny.
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What if the story of “King Arthur” was construed to the opposite for business sake? I mean all the stories that were transcribed and translated as well as the latest movies etc don’t match.

One clue is the myth of the hero cycle in a story, there’s quantified information into/out/from/within specs of the “real” one. Like lies that surround the truth.

In the sense of language, King Arthur is England’s hero. What language are we all speaking, writing, listening, reading, thinking and last not: dreaming?

This is a very informative thread and a great one.

Thank you.

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What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
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Nice. For me, it is also going out for a nice long walk. Usually by the sea or lake, or sometimes just walking through the city and seeing the different stories going on. It helps to bring perspective into my life.

When I was growing up and things weren't so good sometimes, I would think to myself, "It could be worse than this" and find happiness in that it wasn't.

If I was sad because I was sleeping on the balcony in the cold I would think "It could be worse than this. There are kids who have no place to sleep. At least I have enough clothes to keep me warm."

If I was sad because my mom was sick with cancer and nearly all of our money went for medical treatment I would think, "It could be worse than this. Some kids never really had a mom."

If I was sad because I only had noodles to eat for dinner I would think, "Well, it's not so bad. At least these are some pretty good noodles."

Then the way I would see it changed. It became more of a game. "What are some creative ways I could warm myself up?", "How many new grey hairs can I count on my mom's head?", "How spicy can I make these noodles?"

It sounds a bit corny, perhaps, but it really helped me growing up and gave me confidence to face just about anything.

It still helps me to this day but it's more automatic. If someone steps on my foot I think, "Well, that's not so bad. It could have hurt much worse."

Or sometimes I think of how they could have done a better job being evil, if it was intentional. Then I think, "Well, they didn't do it that way, did they? Maybe they didn't mean to hurt me that much." I think when people do 'bad' things they don't want to be too bad. Just 'enough' to express themselves.

I suppose we can learn to be thankful for the reality that we find ourselves in, as there is no limit to the ways in which 'bad' things can present themselves.

When my mom died, it took a while for me to realize what it meant. Somehow I learned to deal with it by seeing the good things about her and thinking of how much others really loved and appreciated her. (Something I was made aware of by the sheer numbers of people that came from all around the country to pay their respects.) I had seen her sick with cancer for about 7 years before that, and hadn't realized how much she helped others even during that time.

The thing with feelings is that they colour your entire outlook on life. Everything takes on a new light in the light of sadness or depression.

Often, we do not understand our parents because we spend so much time around them that we take on their thoughts and mannerisms. They may remind us of the parts of ourselves that we are uncomfortable with.

But if I hadn't 'resolved my issues' with my mother, I suppose I would still have problems understanding the real value of a relationship with an other woman.

Sometimes we need to look at the woman (or man) we 'once' loved and think, she could be worse than that.

Then we can learn to 'love' it in ourselves, because there is no need to resist something that we've known for 13 years, for example.
 Quoting: Taom


... or 18 years.

Wow, thanks for sharing. Just catching up on the thread.
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Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)
 Quoting: tuuur

Curious. Do you need to get inspired before drawing?

Why not just take out some paper and start drawing?
 Quoting: Taom


I don't really need to be inspired, but in a way that feels better to me.

If I have an idea, I might draw something like this portrait:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

I sometimes do just start without any concept beforehand. Pretty interesting abstract pieces come from sessions like that.

Like this one:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
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I do want to jump though...
 Quoting: tuuur

Choose your chaos

You can imagine jumping with me, some crazy guy from who-knows-where who might be a troll in his mom's basement on planet HooHoo.

My former driver (and good friend) jumped off of a bridge a few years ago when his new wife wanted a divorce.

The problem is, she wanted full custody their baby daughter, too.

We saw each other every day and sometimes I could tell from his eyes in the mirror that he was somewhere else, worried about the teenaged daughter he had already from his first wife. This was before his second wife.

He wanted to see his daughter so badly, and spend time with her. But custody laws lean towards mothers. After a few years he met someone new, and within a few years they were married.

I knew she wasn't good for him. She was best friends with one of the most famous actresses in the world and was quite shallow. Her 'Hollywood lifestyle' really messed up her thinking. She was, I think, only interested in the way he looked.

They had a baby and were happy, for a while. Then I moved overseas and his new job wasn't enough to satisfy her. So she asked for a divorce, and he jumped off of a bridge.

He was quite a big man, with the biggest smile you've ever seen. He had a heart of gold. But when love and chaos meet chaos can win the first battle, with its flailing tentacles and menacing growl. Then we lose hope, not knowing that love all ways wins with chaos within.

Our happiness is not in what we want, I think, but in what we have all ready. We have only to discover the happiness that is patiently waiting for us. It is patient regardless of whether or not we want to see.

Perhaps he could have thought, during those trying times with his first wife, "Maybe it's not so bad. Maybe we don't get along sometimes for problems not really related to each other."

Some people can make you feel like jumping off of a bridge.

