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State Tells Christian Filmmakers: Make Same-Sex Marriage Films or 90 Days in Jail | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77036741  Switzerland10/16/2018 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fantastic. Quoting: Accidental Stoner  Born in Finland, 1963. Couldn't, wouldn't have guessed in a trillion years, that before my 55th birthday, the U.S. would look more like the Soviet Union than Russia does. Fascinating, the way just about everything plays out pretty much exactly like the worst tinfoil hatters always said it would. True, same thing in Europe, no? Yes. The pushers of the agenda act global. Guess why they hate Trump and Putin so much... |
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| horticulture User ID: 76409568 United States10/16/2018 10:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the film makers will prevail because of the Minnesota State Constitution: "Sec. 16. Freedom of conscience; no preference to be given to any religious establishment or mode of worship. The enumeration of rights in this constitution shall not deny or impair others retained by and inherent in the people. The right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience shall never be infringed; nor shall any man be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any religious or ecclesiastical ministry, against his consent; nor shall any control of or interference with the rights of conscience be permitted, or any preference be given by law to any religious establishment or mode of worship; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the state, nor shall any money be drawn from the treasury for the benefit of any religious societies or religious or theological seminaries." [link to www.revisor.mn.gov (secure)] Isn't forcing the film makers to participate in sinful and vile acts during film making, totally against the way they want to worship their God,exactly what the State Constitution prohibits? Constitution trumps state laws. Film makers win. Last Edited by Horticulture on 10/16/2018 10:25 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76496341 United States10/16/2018 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW,,,IN THE USA! Quoting: christian Two Christian filmmakers will appear before the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Paul Tuesday to challenge Minnesota state law which they say illegally forces them to produce and create films expressing messages that contradict their core beliefs. Telescope Media Group owners Carl and Angel Larsen have already been threatened with hefty fines and up to 90 days in jail if they choose to disregard the law. The couple is being represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF). The Larsens want to enter the wedding industry. However, the state's Human Rights Act stipulates if the couple creates films celebrating their Christian beliefs about marriage – that marriage is between one man and one woman, they must also create films about marriage that violate their beliefs, including films promoting same-sex marriages. "The government shouldn't threaten filmmakers with fines and jail time to force them to create films that violate their beliefs," said ADF Senior Counsel Jeremy Tedesco in a press release. "Carl and Angel are storytellers – they script, stage, conduct interviews, capture footage, select music, edit and more – all to tell compelling stories through film that promote their religious beliefs." [link to www1.cbn.com] is this a very similar story: Jun 4, 2018 · Washington (CNN) The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who refused to bake a cake ... |
| Sikhed User ID: 5898996 United States10/16/2018 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They want to force a business to produce what they demand and that takes up their production time against their will? Quoting: Wondering Mind So then it becomes State ran and controlled business rights minus individual rights. The State does not own the business. Correct. That is socialism and communism. :doom360: |
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| Misspurrrrrect User ID: 15572297 United States10/16/2018 11:31 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the film makers will prevail because of the Minnesota State Constitution: Quoting: horticulture "Sec. 16. Freedom of conscience; no preference to be given to any religious establishment or mode of worship. The enumeration of rights in this constitution shall not deny or impair others retained by and inherent in the people. The right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience shall never be infringed; nor shall any man be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any religious or ecclesiastical ministry, against his consent; nor shall any control of or interference with the rights of conscience be permitted, or any preference be given by law to any religious establishment or mode of worship; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the state, nor shall any money be drawn from the treasury for the benefit of any religious societies or religious or theological seminaries." [link to www.revisor.mn.gov (secure)] Isn't forcing the film makers to participate in sinful and vile acts during film making, totally against the way they want to worship their God,exactly what the State Constitution prohibits? Constitution trumps state laws. Film makers win. What is the fastest growing "religion" in Minnesota right now??? What danger is there to the state constitution from representatives of the "religion" and which "religion" wants to usurp the way this Constitution is constructed and the Gov's representation of the people? Who do you think is behind this crap and who is being used to facilitate the unconstitutional activities? They may not necessarily be one and the same. This world takeover and the prerequisite destruction of culture, tradition, faith, rule of law, MARRIAGE, family, education, safety, prosperity ... and on and on ......... is a somewhat complex thing. People need to choose a side and defend it. Unfortunately, at least 2 and probably 3 generations of children have been turned into academic and social idiots .... and the defense of that side is ferocious! The strong and malicious will always use the weak and less prepared (thank you public schools) as useful idiots to fulfill their agenda. Those willing to fight for their rights and freedoms (Christian filmmakers) need support. Their fight is the same as all others'. Do you want to live in 1984? Or not? |
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| Timur2020 User ID: 72861741 United States10/17/2018 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They could always make a same-sex marriage movie, and at the end they all go to hell. Quoting: Zedakah Complain to the stupid moslums and let them be good for something "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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| Mathetes 2.0 User ID: 70130253 United States10/17/2018 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, someone needs to explain this to me because I am totally confused? "Minnesota tells Christian filmmakers: Make Same-Sex Marriage films or spend 90 Days in jail". Side-note: I really don't care for so-called Christian bakers etc refusing to do something for a gay couple, to me if you're really a Christian you should do the task & preach them the Gospel, maybe God sent them to you so they could hear it, maybe for the 1st time, but instead these so-called Christians dish out hate. So with that said, this story has me puzzled, it seems no one is asking them to do anything, but the State demands they make a film about same-sex couples? Am I missing something? Be strong, be of good courage, God bless America & long live the republic. . |
