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Shiva ascendant User ID: 76086902 United States 10/12/2018 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but with a whimper. |
jake User ID: 76890717 United States 10/12/2018 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | S-300 is easily defeated by Raytheon Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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jake User ID: 76890717 United States 10/12/2018 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a video but I dont like to post these things on websites that have 1000 russian, chinese and Iranian trolls Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76496341 United States 10/12/2018 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position. Quoting: Shiva ascendant my opinion is that Putin wants Israel to attack Syria with 5th generation planes, he needs to test thrir concepts with real targets. Not necessary fire on them but check if their system can reliably track the planes. |
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Shiva ascendant User ID: 76086902 United States 10/12/2018 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position. Quoting: Shiva ascendant my opinion is that Putin wants Israel to attack Syria with 5th generation planes, he needs to test thrir concepts with real targets. Not necessary fire on them but check if their system can reliably track the planes. The S-300 is a known system (and two generations obsolete BTW) and Putin knows full well what will happen- ping a target you give away your location, your crew is dead. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but with a whimper. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76496341 United States 10/12/2018 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position. Quoting: Shiva ascendant my opinion is that Putin wants Israel to attack Syria with 5th generation planes, he needs to test thrir concepts with real targets. Not necessary fire on them but check if their system can reliably track the planes. The S-300 is a known system (and two generations obsolete BTW) and Putin knows full well what will happen- ping a target you give away your location, your crew is dead. it is very old system but it lived trough a few of modifications. |
jake User ID: 76890717 United States 10/12/2018 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a video but I dont like to post these things on websites that have 1000 russian, chinese and Iranian trolls how old is your info? 2015/16 Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 10/12/2018 12:01 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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jake User ID: 76890717 United States 10/12/2018 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is an entire system with dozens of components will fly in and take out an entire city filled with S-300's Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76496341 United States 10/12/2018 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is an entire system with dozens of components Quoting: jake will fly in and take out an entire city filled with S-300's Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests. |
Shiva ascendant User ID: 76086902 United States 10/12/2018 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is an entire system with dozens of components Quoting: jake will fly in and take out an entire city filled with S-300's Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests. That's a very cynical viewpoint, I like it. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but with a whimper. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76496341 United States 10/12/2018 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is an entire system with dozens of components Quoting: jake will fly in and take out an entire city filled with S-300's Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests. That's a very cynical viewpoint, I like it. what bothers me - India - they refuse SU-57 but shelled out over $5 Bil. for S-400. Russians had some selling points to demonstrate. |
wisconsin User ID: 76970251 United States 10/12/2018 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong time to be training crews on a new weapons system, buy the weapon and 'rent' an experienced crew. I can only believe that Assad knows that but Putin balked at putting more of his people in a sitting duck position. Quoting: Shiva ascendant . ... ... oh yeah ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
swamprat User ID: 34396491 United States 10/12/2018 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is not Russian soldiers! Is mercenaries! And no, you can't have any more, comrade Assad! We buried most of the 500 we sent you and the rest haven't recovered. We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans. |
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Shiva ascendant User ID: 76086902 United States 10/12/2018 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is an entire system with dozens of components Quoting: jake will fly in and take out an entire city filled with S-300's Russians repared their old junk from Russia and gave it to Syria for free. They operate it with Iranian men. Behind all this there are S-400 or higher with Russians watching the tests. That's a very cynical viewpoint, I like it. what bothers me - India - they refuse SU-57 but shelled out over $5 Bil. for S-400. Russians had some selling points to demonstrate. India and Russia had a major falling out over the Sukhois so that's not a total surprise, the reasons why here: [link to www.rbth.com (secure)] but I would guess PM Modi's being assured by his people that Indias military industry can reverse engineer and improve the S-400 once they get their hands on them, that is just a guess though based on the Indian sense of national pride and desire to become a world class arms exporter. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but with a whimper. |
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Watcher of the End Game User ID: 76671416 United States 10/12/2018 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From my understanding is that the S-300s in Syria are not the same version as the S-300s tested in Greece by the Israeli and US aircraft, there has been major upgrades to the systems. Haven’t you noticed that Israel stopped all sorties into Syria. I’ll try to find the link as it’s been a few days. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75681556 United States 10/12/2018 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have ways of defeating A2AD missile systems. Launching a series of dummy missiles that are not intended to hit targets but rather to mimic flight / radar signatures of just about any friendly aircraft. This causes S300 / S400, etc.. to believe a real target is inbound and they give away their locations. Behind these missiles are the real firepower to take care of the targets. This video published by Raytheon describes the components of this overall battlefield system and how they work together to defeat the enemy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75451639 United States 10/12/2018 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From my understanding is that the S-300s in Syria are not the same version as the S-300s tested in Greece by the Israeli and US aircraft, there has been major upgrades to the systems. Haven’t you noticed that Israel stopped all sorties into Syria. Quoting: Watcher of the End Game I’ll try to find the link as it’s been a few days. that was a very old ( i believe late 90's) of S-300 version. i've seen e few articles about this fact. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75451639 United States 10/12/2018 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have ways of defeating A2AD missile systems. Quoting: Five-seveN1775 Launching a series of dummy missiles that are not intended to hit targets but rather to mimic flight / radar signatures of just about any friendly aircraft. This causes S300 / S400, etc.. to believe a real target is inbound and they give away their locations. Behind these missiles are the real firepower to take care of the targets. This video published by Raytheon describes the components of this overall battlefield system and how they work together to defeat the enemy. not a big probkem, think, 600 km detection range, 400 km strike reach for S-400.Technically decoys may not reach the system. |
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Aeon 5 Whoaa! User ID: 76970163 Israel 10/12/2018 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because they understand that it is not worth risking. it is not worth showing Russians our capability so they can adjust their weapons. Russians clearly understood the message. You fire we guide it. Don't fvck with this country we are all pretty crazy was the second message. They know we will do Iran if they continue to fvck around even though we dont want to do it. “THE LIPS OF WISDOM ARE CLOSED, EXCEPT TO THE EARS OF UNDERSTANDING” Kybalion |
19th Hole User ID: 70971965 United States 10/12/2018 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Art of the Deal. Quoting: MissCleo Sell the Middle East, both sides, weapons that they can't use. Classic. in the beginning was a US government invention of kerosene capable of melting steel... Thanks to Facebook spreading fear, now all you need is a crew of juggalos listening to ICP to topple the west. You wouldn't even need a weapon. Just handout socks full batteries since the IDF took all the pennies |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75451639 United States 10/12/2018 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because they understand that it is not worth risking. it is not worth showing Russians our capability so they can adjust their weapons. Russians clearly understood the message. You fire we guide it. Don't fvck with this country we are all pretty crazy was the second message. They know we will do Iran if they continue to fvck around even though we dont want to do it. i really think that it is not about hurting Israel but about selling more weapons, it us all bs, it all to keep oil price high and sell weapons. Iran knows that Israel can wipe it out. Also to keep sperm quality poor because of stress. |