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CrsCrpr User ID: 76963754 United States 11/01/2018 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree 100%! What's your reasoning? II Corinthians 3:17 - Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Freedom Your liberties aren't dying; they're being killed by people with names and addresses ... I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. -- Thomas Jefferson |
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dogman17 User ID: 14837061 United States 11/01/2018 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is evolution but it is a result of intelligent design. If you are going to design a life form logic would dictate that your creation can genetically adapt to its surroundings. My 2 cents. [/quote Very scientific. No intelligent creator need be involved. Just don't make anything up. |
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CrsCrpr User ID: 76963754 United States 11/01/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Into what? Do you have four arms? Can you fly? Exactly how have you evolved? Please, oh please, elaborate on this. II Corinthians 3:17 - Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Freedom Your liberties aren't dying; they're being killed by people with names and addresses ... I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. -- Thomas Jefferson |
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CrsCrpr User ID: 76963754 United States 11/01/2018 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolution IS a theory. Quoting: Cosmic Charlie No Direct Proof exists except speculation. Junk DNA is not junk - just not currently activated for that life form. The DNA circuit board can be manipulated because it was designed, it did not evolve from mud being struck by lightning. And you need to learn what "theory" in science actually means. theory noun the·o·ry | \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\ plural theories Definition of theory 1 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena 2a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory 3a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption : conjecture c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject theory of equations 4 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art music theory 5 : abstract thought : speculation 6 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another The following is an excert from "The Difference Between a Fact, Hypothesis, Theory, and Law In Science" by Patrick Allan Fact: Observations about the world around us. Hypothesis: A proposed explanation for a phenomenon made as a starting point for further investigation. Theory: A well-substantiated explanation acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation. Law: A statement based on repeated experimental observations that describes some phenomenon of nature. A theory is not a fact quit trying to make us sound incapable of understand the scientific method. That is always your types go-to Last Edited by Nawt Meh Prezdunt on 11/01/2018 01:10 PM II Corinthians 3:17 - Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Freedom Your liberties aren't dying; they're being killed by people with names and addresses ... I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. -- Thomas Jefferson |
TheLordsServant User ID: 31924452 United States 11/01/2018 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 11/01/2018 02:08 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Kakarot User ID: 76866568 Australia 11/01/2018 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Endogenous Retroviruses have already proven evolution. When retroviruses insert into germ line cells they are passed onto the host's offspring and all the offspring's offspring forever will have the ERV insertion in the exact same position with the same mutations. To share an ERV in the same position with 1 other individual in the same species has a 1 in 3 billion chance yet all the apes share 90%+ of their ERV insertions, with chimps and humans sharing 99.9% of their ERV insertions with the same mutations in the same position. Retroviruses are still around doing the exact same thing. There are ERVs that only some humans share with each other. Kakarot |
***Chad*** (OP) User ID: 76954902 United States 11/01/2018 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Endogenous Retroviruses have already proven evolution. When retroviruses insert into germ line cells they are passed onto the host's offspring and all the offspring's offspring forever will have the ERV insertion in the exact same position with the same mutations. To share an ERV in the same position with 1 other individual in the same species has a 1 in 3 billion chance yet all the apes share 90%+ of their ERV insertions, with chimps and humans sharing 99.9% of their ERV insertions with the same mutations in the same position. Retroviruses are still around doing the exact same thing. There are ERVs that only some humans share with each other. Quoting: Kakarot They have not, ERV's do not prove evolution and have been ruled out as evidence by evolutionist. Saying “ERV” Does Not Prove Evolution Quoting: [link to answersingenesis.org (secure)] Another problem with the idea that ERVs support common ancestry is the logical fallacy known as the “argument from ignorance.” Simply finding ERVs in a genome is not sufficient proof common ancestry occurred. ERVs do not come with a birth or death certificate. Therefore, there is no way to know beyond a shadow of a doubt (as many evolutionists claim) that this somehow proves evolution. Moreover, evolutionists are not willing to imbibe arguments suggesting alternative explanations for why we find ERVs where we do. Surely some evolutionists could retort saying that we are holding to a “God of the gaps” to rescue our position, but that simply is not the case. For one, evolutionists have their own version of a “God of the gaps.” It’s called “Evolution of the Gaps.” Last Edited by ***Chad*** on 11/01/2018 11:14 PM I am not Canadian. Rare when i post here. Real Politics 24/7 Voice and Text Chat [link to discord.gg (secure)] |
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NowIhavetothinkofaname User ID: 77066386 Australia 11/02/2018 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s no evolution but an upgrade...and I think we definitely need an upgrade... what about upgrading our digestive system! Quoting: 1r0n4n9el You're totally wrong! Our digestion system doesn't need to stop pooping, in fact taking a long poop is therapeutic to get away from crazy people... NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts It's all bull! Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten. If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it. You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests. It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation. |
