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Saturn went direct again in early September. It is now at 3 degrees 28 Capricorn, opposite the Venus in the US Sibley chart at 3 Cancer 6. So, the current stock market slide can be attributed to this.
Geez, Mars is square Venus today, also.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
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Ooo good one
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Isn't Saturn going Retrograde in the 14-year cycle?
No "protection" for the US anymore?
 Quoting: Aeon 5 Whoaa!


No, Sagittarius rising would indicate that we are

about to defeat our enemies

It might also indicate a major war in the ME

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Saturn going into retrograde would indicate lucifer

losing his power
 Quoting: jake


And the "messiah" gaining his.
 Quoting: Aeon 5 Whoaa!


Right on brother
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


who do you guys define as Aquarius?
 Quoting: jake


if only you knew how ignorant that question sounds...
 Quoting: Deafcat


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Question to experienced ones, Why did I read that a few astrologers never want to talk about the lifespan of children born after 2010? Is there something bad going to happen worldwide?
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If there is to be a reassessment of collective values, and if this opposes the effects of the eclipse, could this be seen as a positive for America; as well as vindication for President Trump who has been falsely accused of collusion?
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About a week after the November mid-terms in America, Mars opposes the point of last years "Great American" Eclipse on the 21st August (@28'53"Leo) phrom Aquarius, which Mars is currently transiting.

The GA eclipse was conjunct POTUS's Ascendant and natal Mars. Mars was also loosely conjunct this eclipse and transited across the eclipse point about 10 days later. The point of an eclipse remains sensitive, astrologically speaking, phor more than just 10 days. The effects of eclipses echo, essentially, eternally

Here's an earlier post I made regarding interpreting the GAE with respect to the phirst in the 145th Saros series of eclipses, which occurred on the 4th January, 1639...

...

There appears to be an astrological consensus that this (GE) eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] should be interpreted with respect to the phirst eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] in this Saros series # 145.

Recalling some astrology, 101, the shape of the original eclipse chart is known as a "bucket", with Pluto, a slightly off kilter "handle", being the chart focus. If there's anything to Pluto's house/sign placement, it's the power ascribed to portable ($$) possessions (tangible) and values (intangible) that will be the repeated theme, combined with some collective soul-searching. If my calculations are correct, Pluto was the only planet below the horizon during the initial eclipse, symbolizing issues of internal power.

I have tried to use the North Pole as the location, 00Ari00 as the ascendant and an equal house system phor the above eclipse charts, but my software shows the ascendant at 00Lib00 on both and wonky midheaven's?

Looking at the major aspects (aspect chart --->) [link to i.imgur.com] between the planets of these eclipses (and cherry-picking only those with an orb < 1.3 degrees), we see:

An extremely tight sequiquadrate aspect between these two eclipses (5 min)
This eclipse (Sun and Moon) square Pluto (0S10)
Saturn semi-square Saturn (0S10)
Ascendant sextile (or trine) Saturn (0A11)
Uranus semi-sextile Pluto (0S20)
Pluto sextile Mars (0S27)
Neptune sequiquadrate Uranus (0A28)
Uranus trine North Node (0S28)
Pluto conjunct Mercury (0S30)
Neptune sextile Sun & Moon (0S34)
Uranus opposite Uranus (0A37)
Uranus inconjunct Jupiter (0A40)
Pluto opposite Mideheaven (0A50)
Midheaven sextile Neptune (0A55)
This eclipse trine North Node (0S57)
This eclipse sextile Uranus (1S07)
This eclipse square Jupiter (1S09)
Saturn semi-sextile Neptune (1S18))

(An aspect with an orb of 0A28 is an "Approaching" to exact (or 'waxing') aspect of 0 degree's and 28 minutes. An aspect with an orb of 1S18 is a "Seperating" from exact (or 'waning') aspect of 1 degree and 18 minutes.)

I'm sure all astrologers can concur there's quite a lot going on between these charts, especially with the slower moving, outer planets. It's all over-shadowed by the considerable awkwardness between the eclipses themselves and the tight square to the earlier eclipses' Pluto.