And for some, we actually do it.
 Quoting: Taom


Very true. Maybe it's misery, wasting your time focussing on what you think you want.

In Holland there is a saying: "het hebben van de zaak is het einde van het vermaak", which roughly translates as "actually owning the thing (you wanted for a long time) is the end of the fun".
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I’m sorry Gigs became less fun because it was just drunk people. I’m proud of you that you quit what wasn’t working and are looking for something else. I hope it works out! New people can be fun.
 Quoting: OTR

It sounds like an opportunity!

Maybe it's time for him to get drunk and get a table with a few friends and see a band play. Perhaps discover ways to play to his audience and make it fun :)

Or just a way to see himself in the audience when he is playing.

Tuuur, the musical comedian!
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I used to play in a band that played kind of comedy rock. We did have lots of fun on stage. :)
Next year we'll play a few gigs again, so we'll see how that goes.
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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

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This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
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Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)
 Quoting: tuuur

Curious. Do you need to get inspired before drawing?

Why not just take out some paper and start drawing?
 Quoting: Taom


I don't really need to be inspired, but in a way that feels better to me.

If I have an idea, I might draw something like this portrait:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

I sometimes do just start without any concept beforehand. Pretty interesting abstract pieces come from sessions like that.

Like this one:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: tuuur


Are these actually your drawings?

Awesome. ;)
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Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)
 Quoting: tuuur

Curious. Do you need to get inspired before drawing?

Why not just take out some paper and start drawing?
 Quoting: Taom


I don't really need to be inspired, but in a way that feels better to me.

If I have an idea, I might draw something like this portrait:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

I sometimes do just start without any concept beforehand. Pretty interesting abstract pieces come from sessions like that.

Like this one:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: tuuur


Are these actually your drawings?

Awesome. ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Yes they are, thank you!
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 Quoting: tuuur

If 'King Arthur' is the best the "freemasons" have, that is pretty funny.
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What if the story of “King Arthur” was construed to the opposite for business sake? I mean all the stories that were transcribed and translated as well as the latest movies etc don’t match.

One clue is the myth of the hero cycle in a story, there’s quantified information into/out/from/within specs of the “real” one. Like lies that surround the truth.

In the sense of language, King Arthur is England’s hero. What language are we all speaking, writing, listening, reading, thinking and last not: dreaming?

This is a very informative thread and a great one.

Thank you.
 Quoting: MakeSaveDestroy

Thank you, and welcome :)

Jesuits, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Illuminati, and other groups I won't mention here, all seem to be sitting at King Arthur's round table.

But, yes, I guess King Arthur would be England's hero in a way. Too bad he didn't have any followers, just movie-goers.
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... or 18 years.

Wow, thanks for sharing. Just catching up on the thread.
 Quoting: tuuur

Looked like a '3' to me but I guess you would know best :)
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Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)
 Quoting: tuuur

Curious. Do you need to get inspired before drawing?

Why not just take out some paper and start drawing?
 Quoting: Taom


I don't really need to be inspired, but in a way that feels better to me.

If I have an idea, I might draw something like this portrait:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

I sometimes do just start without any concept beforehand. Pretty interesting abstract pieces come from sessions like that.

Like this one:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: tuuur

It is interesting to peer into your soul after all this time. I feel like I know you much better now :)

Thank you for sharing!
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Very true. Maybe it's misery, wasting your time focussing on what you think you want.

In Holland there is a saying: "het hebben van de zaak is het einde van het vermaak", which roughly translates as "actually owning the thing (you wanted for a long time) is the end of the fun".
 Quoting: tuuur

Yes, we seem to enjoy the becoming but not the being part.

Maybe it reminds us of our pursuit of whatever we're trying to pursue.
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I’m sorry Gigs became less fun because it was just drunk people. I’m proud of you that you quit what wasn’t working and are looking for something else. I hope it works out! New people can be fun.
 Quoting: OTR

It sounds like an opportunity!

Maybe it's time for him to get drunk and get a table with a few friends and see a band play. Perhaps discover ways to play to his audience and make it fun :)

Or just a way to see himself in the audience when he is playing.

Tuuur, the musical comedian!
 Quoting: Taom


I used to play in a band that played kind of comedy rock. We did have lots of fun on stage. :)
Next year we'll play a few gigs again, so we'll see how that goes.
 Quoting: tuuur

What a coincidence :)

It sounds like fun!
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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

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This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
 Quoting: tuuur

It sounds quite interesting. Do tell if you happen to find it.

How amazing would that be!
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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

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This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
 Quoting: tuuur

It sounds quite interesting. Do tell if you happen to find it.

How amazing would that be!
 Quoting: Taom


I'm interested too Tuuur! Look it up!!!
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Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)
 Quoting: tuuur

Curious. Do you need to get inspired before drawing?

Why not just take out some paper and start drawing?
 Quoting: Taom


I don't really need to be inspired, but in a way that feels better to me.

