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Centurionx User ID: 59039833 United States 11/07/2018 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who were the most wicked members of skulls and bones in your opinion that you've met? Quoting: andymiller I'm not allowed to name them, mainly because they carry my "family" name. But, maybe that's just because I know them more than the others. Maybe when you know someone's secrets, they're all that bad. There were a lot of money men in the group who were essentially Satan, but they were in it for profit, not sadistic glee. What they caused wasn't great, but it wasn't driven by a specific need to wreck the world, just by greed, and sometimes that greed required wrecking life for everyone else. However, the one I'm thinking about was in it for profit AND sadistic glee. Screwed up combination. I can understand, not naming names, nor would I expect you too It's the sadistic ones in particular that are troublesome to me personally, and really should be to insiders as well, family or no They're what you could call loose cannons Eventually, they will destroy everything, including themselves and those closest to them Having them in positions of power causes serious problems, and can even jeopardize the future or 'work', though I'm sure you already know this Thanks again for the thread :) Hmmmm... |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/07/2018 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who were the most wicked members of skulls and bones in your opinion that you've met? Quoting: andymiller I'm not allowed to name them, mainly because they carry my "family" name. But, maybe that's just because I know them more than the others. Maybe when you know someone's secrets, they're all that bad. There were a lot of money men in the group who were essentially Satan, but they were in it for profit, not sadistic glee. What they caused wasn't great, but it wasn't driven by a specific need to wreck the world, just by greed, and sometimes that greed required wrecking life for everyone else. However, the one I'm thinking about was in it for profit AND sadistic glee. Screwed up combination. I can understand, not naming names, nor would I expect you too It's the sadistic ones in particular that are troublesome to me personally, and really should be to insiders as well, family or no They're what you could call loose cannons Eventually, they will destroy everything, including themselves and those closest to them Having them in positions of power causes serious problems, and can even jeopardize the future or 'work', though I'm sure you already know this Thanks again for the thread :) They're driven, and groups like that put a high value on being driven. That or they get mowed under like the rest of us. It's been an interesting subject to discuss. I was pretty sure answering questions about it was going to be like having needles jammed under my fingernails. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Centurionx User ID: 59039833 United States 11/07/2018 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who were the most wicked members of skulls and bones in your opinion that you've met? Quoting: andymiller I'm not allowed to name them, mainly because they carry my "family" name. But, maybe that's just because I know them more than the others. Maybe when you know someone's secrets, they're all that bad. There were a lot of money men in the group who were essentially Satan, but they were in it for profit, not sadistic glee. What they caused wasn't great, but it wasn't driven by a specific need to wreck the world, just by greed, and sometimes that greed required wrecking life for everyone else. However, the one I'm thinking about was in it for profit AND sadistic glee. Screwed up combination. I can understand, not naming names, nor would I expect you too It's the sadistic ones in particular that are troublesome to me personally, and really should be to insiders as well, family or no They're what you could call loose cannons Eventually, they will destroy everything, including themselves and those closest to them Having them in positions of power causes serious problems, and can even jeopardize the future or 'work', though I'm sure you already know this Thanks again for the thread :) They're driven, and groups like that put a high value on being driven. That or they get mowed under like the rest of us. It's been an interesting subject to discuss. I was pretty sure answering questions about it was going to be like having needles jammed under my fingernails. Oh yea, highly ambitious It certainly has, and I'm glad it was as painless as possible for ya :p I didn't see one nut bar in here talking fire and brimstone lol, knock on wood Hmmmm... |
thetrickybigguy User ID: 56638406 United States 11/07/2018 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skull and bones originated from the SS officers hat which had the skull and bones insignia on the front. they're all fucking nazis. [link to www.google.com (secure)] Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/07/2018 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skull and bones originated from the SS officers hat which had the skull and bones insignia on the front. Quoting: thetrickybigguy they're all fucking nazis. [link to www.google.com (secure)] I'm not old enough to try to figure out clandestine crossovers in the chunk of history between the 1800s and 1900s. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
thetrickybigguy User ID: 56638406 United States 11/07/2018 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skull and bones originated from the SS officers hat which had the skull and bones insignia on the front. Quoting: thetrickybigguy they're all fucking nazis. [link to www.google.com (secure)] I'm not old enough to try to figure out clandestine crossovers in the chunk of history between the 1800s and 1900s. nothing to figure out. skull and bones and all of their members, bushs included, are all nazis. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/07/2018 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skull and bones originated from the SS officers hat which had the skull and bones insignia on the front. Quoting: thetrickybigguy they're all fucking nazis. [link to www.google.com (secure)] I'm not old enough to try to figure out clandestine crossovers in the chunk of history between the 1800s and 1900s. nothing to figure out. skull and bones and all of their members, bushs included, are all nazis. Not sure the Donovans or Mahoneys were. They were just a long line of corrupt politicians from Ireland. Not everyone in a coalition needs to come from the same source to have a shared goal. Sometimes, they share the loot. That said, I believe the older display of skulls was brought from Germany, although most likely closer to the time the society was established in the early 1800s, rather than when the SS was officially established in the early 1900s. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 11/07/2018 12:59 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/08/2018 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is skull.and bones rival/at odds with any other secret society groups? Also what are their political affiliations? Mostly republicans? Quoting: kingLizard On the surface, they have Scroll and Key and Wolf's Head, but there was at least some civil business going on among the three. I wouldn't consider the rivalry any more serious that opposing collegiate football teams. Although, I could be wrong. Skull and Bones is above political affiliations for the most part. They own the spread. Members in the group I got stuck tagging along with were essentially given "horses" (politicians) to keep control of, and those ran the gambit - Republican, Democrat, Independents, etc. I got the feeling those who had more power and money were given Dems and Republicans to run, while the more annoying members got the independents - group hierarchy stuff. Republicans may have had slightly more control of themselves in some cases (Bush Sr) but that may be a personality thing. Some people are harder to ride. I nearly lost my mind when it looked like Bernie might have a chance because I knew who was running him and how screwed up their methods are, and if you think the world has been bad, you don't even know how much worse it would have gotten. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
jamesd1628 User ID: 76673352 United States 11/08/2018 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. I’m curious about occult influences. Checkerboard floors in the building? Images similar to tarot cards? Odd statues? You’ve mentioned the drugging of members. Do you know which drugs, and are they used as an attempt to raise conscious awareness? Any occult ceremonies? Attempts at channeling? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76372112 United States 11/08/2018 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TlvmmCpoft I genuinely can't remember if we spent time in a coffin. I was drugged out of my mind for half of the ceremonies. They do follow a lot of ritual, though. Even business is expected to have certain ritual aspects attached to be official. My only real experience with religion has been Catholic school and the church they'd make students go to, and a lot of it significantly reminded me of that - the incense, chanting in unison, walking in order, having a "master of ceremonies" reminiscent of a priest, etc. It was like a more darkly lit church experience. I see, yea it doesn't surprise me about all the ceremonial procedure Definitely a lot of that in Catholicism as well, seeing how its roots are in ancient Rome, it is also not surprising :) Isn't 322 them also ? As in March 22nd, or.. Yeah, for the longest time I thought 322 was the street address, but its 60something. I obviously knew where the building was physically located. I just thought 322 was the address. Interesting, was born on the 23rd of March myself Something about S&B reminds me so much of certain aspects of freemasonry As if they're based on the same ancient sources, parts of it anyway March 22 is supposed to be the birthday of Mary Magdalene |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76372112 United States 11/08/2018 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Centurionx I see, yea it doesn't surprise me about all the ceremonial procedure Definitely a lot of that in Catholicism as well, seeing how its roots are in ancient Rome, it is also not surprising :) Isn't 322 them also ? As in March 22nd, or.. Yeah, for the longest time I thought 322 was the street address, but its 60something. I obviously knew where the building was physically located. I just thought 322 was the address. Interesting, was born on the 23rd of March myself Something about S&B reminds me so much of certain aspects of freemasonry As if they're based on the same ancient sources, parts of it anyway I met a Templar, March 22 is supposed to be the birthday of Mary Magdalene I always thought the skull meant John the Baptist. I knew the actualy physical specimen was Geronimo but I thought John the Baptist had some bearing on the symbolism since it was he that had Children with the Magdalene |
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bobobibi User ID: 28372490 United States 11/08/2018 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry I shaded out on you a couple weeks ago on your other thread but it was enjoyed! life happened... glad your still sharing the stories people need to hear!!! curious if you've noticed any spooks or anything similar since you've started posting what you have. assuming its not hard at all for them to track who is posting what.. Zoinx |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76785983 United States 11/08/2018 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who were the most wicked members of skulls and bones in your opinion that you've met? Quoting: andymiller I'm not allowed to name them, mainly because they carry my "family" name. But, maybe that's just because I know them more than the others. Maybe when you know someone's secrets, they're all that bad. There were a lot of money men in the group who were essentially Satan, but they were in it for profit, not sadistic glee. What they caused wasn't great, but it wasn't driven by a specific need to wreck the world, just by greed, and sometimes that greed required wrecking life for everyone else. However, the one I'm thinking about was in it for profit AND sadistic glee. Screwed up combination. That totally jibes with my belief system. Humanity will be destroyed by uncontrolled, inept self-service, not intentional evil to serve evil. I do believe there are those who desire evil for evil's sake, I just think that those with real power are only interested in gaining more and cementing it for their progeny, ends justifying any means. But wait, is that the definition of evil? I don't know. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76694357 United States 11/08/2018 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is skull.and bones rival/at odds with any other secret society groups? Also what are their political affiliations? Mostly republicans? Quoting: kingLizard On the surface, they have Scroll and Key and Wolf's Head, but there was at least some civil business going on among the three. I wouldn't consider the rivalry any more serious that opposing collegiate football teams. Although, I could be wrong. Skull and Bones is above political affiliations for the most part. They own the spread. Members in the group I got stuck tagging along with were essentially given "horses" (politicians) to keep control of, and those ran the gambit - Republican, Democrat, Independents, etc. I got the feeling those who had more power and money were given Dems and Republicans to run, while the more annoying members got the independents - group hierarchy stuff. Republicans may have had slightly more control of themselves in some cases (Bush Sr) but that may be a personality thing. Some people are harder to ride. I nearly lost my mind when it looked like Bernie might have a chance because I knew who was running him and how screwed up their methods are, and if you think the world has been bad, you don't even know how much worse it would have gotten. So politics is a hobby not a goal? |