In the initial eclipses chart, Pluto is sesqui-quadrate (0S05) the 1639 eclipse and awkwardly aspected to both Uranus and the North Node. These challenging aspects between individual will (Sun), power (Pluto), the collective will (Uranus) and destiny (North Node), could reflect the repeated (attempt to bring about a) change of POTUS's, during previous years featuring eclipses in the same Saros series, as some of you may be aware:


1999 – Clinton impeached
1981 – Attempt to assassinate Ronald Reagan
1963 – JFK assassinated
1945 – Death of FDR
1927 – Coolidge announces he won't run again (bit of a stretch)
1909 – Assassin armed with 'palm revolver' arrested within feet William Howard Taft

Notice the 18 year cycle?

Anyway, will we see the greatest effort to oust Trump, thus phar? It would certainly appear to be consistent with the Pluto-power theme hinted at in the initial eclipse. Will Trump be phorced from office? Probably not, imho. Trump's the sort of guy who'd prefer to go on his own terms, eh? My impression is that this eclipse may have a (power) theme almost counter (Original eclipse's Pluto tight square to this eclipse) to the original, whereby any efforts to remove Trump may only elevate him higher.

Cue Donald Trumps chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

Here's the mundane, USA Sag rising chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

In a nutshell, perhaps these Leonine and Aquarian eclipses will insist that dignity (Leo/Sun) be restored to the U S of A (and TPTB there), even if at the hands of an unruly mob (Aquarius/Uranus)?
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is retracing (retrograde) his steps from early Taurus into late Aries creating a sextile to Mars. This adds unpredictability to the social/Aquarian energy (Mars) and suggests a reassessment of collective values ~ potentially opposing Trump (an unruly mob?) or initiated by him against unruly mobsters?

Significantly, Jupiter (Justice bringer) arrives home to Sagittarius on November 9th in-between the mid-terms and 'T' squares off to the Mars/eclipse opposition.

I wonder if Trump has an astrologer on his staff?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


Trump knows the stars. He took astrology advice from me from 2014 - 2017. Not that he wouldn't now just, pft.

Pluto, plutocracy, below the horizon..

I'm looking forward to next year and 2020. Should prove exciting.
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There is a stargate next to Trump Tower and Mar a Largo in Palm Beach. Look at google Earth. The monolith is on Manalapan and the circle is across the intercoastal.
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cheers phor the pin!

I'm heading off to work now but I will expand on my interpretation of the upcoming astrological situation and endeavor to answer your related questions when I have more time.
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Question to experienced ones, Why did I read that a few astrologers never want to talk about the lifespan of children born after 2010? Is there something bad going to happen worldwide?
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About a week after the November mid-terms in America, Mars opposes the point of last years "Great American" Eclipse on the 21st August (@28'53"Leo) phrom Aquarius, which Mars is currently transiting.

The GA eclipse was conjunct POTUS's Ascendant and natal Mars. Mars was also loosely conjunct this eclipse and transited across the eclipse point about 10 days later. The point of an eclipse remains sensitive, astrologically speaking, phor more than just 10 days. The effects of eclipses echo, essentially, eternally

Here's an earlier post I made regarding interpreting the GAE with respect to the phirst in the 145th Saros series of eclipses, which occurred on the 4th January, 1639...

...

There appears to be an astrological consensus that this (GE) eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] should be interpreted with respect to the phirst eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] in this Saros series # 145.

Recalling some astrology, 101, the shape of the original eclipse chart is known as a "bucket", with Pluto, a slightly off kilter "handle", being the chart focus. If there's anything to Pluto's house/sign placement, it's the power ascribed to portable ($$) possessions (tangible) and values (intangible) that will be the repeated theme, combined with some collective soul-searching. If my calculations are correct, Pluto was the only planet below the horizon during the initial eclipse, symbolizing issues of internal power.

I have tried to use the North Pole as the location, 00Ari00 as the ascendant and an equal house system phor the above eclipse charts, but my software shows the ascendant at 00Lib00 on both and wonky midheaven's?

