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RomanianGuy (OP) User ID: 76912989 Romania 10/12/2018 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The animation was supposed to show real-time telemetry data. Which was clearly not the case. Space agency BS. |
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Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint There's already a Soyuz docked to the station, the astronauts there are not stranded. They can return at any time using the capsule that brought them up. The hole in the Soyuz is in the orbital module, not the re-entry module. The orbital module is disposed of before re-entry anyway. |
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deplorable recollector User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 10/12/2018 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint There's already a Soyuz docked to the station, the astronauts there are not stranded. They can return at any time using the capsule that brought them up. The hole in the Soyuz is in the orbital module, not the re-entry module. The orbital module is disposed of before re-entry anyway. You mean that there is a CGI Soyuz docked to the International Fake Station, right? |
Wookiee666 User ID: 62421844 United States 10/12/2018 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint Try again. Do a tiny bit of 'research' regarding your stranded statement. No one is 'stranded'. Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
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RomanianGuy (OP) User ID: 76912989 Romania 10/12/2018 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint The point was that the telemetry animation continued to show what "should have been happening" instead of what was actually happening. |
Expose ALL Shills User ID: 42246379 United States 10/12/2018 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint Try again. Do a tiny bit of 'research' regarding your stranded statement. No one is 'stranded'. OP's point remains. The animation is BS. I wonder what life would be like if these space rackets did not steal trillions from hard working taxpayers around the world. All for crappy pics, composite pics, and moonrocks from Antarctica. What a joke live and die for Christ |
Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint The point was that the telemetry animation continued to show what "should have been happening" instead of what was actually happening. Because it wasn't telemetry, it's an animation. |
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RomanianGuy (OP) User ID: 76912989 Romania 10/12/2018 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint The point was that the telemetry animation continued to show what "should have been happening" instead of what was actually happening. Because it wasn't telemetry, it's an animation. No, it was presented as real telemetry data, only the Soyuz mishap revelead it to be fake animation. If that hadn't happened everyone would have presented it as "real data". Last Edited by RomanianGuy on 10/12/2018 04:35 PM |
Tui-Yeah User ID: 38361919 New Zealand 10/12/2018 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you have opened yourself up to be ridiculed by Naza Whores. So many believe in Space yet they haven't seen it with their own eyes hahahahahahahaha Quoting: Tui-Yeah NASA != Roscosmos. Different agencies with different approaches to showing info, or not showing info. so who cgi these mate? "Free-Will is a Blessing and a Curse" |
Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint The point was that the telemetry animation continued to show what "should have been happening" instead of what was actually happening. Because it wasn't telemetry, it's an animation. No, it was presented as real telemetry data, only the Soyuz mishap revelead it to be fake animation. You interpreted it that way, but it was an animation. I will point out that in the case of the Columbia accident, for instance, the shuttle's telemetry stopped moving after contact was lost. NASA is more transparent than many other national space agencies, and I don't really care if I get attacked for saying that. |
Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you have opened yourself up to be ridiculed by Naza Whores. So many believe in Space yet they haven't seen it with their own eyes hahahahahahahaha Quoting: Tui-Yeah NASA != Roscosmos. Different agencies with different approaches to showing info, or not showing info. so who cgi these mate? I took those myself. You just claimed I haven't seen it with my own eyes. |
Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint There's already a Soyuz docked to the station, the astronauts there are not stranded. They can return at any time using the capsule that brought them up. The hole in the Soyuz is in the orbital module, not the re-entry module. The orbital module is disposed of before re-entry anyway. You mean that there is a CGI Soyuz docked to the International Fake Station, right? My custom satellite tracking software will be ready soon. It's going to make you a very unhappy camper when it's ready. It will make tracking the very real International Space Station with a telescope as simple as point and click. I'm going to be working on it again this weekend. It will enable me to get closer and more stable video than ever before of the station. And best of all, I'll be releasing the source code to amateur astronomers everywhere, resulting in many more videos of ISS, even from people who've never tracked it before. I'm going to bury you in videos. |
RomanianGuy (OP) User ID: 76912989 Romania 10/12/2018 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RomanianGuy The point was that the telemetry animation continued to show what "should have been happening" instead of what was actually happening. Because it wasn't telemetry, it's an animation. No, it was presented as real telemetry data, only the Soyuz mishap revelead it to be fake animation. You interpreted it that way, but it was an animation. I will point out that in the case of the Columbia accident, for instance, the shuttle's telemetry stopped moving after contact was lost. NASA is more transparent than many other national space agencies, and I don't really care if I get attacked for saying that. Yes, but an animation that was presented as real data, which wasn't the case. Yes, this was the Russian space agency. And a SkyNews report. If this was misreprestened you should ask SkyNews about it. Last Edited by RomanianGuy on 10/12/2018 04:42 PM |
Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it was presented as real telemetry data, only the Soyuz mishap revelead it to be fake animation. You interpreted it that way, but it was an animation. I will point out that in the case of the Columbia accident, for instance, the shuttle's telemetry stopped moving after contact was lost. NASA is more transparent than many other national space agencies, and I don't really care if I get attacked for saying that. Yes, but an animation that was presented as real data, which wans't the case. Again, your interpretation. Different space agencies take different approaches, including pre-scripting all their callouts and data based on a nominal launch. Even private rockets are handled that way sometimes, with amusing results. Yes, this was the Russian space agency. Quoting: RomanianGlad you agree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67111927 United States 10/12/2018 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should titled this thread about how the ones in space are stranded. 1 rocket was all they had to take people up or down? Weak. Weak for all the money in the world wasted on spaces programs. Quoting: Gelprint There's already a Soyuz docked to the station, the astronauts there are not stranded. They can return at any time using the capsule that brought them up. The hole in the Soyuz is in the orbital module, not the re-entry module. The orbital module is disposed of before re-entry anyway. You mean that there is a CGI Soyuz docked to the International Fake Station, right? My custom satellite tracking software will be ready soon. It's going to make you a very unhappy camper when it's ready. It will make tracking the very real International Space Station with a telescope as simple as point and click. I'm going to be working on it again this weekend. It will enable me to get closer and more stable video than ever before of the station. And best of all, I'll be releasing the source code to amateur astronomers everywhere, resulting in many more videos of ISS, even from people who've never tracked it before. I'm going to bury you in videos. Dude, it's no use. They will come back with..."It's all holograms, projected into the sky" or whatever else. I find it entertaining to read, but it is pointless to try to convince people when they are firmly set in their beliefs. And right on for sharing your creation with everyone for free, that is pretty nice of you. |
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Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut There's already a Soyuz docked to the station, the astronauts there are not stranded. They can return at any time using the capsule that brought them up. The hole in the Soyuz is in the orbital module, not the re-entry module. The orbital module is disposed of before re-entry anyway. You mean that there is a CGI Soyuz docked to the International Fake Station, right? My custom satellite tracking software will be ready soon. It's going to make you a very unhappy camper when it's ready. It will make tracking the very real International Space Station with a telescope as simple as point and click. I'm going to be working on it again this weekend. It will enable me to get closer and more stable video than ever before of the station. And best of all, I'll be releasing the source code to amateur astronomers everywhere, resulting in many more videos of ISS, even from people who've never tracked it before. I'm going to bury you in videos. Dude, it's no use. They will come back with..."It's all holograms, projected into the sky" or whatever else. I find it entertaining to read, but it is pointless to try to convince people when they are firmly set in their beliefs. And right on for sharing your creation with everyone for free, that is pretty nice of you. To be fair, I fought the idea for a long time. I felt it should be at least shareware or something equivalent to it. Now I've seen the light though and thanks to some generous initial donations, I've decided to release it open source on github and just accept donations from anyone who finds it useful and wants to support further development. |
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RomanianGuy (OP) User ID: 76912989 Romania 10/12/2018 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RomanianGuy No, it was presented as real telemetry data, only the Soyuz mishap revelead it to be fake animation. You interpreted it that way, but it was an animation. I will point out that in the case of the Columbia accident, for instance, the shuttle's telemetry stopped moving after contact was lost. NASA is more transparent than many other national space agencies, and I don't really care if I get attacked for saying that. Yes, but an animation that was presented as real data, which wans't the case. Again, your interpretation. Different space agencies take different approaches, including pre-scripting all their callouts and data based on a nominal launch. Even private rockets are handled that way sometimes, with amusing results. No, not my interpretation, but what SkyNews clearly said. If you don't like that, take it out with them. |
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Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut You interpreted it that way, but it was an animation. I will point out that in the case of the Columbia accident, for instance, the shuttle's telemetry stopped moving after contact was lost. NASA is more transparent than many other national space agencies, and I don't really care if I get attacked for saying that. Yes, but an animation that was presented as real data, which wans't the case. Again, your interpretation. Different space agencies take different approaches, including pre-scripting all their callouts and data based on a nominal launch. Even private rockets are handled that way sometimes, with amusing results. No, not my interpretation, but what SkyNews clearly said. If you don't like that, take it out with them. No, it's objectively not telemetry, doesn't matter what you or SkyNews say. It's an animation. SkyNews said as much at 45 seconds. Is it goofy for a national space agency to be rolling a premade animation instead of showing real telemetry data? Yeah, but that's just my opinion and in any case you should go take that up with Roskcosmos. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/12/2018 05:24 PM |
