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Planet earth is one screwed up place.

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Thrown under a table out on the patio and then thrown out a glass window. ????
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Um yeah, she’d be on a gurney with the medics
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My guess is the guy might have been dating a college girl or a worker there and was dumped recently.

Having PTSD and maybe meds made him flip.
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piss off on the trolling
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Who's trolling? Epic Beard Guy is right.

Give me your nane and birthday and later when I go into work I can easily gain access and post your prescription and diagnosis history even tough you've never even met me or been my patient.

I wouldn't - it's a violation of law and ethics. But I could. That's the point.
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Emoj is trolling -- that was not his first nasty post
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I am not trolling. Some freaking threads deserve trolling but facts are facts and speculation is just that. It's a fact that HIPPA was created in 1996, LONG before the ACA, that's a FACT.
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Please start a thread about HIPPA if you feel so strongly about the tpic.
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I’m guessing the surveillance cams from inside and outside the bar would help tell the real story. We’ll never see those of course.
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You wont see them because we arent a 3rd world country.
Respect for the families.

Lots of websites with horrible shooting videos from 3rd world countries. Tons of new videos everyday in fact.
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Christine Ford's daughter???
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Maybe the 5g rollout drove him over the edge.
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Wonder if China has fucked with the waves...
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Good point. They rerouted Los Angeles internet traffic through China for two and a half years before being found out.
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Thrown under a table out on the patio and then thrown out a glass window. ????
 Quoting: Far Away


Um yeah, she’d be on a gurney with the medics
 Quoting: Mkjeep


Possibly, the "patio" was enclosed by glass windows, but after all that,she doesn't even look disheveled. They don't do attention to detail very well.
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its gone!
 Quoting: Anonymous Again


OK found a second interview -- this girl is a total fake. She's smiling this whole interview, even apologizes for being awkward because she knows she's smiling.


 Quoting: durbo69


This is bizarre - she said she was outside on the patio, but then said they threw her out a window and then carried her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Again


The ABC interview with her prior to this one is 100x more revealing. She's laughing so hard she says she has to end the interview, turns away laughing, then laughs answering one last question.

I can't find it. Does anyone have a recast of ABC's broadcast? CBS official YouTube has theirs up.
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My guess is the guy might have been dating a college girl or a worker there and was dumped recently.

Having PTSD and maybe meds made him flip.
 Quoting: Deplorable Paw of Oak


He apparently shot the hostess at the front door multiple times when he entered.

Maybe an ex? Possibly.

Oh well, Im going to stop speculating and wait for the story. I have to get things done.
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Veterans go to Iraq, the 'Stans, and Central America, spend several years throwing smoke grenades and clearing buildings, and return--often with injuries+opioids AND PTSD+benzos.

Most of my fellow vets are on 6+ prescriptions, MULTIPLE pain drugs (oxy AND gab) and MULTIPLE ptsd meds (Lexpro AND lorazepam), sometimes THREE.

A lazy-ass teenager on a SINGLE benzo has been proven many times over to lead to violent outbursts, never mind a trained killer with major-ass trauma and a ton of meds.

But no....you won't see this addressed. No way. Too much money made off the VA, and too much liability at stake when the shootings happen.
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My guess is the guy might have been dating a college girl or a worker there and was dumped recently.

Having PTSD and maybe meds made him flip.
 Quoting: Deplorable Paw of Oak


He apparently shot the hostess at the front door multiple times when he entered.

Maybe an ex? Possibly.

Oh well, Im going to stop speculating and wait for the story. I have to get things done.
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Yeah, it's all speculation at this point.
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The dad needs most in the world - a cup of coffee??? I just spit coffee on my computer screen..... OMG!
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The solution to these mass shootings is to ban crazy people, not guns. If a person shows signs of becoming a future killer, lock him up. Don't do it after the fact.
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White dude with mental illness goes nuts with a gun. Anyone suprised?
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Unlike blacks and hispanics where its an every day hobby you mean?
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Gang shootings have a logical reason. It's not random.
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Blacks make up more than half of the violent crime rate in this country, while only being something like 15% of the population. Those violent crimes happen in a handful of cities.