Looking at the major aspects (aspect chart --->) [link to i.imgur.com] between the planets of these eclipses (and cherry-picking only those with an orb < 1.3 degrees), we see:

An extremely tight sequiquadrate aspect between these two eclipses (5 min)
This eclipse (Sun and Moon) square Pluto (0S10)
Saturn semi-square Saturn (0S10)
Ascendant sextile (or trine) Saturn (0A11)
Uranus semi-sextile Pluto (0S20)
Pluto sextile Mars (0S27)
Neptune sequiquadrate Uranus (0A28)
Uranus trine North Node (0S28)
Pluto conjunct Mercury (0S30)
Neptune sextile Sun & Moon (0S34)
Uranus opposite Uranus (0A37)
Uranus inconjunct Jupiter (0A40)
Pluto opposite Mideheaven (0A50)
Midheaven sextile Neptune (0A55)
This eclipse trine North Node (0S57)
This eclipse sextile Uranus (1S07)
This eclipse square Jupiter (1S09)
Saturn semi-sextile Neptune (1S18))

(An aspect with an orb of 0A28 is an "Approaching" to exact (or 'waxing') aspect of 0 degree's and 28 minutes. An aspect with an orb of 1S18 is a "Seperating" from exact (or 'waning') aspect of 1 degree and 18 minutes.)

I'm sure all astrologers can concur there's quite a lot going on between these charts, especially with the slower moving, outer planets. It's all over-shadowed by the considerable awkwardness between the eclipses themselves and the tight square to the earlier eclipses' Pluto.

In the initial eclipses chart, Pluto is sesqui-quadrate (0S05) the 1639 eclipse and awkwardly aspected to both Uranus and the North Node. These challenging aspects between individual will (Sun), power (Pluto), the collective will (Uranus) and destiny (North Node), could reflect the repeated (attempt to bring about a) change of POTUS's, during previous years featuring eclipses in the same Saros series, as some of you may be aware:


1999 – Clinton impeached
1981 – Attempt to assassinate Ronald Reagan
1963 – JFK assassinated
1945 – Death of FDR
1927 – Coolidge announces he won't run again (bit of a stretch)
1909 – Assassin armed with 'palm revolver' arrested within feet William Howard Taft

Notice the 18 year cycle?

Anyway, will we see the greatest effort to oust Trump, thus phar? It would certainly appear to be consistent with the Pluto-power theme hinted at in the initial eclipse. Will Trump be phorced from office? Probably not, imho. Trump's the sort of guy who'd prefer to go on his own terms, eh? My impression is that this eclipse may have a (power) theme almost counter (Original eclipse's Pluto tight square to this eclipse) to the original, whereby any efforts to remove Trump may only elevate him higher.

Cue Donald Trumps chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

Here's the mundane, USA Sag rising chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

In a nutshell, perhaps these Leonine and Aquarian eclipses will insist that dignity (Leo/Sun) be restored to the U S of A (and TPTB there), even if at the hands of an unruly mob (Aquarius/Uranus)?
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is retracing (retrograde) his steps from early Taurus into late Aries creating a sextile to Mars. This adds unpredictability to the social/Aquarian energy (Mars) and suggests a reassessment of collective values ~ potentially opposing Trump (an unruly mob?) or initiated by him against unruly mobsters?

Significantly, Jupiter (Justice bringer) arrives home to Sagittarius on November 9th in-between the mid-terms and 'T' squares off to the Mars/eclipse opposition.

I wonder if Trump has an astrologer on his staff?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


If Trump has an astrologer on his staff he is way stupider than I thought he is.
 Quoting: smithy100


Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan

J.P. Morgan thought there was more to the market than timing, and he used astrologers to help guide him in that timing in his businesses and investments. He’s not alone.

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 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


The elite also believe shit like drinking the blood of a virgin helps you live longer. It doesn't mean to say it is true.
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Thanks interesting .
So much information to consider.

Conflict with a powerful woman regarding a power struggle?
 Quoting: Pinkorchid- Of the Begined


Kavanaugh's confirmation illustrated conflict between women and Trump, albeit indirectly via his choice for Kennedy's replacement. I think the upcoming opposition phrom Mars in Aquarius to the GAE in Leo seems less gender specific and potentially more energetic than the resistance demonstrated against BK. Jupiter's presence lends a wise, steadying hand that may need to be assertively applied to maintain order.
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In your opinion, OP, how are the mid terms affected? Good for Republicans or not-so-good?
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I think just prior to these mid-terms are an ideal time phor highlighting the collective use (misuse?) of past energies employed against POTUS/his choices (like the alleged Russian meddling/BK affairs). There's potential that the American collective will energetically react.

