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Unclelunatic

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My inner speech sounds much like Morgan Freeman
 Quoting: Unclelunatic


It does now

morgan
 Quoting: T-Man


Mine always had, I purchased the plug in about 10 years ago.

I still don't buy that people don't have inner speech, how does anyone make any decisions? How do they even find a job?
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my inner voice and my regular voice do not sound the same.

I hate hearing my regular voice played back to me.
 Quoting: burneracct


That's why everyone thinks they sound funny when their own voice is played back to them.

You have never seen your own face. Only photographs or a reflection..

To equate that some people don't have a soul with this clearly bs article..is rather to sad to see.


They say the Guf is full of souls and when the Guf is empty, the Apocalypse starts. AKA the first baby born without a soul..
 Quoting: Seer777


My daughter had a NDE when she died 3 times in 2005. One of the things she said had puzzled me until now. She was told that all the souls that would or could be born were already here on earth. Didn’t make sense with the world population growing unless....damned
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Wow.

Did she choose to have children?
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes

She also “returned” with a firm belief in reincarnation.
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or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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If you have "inner speech" you might need to see a psychiatrist.
 Quoting: ^Mutariel^


That was my thought when I read the article.

Probably most of the psychologists subjects didn't want to be labeled schizophrenic.

But that wont stop the psychologists from publishing by all means necessary.
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I was thinking exactly this and that the cyclic reset occurs when there are no more souls.

Then I read your post.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I was a preschool teacher for many years and took care of many youngsters of various backgrounds. They all had souls and were unique in their own way, while still being..little people.

We all go through pretty set stages while we mature. Some just don't have the restraint necessary, to have total command over their emotions.

We do keep getting greater and greater in number..if there is a finite amount of souls..one could deduce we will run out if something doesn't stop the growth.

It is slowing.
 Quoting: Seer777

And as the world's population has grown, perhaps fifty years ago 80% had this inner voice. If our numbers have not changed but populations grew then the ratio would have changed.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


World literacy has never been better. How can people read without 'hearing' the words as the go?

Doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: Seer777


intelligence isn't based upon population or literacy. It's in the DNA.

so all these dumbasses breeding all over the world keep it at a steady 80%.
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I was thinking exactly this and that the cyclic reset occurs when there are no more souls.

Then I read your post.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I was a preschool teacher for many years and took care of many youngsters of various backgrounds. They all had souls and were unique in their own way, while still being..little people.

We all go through pretty set stages while we mature. Some just don't have the restraint necessary, to have total command over their emotions.

We do keep getting greater and greater in number..if there is a finite amount of souls..one could deduce we will run out if something doesn't stop the growth.

It is slowing.
 Quoting: Seer777

And as the world's population has grown, perhaps fifty years ago 80% had this inner voice. If our numbers have not changed but populations grew then the ratio would have changed.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


World literacy has never been better. How can people read without 'hearing' the words as the go?

Doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: Seer777


AI can read without an inner voice
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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They don't, and then they vote Democrat. I have this theory about why Democrats are found by coastal cities and waterways and it involves brain eating amoebas.
 Quoting: guests


Or algae toxin that makes people dumber, it exists, and did so well they feed it to our domestic herds.
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If you have "inner speech" you might need to see a psychiatrist.
 Quoting: ^Mutariel^


That was my thought when I read the article.

Probably most of the psychologists subjects didn't want to be labeled schizophrenic.

But that wont stop the psychologists from publishing by all means necessary.
 Quoting: ~+ <3 +~


I call it 'inner dialogue'

I do not think it's a symptom of mental disease of any kind, how else could one evaluate the world and make decisions?
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I'm blown away to find out this is true.
 Quoting: burneracct


Obviously it is not. Just because they tell you it is means nothing. Reading the posts in this thread alone tells you it is BS. Stop believing the lies. Bigger motive here. Most of what we are told these days is crap. Think for yourself. Just because some libtards tell you something does not mean it is true.
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In the mid-70s a book called 'The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind' by psychologist Julain Janes was popular among serious readers as well as psychologists. The official website says this about it:

"At the heart of this book is the revolutionary idea that human consciousness did not begin far back in animal evolution but is a learned process brought into being out of an earlier hallucinatory mentality by cataclysm and catastrophe only 3,000 years ago and still developing. The implications of this new scientific paradigm extend into virtually every aspect of our psychology, our history and culture, our religion - and indeed, our future. In the words of one reviewer, it is "a humbling text, the kind that reminds most of us who make our livings through thinking, how much thinking there is left to do."

