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Unlike blacks and hispanics where its an every day hobby you mean?
 Quoting: PopeyeMan


Gang shootings have a logical reason. It's not random.
 Quoting: Iemming


Blacks make up more than half of the violent crime rate in this country, while only being something like 15% of the population. Those violent crimes happen in a handful of cities.

Random or not, one group is killing at alarmingly higher numbers, and another is being labelled as terrorists. Killing sprees and horrific violence is only horrible if you are white and doing it at a fraction of the rate of others I suppose.
 Quoting: GTB


Black boys kill each other selling drugs.

Where does the average 17 year old black kid get that heroin, by the way?

Does his family fly to Afghanistan, plant and grow 10 hectares of poppies, hire 100 locals to process it into heroin while our Army kids guard the process, and then fly it at their own expense to Cuba, load it onto 'fishing boats,' guard the boats with TEX planes as they sneak into Florida, where that family then distributes it nationwide to drop-off points where older men then deliver it to the 17 year old black boy?
 Quoting: Zefyr


I don't mean to come off like a huge dick here, and I'm not disputing anything in your second paragraph, but you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. If you think Black kids are only killing each other over drugs, you are perpetuating a serious problem you seem to genuinely be concerned with fixing (I am in no way faulting you for that btw).

Furthermore, if Black kids are killing over drugs introduced by an outside force, and that absolves them of some responsibility for their actions, how does a Marine with PTSD not qualify for this same "outside influence" kid glove treatment?
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Marine veteran, with extended mag Glock 21 45 caliber.
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Patsy?

What happened to the Arab reports?
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CNN is not even reporting on this story now.

I'm wondering if this guy was a VICTIM, and NOT the shooter.
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That was my first question, it would be easy to do if you send in some special ops...
But there's really no point speculating on this coz we'll never know the full extent of the story anyway.
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A neighbor recently reported him for mental issues and he was considered for 5150, but was not done. He was a marine Corporal machine gunner who was honorably discharged. This is what I'm hearing on the radio.
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Related?

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Funny a Kruezi was just jailed in Australia for a planned attack. I hope this isn't a Five Eyes "trade".
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Marine veteran, with extended mag Glock 21 45 caliber.
 Quoting: Nurse Flesh Hammer


Patsy?

What happened to the Arab reports?
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


This storyline is unFreakinbelievable... the "Narrative Directors" need to be fired
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Agreed. Pretty sure Ian is a victim. Just because he had run in with cops doesn't mean he's the killer.
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Did I just read "the department believes he too his own life?"

The suspect I'm listening to had three to the chest.
 Quoting: Zefyr


So he shot himself three times in the chest?
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Gang shootings have a logical reason. It's not random.
 Quoting: Iemming


Blacks make up more than half of the violent crime rate in this country, while only being something like 15% of the population. Those violent crimes happen in a handful of cities.

Random or not, one group is killing at alarmingly higher numbers, and another is being labelled as terrorists. Killing sprees and horrific violence is only horrible if you are white and doing it at a fraction of the rate of others I suppose.
 Quoting: GTB


Black boys kill each other selling drugs.

Where does the average 17 year old black kid get that heroin, by the way?

Does his family fly to Afghanistan, plant and grow 10 hectares of poppies, hire 100 locals to process it into heroin while our Army kids guard the process, and then fly it at their own expense to Cuba, load it onto 'fishing boats,' guard the boats with TEX planes as they sneak into Florida, where that family then distributes it nationwide to drop-off points where older men then deliver it to the 17 year old black boy?
 Quoting: Zefyr


I don't mean to come off like a huge dick here, and I'm not disputing anything in your second paragraph, but you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. If you think Black kids are only killing each other over drugs, you are perpetuating a serious problem you seem to genuinely be concerned with fixing (I am in no way faulting you for that btw).

Furthermore, if Black kids are killing over drugs introduced by an outside force, and that absolves them of some responsibility for their actions, how does a Marine with PTSD not qualify for this same "outside influence" kid glove treatment?
 Quoting: GTB


Well sure, they also kill each other over beefs (but an overwhelming number of the beefs are from drug/territory disputes).

The Marine, who offered his (misguided) service for something he probably believed was a good cause, has been:

1. Ordered by his commanders to slaughter people including those he KNOWS in his heart he shouldn't slaughter

2. Traumatized and usually injured at some point, that Marine is put, by military medial authorities, on medications they KNOW damn well are addicting and destructive to that Marine and those around him

3. Men sitting around in board rooms--many who have not served, themselves--work night and day to make sure that Marine (and anyone else) has the least chance possible to question i.e. refuse his medication regimen

4. The Army and pharmaceutical men know damn well this kid is a time bomb, and say NOTHING when he is returned stateside to an unsuspecting suburb

So yeah, I don't blame the Marine as much as I might blame the average revenge killer or whomever, although if that civilian is also on painkillers/benzos, they, too, share blame with the Men in Black who make it all possible.