Random or not, one group is killing at alarmingly higher numbers, and another is being labelled as terrorists. Killing sprees and horrific violence is only horrible if you are white and doing it at a fraction of the rate of others I suppose.
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By the way, "white male in his 20s with a beard" describes thousands and thousands of returning vets, especially those from the mideast.

In the old days clean-shaven was the rule, but now every is encouraged to look like a mountain man to visually fit in with the culture over there, and most keep the habit upon returning.
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Veterans go to Iraq, the 'Stans, and Central America, spend several years throwing smoke grenades and clearing buildings, and return--often with injuries+opioids AND PTSD+benzos.

Most of my fellow vets are on 6+ prescriptions, MULTIPLE pain drugs (oxy AND gab) and MULTIPLE ptsd meds (Lexpro AND lorazepam), sometimes THREE.

A lazy-ass teenager on a SINGLE benzo has been proven many times over to lead to violent outbursts, never mind a trained killer with major-ass trauma and a ton of meds.

But no....you won't see this addressed. No way. Too much money made off the VA, and too much liability at stake when the shootings happen.
 Quoting: Zefyr


I imagine most all "random shooters" are on the psych meds that have "suicide/homicidal side effects, but that is never discussed.
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CNN is not even reporting on this story now.

I'm wondering if this guy was a VICTIM, and NOT the shooter.
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of course they're not ,they want to continue to bash Trump
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This girl was interviewed live around 1:30AM on ABC. Really need to find the clip, she couldn't keep it together.

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Replace @ with a.
 Quoting: Insanelysane


its gone!
 Quoting: Anonymous Again


OK found a second interview -- this girl is a total fake. She's smiling this whole interview, even apologizes for being awkward because she knows she's smiling.


 Quoting: durbo69


People who have just been involved in mass shootings ALWAYS laugh and smile. I mean, why wouldn't you?

FFS.
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White dude with mental illness goes nuts with a gun. Anyone suprised?
 Quoting: StubbyClaps


Unlike blacks and hispanics where its an every day hobby you mean?
 Quoting: PopeyeMan


Gang shootings have a logical reason. It's not random.
 Quoting: Iemming


Blacks make up more than half of the violent crime rate in this country, while only being something like 15% of the population. Those violent crimes happen in a handful of cities.

Random or not, one group is killing at alarmingly higher numbers, and another is being labelled as terrorists. Killing sprees and horrific violence is only horrible if you are white and doing it at a fraction of the rate of others I suppose.
 Quoting: GTB


Black boys kill each other selling drugs.

Where does the average 17 year old black kid get that heroin, by the way?

Does his family fly to Afghanistan, plant and grow 10 hectares of poppies, hire 100 locals to process it into heroin while our Army kids guard the process, and then fly it at their own expense to Cuba, load it onto 'fishing boats,' guard the boats with TEX planes as they sneak into Florida, where that family then distributes it nationwide to drop-off points where older men then deliver it to the 17 year old black boy?
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The solution to these mass shootings is to ban crazy people, not guns. If a person shows signs of becoming a future killer, lock him up. Don't do it after the fact.
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Agree.
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Veterans go to Iraq, the 'Stans, and Central America, spend several years throwing smoke grenades and clearing buildings, and return--often with injuries+opioids AND PTSD+benzos.

Most of my fellow vets are on 6+ prescriptions, MULTIPLE pain drugs (oxy AND gab) and MULTIPLE ptsd meds (Lexpro AND lorazepam), sometimes THREE.

A lazy-ass teenager on a SINGLE benzo has been proven many times over to lead to violent outbursts, never mind a trained killer with major-ass trauma and a ton of meds.

But no....you won't see this addressed. No way. Too much money made off the VA, and too much liability at stake when the shootings happen.
 Quoting: Zefyr


I imagine most all "random shooters" are on the psych meds that have "suicide/homicidal side effects, but that is never discussed.
 Quoting: Far Away


Just look at how much money drug companies spend on TV advertising. You think they really need to advertise when your doctor already knows all about that drug and has been given all sorts of "perks" from the drug maker?