Spur-Man User ID: 75814481 Australia 11/02/2018 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Endogenous Retroviruses have already proven evolution. When retroviruses insert into germ line cells they are passed onto the host's offspring and all the offspring's offspring forever will have the ERV insertion in the exact same position with the same mutations. To share an ERV in the same position with 1 other individual in the same species has a 1 in 3 billion chance yet all the apes share 90%+ of their ERV insertions, with chimps and humans sharing 99.9% of their ERV insertions with the same mutations in the same position. Retroviruses are still around doing the exact same thing. There are ERVs that only some humans share with each other. Quoting: Kakarot They have not, ERV's do not prove evolution and have been ruled out as evidence by evolutionist. Saying “ERV” Does Not Prove Evolution Quoting: [link to answersingenesis.org (secure)] Another problem with the idea that ERVs support common ancestry is the logical fallacy known as the “argument from ignorance.” Simply finding ERVs in a genome is not sufficient proof common ancestry occurred. ERVs do not come with a birth or death certificate. Therefore, there is no way to know beyond a shadow of a doubt (as many evolutionists claim) that this somehow proves evolution. Moreover, evolutionists are not willing to imbibe arguments suggesting alternative explanations for why we find ERVs where we do. Surely some evolutionists could retort saying that we are holding to a “God of the gaps” to rescue our position, but that simply is not the case. For one, evolutionists have their own version of a “God of the gaps.” It’s called “Evolution of the Gaps.” You're just making things up now. What 'evolutionist' ruled out ERVs? Give me some evidence of this or I'll just assume you're talking out of your ass. Answersingenesis is not a scientific source. It's a creationist propaganda website run by Ken Ham, who is a laughing stock. This moron spent millions of dollars trying to replicate Noah's Ark, unintentionally proving his own story wrong. If you want an example of evolution, check out italian wall lizards: [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] A population of lizards were introduced to an island and underwent rapid anatomical changes within 30 years. They even developed new organs in their digestive system in response to local food sources. Last Edited by Spur-Man on 11/02/2018 08:03 AM |
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Kakarot User ID: 76866568 Australia 11/02/2018 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Endogenous Retroviruses have already proven evolution. When retroviruses insert into germ line cells they are passed onto the host's offspring and all the offspring's offspring forever will have the ERV insertion in the exact same position with the same mutations. To share an ERV in the same position with 1 other individual in the same species has a 1 in 3 billion chance yet all the apes share 90%+ of their ERV insertions, with chimps and humans sharing 99.9% of their ERV insertions with the same mutations in the same position. Retroviruses are still around doing the exact same thing. There are ERVs that only some humans share with each other. Quoting: Kakarot They have not, ERV's do not prove evolution and have been ruled out as evidence by evolutionist. Saying “ERV” Does Not Prove Evolution Quoting: [link to answersingenesis.org (secure)] Another problem with the idea that ERVs support common ancestry is the logical fallacy known as the “argument from ignorance.” Simply finding ERVs in a genome is not sufficient proof common ancestry occurred. ERVs do not come with a birth or death certificate. Therefore, there is no way to know beyond a shadow of a doubt (as many evolutionists claim) that this somehow proves evolution. Moreover, evolutionists are not willing to imbibe arguments suggesting alternative explanations for why we find ERVs where we do. Surely some evolutionists could retort saying that we are holding to a “God of the gaps” to rescue our position, but that simply is not the case. For one, evolutionists have their own version of a “God of the gaps.” It’s called “Evolution of the Gaps.” But they do have some form of a birth certificate, LTRs and mutations. LTRs form during reverse transcription and each ERV has 2 LTRs, the 2 LTRs in each ERV have to be identical at the time of insertion. Over time mutations change the LTRs so they are a little different to each other, so if 2 species share the same patterns you know they occurred in the common ancestor of the 2 species or even further back. If 3 or more species share the same patterns you know they occurred in the common ancestor of all 3 or more of the species. The more difference the LTRs have in each ERV, the older they are. Humans and chimps share 203,000 ERVs, that is 99.9%. Retroviruses are still around doing the same thing. Koalas are experiencing the same thing for the last 100 years. Some humans share ERVs that other humans do not have. Neanderthals and Denisovans shared a few of their own ERVs that are not shared with humans. Creationists do not have any serious explanations, their "explanations" are actually only for their believers, not to actually debunk the evidence. That is because their explanations have nothing to do with the actual evidence, but that is all they have, if they throw away these explanations of theirs they would have to accept evolution. ERVs literally have the same genes as retroviruses, as they are retrovirus insertions. ERVs are associated with cancer and other diseases. The fact they have LTRs means they occurred from reverse transcription, which is what retroviruses use to make a DNA copy of their RNA genome. Kakarot |
