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Active Shooter at Borderline Bar in California many injured

 
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I need to start a new thread on why this is staged and what the goal is. Here is the goal.

Create a " mental health requirement " to buy a gun. Which is illegal in itself by the way because it violates hippa. Patient dr relationship is private by law. Also, we have laws in place where anyone ADJUDICATED by a JUDGE cant own guns etc.As it should be because we are headed toward mob rule with this shit. I mean ive read comments from people saying things like anyone diagnosed with Any mental illness within ten years cant buy a gun. Really?? So if you get anxiety on planes and take an occasional xanax before flights ( many do) you cant own a gun?
Think about it folks....like every damm new intentionally vague gun law they will try and ram thru some bs that says shit like.." if you spend time on conspiracy sites you cant buy a gun etc" better wake up now folks to whats really happening....
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Hippa died with Obama-care. As soon as your medical records were required to be stored electronically, they were available to anyone with with access to the system, or rudimentary hacking skills. Insurance companies has unfettered access, and they do as they please with your medical history. Only doctors are restricted by hippa now.
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More Fake News ! Hippa was established in 1996 and is seperate law from the Affordable Care Act. Get your facts right before you spew disinformation. Unbelievable that you post something as fact when it's fake News
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


yup thats him,matches the same description as in the other images
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Damn just woke up to this news. I used to go that bar when I was in high school. They used to have an 18 n over night. I finger blasted a chick in line waiting to get in.

So sad.
 Quoting: RickKane


waitwhat


that is sad...

that you picked this thread to share...

c'mon man, people just died...
 Quoting: GT Big hair


Are you sure???


Gunman ID'd After SoCal Mass Shooting Leaves 13 Dead; "Las Vegas Massacre" Survivors Among Crowd

MSM narrative stinks of BS, as alwaya.
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Aaahhhhh -

The fix is in, the narrative is being formed.

On fox news (disappointing shift observed lately) it's possible the shooter, a marine corps veteran, suffered from PTSD and should have never had a gun. The shooter is also a victim of Trump's ineffective VA medical system.

What utter BS.
 Quoting: Bright Side


Parroting that same agenda on cnn now...

Considering the name of the bar (borderline) and our President's decision to send troops to the border, I'd say the deep state is sending a message via 12 dead Americans.
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People complain about Fake News, but the internet detectives arrive and post somebody's picture and proclaims them as the shooter ? Because the guy has the same or similar name and God forbid he has a lot of tattoos ? I don't know if its him or not, but if it's not you guys have posted the man's picture, possibly his family's pictures, just stop. Why not wait til its confirmed. Stop making the shooters heros when they are zeros. Just a shame people complain about fake news and then spend their own lives creating fake news. Shameful, and one day it could happen to one of you, find your picture all over as a mass murderer because you posted on GLP, or had long hair, or pictures of you with weapons on FB. Check yourselves
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Well said!
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


He looks a little off in the eyes..you can always tell..its in the eyes...CRAZY...
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[Per ZeroHedge]

A man interviewed by the local ABC station said that multiple friends inside Borderline had survived the Route 91 country music festival shooting at the Mandalay Bay casino in Las Vegas just over a year ago.
"A lot of my friends survived Route 91,” he said. “If they survived that, they will survive this.”

Were these "friends" acting in both events, or were they silenced after being at the 1st event?
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"BORDER LINE BAR"? considering all the things allegedly that will take place at the US/MEX border with regard to the northbound caravans and the militarization of the US/MEX border tells me that this is a PSYOP/FF/DRILL like all the rest. I haven't even read the "official" story yet; I never seem to need to because these things are so obviously fake these days.
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"Border Line" seems to be a common name for CW bars, and BBQ restaurants. Wouldn't read much into that.
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


He looks a little off in the eyes..you can always tell..its in the eyes...CRAZY...
 Quoting: The ring of truth


I used to work with a guy like that. He was a closet gay in denial.
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Yeah..Borderline Bar....

