Australia Cancels F-35 Purchase. Buys Russian SU-35 Instead

I wouldn't be thrilled if I was Australian. The gov favors foreigners and is more likely to use them on the natives they want to replace. China is dying to roll over them and get thr opals and whatever else.

The F-35 is not that small. It's a bit larger than the Falcon F16.
But compared to the F22 they look tiny.

Here from a recent training in Norway.

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Bad idea. Russia can, of course, cripple any of their exported jets if they need to. They would probably sell the info to the Chinese, too.

Think of the Falklands war, the French-made Exocet missiles fired at us, and the way the French gave us the means of defending against them.

Last Edited by Union Jackboot on 10/10/2018 04:19 AM

To prevent the enemy from hacking the signal and running off with your advanced stealth jet..

You guys should watch the video.. It's a joke.

Just wait until fully autonomous drones with permission to use deadly force without human oversight are launched. They already exist. As a safeguard against hacking, they could go dark and block all comms, thus becoming impervious to any signals.

Last Edited by Tainted Meat on 10/10/2018 04:34 AM

Yes, but it is still unproven in comparison to F-18 family. I didn't mean to disparage it, but from the Finnish AF point of view it is still unproven, and from the political POV it is too expensive. For us, that is.

Bare in mind that this is a ploy to get us to accomplish things that are unseen. First Australia want licensing to build the F-35 in their country...denied, then they wanted it for a cheaper price...denied. Next the SU-35S has a different spectrum of use. That and they have already taken delivery of some f-35s and no SU-35Ss

Check the date of the video.

It’s an April fool’s joke.

Damn, you people are stupid.

The Super Hornet would make sense with the current infrastructure and training. I think the opinion in Finland was that it wanted closer cooperation with its european friends rather than with the US, hence the favorable opinion for Saab and Eurofighter.

Saab has done a lot to convince Finland that Gripen would be an ideal choice at a much more favorable price and would support Europes military independence with two non-NATO nations working together.

Last Edited by The Gathering Storm on 10/10/2018 06:46 AM

If you think the F-35 is bad, you do not understand the battlefield in the air now.

Most Americans are uninformed dolts, idiots parroting what ever sound bite they ingest.

Russian Fighter Jet Disables US Missile Destroyer Using Electronic Warfare Weapon

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One of the sticking points with Gripen seems to be this: we know that Saab and BAE are going to jointly develop a new fighter. Our decision makers are afraid that we will get poor upgrades and other support when we get closer to the end of Gripen's lifespan (in 2040s). McDonnell Douglas can afford to provide life extension even to a smaller customer, but Saab can't - especially if they are focused on the new fighter.

The politicians, and our military in particular, seem to prefer American jets - especially Super Hornet - because the last time we got great deals (e.g. local manufacturing of parts) and customization options with McDonnell Douglas. General Dynamics didn't agree to any and F-16 got dropped early in the game. The politicians also have the idea that making friends with Americans will get us closer to NATO even though we don't quite dare to apply for a membership, because Russia would throw a tantrum.

Our 'European friends' can't attract us with similar benefits.

Last Edited by Tainted Meat on 10/10/2018 07:29 AM

Say what you want about Russian aircraft but they sure build them pretty...

Su35 is an unbelievable aircraft.

Last Edited by ~Newton's Own~ on 10/10/2018 07:34 AM

They picked a loser.

Sounds like the Aussies are aligning themselves more with China.

Lol, cant wait to hear what the Donald has to say about this....exit USA from defending Bruceland

Klingon warbird lookalike

We're amused that you're amused.

Last Edited by New World Man on 10/10/2018 08:24 AM

We're amused by people that are amused by people..

Think long think wrong! Buddy up with Russia/China and see what the wrath of God bring your way!

I won't believe it until I see it from a news source different from Russian Television.

If it were true, bad move by the Aussies. Russians have great military equipment, BUT the stuff they sell to other countries is NOT of the same quality.

Export variants of Soviet military equipment
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Export variants of Soviet military equipment were versions of Soviet military equipment (armored vehicles, airplanes, missiles) of significantly inferior capability to the original designs and intended only for export. Monkey model was the unofficial designation given by the Soviet Military to such variants. The monkey model was exported with the same or a similar designation as the original Soviet design but in fact it lacked many of the advanced or expensive features of the original.

They will have to line up, Wrath is all scheduled up for the next 5 months, starting with Florida, once again

We're the masters of WAR. We control it all. That's not going to change. I'm not underestimating our enemy either.

Australia fucked up!

God is standing with Orthodox! The only true religion left.

Their loss. Heh they won't even be able to land VTOL on their new carriers.

Surprise, God really stands with the Aghori faith! The world is shocked and we have a good laugh

I'm standing with the USA.