RomanianGuy (OP) User ID: 76912989 Romania 10/12/2018 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RomanianGuy Yes, but an animation that was presented as real data, which wans't the case. Again, your interpretation. Different space agencies take different approaches, including pre-scripting all their callouts and data based on a nominal launch. Even private rockets are handled that way sometimes, with amusing results. No, not my interpretation, but what SkyNews clearly said. If you don't like that, take it out with them. No, it's objectively not telemetry, doesn't matter what you or SkyNews say. It's an animation. SkyNews said as much at 45 seconds. Is it goofy for a national space agency to be rolling a premade animation instead of showing real telemetry data? Yeah, but that's just my opinion and in any case you should go take that up with Roskcosmos. So a space agency shows bogus animation instead of real data but packages it as real data. Why are you even defending this? The Russian space agency was caught pandering BS animation. Last Edited by RomanianGuy on 10/12/2018 05:42 PM |
Dr. Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 10/12/2018 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut Again, your interpretation. Different space agencies take different approaches, including pre-scripting all their callouts and data based on a nominal launch. Even private rockets are handled that way sometimes, with amusing results. No, not my interpretation, but what SkyNews clearly said. If you don't like that, take it out with them. No, it's objectively not telemetry, doesn't matter what you or SkyNews say. It's an animation. SkyNews said as much at 45 seconds. Is it goofy for a national space agency to be rolling a premade animation instead of showing real telemetry data? Yeah, but that's just my opinion and in any case you should go take that up with Roskcosmos. So a space agency shows bogus animation instead of real data but packages it as real data. Why are you even defending this? The Russian space agency was caught pandering BS animation. I'm not defending anything, I'm just telling you it wasn't telemetry and even SkyNews admits that. I just said I didn't agree with their approach, but they're not my country's space agency. I don't get a say, neither do you. It's also not how NASA tends to handle things. Real telemetry was shown as Columbia was disintegrating, even as the crew was working through loss of hydraulic and pressure sensors. And when contact was lost... the marker for the shuttle's position stopped moving. Unfortunately that case was a loss of crew and vehicle, not just a loss of vehicle. Fortunately for Soyuz, the crew was recovered safely. |
AmericanPatriot33 User ID: 33718416 United States 10/12/2018 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a part of me that muses over the fact that Flat Earth had a lot of momentum before Trump and Q. Q is the real deal in my opinion but I think it had a duel purpose 1) drop the greatest intelligence dump that America has ever seen so so all of these people who were looking for answers became distracted, people were instantly sucked into the clock and dagger narrative and man oh man did people eat it up. 2) to to get people who were asking legitimate questions about space, our earth, gravity, our fake ass space program, and horrible CGI from NASA and SpaceX and co, to get distracted with something far more believable and likely. However the dumps Q has made legitimize space and the space program, sort of confirmed the case of Roswell, and tell people that its so secret they don't even have access to it. That strikes me as odd and the whole story continues to confirm know Lias and manipulation used to keep these ridiculous theories alive. IE: We went to the moon. No. We can go into space. NO. Gravity is easily provable. NO. All the math makes sense when you put crazy FE theories to a test. NO. The fact is Q and team saved woke people from further exploring something that is easily provable and makes a mockery of accepted facts. TPTB had no idea that people could even wrap their heads around it, let alone seek it out. It had the potential to upend a lot of apple carts. Q then came on the scene....this is of course just a musing. |
Expose ALL Shills User ID: 74123603 United States 10/12/2018 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut There's already a Soyuz docked to the station, the astronauts there are not stranded. They can return at any time using the capsule that brought them up. The hole in the Soyuz is in the orbital module, not the re-entry module. The orbital module is disposed of before re-entry anyway. You mean that there is a CGI Soyuz docked to the International Fake Station, right? My custom satellite tracking software will be ready soon. It's going to make you a very unhappy camper when it's ready. It will make tracking the very real International Space Station with a telescope as simple as point and click. I'm going to be working on it again this weekend. It will enable me to get closer and more stable video than ever before of the station. And best of all, I'll be releasing the source code to amateur astronomers everywhere, resulting in many more videos of ISS, even from people who've never tracked it before. I'm going to bury you in videos. Dude, it's no use. They will come back with..."It's all holograms, projected into the sky" or whatever else. I find it entertaining to read, but it is pointless to try to convince people when they are firmly set in their beliefs. And right on for sharing your creation with everyone for free, that is pretty nice of you. What is the 'use' of spending trillions for grainy pics and moonrocks which are identical to ones found on earth? What is the use and utility? live and die for Christ |