The Searcher User ID: 77074880 United Kingdom 11/02/2018 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolutionist. The belief that all life changes and adapts over the period of billions of years. Revolutionist. The belief that rapid changes occur over very short periods of time altering all life in the process. Truth. It is both of the above. And a third element, your Planet is visited on a regular basis and you are "assisted" in your development. The Earth created humans because it needed plastic |
Click Here User ID: 38768394 United States 11/02/2018 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Endogenous Retroviruses have already proven evolution. When retroviruses insert into germ line cells they are passed onto the host's offspring and all the offspring's offspring forever will have the ERV insertion in the exact same position with the same mutations. To share an ERV in the same position with 1 other individual in the same species has a 1 in 3 billion chance yet all the apes share 90%+ of their ERV insertions, with chimps and humans sharing 99.9% of their ERV insertions with the same mutations in the same position. Retroviruses are still around doing the exact same thing. There are ERVs that only some humans share with each other. Quoting: Kakarot They have not, ERV's do not prove evolution and have been ruled out as evidence by evolutionist. Saying “ERV” Does Not Prove Evolution Quoting: [link to answersingenesis.org (secure)] Another problem with the idea that ERVs support common ancestry is the logical fallacy known as the “argument from ignorance.” Simply finding ERVs in a genome is not sufficient proof common ancestry occurred. ERVs do not come with a birth or death certificate. Therefore, there is no way to know beyond a shadow of a doubt (as many evolutionists claim) that this somehow proves evolution. Moreover, evolutionists are not willing to imbibe arguments suggesting alternative explanations for why we find ERVs where we do. Surely some evolutionists could retort saying that we are holding to a “God of the gaps” to rescue our position, but that simply is not the case. For one, evolutionists have their own version of a “God of the gaps.” It’s called “Evolution of the Gaps.” You're just making things up now. What 'evolutionist' ruled out ERVs? Give me some evidence of this or I'll just assume you're talking out of your ass. Answersingenesis is not a scientific source. It's a creationist propaganda website run by Ken Ham, who is a laughing stock. This moron spent millions of dollars trying to replicate Noah's Ark, unintentionally proving his own story wrong. If you want an example of evolution, check out italian wall lizards: [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] A population of lizards were introduced to an island and underwent rapid anatomical changes within 30 years. They even developed new organs in their digestive system in response to local food sources. This is called adaptation & the information for creating the "new" organ was already encoded in the lizards DNA long before ever having been dropped off at the island. Evolution is supposed to prove an increase in genetic information over time. Reality, however, proves there is a significant loss of genetic information, ie. mutations, external factors, specialization, etc. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. Romans 10:10 |
Click Here User ID: 38768394 United States 11/02/2018 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ***Chad*** They have not, ERV's do not prove evolution and have been ruled out as evidence by evolutionist. ... You're just making things up now. What 'evolutionist' ruled out ERVs? Give me some evidence of this or I'll just assume you're talking out of your ass. Answersingenesis is not a scientific source. It's a creationist propaganda website run by Ken Ham, who is a laughing stock. This moron spent millions of dollars trying to replicate Noah's Ark, unintentionally proving his own story wrong. If you want an example of evolution, check out italian wall lizards: [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] A population of lizards were introduced to an island and underwent rapid anatomical changes within 30 years. They even developed new organs in their digestive system in response to local food sources. This is called adaptation & the information for creating the "new" organ was already encoded in the lizards DNA long before ever having been dropped off at the island. Evolution is supposed to prove an increase in genetic information over time. Reality, however, proves there is a significant loss of genetic information, ie. mutations, external factors, specialization, etc. Nope. Here is a page that explains the mistakes creationist loons make. [link to www.scientificamerican.com (secure)] Here's everything you need to acquire from that article you provided: "The NAS defines a fact as “an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as ‘true.’” The fossil record and abundant other evidence testify that organisms have evolved through time. Although no one observed those transformations, the indirect evidence is clear, unambiguous and compelling." Evolutionists ALWAYS do this. They'll start with a fact, ie, the explanation of what a fact is & how it's defined, then insert an improvable assumption, thereby influencing the reader to associate the two statements as one fact, when they ARE NOT. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. Romans 10:10 |