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The 12th-17th of November L00ks Astrologically Significant phor 'Merica...

 
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Oh look a planets tard.
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Millionaires don’t use astrologers.... billionaires do.
-J.P. Morgan
 Quoting: Vitruvian Dude


..and they use ones who view Saturn to rule Aquarius and not Uranus.

Transpersonal planets do not have domicile, the notion they do keeps people in the dark.
 Quoting: Deafcat


As co-rulers we could agree they're both domesticated, eh?
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I thing where the confusion comes in is that Uranus was not visible to the naked eye 8000 years ago when astrology began in the Middle East. Only the first six "wanderers", as the planets were called could be seen so Saturn was assigned to Aquarius until Hershel discovered Uranus in the 1700s. Uranus is imminently more suited to the electric iridescent Uranians.

Astrology went hand in hand with a majority of presidents right from the start. People of NY vs. Evangeline Adams for instance. In the 1800s, she successfully defended herself in a lawsuit by proving Astrology was not under the"fortune telling statute". She was related to both President Adams and had both JP Morgan and CHas Swab as clients.

Teddy Roosevelt kept a framed copy of his chart on his wall.I met the elderly woman at an American Fed. of Ast. convention in the 70s who was said to plan all of FDR's Fireside chats. Then of course Reagan...did it not seem strange he was sworn in twice, the first time at quite late at night and then again on Jan.5th. Because the distiquished Carrol Righter, planned that. Also the presidential time, Nancy was afraid of the 2o year curse that got a president every year, Righter told her he couldnt stop the assasination attempt but fix it so it wouldnt be a fatal blow. So Reagan was joking all the way to the hospital.
I saw Righters last speech in L.A. at a conference where I gave a talk on Native American Astrology, he recited the well known"a time for everything, a time to live a time to die,"etc. later he died and nancy found Joan Quigly a very nice, quiet upper class lady and greatly skilled. Nancy drove her about nuts with demands and then didnt think she had to pay her for her time at all, not even car fare.
Looking at Trumps chart, he is very open minded and would of course pay attention to any help. I like Joni Patry, she uses Vedic system, which is older and more accurate. but the one he should have on staff is the elegant genius, with two degrees from Harvard, a trained operetic baritone,six foot nine inches tall Noel Tyl. Look him up. He would be a solid gold asset.
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I agree with your bold statement ~ 'electric iridescent' indeed!

Thanks phor taking the time to make your informative post.
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Also of interest around this time, retrograde Uranus has a waxing conjunction with the US charts progressed Venus, a waning opposition to transit Venus (1st exact on 12th Sep when Venus direct/Uranus 2 degree's Taurus, again on the 31st Oct (Venus retro) and once more on 1st Dec (Venus late Libra/Uranus late Aries)) plus waning sextiles to both the US charts natal and directed Venus's... all this highlights potential phor changes to America's core values, perhaps suddenly and unpredictably accompanied by an unconventional release of energy...

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Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 10/12/2018 03:36 AM
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Also of interest around this time, retrograde Uranus has a waxing conjunction with the US charts progressed Venus, a waning opposition to transit Venus (1st exact on 12th Sep when Venus direct/Uranus 2 degree's Taurus, again on the 31st Oct (Venus retro) and once more on 1st Dec (Venus late Libra/Uranus late Aries)) plus waning sextiles to both the US charts natal and directed Venus's... all this highlights potential phor changes to America's core values, perhaps suddenly and unpredictably accompanied by an unconventional release of energy...

scratching
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


By unconventional release of energy I lean towards those directed energy 'crowd control' thingamy's used to disorientate/nauseate rather than nuclear type releases...
"If you do not go within
You WILL go without."

A wiser man than I

"Standing on truth
Ensures eternal support."

"There is a perfectly logical
explanation for everything
and
a logically perfect everything
for explanations."