Taken in context with Mars @ 17'38" Pisces during the initial eclipse in the same Saros series, transit Mars will be semi-square to that Mars ~ maybe a diffusing of energies and/or exposing/employment of deceptive efforts.
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Isn't Saturn going Retrograde in the 14-year cycle?
No "protection" for the US anymore?
 Quoting: Aeon 5 Whoaa!


1dunno1

Over the period I'm referring to, Saturn and Pluto are both direct in Capricorn reflecting a general/generational consolidating of power. Interestingly, the initial eclipse in this Saros series 145 was at 13'49" Capricorn.

Don't worry, there's plenty of protection for the US.

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About a week after the November mid-terms in America, Mars opposes the point of last years "Great American" Eclipse on the 21st August (@28'53"Leo) phrom Aquarius, which Mars is currently transiting.

The GA eclipse was conjunct POTUS's Ascendant and natal Mars. Mars was also loosely conjunct this eclipse and transited across the eclipse point about 10 days later. The point of an eclipse remains sensitive, astrologically speaking, phor more than just 10 days. The effects of eclipses echo, essentially, eternally

Here's an earlier post I made regarding interpreting the GAE with respect to the phirst in the 145th Saros series of eclipses, which occurred on the 4th January, 1639...

...


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is retracing (retrograde) his steps from early Taurus into late Aries creating a sextile to Mars. This adds unpredictability to the social/Aquarian energy (Mars) and suggests a reassessment of collective values ~ potentially opposing Trump (an unruly mob?) or initiated by him against unruly mobsters?

Significantly, Jupiter (Justice bringer) arrives home to Sagittarius on November 9th in-between the mid-terms and 'T' squares off to the Mars/eclipse opposition.

I wonder if Trump has an astrologer on his staff?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


If Trump has an astrologer on his staff he is way stupider than I thought he is.
 Quoting: smithy100


Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan

J.P. Morgan thought there was more to the market than timing, and he used astrologers to help guide him in that timing in his businesses and investments. He’s not alone.

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 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


The elite also believe shit like drinking the blood of a virgin helps you live longer. It doesn't mean to say it is true.
 Quoting: thetiggler


If you were into technology or computers youd start to understand how astrology works
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If Trump has an astrologer on his staff he is way stupider than I thought he is.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan

J.P. Morgan thought there was more to the market than timing, and he used astrologers to help guide him in that timing in his businesses and investments. He’s not alone.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


The elite also believe shit like drinking the blood of a virgin helps you live longer. It doesn't mean to say it is true.
 Quoting: thetiggler


If you were into technology or computers youd start to understand how astrology works
 Quoting: FROSTED


IMHO, based on my limited experience, the stars do not lie. The technicality is in interpreting the messages conveyed correctly and requires considerable 'phuzzy logic' phor lack of a better metafor.
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My birthday is in there. That's pretty special.
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Many happy returns when that day dawns
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so if you are saying things will pick up against trump


are you saying that dems will probably win the congress?
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I think not so much against Trump personally ~ I'm leaning towards highlighting prior injustices against him and a veritable landslide in phavor of his partay, potentially triggering trigger happy types... an unconventional energy release of some description
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


As co-rulers we could agree they're both domesticated, eh?
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


who do you guys define as Aquarius?
 Quoting: jake


I associate Aquarians with being: Sociable, cerebral, communicative, unconventional, a little easily phixated at times...
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..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


who do you guys define as Aquarius?
 Quoting: jake


if only you knew how ignorant that question sounds...
 Quoting: Deafcat


if only you knew that a good teacher never insults his students.
 Quoting: simplify


I remarked on a question, not a person and I'm not trying to be a 'good' teacher, especially not when ignorance is fit into preconceived beliefs and desires of what the truth will be.

