Jesus Christ claiming to be the Father God Almighty in his own words in 2 verses

Nope. Wrong.

God was NOT EVER born.

His SON was though. Twice actually. Once as firstborn of creation...then again into human flesh.

How were folks in OT times redeemed?

Repentance.

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Repentance worded differently

Isaiah 1

16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 10/31/2018 12:52 AM

What's absurd is the notion that Jesus is the Father when Jesus CLEARLY STATES that He is NOT the Father.

Being "sent" is but ONE reason Jesus is NOT the Father. Go back and read ALL that I have posted for the rest. I'm not going to repeat what I've already said.

Jesus IS denying that He isn't good by SAYING "only the Father is good". He says that because He IS NOT the Father.

My God you people are stiff-necked.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Jesus was NOT in the Garden of Eden. God Yahuah was.

AND God kicked them OUT of Eden. That's not humble.

You choose John 8:45 BUT OVERLOOK what Jesus stated CLEARLY 3 verses previously

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

i have read to much of your crap your like trying to talk to a Jehovah witness . where does Jesus CLEARLY STATES that He is NOT the Father. using capitals does not make you right....there is no context in that verse he is denying he is the father he is asking why he calls him good . because he is either god or he is not you choose he is not Christians choose he is

who is yahuah kinda sounds like a party. god walked in the garden,like with his feet. molded clay with his hands breathed with his mouth,sounds like a man

God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three unique beings. God is Heavenly Father, Jesus is the Christ. The Holy Ghost is a Christ but NOT thee Christ who atoned for man. They are ALL God because they are ONE in spirit, purpose and mission.

You mockingly asked one can't see electricity but ask you have you not seen lightning?...

God is Jesus. The Father God is humanoid because he came to earth many times and walked and talked with many people in the old testament and was seen of many and ate and drank and heard and saw and smelled and wrote.

When God Jesus gives a command he makes it possible. He told Peter to walk on water and Peter did. He commands we be holy and perfect and sin no more, surely he has made it possible for those who believe.

1 John 1
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 3
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 5
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Your belief that we cannot overcome all sins if a faithless belief and is no good news at all and at opposition to the inerrant Word of God.

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Yes, he did not come by himself, he came with the Father Holy Spirit in himself, and is why he said:

John 5:31-32
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

Hence he is the image of the invisible Almighty God inside him and he is wholly God Almighty himself as a man.

In that case you are calling "the only begotten son" Satan.
Good luck with all that.

NOPE. in your case, craprantia cult's michael of nebadon is NOT jesus, its satan.

wow i just looked up what you meant seen you kept saying it, your right that's some dark stuff

You also avoid quoting anything similar in the NT regarding his life here.
The same stories in both books. You obviously prefer Saul's version, with John the Baptist as Messiah.
I suppose you consider his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene to be whores? That narrative is old and worn out.
The Creator and the God of "your" precious Bible appear to be different entities as well. Which is it? Twist away.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/31/2018 07:29 AM

So tell me oh great Sausage of Vienna, I'm sure you've read these too.
Are all these, also omitted, the work of Satan as well?

Just kidding Sausage, I care nothing about your opinions.

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your crapratia garbage is old and worn out. I couldn't care less about your false opinions of things.

and yes, the bible is precious....its the word of GOD.

Jesus is the only begotten son, and michael of nebadon/michael aton is satan.

we know that craprantia cult members like yourself are dimwitted and gullible, so enjoy the consequences of worshiping your phony spaceship gawd.

Last Edited by Baloney on 10/31/2018 10:23 AM

I challenge YOU to find the verse where "JESUS" CLAIMS TO BE GOD, not John or Saul claiming he is.
That "garbage" is his words, not mine. And, yes, he's returned, riding on a cloud with a host of friends.
They are exactly the same words he was quoted, BY OTHERS, as saying in the Bible.
If all that's "garbage" as you say, then the whole Bible is. Which is it Sausage?
No multiple choices or "two-headed" prophets.

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sorry, but your a craprantia cultie......craprantia/fauxnix journals are channeled, false, new-age garbage.

You ones of craprantia cult really hate John 3:16 dont you?

cause it proves that all your phony "sons" are FALSE.



Last Edited by Baloney on 10/31/2018 10:29 AM

I am of the Christian "cult", John 3:16 is but one verse among many not written by "Jesus."
Only haters like you use the word hate. Your word, not mine.
Do you hate "Jesus" that much? Pity that, poor widdle Sausage.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/31/2018 10:36 AM

LOL...now you're lying again. You replaced the name Jesus in one of your posts with Esu.....a dead giveaway that you are a craprantia cult member..... and by your own admission follow the equally phony phoenix journals.

the one that hates Jesus is your cult.

putting you on ignore....haven't got any more time for your satanic stupidity.

If you're ever over the river, drop in.
Here's another "lie", Happy Halloween Sausage. So be it and Selah.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/31/2018 10:54 AM

Jesus never "clearly states he is NOT the Father", what he does do is leave room for people to believe that he IS the Father. And that is why there are many scriptures which declare he is God (the Father, being that there is only 1 God).

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for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself





whom did he come from? for I proceeded forth and came from God.


Just to be clear...whom did you not come from? neither came I of myself

And he IS God, hence the image of the invisible God, the manifestation of the Godhead in bodily form, by whom all things consist, being before all things and yet the first thing, the chosen vessel of and for God.

Ya'll need to talk to Jesus Christ more. He will reveal these basic things to anyone who seeks him for answers. He is the Good Teacher, he gives the answers to those who ask.

Jesus SAID He was SENT. Someone had the authority over Him to do such. That was the Father.

Jesus mentions "the Father" / "MY Father" almost 140 times. These verses / mentions are needless...even deceiving...IF Jesus was actually the Father.