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@ Interested 1, in reply

I believe Reagans safety was that the "curse" had to do with the Jupiter/saturn conjunction was usually in an earth sign, Taurus. In Vedic Hindu astrology, that, joined by mars, is the "kingmaker" and was what the star of Bethlehem was comprised of. When other influences joined, it was the king remover. HOWEVER, Reagan, an aquarian, had alot of fixed signs, in air. Righter believed he would surely be a target, but not a fatal one.And that he would himself would not be here. In fact reagan was joking as they took him to surgury and said to his surgeon, " I hope youre not a Democrat", because he trusted Righters word.

How the "presidential curse" came about was allegedly from a cherokee Medicine man, who cursed President Jackson. THe Cherokees had beautiful farms, homes, plantations and schools and a newpaper. When Jackson said they must move, they sued and it went to the supreme court who said Jackson must not remove them. Jackson said let the old men on Scotus enforce this. Then moved the Cherokee to holding pens till winter and then forced 16,ooo+ cherokees to walk through nine states, about 2200 miles.Four to five thousand died in the freezing cold, being driven like cattle, women giving birth along the way handed off their babies to relatives and lay down to die. Jackson died a horrible death from lead poisoning him from bullets he carried in his body and thereafter every twenty years till Reagan, a president died.
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P.S. Ive always had an American Flag, now all of a sudden you gave me a Canada one. ?? Please whoever did this change it back. Not that free Ojibwe/Chippewa acknowledge any imaginary boundry lines...
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Re: The 12th-17th of November L00ks Astrologically Significant phor 'Merica...
About a week after the November mid-terms in America, Mars opposes the point of last years "Great American" Eclipse on the 21st August (@28'53"Leo) phrom Aquarius, which Mars is currently transiting.

The GA eclipse was conjunct POTUS's Ascendant and natal Mars. Mars was also loosely conjunct this eclipse and transited across the eclipse point about 10 days later. The point of an eclipse remains sensitive, astrologically speaking, phor more than just 10 days. The effects of eclipses echo, essentially, eternally

Here's an earlier post I made regarding interpreting the GAE with respect to the phirst in the 145th Saros series of eclipses, which occurred on the 4th January, 1639...

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There appears to be an astrological consensus that this (GE) eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] should be interpreted with respect to the phirst eclipse [link to i.imgur.com] in this Saros series # 145.

Recalling some astrology, 101, the shape of the original eclipse chart is known as a "bucket", with Pluto, a slightly off kilter "handle", being the chart focus. If there's anything to Pluto's house/sign placement, it's the power ascribed to portable ($$) possessions (tangible) and values (intangible) that will be the repeated theme, combined with some collective soul-searching. If my calculations are correct, Pluto was the only planet below the horizon during the initial eclipse, symbolizing issues of internal power.

I have tried to use the North Pole as the location, 00Ari00 as the ascendant and an equal house system phor the above eclipse charts, but my software shows the ascendant at 00Lib00 on both and wonky midheaven's?

Looking at the major aspects (aspect chart --->) [link to i.imgur.com] between the planets of these eclipses (and cherry-picking only those with an orb < 1.3 degrees), we see:

An extremely tight sequiquadrate aspect between these two eclipses (5 min)
This eclipse (Sun and Moon) square Pluto (0S10)
Saturn semi-square Saturn (0S10)
Ascendant sextile (or trine) Saturn (0A11)
Uranus semi-sextile Pluto (0S20)
Pluto sextile Mars (0S27)
Neptune sequiquadrate Uranus (0A28)
Uranus trine North Node (0S28)
Pluto conjunct Mercury (0S30)
Neptune sextile Sun & Moon (0S34)
Uranus opposite Uranus (0A37)
Uranus inconjunct Jupiter (0A40)
Pluto opposite Mideheaven (0A50)
Midheaven sextile Neptune (0A55)
This eclipse trine North Node (0S57)
This eclipse sextile Uranus (1S07)
This eclipse square Jupiter (1S09)
Saturn semi-sextile Neptune (1S18))

(An aspect with an orb of 0A28 is an "Approaching" to exact (or 'waxing') aspect of 0 degree's and 28 minutes. An aspect with an orb of 1S18 is a "Seperating" from exact (or 'waning') aspect of 1 degree and 18 minutes.)