* * *
Presents a theory of the bicameral mind which holds that ancient peoples could not "think" as we do today and were therefore "unconscious," a result of the domination of the right hemisphere; only catastrophe forced mankind to "learn" consciousness, a product of human history and culture and one that issues from the brain's left hemisphere. Three forms of human awareness, the bicameral or god-run man; the modern or problem-solving man; and contemporary forms of throwbacks to bicamerality (e.g., religious frenzy, hypnotism, and schizophrenia) are examined in terms of the physiology of the brain and how it applies to human psychology, culture, and history."
[link to www.julianjaynes.org]

Being a 'word thinker' primarily, I struggled with the idea that people could go through life never thinking in words, or being incapable of critical analysis.

But I believe that several key concepts surfaced in the 70s concerning the nature of consciousness, thought, motivation and other mind activity. The book by Jaynes and Marshall McCluhan's The Medium is the Message (also popular at that time), I believe were mined for their ideas and potential applications by some smart but amoral people in power to be exploited in the control of the masses. Along with these ideas, toss in the lessons learned from Nazi propaganda techniques and Chinese brainwashing techniques from the Korean War, and an arsenal of lethal weapons against the masses takes shape. Ordinary people are fish in a barrel. You can see the results.

Ordinary people are not innately dumb. In the late 1800s. people were reading the works of Charles Dickens as popular serials in popular magazines. By the late 1990s, these works were not even read by college students, who instead were taught to read 'analysis' of the works and the author.

If people can be taught or trained to think in words, they can also be untaught. Young people have been trained to think with their emotions and gain their ideas about reality from uncritical viewing of the TV set and computer monitor.

Am I too far off?

Marshall McCluhan speaks to an audience on The Medium is the Message:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Julian Jaynes book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind:
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

Jacques Ellul
Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
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That's why everyone thinks they sound funny when their own voice is played back to them.

You have never seen your own face. Only photographs or a reflection..

To equate that some people don't have a soul with this clearly bs article..is rather to sad to see.


They say the Guf is full of souls and when the Guf is empty, the Apocalypse starts. AKA the first baby born without a soul..
 Quoting: Seer777


My daughter had a NDE when she died 3 times in 2005. One of the things she said had puzzled me until now. She was told that all the souls that would or could be born were already here on earth. Didn’t make sense with the world population growing unless....damned
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Wow.

Did she choose to have children?
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes

She also “returned” with a firm belief in reincarnation.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


She reasoned it then, that we are all just recycled?

Samsara?
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This can't possibly be true. Is there anyone on this board that doesn't have an inner voice? Or is the fact that we're on this board proof of having an inner voice in the first place?
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I'm blown away to find out this is true.
 Quoting: burneracct


How can you possibly think without the inner voice? Sure, the brain controls all motor functions without the voice, but all critical and mundane thoughts are done by the inner voice, at least for me. I find this study very hard to believe. Are 80% of the population zombies, or window dressing for the 20%? This would explain the people you run into every day, and you wonder how they even manage to get out of bed in the morning, they are soooo stupid.
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I was thinking exactly this and that the cyclic reset occurs when there are no more souls.

Then I read your post.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I was a preschool teacher for many years and took care of many youngsters of various backgrounds. They all had souls and were unique in their own way, while still being..little people.

We all go through pretty set stages while we mature. Some just don't have the restraint necessary, to have total command over their emotions.

We do keep getting greater and greater in number..if there is a finite amount of souls..one could deduce we will run out if something doesn't stop the growth.

It is slowing.
 Quoting: Seer777

And as the world's population has grown, perhaps fifty years ago 80% had this inner voice. If our numbers have not changed but populations grew then the ratio would have changed.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


World literacy has never been better. How can people read without 'hearing' the words as the go?

Doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: Seer777


Because it is a lie. Isnt this obvious? Seems it is not to GLP'ers. Come on guys. It is obvious BS.
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They don't, and then they vote Democrat. I have this theory about why Democrats are found by coastal cities and waterways and it involves brain eating amoebas.
 Quoting: guests


Or algae toxin that makes people dumber, it exists, and did so well they feed it to our domestic herds.
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Again look up Gnostic warrior, he explains all the crazies in california, Portland oregon, Florida etc, it's a coastal brain amoeba. Thank God our forefathers created the electoral college
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I was a preschool teacher for many years and took care of many youngsters of various backgrounds. They all had souls and were unique in their own way, while still being..little people.

We all go through pretty set stages while we mature. Some just don't have the restraint necessary, to have total command over their emotions.

We do keep getting greater and greater in number..if there is a finite amount of souls..one could deduce we will run out if something doesn't stop the growth.

It is slowing.
 Quoting: Seer777

And as the world's population has grown, perhaps fifty years ago 80% had this inner voice. If our numbers have not changed but populations grew then the ratio would have changed.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


World literacy has never been better. How can people read without 'hearing' the words as the go?

Doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: Seer777


Because it is a lie. Isnt this obvious? Seems it is not to GLP'ers. Come on guys. It is obvious BS. Even as we type we use our inner voice, impossible without.
 Quoting: BrancoX
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It is frightening, especially in light of the increasing violence we see. These people have no fear of consequences, and no self restraint. Immediate action/reaction, no consideration of immediate consequences, let alone long term.

They are dangerous as hell when corralled into a hive mind herd.
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YES!

zombies.
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If you have "inner speech" you might need to see a psychiatrist.
 Quoting: ^Mutariel^


That was my thought when I read the article.

Probably most of the psychologists subjects didn't want to be labeled schizophrenic.

But that wont stop the psychologists from publishing by all means necessary.
 Quoting: ~+ <3 +~


I call it 'inner dialogue'

I do not think it's a symptom of mental disease of any kind, how else could one evaluate the world and make decisions?
 Quoting: Unclelunatic


Absolutely.

The inner dialogue is certainly not mental illness or hallucinatory voices of the psychotic. It is the means of introspection, critical analysis, situational awarenrss, planning, and many other critical human activities.
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Doesn't everyone experience this every time they read something?
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AI can read without an inner voice
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


YES!
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I was a preschool teacher for many years and took care of many youngsters of various backgrounds. They all had souls and were unique in their own way, while still being..little people.

We all go through pretty set stages while we mature. Some just don't have the restraint necessary, to have total command over their emotions.

We do keep getting greater and greater in number..if there is a finite amount of souls..one could deduce we will run out if something doesn't stop the growth.

It is slowing.
 Quoting: Seer777

And as the world's population has grown, perhaps fifty years ago 80% had this inner voice. If our numbers have not changed but populations grew then the ratio would have changed.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


World literacy has never been better. How can people read without 'hearing' the words as the go?

Doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: Seer777


Because it is a lie. Isnt this obvious? Seems it is not to GLP'ers. Come on guys. It is obvious BS.
 Quoting: BrancoX


I agree.

Although I tend to think one needs to exercise and teach their inner dialogue in order for it to get stronger and more effecient

Some people watch too much TV and could potentially destroy most of its cognitive ability and only have such inner dialogue like "Me hungry" or "What is on TV tonight?" or "Smrt peeple tllz me 2 hatez tumpsz so me hatz the prezz, hahaha"
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My inner speech sounds much like Morgan Freeman
 Quoting: Unclelunatic


That would be pretty cool.

My inner speech sounds a lot like my self perceived voice. I suppose I can change it for short periods of time, make it sound like James Earl Jones or something, but I'd have to try to make that happen.

Can someone post a GLP poll of hearing inner voice or not? I'd suspect the percentage to be close to 100%. I find OP's claim dubious, but if true, would prove NPCs exist.
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my inner voice and my regular voice do not sound the same.

I hate hearing my regular voice played back to me.
 Quoting: burneracct


That's why everyone thinks they sound funny when their own voice is played back to them.

You have never seen your own face. Only photographs or a reflection..

To equate that some people don't have a soul with this clearly bs article..is rather to sad to see.


They say the Guf is full of souls and when the Guf is empty, the Apocalypse starts. AKA the first baby born without a soul..
 Quoting: Seer777


My daughter had a NDE when she died 3 times in 2005. One of the things she said had puzzled me until now. She was told that all the souls that would or could be born were already here on earth. Didn’t make sense with the world population growing unless....damned
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Wow.

Did she choose to have children?
 Quoting: Seer777

yea i posted about this earlier.
ive heard on different occasions that theres way more people than actual souls.
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If you have "inner speech" you might need to see a psychiatrist.
 Quoting: ^Mutariel^


That was my thought when I read the article.

Probably most of the psychologists subjects didn't want to be labeled schizophrenic.

But that wont stop the psychologists from publishing by all means necessary.
 Quoting: ~+ <3 +~


I call it 'inner dialogue'

I do not think it's a symptom of mental disease of any kind, how else could one evaluate the world and make decisions?
 Quoting: Unclelunatic


Absolutely.

The inner dialogue is certainly not mental illness or hallucinatory voices of the psychotic. It is the means of introspection, critical analysis, situational awarenrss, planning, and many other critical human activities.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Or perhaps; consciousness
...If you will

I don't know how anyone would learn a skill, remember a fact, or anything without any inner dialogue

This is why I enjoy sitting in a sauna, no distractions, just peace and my own thoughts
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If you have "inner speech" you might need to see a psychiatrist.
 Quoting: ^Mutariel^


That was my thought when I read the article.

Probably most of the psychologists subjects didn't want to be labeled schizophrenic.

But that wont stop the psychologists from publishing by all means necessary.
 Quoting: ~+ <3 +~


I call it 'inner dialogue'

I do not think it's a symptom of mental disease of any kind, how else could one evaluate the world and make decisions?
 Quoting: Unclelunatic


I am simply saying that the psychologists make the response to be what they want it to be.

To serve whatever purpose they have.

If they want people to think there are people who are without souls, or walking robot slaves, or whatever, you know it's coming from Satan.

Or at least the people interpreting it are.

Even every one of the animals I've known have beautiful souls.
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still weird to me..
because when i moved to another country people did ask me whether i think in german still or in dutch yet.
so those people know about inner speech?
 Quoting: T-Man


FREAKEDe me right out the first few times I began to THINK in another language.

NOT TEACHING LANGUAGES in US schools blunted a lot of mental ability IMHO

List which countries REQUIRE languages...
 Quoting: Theobromine The Deplorable


heyyyy come on the only reason i learned another one was because i moved to another country and had to. and with the internet around i just HAD to learn english. so i did that by myself.

im sure you can learn different languages in the USA easy while in school.
and it did teach me a lot about some stuff.. like knowing german has way more and more detailed words than dutch or english. and seeing how some languages got rid of problems.
like in german theres DER (friend) DIE (school) DAS (house). male, female, thing.
in english everything is THE (friend/school/house)
in dutch theres DE and HET which is like personal/unpersonal but theres not even a way to learn it other then learning it per word pretty much. so DE(school) and HET (house)

which also showed me how language can be really dangerous. or how translation can be missing crucial points.

but it would be cool if everyone just spoke english.
no one wants a finish movie with subtitles...

but even with just 1 language thered still be wars over interpretation or said words.
 Quoting: T-Man


As far as I know German may be the most SPECIFIC language-giving them an advantage -especially when it comes to engineering and sciences. France was the premier country and language for ENGINEERING centuries ago.

Did you ever watch a subtitled RUSSIAN movie? It takes the guy a few seconds to walk up and wave - then five minutes of dialogue to get to "hello"...(exaggerating). I think this in itself held their development back because the language is cumbersome.

Japanese sounds like a cross between German guttural sounds and Asian vowel articulations...may be the most specific for Asia - and help them a lot.

Chinese is hampered with a 3000 character alphabet...tough to type - but VERY DETAILED for kindergarteners to master...

I believe certain gifts and talents can be traced back to a people's LANGUAGE heritage...and it just BLOSSOMED when many of them moved to the US and learned English and added their own words and descriptions...we have the languages of the world all cross-pollinated and evolved due to out melting-pot culture.

I used to be able to read Carlos Castenada in Spanish...a gifted and talented imagination and storyteller.I wonder if that is a part of the heritage?

The point is - does the LANGUAGE of your inner voice affect how well you can THINK?

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My inner speech sounds much like Morgan Freeman
 Quoting: Unclelunatic


That would be pretty cool.

My inner speech sounds a lot like my self perceived voice. I suppose I can change it for short periods of time, make it sound like James Earl Jones or something, but I'd have to try to make that happen.

Can someone post a GLP poll of hearing inner voice or not? I'd suspect the percentage to be close to 100%. I find OP's claim dubious, but if true, would prove NPCs exist.
 Quoting: The DarkShadow


Practice!

If you think enough in one voice, that will be the voice you hear

Do you think people who know more than one language think in all the languages?
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My daughter had a NDE when she died 3 times in 2005. One of the things she said had puzzled me until now. She was told that all the souls that would or could be born were already here on earth. Didn’t make sense with the world population growing unless....damned
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Wow.

Did she choose to have children?
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes

She also “returned” with a firm belief in reincarnation.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


She reasoned it then, that we are all just recycled?

Samsara?
 Quoting: Seer777


Reincarnation is neither recycling or samsara.
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And just underneath is the "still small voice" a very subtle guide if one can hear it.
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The ratio is obvious on GLP.

Romper Room with a dash of intelligence.
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Anyone who has ever asked a question has inner speech and reasoning. The make believe study is a lie to support the evolutionary THEORY that monkey see monkey do but Jesus Christ died for everyone and we are all created in his image.

When I had demons I thought a lot more than I do now. I love when I am not aware that I'm thinking. When I have no thoughts is when I am at the most peave.

Another way to prove this stupid bullshit that is being pushed and believed among the ignorant is b.s. is the fact that most these people are typing away their inner dialogue and reasoning.

Y'all stupid for believing this. Me thinks you just like to hate on ignorant people if they aren't your own family.
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