| Stan Darsh User ID: 2532392 United States10/17/2018 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They love to play up this whole gays versus Christians thing. Homosexuality is never mentioned but one or two places in the Bible and it's placed beside the whole list of other bad things. Homosexuals obsessed about Christianity 1 billion times more than Christians obsess about homosexuality. |
| Rosenkrantz User ID: 76996773 United States10/17/2018 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My reading of SCOTUS' "Masterpiece Cakeshop" ruling is that Minnesota is violating it here. An artist cannot be required to make creative works celebrating something that goes against his beliefs, because that is a violation of his freedom of speech, his right against compelled speech, saying things he disagrees with. |
| Mathetes 2.0 User ID: 70130253 United States10/17/2018 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They love to play up this whole gays versus Christians thing. Quoting: Stan Darsh Homosexuality is never mentioned but one or two places in the Bible and it's placed beside the whole list of other bad things. Homosexuals obsessed about Christianity 1 billion times more than Christians obsess about homosexuality. Very true! I do realize that gays target Christian bakers etc ...but what an opportunity to preach the Gospel! To some very lost folks. I guarantee if one of these shop owners agreed to do the task & preached non-stop about Jesus, these gay people would run out of the shop & say never mind! Be strong, be of good courage, God bless America & long live the republic. . |
| Question EVERYTHING Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 77023229 United States10/17/2018 12:48 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW,,,IN THE USA! Quoting: christian Two Christian filmmakers will appear before the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Paul Tuesday to challenge Minnesota state law which they say illegally forces them to produce and create films expressing messages that contradict their core beliefs. Telescope Media Group owners Carl and Angel Larsen have already been threatened with hefty fines and up to 90 days in jail if they choose to disregard the law. The couple is being represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF). The Larsens want to enter the wedding industry. However, the state's Human Rights Act stipulates if the couple creates films celebrating their Christian beliefs about marriage – that marriage is between one man and one woman, they must also create films about marriage that violate their beliefs, including films promoting same-sex marriages. "The government shouldn't threaten filmmakers with fines and jail time to force them to create films that violate their beliefs," said ADF Senior Counsel Jeremy Tedesco in a press release. "Carl and Angel are storytellers – they script, stage, conduct interviews, capture footage, select music, edit and more – all to tell compelling stories through film that promote their religious beliefs." [link to www1.cbn.com] It always comes down to corrupting our souls... First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 51177931 United States10/17/2018 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They love to play up this whole gays versus Christians thing. Quoting: Stan Darsh Homosexuality is never mentioned but one or two places in the Bible and it's placed beside the whole list of other bad things. Homosexuals obsessed about Christianity 1 billion times more than Christians obsess about homosexuality. Mastrubating on the ground is worse. |
| The ring of truth User ID: 76659380  Canada10/17/2018 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Corinthians 6:9 ► Verse (Chapter ▾) SUM ▾ PIC ▾ XRF ▾ New International Version Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men New Living Translation Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, English Standard Version Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, Berean Study Bible Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, Berean Literal Bible Or do you not know that the unrighteous ones will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND! Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH! Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON... ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS! |
| The ring of truth User ID: 76659380 Canada10/17/2018 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll tell the state to go fuck themselves.. I'm not going to piss off... God 2 Timothy 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV) 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Means every single word. Last Edited by The ring of truth on 10/17/2018 01:17 AM TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND! Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH! Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON... ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS! |
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| WHEN DOES THE BS EVER END? User ID: 76618422 United States10/17/2018 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Fear none of those things which you shall suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that you may be tried." Revelation 2:10 ~ If you are not paranoid, you are not paying attention ~ ~ To act without clear understanding, to form habits without investigation, to follow a path all one's life without knowing where it really leads... Such is the behavior of the multitude ~ ~ He in whom the fear of sin comes before wisdom, his wisdom will endure; but he in whom wisdom comes before the fear of sin, his wisdom will not endure ~ |
| thinking... User ID: 77024359 United States10/17/2018 02:25 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Things just keep getting more absurd and outrageous. That's how Marxism works, though. They want to destroy the constitution and all freedom. Will Minnesota next demand Christian authors write homo books? It's so ridiculous as to seem impossible but MN is full of leftists who imported cretin Somalis because MN was too peaceful and white. Fuck these people. Last Edited by thinking... on 10/17/2018 02:26 AM In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| SpringLeak User ID: 75632946 United States10/17/2018 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MAKE MOVIES OF THE JUDGE GETTING GAY-RAPED AND MARRIED TO A PIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEN BILL HIM FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last Edited by SpringLeak on 10/17/2018 02:34 AM SpamSpamSignatureSpamSpam Force Ghost Void God Zombie Wookie King From Beyond The Stars - Also I'm modest and understated. "Those who know, don't teach. Those who teach, are fucking with you." "When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift "Whenever possible be more compassionate. It is always possible to be more compassionate." "Four hearts combined are one." "There is a reason we use brains for thinking and concrete for sidewalks." "God is love. All you need is love...and GALAXY BLASTING SPACE WEAPONS." (I knew there was something wrong with this one, it just took me a while to figure it out) "Women are evil, men are dumb, somebody pissed in the beer." "The thing about smart people is: they seem like crazy people... to dumb people." "He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt he who is doing it." "Humanity has driven off the cliff, now the military is holding their hands over our eyes so we don't see the ground coming." "Some of what you read is wrong because the people who wrote it also did not have a very good education and were groping around in the dark when they wrote it. Lets thank them for trying because without people like them we would have a lot more groping to do in a much darker world" |
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