I'm sure all astrologers can concur there's quite a lot going on between these charts, especially with the slower moving, outer planets. It's all over-shadowed by the considerable awkwardness between the eclipses themselves and the tight square to the earlier eclipses' Pluto.

In the initial eclipses chart, Pluto is sesqui-quadrate (0S05) the 1639 eclipse and awkwardly aspected to both Uranus and the North Node. These challenging aspects between individual will (Sun), power (Pluto), the collective will (Uranus) and destiny (North Node), could reflect the repeated (attempt to bring about a) change of POTUS's, during previous years featuring eclipses in the same Saros series, as some of you may be aware:


1999 – Clinton impeached
1981 – Attempt to assassinate Ronald Reagan
1963 – JFK assassinated
1945 – Death of FDR
1927 – Coolidge announces he won't run again (bit of a stretch)
1909 – Assassin armed with 'palm revolver' arrested within feet William Howard Taft

Notice the 18 year cycle?

Anyway, will we see the greatest effort to oust Trump, thus phar? It would certainly appear to be consistent with the Pluto-power theme hinted at in the initial eclipse. Will Trump be phorced from office? Probably not, imho. Trump's the sort of guy who'd prefer to go on his own terms, eh? My impression is that this eclipse may have a (power) theme almost counter (Original eclipse's Pluto tight square to this eclipse) to the original, whereby any efforts to remove Trump may only elevate him higher.

Cue Donald Trumps chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

Here's the mundane, USA Sag rising chart: [link to i.imgur.com]

In a nutshell, perhaps these Leonine and Aquarian eclipses will insist that dignity (Leo/Sun) be restored to the U S of A (and TPTB there), even if at the hands of an unruly mob (Aquarius/Uranus)?
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is retracing (retrograde) his steps from early Taurus into late Aries creating a sextile to Mars. This adds unpredictability to the social/Aquarian energy (Mars) and suggests a reassessment of collective values ~ potentially opposing Trump (an unruly mob?) or initiated by him against unruly mobsters?

Significantly, Jupiter (Justice bringer) arrives home to Sagittarius on November 9th in-between the mid-terms and 'T' squares off to the Mars/eclipse opposition.

I wonder if Trump has an astrologer on his staff?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


Trump is a mason but maybe he's not high enough up to have an astrologer.
Something to add: Trump's Mars is actually in his 12th house of hidden enemies. Guess whose Mars is there, too... it's a middle eastern state founded in 48.
 Quoting: Menrfa


Stop making shit up. Trump is not a Mason and has never even submitted an application to any known lodge.
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Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is retracing (retrograde) his steps from early Taurus into late Aries creating a sextile to Mars. This adds unpredictability to the social/Aquarian energy (Mars) and suggests a reassessment of collective values ~ potentially opposing Trump (an unruly mob?) or initiated by him against unruly mobsters?

Significantly, Jupiter (Justice bringer) arrives home to Sagittarius on November 9th in-between the mid-terms and 'T' squares off to the Mars/eclipse opposition.

I wonder if Trump has an astrologer on his staff?
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


I phorgot to mention retro Uranus (in late Aries) and Mars (in late Aquarius) will be in 'mutual reception' then too
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Re: The 12th-17th of November L00ks Astrologically Significant phor 'Merica...
Also of interest around this time, retrograde Uranus has a waxing conjunction with the US charts progressed Venus, a waning opposition to transit Venus (1st exact on 12th Sep when Venus direct/Uranus 2 degree's Taurus, again on the 31st Oct (Venus retro) and once more on 1st Dec (Venus late Libra/Uranus late Aries)) plus waning sextiles to both the US charts natal and directed Venus's... all this highlights potential phor changes to America's core values, perhaps suddenly and unpredictably accompanied by an unconventional release of energy...

scratching
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


By unconventional release of energy I lean towards those directed energy 'crowd control' thingamy's used to disorientate/nauseate rather than nuclear type releases...
 Quoting: PhellowEarthling


Maybe those weapons some claim were used in the Californian phires could qualify but I lean towards those designed to control crowds...

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