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S-300 in Syria, more complications
[link to uawire.org]

Looks like a surprise,as expected, Syrians have no trained people to take over Russia S-300's, not enough time.
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Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position.
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S-300 is easily defeated by Raytheon
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
S-300 is easily defeated by Raytheon
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maybe, I have not seen it yet.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
S-300 is easily defeated by Raytheon
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maybe, I have not seen it yet.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

my opinion is that Putin wants Israel to attack Syria with 5th generation planes, he needs to test thrir concepts with real targets. Not necessary fire on them but check if their system can reliably track the planes.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
S-300 is easily defeated by Raytheon
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maybe, I have not seen it yet.
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i have a video but I dont like to post these things

on websites that have 1000 russian, chinese and Iranian trolls
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how old is your info?
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Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

my opinion is that Putin wants Israel to attack Syria with 5th generation planes, he needs to test thrir concepts with real targets. Not necessary fire on them but check if their system can reliably track the planes.
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The S-300 is a known system (and two generations obsolete BTW) and Putin knows full well what will happen- ping a target you give away your location, your crew is dead.
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Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

my opinion is that Putin wants Israel to attack Syria with 5th generation planes, he needs to test thrir concepts with real targets. Not necessary fire on them but check if their system can reliably track the planes.
 Quoting: ole


The S-300 is a known system (and two generations obsolete BTW) and Putin knows full well what will happen- ping a target you give away your location, your crew is dead.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


it is very old system but it lived trough a few of modifications.
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S-300 is easily defeated by Raytheon
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maybe, I have not seen it yet.
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i have a video but I dont like to post these things

on websites that have 1000 russian, chinese and Iranian trolls
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how old is your info?
 Quoting: ole


2015/16

Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 10/12/2018 12:01 PM
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maybe, I have not seen it yet.
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i have a video but I dont like to post these things

on websites that have 1000 russian, chinese and Iranian trolls
 Quoting: jake


how old is your info?
 Quoting: ole


2015/16
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what I read they work on modifications as we speak. S-300 in Syria may be sacrificial units.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
this is an entire system with dozens of components

will fly in and take out an entire city filled with

S-300's
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
this is an entire system with dozens of components

will fly in and take out an entire city filled with

S-300's
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Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
this is an entire system with dozens of components

will fly in and take out an entire city filled with

S-300's
 Quoting: jake

Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests.
 Quoting: ole


That's a very cynical viewpoint, I like it. chuckle
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
this is an entire system with dozens of components

will fly in and take out an entire city filled with

S-300's
 Quoting: jake

Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests.
 Quoting: ole


That's a very cynical viewpoint, I like it. chuckle
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


what bothers me - India - they refuse SU-57 but shelled out over $5 Bil. for S-400. Russians had some selling points to demonstrate.
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Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position.
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Is not Russian soldiers!
Is mercenaries!

And no, you can't have any more, comrade Assad!

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Art of the Deal.

Sell the Middle East, both sides, weapons that they can't use.

Classic.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
this is an entire system with dozens of components

will fly in and take out an entire city filled with

S-300's
 Quoting: jake

Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests.
 Quoting: ole


That's a very cynical viewpoint, I like it. chuckle
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


what bothers me - India - they refuse SU-57 but shelled out over $5 Bil. for S-400. Russians had some selling points to demonstrate.
 Quoting: ole


India and Russia had a major falling out over the Sukhois so that's not a total surprise, the reasons why here: [link to www.rbth.com (secure)] but I would guess PM Modi's being assured by his people that Indias military industry can reverse engineer and improve the S-400 once they get their hands on them, that is just a guess though based on the Indian sense of national pride and desire to become a world class arms exporter.
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Is not Russian soldiers!
Is mercenaries!

And no, you can't have any more, comrade Assad!

We buried most of the 500 we sent you and the rest haven't recovered.
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the entire story is all very sick and dirty,,,
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
Art of the Deal.

Sell the Middle East, both sides, weapons that they can't use.

Classic.
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in the beginning was a US government invention of kerosene capable of melting steel...
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From my understanding is that the S-300s in Syria are not the same version as the S-300s tested in Greece by the Israeli and US aircraft, there has been major upgrades to the systems. Haven’t you noticed that Israel stopped all sorties into Syria.

I’ll try to find the link as it’s been a few days.
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Stick to facts. Israel has not attacked Syria in over 3 weeks. Why?
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
We have ways of defeating A2AD missile systems.

Launching a series of dummy missiles that are not intended to hit targets but rather to mimic flight / radar signatures of just about any friendly aircraft. This causes S300 / S400, etc.. to believe a real target is inbound and they give away their locations.

Behind these missiles are the real firepower to take care of the targets.

This video published by Raytheon describes the components of this overall battlefield system and how they work together to defeat the enemy.

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Stick to facts. Israel has not attacked Syria in over 3 weeks. Why?
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Probably something to do with ghosting that IL-20
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
From my understanding is that the S-300s in Syria are not the same version as the S-300s tested in Greece by the Israeli and US aircraft, there has been major upgrades to the systems. Haven’t you noticed that Israel stopped all sorties into Syria.

I’ll try to find the link as it’s been a few days.
 Quoting: Watcher of the End Game


that was a very old ( i believe late 90's) of S-300 version.
i've seen e few articles about this fact.
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
We have ways of defeating A2AD missile systems.

Launching a series of dummy missiles that are not intended to hit targets but rather to mimic flight / radar signatures of just about any friendly aircraft. This causes S300 / S400, etc.. to believe a real target is inbound and they give away their locations.

Behind these missiles are the real firepower to take care of the targets.

This video published by Raytheon describes the components of this overall battlefield system and how they work together to defeat the enemy.


 Quoting: Five-seveN1775


not a big probkem, think, 600 km detection range, 400 km strike reach for S-400.Technically decoys may not reach the system.
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Stick to facts. Israel has not attacked Syria in over 3 weeks. Why?
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because they understand that it is not worth risking. it is not worth showing Russians our capability so they can adjust their weapons.
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Stick to facts. Israel has not attacked Syria in over 3 weeks. Why?
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because they understand that it is not worth risking. it is not worth showing Russians our capability so they can adjust their weapons.
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Russians clearly understood the message. You fire we guide it. Don't fvck with this country we are all pretty crazy was the second message. They know we will do Iran if they continue to fvck around even though we dont want to do it.
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Art of the Deal.

Sell the Middle East, both sides, weapons that they can't use.

Classic.
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in the beginning was a US government invention of kerosene capable of melting steel...
 Quoting: ole


Thanks to Facebook spreading fear, now all you need is a crew of juggalos listening to ICP to topple the west.

You wouldn't even need a weapon. Just handout socks full batteries since the IDF took all the pennies
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Re: S-300 in Syria, more complications
Stick to facts. Israel has not attacked Syria in over 3 weeks. Why?
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because they understand that it is not worth risking. it is not worth showing Russians our capability so they can adjust their weapons.
 Quoting: ole


Russians clearly understood the message. You fire we guide it. Don't fvck with this country we are all pretty crazy was the second message. They know we will do Iran if they continue to fvck around even though we dont want to do it.
 Quoting: Aeon 5 Whoaa!


i really think that it is not about hurting Israel but about selling more weapons, it us all bs, it all to keep oil price high and sell weapons. Iran knows that
Israel can wipe it out. Also to keep sperm quality poor because of stress.





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