Considering President Trump's statement of "we will use weapons if they throw rocks"...this is a message.

Can't stomach listening to this news anchors. The bogus script and over the top acting is gut wrenchingly awful.
 Quoting: uhhuh


Using the same actors as Vegas.


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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


He looks a little off in the eyes..you can always tell..its in the eyes...CRAZY...
 Quoting: The ring of truth


I used to work with a guy like that. He was a closet gay in denial.
 Quoting: fluffycat


HE does look little light in the loafers....
TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND!

Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH!

Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON...

ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS!
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


From what I've seen that other picture I shared also came from the same source as this one.
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Yeah..Borderline Bar....

Considering President Trump's statement of "we will use weapons if they throw rocks"...this is a message.

Can't stomach listening to this news anchors. The bogus script and over the top acting is gut wrenchingly awful.
 Quoting: uhhuh


Using the same actors as Vegas.


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Or howabout it's a deep state attack on Country music in general, on Red State culture.
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


The media has their narrative for the next week.

"Evil White men..."

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FAF FF
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'Ian David Long'= Sandy Hook in Gematira (as well as some other interesting stuff)... that is all, carry on.

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Here is his real picture:

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 Quoting: fluffycat


How sad. He was a nice looking kid.
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I need to start a new thread on why this is staged and what the goal is. Here is the goal.

Create a " mental health requirement " to buy a gun. Which is illegal in itself by the way because it violates hippa. Patient dr relationship is private by law. Also, we have laws in place where anyone ADJUDICATED by a JUDGE cant own guns etc.As it should be because we are headed toward mob rule with this shit. I mean ive read comments from people saying things like anyone diagnosed with Any mental illness within ten years cant buy a gun. Really?? So if you get anxiety on planes and take an occasional xanax before flights ( many do) you cant own a gun?
Think about it folks....like every damm new intentionally vague gun law they will try and ram thru some bs that says shit like.." if you spend time on conspiracy sites you cant buy a gun etc" better wake up now folks to whats really happening....
 Quoting: Joeyfats


Hippa died with Obama-care. As soon as your medical records were required to be stored electronically, they were available to anyone with with access to the system, or rudimentary hacking skills. Insurance companies has unfettered access, and they do as they please with your medical history. Only doctors are restricted by hippa now.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


More Fake News ! Hippa was established in 1996 and is seperate law from the Affordable Care Act. Get your facts right before you spew disinformation. Unbelievable that you post something as fact when it's fake News
 Quoting: Emoj


piss off on the trolling
 Quoting: Deplorable Lady Jane Smith


Who's trolling? Epic Beard Guy is right.

Give me your nane and birthday and later when I go into work I can easily gain access and post your prescription and diagnosis history even tough you've never even met me or been my patient.

I wouldn't - it's a violation of law and ethics. But I could. That's the point.
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


From what I've seen that other picture I shared also came from the same source as this one.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


You're right, same face/jawline same ears:

[link to ibb.co (secure)]
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So what happened to all those reports of an Arab looking guy?
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A man interviewed by the local ABC station said that multiple friends inside Borderline had survived the Route 91 country music festival shooting at the Mandalay Bay casino in Las Vegas just over a year ago.

"A lot of my friends survived Route 91,” he said. “If they survived that, they will survive this.” ,,,Thats some Final Destination ...Shit right there...
TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND!

Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH!

Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON...

ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS!
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Another picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


From what I've seen that other picture I shared also came from the same source as this one.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


You're right, same face/jawline same ears:

[link to ibb.co (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


Yup, plus before the other Ian Long put his facebook to private, I saw the source for both pictures and they both came from the same facebook account.
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Here is his real picture:

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How sad. He was a nice looking kid.
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But he has not a single tattoo in that pic. And looks really clean cut.
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Yeah..Borderline Bar....

Considering President Trump's statement of "we will use weapons if they throw rocks"...this is a message.