The day one asks me to serve as a teacher, my manner of sharing what I know might be given different considerations.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


who do you guys define as Aquarius?
 Quoting: jake


I associate Aquarians with being: Sociable, cerebral, communicative, unconventional, a little easily phixated at times...
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


I agree with that those in my family under that sign are outgoing people lovers and always interacting with all around them.
I am a Leo and so is my husband while our son is Scorpio.
I was born the 21st day of August, the couple we are married as is not 100% compatible due to the fact of our natures have same characteristics that clash with one another.
All that while our son is the referee of us and neutralizes all back into the rational and moderate tone and turn, he keeps any big cat fights down and always has soothed the beasts we can be towards each other down to purring again.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


As co-rulers we could agree they're both domesticated, eh?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


I thing where the confusion comes in is that Uranus was not visible to the naked eye 8000 years ago when astrology began in the Middle East. Only the first six "wanderers", as the planets were called could be seen so Saturn was assigned to Aquarius until Hershel discovered Uranus in the 1700s. Uranus is imminently more suited to the electric iridescent Uranians.

Astrology went hand in hand with a majority of presidents right from the start. People of NY vs. Evangeline Adams for instance. In the 1800s, she successfully defended herself in a lawsuit by proving Astrology was not under the"fortune telling statute". She was related to both President Adams and had both JP Morgan and CHas Swab as clients.

Teddy Roosevelt kept a framed copy of his chart on his wall.I met the elderly woman at an American Fed. of Ast. convention in the 70s who was said to plan all of FDR's Fireside chats. Then of course Reagan...did it not seem strange he was sworn in twice, the first time at quite late at night and then again on Jan.5th. Because the distiquished Carrol Righter, planned that. Also the presidential time, Nancy was afraid of the 2o year curse that got a president every year, Righter told her he couldnt stop the assasination attempt but fix it so it wouldnt be a fatal blow. So Reagan was joking all the way to the hospital.
I saw Righters last speech in L.A. at a conference where I gave a talk on Native American Astrology, he recited the well known"a time for everything, a time to live a time to die,"etc. later he died and nancy found Joan Quigly a very nice, quiet upper class lady and greatly skilled. Nancy drove her about nuts with demands and then didnt think she had to pay her for her time at all, not even car fare.
Looking at Trumps chart, he is very open minded and would of course pay attention to any help. I like Joni Patry, she uses Vedic system, which is older and more accurate. but the one he should have on staff is the elegant genius, with two degrees from Harvard, a trained operetic baritone,six foot nine inches tall Noel Tyl. Look him up. He would be a solid gold asset.
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Sorry the presidential curse was every TWENTY years, the year ending in a zero. Reagan "broke" that.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


As co-rulers we could agree they're both domesticated, eh?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


I thing where the confusion comes in is that Uranus was not visible to the naked eye 8000 years ago when astrology began in the Middle East. Only the first six "wanderers", as the planets were called could be seen so Saturn was assigned to Aquarius until Hershel discovered Uranus in the 1700s. Uranus is imminently more suited to the electric iridescent Uranians.

Astrology went hand in hand with a majority of presidents right from the start. People of NY vs. Evangeline Adams for instance. In the 1800s, she successfully defended herself in a lawsuit by proving Astrology was not under the"fortune telling statute". She was related to both President Adams and had both JP Morgan and CHas Swab as clients.

Teddy Roosevelt kept a framed copy of his chart on his wall.I met the elderly woman at an American Fed. of Ast. convention in the 70s who was said to plan all of FDR's Fireside chats. Then of course Reagan...did it not seem strange he was sworn in twice, the first time at quite late at night and then again on Jan.5th. Because the distiquished Carrol Righter, planned that. Also the presidential time, Nancy was afraid of the 2o year curse that got a president every year, Righter told her he couldnt stop the assasination attempt but fix it so it wouldnt be a fatal blow. So Reagan was joking all the way to the hospital.
I saw Righters last speech in L.A. at a conference where I gave a talk on Native American Astrology, he recited the well known"a time for everything, a time to live a time to die,"etc. later he died and nancy found Joan Quigly a very nice, quiet upper class lady and greatly skilled. Nancy drove her about nuts with demands and then didnt think she had to pay her for her time at all, not even car fare.
Looking at Trumps chart, he is very open minded and would of course pay attention to any help. I like Joni Patry, she uses Vedic system, which is older and more accurate. but the one he should have on staff is the elegant genius, with two degrees from Harvard, a trained operetic baritone,six foot nine inches tall Noel Tyl. Look him up. He would be a solid gold asset.
 Quoting: American Indian Elder