If I have an idea, I might draw something like this portrait:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

I sometimes do just start without any concept beforehand. Pretty interesting abstract pieces come from sessions like that.

Like this one:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: tuuur


Are these actually your drawings?

Awesome. ;)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


They are awesome!! Really like the abstract one. Very impressive :)
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I’m sorry Gigs became less fun because it was just drunk people. I’m proud of you that you quit what wasn’t working and are looking for something else. I hope it works out! New people can be fun.
 Quoting: OTR

It sounds like an opportunity!

Maybe it's time for him to get drunk and get a table with a few friends and see a band play. Perhaps discover ways to play to his audience and make it fun :)

Or just a way to see himself in the audience when he is playing.

Tuuur, the musical comedian!
 Quoting: Taom


I used to play in a band that played kind of comedy rock. We did have lots of fun on stage. :)
Next year we'll play a few gigs again, so we'll see how that goes.
 Quoting: tuuur

What a coincidence :)

It sounds like fun!
 Quoting: Taom


I'm not sure if it was a coincidence. You do seem to know “more“ somehow Taom ;)
Comedy rock sounds like a whole lot of fun though!!
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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

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This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
 Quoting: tuuur

It sounds quite interesting. Do tell if you happen to find it.

How amazing would that be!
 Quoting: Taom


It would help tie a lot of loose ends. Very interested in finding out about the types/styles of transportation.
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Please tell us more about the possibility of having counterparts in the upper Earth. We would benefit from knowing of them and interacting with them. Maybe they could invite us over!!
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I'm not sure if it was a coincidence. You do seem to know “more“ somehow Taom ;)
Comedy rock sounds like a whole lot of fun though!!
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Hmm.. it does sound like a whole lot of fun :)

Comedy Rock is a great idea.

You'd certainly stand out in that respects, on your own. There'd no longer be a need for a masque. Perhaps there would not be the feeling of awkwardness around certain types of people.

It reminds me of a funny AOC scene:


video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

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This made me think immediately of a book by Robert Monroe. I forgot which one.

He describes ways to induce out of body experiences using sound. Besides that, he uses a technique for leaving the body.

Now sometimes he describes that he turns around while leaving, and then he doesn't go through the normal out of body routine, but he awakes in a counterpart of himself in a "parallel earth", of which the history lines up for some time with our world, but has diverged. He describes different styles of transportation for example.

I will look this one up.
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It sounds quite interesting. Do tell if you happen to find it.

How amazing would that be!
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It would help tie a lot of loose ends. Very interested in finding out about the types/styles of transportation.
 Quoting: Nahoti

Yes, I'm interested in this, too. Though I'm sure I still wouldn't be able to interpret it properly if the concepts were too foreign.

But I have wondered what Maria meant when she said she could receive calls from mobile phones on (this) Earth while in her world. Now that I know she's not actually that far away and a phone could, in theory, be modulated to pick up signals in the other atmosphere I guess it's possible.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Please tell us more about the possibility of having counterparts in the upper Earth. We would benefit from knowing of them and interacting with them. Maybe they could invite us over!!
 Quoting: Nahoti

There are a few levels of this, I think, but I really don't understand what I'm 'seeing'. It's bizarre.

Imagine that DNA is not physically-based, but metaphysical. When your DNA is being formed one pair of chromosomes goes to you and another .... ahh... I'll just do a graphic :)

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

I think there is some biological aspect, as well, that drives us to 'look' for our twin. I'm assuming that Maria is my twin, so her being female and me being male might have something to do with it. But I think there is some relation to family.

The Wizard of Oz comes to mind, where each of the characters had a 'twin' in Oz. So if Maria has a father with certain characteristics, for example, then I will also be drawn to people with those characteristics. And vice versa. So a metaphysical 'family' is formed.

There seems to be some shared dreaming involved with the same 'family' over and over, but interpreted differently. Like perhaps a game where the same people can take on different roles.

The common ground seems to be the dreamworld, part of which is 'where' we dream. (But I think an other part of the dreamworld is where we interpret pure information.)

Like I said, it's quite bizarre and hard to put into concepts that I all ready know but hopefully over time I'll understand what I'm seeing more.

Perspective does seem to work in pairs, though. Two eyes, two parts of each eye, two parts of that, etc. Chaos and Order dancing around to form the energy of the domain's experience level.

So in that way our counterpart in 'Heaven' would be the other part of us that makes us a complete 'pair'. Though, again, we seem to be the Chaos aspect of it.

Now that I think about it, the term "soul mate" seems relevant.

The family part is very interesting for me, though. Sometimes it seems that members of our extended metaphysical family takes on the role of aggressor or enemy. This would put it in a whole new light for me.. to think that a member of my family is, in a noble way, pretending to do something 'bad' to me to help me grow in other ways.

I suppose that is why 'love your enemies' has so much value in my new orbit. Because they really are an intimate part of who and what I am.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]





GLP