Can't stomach listening to this news anchors. The bogus script and over the top acting is gut wrenchingly awful.
 Quoting: uhhuh


Using the same actors as Vegas.


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 Quoting: 54321...!


Or howabout it's a deep state attack on Country music in general, on Red State culture.
 Quoting: fluffycat



Hmmm, maybe if there were actually any real "attacks".
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White dude with mental illness goes nuts with a gun. Anyone suprised?
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I have heard at least one source say it was a Glock .45 caliber handgun.

There are a few models of Glock that are chambered in the .45 ACP, the Glock 21 with a capacity of 13 rounds, the Glock 30 with a capacity of 10 rounds (can also use Glock 21 magazine), the Glock 36 with a capacity of 6 rounds (single stack configuration), and the Glock 41 which is a longer slide, longer sight radius, it uses the Glock 21 magazines with a capacity of 13 rounds. Extended base plates can often be added to magazines increasing their capacity up to 5 more rounds. A Glock 21 magazine with an extended base plate could then have a capacity of 18 rounds, plus one in the chamber. It isn't too much of a burden to then carry 5 to 10 magazines even, having as much as 200 rounds on a person. (10 magazines plus 1 in the gun with a capacity of 18 rounds each = 198 rounds plus one in the chamber to start = 199 rounds). Changing magazines from someone experienced and from a readily available magazine can be done in mere seconds (Less than one second from someone very experienced and with a lot of practice, YouTube videos confirm this).

The .45 ACP is one of the larger caliber handgun rounds commonly found and widely commercially produced and available. It was designed by John Browning in 1905 and has been produced since 1910. It is commonly found in the 1911 style handguns which were used from World War 1 to present. Nearly all mass produced handgun manufacturers offer a .45 ACP offering, or more.

The bullet's weight can be from 145 grains going 1,350 feet per second with 587 foot-pounds of energy, to a 230 grain projectile going much slower at 960 ft/sec but still with 471 ft/lbs of energy. These projectiles can be in Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) or Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP) as well as several other Hollow Point (HP) type projectiles. The JHP and HP offer rapid expansion in soft tissue, allowing the transfer of the energy from the projectile into the live target's soft tissue increasing the wound cavity left behind.

There is also Plus P (+P) ammunition that has a higher operating pressure resulting in more FPS and Energy. +P ammunition is commonly found in defensive or duty ammunition. These are only for firearms that are rated for +P ammunition and can be dangerous if fired from a firearm not designed to handle the pressure. Most modern firearms with their quality materials can handle +P ammunition, even if for a limited time and if not specifically rated for +P.

Recoil from a .45 ACP is more than a .40 S&W and 9MM cartridge. The FBI have conducted tests to evaluate the terminal performance and effectiveness of these cartridges and it was determined the .45 ACP did not perform so much better than the .40 S&W and 9mm that it warranted continued adoption. In fact the FBI stated that there was more risk in going with the .45 ACP because of the added recoil and wear on parts and operator. The 9mm has less recoil, but fires a smaller projectile much faster resulting in effectively similar terminal performance in live targets. The lower recoil allows for more accurate shots and faster, more accurate follow up shots. Also 9mm has larger magazine capacities.
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Here is his real picture:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: fluffycat


How sad. He was a nice looking kid.
 Quoting: ~~


But he has not a single tattoo in that pic. And looks really clean cut.
 Quoting: ~~


Those are probably from when he graduated from basic and stuff and are older pictures.

This picture does show him tatted up:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

I can confirm that both of these pictures are coming from a facebook page that shared both of them.
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Another picture:

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 Quoting: fluffycat


He looks too old and puffy to be the same guy. Does it say how old he was when he left the military?
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Posted about this earlier in the thread and I STILL think that the fact that he was wearing a disguise is a detail that MUST be looked into...


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“...Long who wore a black trenchcoat, glasses and beard, is then said to have thrown smoke bombs into the main bar area, before shooting with his legally-purchased Glock .45 caliber handgun without saying a word...”

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