very interesting--I'm curious about how Righter was able to fix the assassination attempt so it wouldn't be fatal.
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If there is to be a reassessment of collective values, and if this opposes the effects of the eclipse, could this be seen as a positive for America; as well as vindication for President Trump who has been falsely accused of collusion?
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2020 is the beginning of the end. Pluto conjunct Saturn conjunct the US Sibley Pluto. Get out while you still can.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


As co-rulers we could agree they're both domesticated, eh?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


No, I don't agree with a co-rulership paradigm.

Aquarius and Capricorn are furthest from the domiciles of the luminaries, that is why they are ruled by Saturn.

The next closest signs are Pisces and Saggitarius, that is why they are ruled by Jupiter.

The next closest signs are Aries and Scorpio, that is why they are ruled by Mars.

etc...


The trouble with astrology, and truth in general, is that confirmation bias (which one is more predisposed to the more intelligent one is) allows one to fit new ideas and notions into it. But the truth is that the 'rulership' or 'co-rulership' of Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus simply do not make sense. Their physical placement does not line-up with the esoteric placement they have been given.

Perhaps in a few centuries or millenia, we or something else may affect a change upon the physical to reflect our beliefs, but for now, I will stick to what makes sense from an associative standpoint of what is above and how it is so below.


I have Venus as a sole sign dispositor and Saturn on the 11th cusp as a sole house dispositor, Moon conjunct Pluto, Jupiter conjunct Midheaven, and Uranus conjunct ascendant, along with 19 other partile natal aspects.

I have come to know intimately the difference between a personal planet ruling matters within a house and a transpersonal influencing the matters within it, perhaps more strongly than a vast majority could ever hope to.


Transpersonal influences ought be seen and interpreted for what they are, reflective of influences that come from outside one's personal, inner world. When we disallow personal influences the proper merits they ought to hold, we come into problems like group-think, mob-rule, memes such as the no**dy/a**moly, and isolation from ourselves for the sake of the desires of the collective.


Perhaps I could blah more elsewhere, as it's a far stretch from the intent of your topic, which a greater majority of glp has an interest in.


If you did the work to calculate the Saros cycles to know the correlations, you have my respect regardless of any disagreement we have.

And if you did, you should post the degrees and dates of the eclipses that correlate to the events that pertain to presidents.

I did a thread on the next Pluto-Uranus square sequence and it's potential correlations a while back, but fuck if i remember how i titled it :/

i dug some and didn't find it, but i found this -> Thread: Mention of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto in ancient Sanskrit texts
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” -William S. Burroughs
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Re: The 12th-17th of November L00ks Astrologically Significant phor 'Merica...
About a week after the November mid-terms in America, Mars opposes the point of last years "Great American" Eclipse on the 21st August (@28'53"Leo) phrom Aquarius, which Mars is currently transiting.

The GA eclipse was conjunct POTUS's Ascendant and natal Mars. Mars was also loosely conjunct this eclipse and transited across the eclipse point about 10 days later. The point of an eclipse remains sensitive, astrologically speaking, phor more than just 10 days. The effects of eclipses echo, essentially, eternally

Here's an earlier post I made regarding interpreting the GAE with respect to the phirst in the 145th Saros series of eclipses, which occurred on the 4th January, 1639...

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There appears to be an astrological consensus that this (GE) eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] should be interpreted with respect to the phirst eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] in this Saros series # 145.

Recalling some astrology, 101, the shape of the original eclipse chart is known as a "bucket", with Pluto, a slightly off kilter "handle", being the chart focus. If there's anything to Pluto's house/sign placement, it's the power ascribed to portable ($$) possessions (tangible) and values (intangible) that will be the repeated theme, combined with some collective soul-searching. If my calculations are correct, Pluto was the only planet below the horizon during the initial eclipse, symbolizing issues of internal power.