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Deplorable Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator 11/08/2018 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skull and bones originated from the SS officers hat which had the skull and bones insignia on the front. Quoting: thetrickybigguy they're all fucking nazis. [link to www.google.com (secure)] I'm not old enough to try to figure out clandestine crossovers in the chunk of history between the 1800s and 1900s. nothing to figure out. skull and bones and all of their members, bushs included, are all nazis. Not sure the Donovans or Mahoneys were. They were just a long line of corrupt politicians from Ireland. Not everyone in a coalition needs to come from the same source to have a shared goal. Sometimes, they share the loot. That said, I believe the older display of skulls was brought from Germany, although most likely closer to the time the society was established in the early 1800s, rather than when the SS was officially established in the early 1900s. Skulls and crossbones were commonly found engraved in headstones in Germany as far back as the Middle Ages Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/08/2018 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. I’m curious about occult influences. Checkerboard floors in the building? Images similar to tarot cards? Odd statues? You’ve mentioned the drugging of members. Do you know which drugs, and are they used as an attempt to raise conscious awareness? Any occult ceremonies? Attempts at channeling? Quoting: jamesd1628 It was one of the few places where I was usually wrapped up enough in what was going on that I wasn't counting tiles. The front hall may have had checkers...I'll have to try to remember. There were a few symbolic pieces placed here and there. The items I remember the most were from one of the ceremonies. And yes, we literally wore floor-length robes. There was a giant swinging gold incense burner... a little like what this cute little guy has but bigger and more gaudy. There were staffs that were like knights' long sticks. We had books nearly as old and ancient as time (okay, maybe only a few hundred years old). In the main skull display there were so many more items than what any artist's rendition has shown. A telescope, a bunch of gold items, a globe, a book that held a manifest - like a ship's manifest, more. There was another seriously thick book that was signed at initiation, a knife that was present during that ceremony. No idea about raising awareness. I saw it all through an atheist's eye - to me it was just another ritual to get through like a graduation ceremony or a wedding. I wasn't alone in that thinking. The drugging knocked me the hell out, so I assume it did the same for everyone else at the table. There were maybe 22 people at the table that day. I was led away into the library. I have no idea where everyone else ended up. Tampering with the desserts was done by older members. I caught them in the act before dinner, being an idiot I didn't let that stop me from eating. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 11/08/2018 12:23 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
InPneuma User ID: 76710245 United States 11/08/2018 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was there between the mid 80s and mid 90s. More of a fixture than a student, although I did take quite a few classes. Was Jonathan Edwards a member? Has his name come up? "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -Thomas Jefferson, The Virginia Constitution of 1776, First Draft. MOLON LABE |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/08/2018 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it true Prescott Bush and some of the founding members funded the Nazi war machine?... Quoting: King Triad I don't know. My "family" line was not that one, so I haven't followed their history back that far. My own I followed because I was trying to find out where I may have come from. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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bobobibi User ID: 28372490 United States 11/08/2018 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TlvmmCpoft I'm not old enough to try to figure out clandestine crossovers in the chunk of history between the 1800s and 1900s. nothing to figure out. skull and bones and all of their members, bushs included, are all nazis. Not sure the Donovans or Mahoneys were. They were just a long line of corrupt politicians from Ireland. Not everyone in a coalition needs to come from the same source to have a shared goal. Sometimes, they share the loot. That said, I believe the older display of skulls was brought from Germany, although most likely closer to the time the society was established in the early 1800s, rather than when the SS was officially established in the early 1900s. Skulls and crossbones were commonly found engraved in headstones in Germany as far back as the Middle Ages didn't know that one... interesting. makes complete sense tho Zoinx |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77094071 Italy 11/08/2018 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry I shaded out on you a couple weeks ago on your other thread but it was enjoyed! life happened... glad your still sharing the stories people need to hear!!! Quoting: bobobibi curious if you've noticed any spooks or anything similar since you've started posting what you have. assuming its not hard at all for them to track who is posting what.. I've never been hidden and I treat everyone equally, spooky or not. Even back in the day at Yale I was the "low hanging fruit," the one real conspiracy theorists would hunt down and try to get information from before the internet, because I was just a kid, rarely had a body guard, was spotted going in and out of S&B, and was wandering around high out of my mind half the time, whether it was of my own doing or not, depending on the day. I was accessible. Still am. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 11/08/2018 12:30 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |