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Strong cinder block home obliterated by Hurricane Michael

 
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Even if the structure held, what was she planning to do when the water from the storm surge filled up her home. Swim around until the water receded?

RIP, hopefully she wasn't mentally incapacitated with dementia or something and no one helped her leave.
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As others have said cinder blocks aren’t strong. They are just hollow concrete blocks. I am no engineer but I believe they have high compression strength but low tensile strength. So they can carry heavy loads, but they aren’t strong against impacts to their side.

Brick houses are the same. Most brick houses are just a brick veneer. If it was a few rows of solid brick then it would start to have some strength.
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I am an engineer, and they're plenty strong to withstand any conceivable pure wind force, in compression or tension. It's impact that hurts them; they are brittle and can shatter, and the mortar between them can also be shattered.

Making the concrete that's molded into concrete blocks, with an additive of flyash seems to make them less brittle. A concrete block basement with flyash in the mix can be very durable. I've got one, 60 years old and I don't think it's ever had an issue.
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Even if the structure held, what was she planning to do when the water from the storm surge filled up her home. Swim around until the water receded?

RIP, hopefully she wasn't mentally incapacitated with dementia or something and no one helped her leave.
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They can indeed drain out as the water recedes, and maybe with help from some mold killer like diatomaceous earth they can be fine again. It's much harder to dry out a wooden structure, where the mold can get in and start using the wood fibers for nourishment. There's nothing for mold to eat in a concrete block.
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Re: Strong cinder block home obliterated by Hurricane Michael
cinder blocks aren't strong at all
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Why not?
They seem sturdy to me.
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there's no re-bar and the cells aren't filled with concrete.
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new oceanfront hurricane code requires the center

of all bricks to be filled with concrete, most old

structures are not
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As others have said cinder blocks aren’t strong. They are just hollow concrete blocks. I am no engineer but I believe they have high compression strength but low tensile strength. So they can carry heavy loads, but they aren’t strong against impacts to their side.

Brick houses are the same. Most brick houses are just a brick veneer. If it was a few rows of solid brick then it would start to have some strength.
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


I am an engineer, and they're plenty strong to withstand any conceivable pure wind force, in compression or tension. It's impact that hurts them; they are brittle and can shatter, and the mortar between them can also be shattered.

Making the concrete that's molded into concrete blocks, with an additive of flyash seems to make them less brittle. A concrete block basement with flyash in the mix can be very durable. I've got one, 60 years old and I don't think it's ever had an issue.
 Quoting: Rosenkrantz


Surface bonding cement with fiberglas mesh is ONE way to make them stronger against side forces. SBC could be retrofitted to older block houses.
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Re: Strong cinder block home obliterated by Hurricane Michael
Even if the structure held, what was she planning to do when the water from the storm surge filled up her home. Swim around until the water receded?

RIP, hopefully she wasn't mentally incapacitated with dementia or something and no one helped her leave.
 Quoting: ~+ <3 +~


They can indeed drain out as the water recedes, and maybe with help from some mold killer like diatomaceous earth they can be fine again. It's much harder to dry out a wooden structure, where the mold can get in and start using the wood fibers for nourishment. There's nothing for mold to eat in a concrete block.
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Too bad she'd be dead by then. At least her relatives would have her body I suppose.
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Re: Strong cinder block home obliterated by Hurricane Michael
As others have said cinder blocks aren’t strong. They are just hollow concrete blocks. I am no engineer but I believe they have high compression strength but low tensile strength. So they can carry heavy loads, but they aren’t strong against impacts to their side.

Brick houses are the same. Most brick houses are just a brick veneer. If it was a few rows of solid brick then it would start to have some strength.
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


I am an engineer, and they're plenty strong to withstand any conceivable pure wind force, in compression or tension. It's impact that hurts them; they are brittle and can shatter, and the mortar between them can also be shattered.

Making the concrete that's molded into concrete blocks, with an additive of flyash seems to make them less brittle. A concrete block basement with flyash in the mix can be very durable. I've got one, 60 years old and I don't think it's ever had an issue.
 Quoting: Rosenkrantz


Makes sense. You can certainly break a concrete block fairly easily with a masonry hammer.
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Re: Strong cinder block home obliterated by Hurricane Michael
They found her body.

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