I have tried to use the North Pole as the location, 00Ari00 as the ascendant and an equal house system phor the above eclipse charts, but my software shows the ascendant at 00Lib00 on both and wonky midheaven's?

Looking at the major aspects (aspect chart --->) [link to i.imgur.com] between the planets of these eclipses (and cherry-picking only those with an orb < 1.3 degrees), we see:

An extremely tight sequiquadrate aspect between these two eclipses (5 min)
This eclipse (Sun and Moon) square Pluto (0S10)
Saturn semi-square Saturn (0S10)
Ascendant sextile (or trine) Saturn (0A11)
Uranus semi-sextile Pluto (0S20)
Pluto sextile Mars (0S27)
Neptune sequiquadrate Uranus (0A28)
Uranus trine North Node (0S28)
Pluto conjunct Mercury (0S30)
Neptune sextile Sun & Moon (0S34)
Uranus opposite Uranus (0A37)
Uranus inconjunct Jupiter (0A40)
Pluto opposite Mideheaven (0A50)
Midheaven sextile Neptune (0A55)
This eclipse trine North Node (0S57)
This eclipse sextile Uranus (1S07)
This eclipse square Jupiter (1S09)
Saturn semi-sextile Neptune (1S18))

(An aspect with an orb of 0A28 is an "Approaching" to exact (or 'waxing') aspect of 0 degree's and 28 minutes. An aspect with an orb of 1S18 is a "Seperating" from exact (or 'waning') aspect of 1 degree and 18 minutes.)

I'm sure all astrologers can concur there's quite a lot going on between these charts, especially with the slower moving, outer planets. It's all over-shadowed by the considerable awkwardness between the eclipses themselves and the tight square to the earlier eclipses' Pluto.

In the initial eclipses chart, Pluto is sesqui-quadrate (0S05) the 1639 eclipse and awkwardly aspected to both Uranus and the North Node. These challenging aspects between individual will (Sun), power (Pluto), the collective will (Uranus) and destiny (North Node), could reflect the repeated (attempt to bring about a) change of POTUS's, during previous years featuring eclipses in the same Saros series, as some of you may be aware:


1999 – Clinton impeached
1981 – Attempt to assassinate Ronald Reagan
1963 – JFK assassinated
1945 – Death of FDR
1927 – Coolidge announces he won't run again (bit of a stretch)
1909 – Assassin armed with 'palm revolver' arrested within feet William Howard Taft

Notice the 18 year cycle?

Anyway, will we see the greatest effort to oust Trump, thus phar? It would certainly appear to be consistent with the Pluto-power theme hinted at in the initial eclipse. Will Trump be phorced from office? Probably not, imho. Trump's the sort of guy who'd prefer to go on his own terms, eh? My impression is that this eclipse may have a (power) theme almost counter (Original eclipse's Pluto tight square to this eclipse) to the original, whereby any efforts to remove Trump may only elevate him higher.

Cue Donald Trumps chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

Here's the mundane, USA Sag rising chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

In a nutshell, perhaps these Leonine and Aquarian eclipses will insist that dignity (Leo/Sun) be restored to the U S of A (and TPTB there), even if at the hands of an unruly mob (Aquarius/Uranus)?
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is retracing (retrograde) his steps from early Taurus into late Aries creating a sextile to Mars. This adds unpredictability to the social/Aquarian energy (Mars) and suggests a reassessment of collective values ~ potentially opposing Trump (an unruly mob?) or initiated by him against unruly mobsters?

Significantly, Jupiter (Justice bringer) arrives home to Sagittarius on November 9th in-between the mid-terms and 'T' squares off to the Mars/eclipse opposition.

I wonder if Trump has an astrologer on his staff?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


Oh look a planets tard.
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If Trump has an astrologer on his staff he is way stupider than I thought he is.
 Quoting: smithy100


Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
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J.P. Morgan thought there was more to the market than timing, and he used astrologers to help guide him in that timing in his businesses and investments. He’s not alone.

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 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


The elite also believe shit like drinking the blood of a virgin helps you live longer. It doesn't mean to say it is true.
 Quoting: thetiggler


If you were into technology or computers youd start to understand how astrology works
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The planets are user interface symbols, the degrees are the coding