Of course not.

The drug companies are buying off the TV news by showering them with billions in advertising.

5a
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Veterans go to Iraq, the 'Stans, and Central America, spend several years throwing smoke grenades and clearing buildings, and return--often with injuries+opioids AND PTSD+benzos.

Most of my fellow vets are on 6+ prescriptions, MULTIPLE pain drugs (oxy AND gab) and MULTIPLE ptsd meds (Lexpro AND lorazepam), sometimes THREE.

A lazy-ass teenager on a SINGLE benzo has been proven many times over to lead to violent outbursts, never mind a trained killer with major-ass trauma and a ton of meds.

But no....you won't see this addressed. No way. Too much money made off the VA, and too much liability at stake when the shootings happen.
 Quoting: Zefyr


I imagine most all "random shooters" are on the psych meds that have "suicide/homicidal side effects, but that is never discussed.
 Quoting: Far Away


Just look at how much money drug companies spend on TV advertising. You think they really need to advertise when your doctor already knows all about that drug and has been given all sorts of "perks" from the drug maker?

Of course not.

The drug companies are buying off the TV news by showering them with billions in advertising.

5a
 Quoting: VegasRick


Yep = profitability + liability = news blackout on drugged-up vets.
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MIND CONTROL FOR THE WEEK SHEEP

Now, every time Trump or Trump's team addresses the incoming BORDER crisis, the week sheep will be programmed to think/feel terrible about it. Guilt might be felt even. This "massacre" just took the heat off of the mob of "refugees" headed our way.
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hmm, hard to use the word "borderline" for some time without thinking of this event here
 Quoting: Ostria1


The vintage WWII plane that crashed just south of "Liberty Canyon" exit off the 101 fwy near Calabasas, (which is a big celebrity neighborhood) on 10/23/18, was 10 miles from the "Borderline".

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But he has not a single tattoo in that pic. And looks really clean cut.
 Quoting: ~~


Those are probably from when he graduated from basic and stuff and are older pictures.

This picture does show him tatted up:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

I can confirm that both of these pictures are coming from a facebook page that shared both of them.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Okay thanks. He must have been in the service for more than one enlistment.
 Quoting: ~~


Took me a bit, but I finally was able to track down the proof that both pictures are of the same guy. Both of these pictures came from the same facebook profile (Colleen Long) as you can see from both of my screenshots:

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

It is confirmed that the second one (the one of him looking young in his uniform) is being used by the media.

[link to www.mirror.co.uk (secure)]

[link to metro.co.uk (secure)]
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Funny there's zero trace of the dude on internet, except for on Colleens page, I found the page (and still have it open) within 5min of his name hitting the web (and way before any photo was out) gone through all the friends and familiy, doesn't have a twitter, doesn't have a facebook, nothing, and I don't know where they got that photo of him on the red soccer tshirt, it's nowhere and doesn't come up in any reverse image searches (though they aren't all that reliable anyways). So they must have got that photo pre-scrub, and the scrub was done before the release of his name.
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who the fuck goes to a bar on a Wednesday night?

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I used too.
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Did I just read "the department believes he too his own life?"

The suspect I'm listening to had three to the chest.
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MIND CONTROL FOR THE WEEK SHEEP

Now, every time Trump or Trump's team addresses the incoming BORDER crisis, the week sheep will be programmed to think/feel terrible about it. Guilt might be felt even. This "massacre" just took the heat off of the mob of "refugees" headed our way.
 Quoting: uhhuh


hmm, hard to use the word "borderline" for some time without thinking of this event here
 Quoting: Ostria1


The vintage WWII plane that crashed just south of "Liberty Canyon" exit off the 101 fwy near Calabasas, (which is a big celebrity neighborhood) on 10/23/18, was 10 miles from the "Borderline".

[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com (secure)]
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the german nazi one
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btw i just checked the global consiousness dot
not sure when this happened though
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Wow Ian looks middle eastern. smh What happened to that, now he's a vet, white guy. I find this hard to believe. What was his provocation and motive? He's too cute to be the killer.
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