You people try to limit the issue as "either he is God or he is not". Jesus...and the Apostles...make it clear that he is God's SON.

Here's all the verses with the "Son of God". The phrase is needless AND unecessary IF Jesus IS THE FATHER HIMSELF.

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MATTHEW 4:3 If thou be the SON OF GOD, command that
MATTHEW 4:6 If thou be the SON OF GOD, cast thyself
MATTHEW 8:29 with thee, Jesus, thou SON OF GOD? art thou
MATTHEW 14:33 Of a truth thou art the SON OF GOD.
MATTHEW 26:63 whether thou be the Christ, the SON OF GOD.
MATTHEW 27:40 If thou be the SON OF GOD, come down
MATTHEW 27:43 for he said, I am the SON OF GOD.
MATTHEW 27:54 greatly, saying, Truly this was the SON OF GOD.
MARK 1:1 the gospel of Jesus Christ, the SON OF GOD;
MARK 3:11 and cried, saying, Thou art the SON OF GOD.
MARK 15:39 said, Truly this man was the SON OF GOD.
LUKE 1:35 of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD.
LUKE 3:38 son of Adam, which was the SON OF GOD.
LUKE 4:3 If thou be the SON OF GOD, command this
LUKE 4:9 If thou be the SON OF GOD, cast thyself
LUKE 4:41 Thou art Christ the SON OF GOD. And he
LUKE 8:28 with thee, Jesus, thou SON OF GOD most high?
LUKE 22:70 Art thou then the SON OF GOD? And he
JOHN 1:34 bare record that this is the SON OF GOD.
JOHN 1:49 Rabbi, thou art the SON OF GOD; thou art
JOHN 3:18 the name of the only begotten SON OF GOD.
JOHN 5:25 the voice of the SON OF GOD: and they
JOHN 9:35 him, Dost thou believe on the SON OF GOD?
JOHN 10:36 because I said, I am the SON OF GOD?
JOHN 11:4 of God, that the SON OF GOD might be
JOHN 11:27 art the Christ, the SON OF GOD, which should
JOHN 19:7 die, because he made himself the SON OF GOD.
JOHN 20:31 is the Christ, the SON OF GOD; and that
ACTS 8:37 believe that Jesus Christ is the SON OF GOD.
ACTS 9:20 the synagogues, that he is the SON OF GOD.
ROMANS 1:4 declared to be the SON OF GOD with power,
2 CORINTHIANS 1:19 For the SON OF GOD, Jesus Christ, who was
GALATIANS 2:20 the faith of the SON OF GOD, who loved
EPHESIANS 4:13 the knowledge of the SON OF GOD, unto a
HEBREWS 4:14 the heavens, Jesus the SON OF GOD, let us
HEBREWS 6:6 crucify to themselves the SON OF GOD afresh, and
HEBREWS 7:3 made like unto the SON OF GOD; abideth a
HEBREWS 10:29 trodden under foot the SON OF GOD, and hath
1 JOHN 3:8 For this purpose the SON OF GOD was manifested,
1 JOHN 4:15 that Jesus is the SON OF GOD, God dwelleth
1 JOHN 5:5 that believeth that Jesus is the SON OF GOD?
1 JOHN 5:10 that believeth on the SON OF GOD hath the
1 JOHN 5:12 that hath not the SON OF GOD hath not
1 JOHN 5:13 the name of the SON OF GOD; that ye
1 JOHN 5:13 believe on the name of the SON OF GOD.
1 JOHN 5:20 we know that the SON OF GOD is come,
REVELATION 2:18 These things saith the SON OF GOD, who hath

So NOW then....

...do you TRULY follow Jesus and Believe what He said?

Or....

....do you follow a human interpretation of verses that are NOT Jesus' own words?

Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 10/31/2018 02:27 PM

How about asking the Father Yahuah Jahovah etc...Himself?

He WILL answer...

Sin is not doing God's Will. The Father's Will.

NOT Jesus' will. Jesus TOLD us this.

Show me ONE person who lives in total sinlessness.

You can't. You can't PROVE ANYONE is totally sinless.

Faith means we have been forgiven for our past sins. It's not a one time thing though, which is why Jesus gave us the Lord's Prayer...so that we will continually ask forgiveness.

Jesus was the ONLY HUMAN to live without sin, ONLY because He is God's Son.

The Father is invisible?

Read Exodus...and consider what God showed and told Moses.

How about when various prophets were taken to Heaven in visions? They saw who was on the throne.

It wasn't Jesus.

God Jehovah is the Father.

Jesus was sent by the Father and allowed Himself to be crucified per the Father's Will. He does nothing BUT the Father's Will. That is why He said "the Father and I are one".

IF Jesus WAS God there would be no reason for Him to pray to the Father or even mention Him at least 230 times in the NT

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Did Jesus say "pray to me"..."worship me"?? No, ALL of His prayers were to the "Father who sent me". He started the Lord's Prayer with "Our Father..."

Jesus prayed to the Father and also taught all who Believe to pray to the Father via the Lord's Prayer. Jesus does ONLY the Father's Will. IF Jesus WAS God there would be no reason for Him to create the Lord's Prayer, which starts out...

Matthew 6

9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.

10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors. 13 And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. 14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Luke 11

1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3 Give us day by day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Concerning the End Times, Jesus said "only the Father knows". IF Jesus was God, He wouldn't have said...

Matthew 24:36 (ASV) But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

Very good points . The word "one in Hebrew is
"achad" which means to be unified . As in the
same purpose and same goals . In our modern English
we could say All for ONE and ONE for all . Jesus
is NOT the Father but an earthly image of the most
High . Jesus said I come not in MY name but in the
name of the Father .