Don't get me wrong--all (or at least most) mass killers share some blame for their actions. But I put more blame on the above-mentioned system.
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its gone!
 Quoting: Anonymous Again


OK found a second interview -- this girl is a total fake. She's smiling this whole interview, even apologizes for being awkward because she knows she's smiling.


 Quoting: durbo69


People who have just been involved in mass shootings ALWAYS laugh and smile. I mean, why wouldn't you?

FFS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Again

False Flag. Whats a leftie doing in a country bar. looks like clinton. But if this was a Veteran, These guys deserve to be looked after,cared for a whole lot more. fuck the caravan free shit army. They probably never worked in their lives.
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You know the video interviews of people having been in there are somewhat odd.

I have never been in a shooting situation thank God. But have been in situations where you had to wait for word on a loved one.

There is no way in hell that if my child were possibly shot and dead inside that bar - would i first off speak to media, much less be coherent enough to say anything - and would never say,”I need a cup of coffee” like the one father did. And also then spend my time on my cell in front of media while they film me when there is a private area inside.

Also, most of the young women didn’t have a single tear, or a bit of fear or even adrenaline showing. It is almost as if they are acting - at least some of them come across like that.
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By the way, "white male in his 20s with a beard" describes thousands and thousands of returning vets, especially those from the mideast.

In the old days clean-shaven was the rule, but now every is encouraged to look like a mountain man to visually fit in with the culture over there, and most keep the habit upon returning.
 Quoting: Zefyr


The guy is described as also having lots of tattoos.

This massacre is like a smaller version of the shooting in Las Vegas last year. Country-western music fans at country-music concert locations, and the mass killers (supposed one in Vegas) being white males.

I don't trust the info released about the killer in Vegas. But the guy in Calif may have had a legitimate history of being a mental case.


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You know the video interviews of people having been in there are somewhat odd.

I have never been in a shooting situation thank God. But have been in situations where you had to wait for word on a loved one.

There is no way in hell that if my child were possibly shot and dead inside that bar - would i first off speak to media, much less be coherent enough to say anything - and would never say,”I need a cup of coffee” like the one father did. And also then spend my time on my cell in front of media while they film me when there is a private area inside.

Also, most of the young women didn’t have a single tear, or a bit of fear or even adrenaline showing. It is almost as if they are acting - at least some of them come across like that.
 Quoting: Only Original Documents


Most hysterical people aren't in the mood to be force-questioned by reporters; as a reporter, if you force-question these folks, you get you ass sued and/or fired.

By definition, the only people media dare interview are those willing to do it i.e. less hysterical (and usually not covered in blood--again with the suing).
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OK found a second interview -- this girl is a total fake. She's smiling this whole interview, even apologizes for being awkward because she knows she's smiling.

 Quoting: Anonymous Again


People who have just been involved in mass shootings ALWAYS laugh and smile. I mean, why wouldn't you?

FFS.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz


Smiling/laughing is actually not an uncommon stress response. A means for people to keep overwhelming emotions in check. There was a woman - Bambi something - who was largely convicted of murdering her children because of her response in front of media. She was probably innocent.

Agreed. Pretty sure Ian is a victim. Just because he had run in with cops doesn't mean he's the killer.
 Quoting: Diabolical


My gut instinct also.
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As a guy with semi-ethnic looks, he'd be a good candidate for SPECOPS or intel overseas; if the tats are real though, that's less likely, and maybe he was in fact a machine-gunner.
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Poor kid. Damn. Poor everybody.

Time for a military-wide revolt to end these criminal, heroin-driven wars.
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Can't find.
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I'm not sure this is the guy. They are saying Alameda is 6 hours away and this guy doesn't look heavily tatted to me.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Alameda is NOT 6 hrs away-its part of Studio City...Jay Leno's show was filmed there.

Its west of LA going towards the coast...
 Quoting: Itl83


Actually, I just now took the time to figure this out and I just did driving directions for Alameda to Thousand Oaks and it came out to 5 hours and 38 minutes, so apparently the 6 hour quote was not that far off.

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Vegas mass shooting was a Country Western event too.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


from
Thread: Former Firefighter EMT early analysis on The Country's Borderline "shooting."
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MIND CONTROL FOR THE WEEK SHEEP

Now, every time Trump or Trump's team addresses the incoming BORDER crisis, the week sheep will be programmed to think/feel terrible about it. Guilt might be felt even. This "massacre" just took the heat off of the mob of "refugees" headed our way.
 Quoting: uhhuh


hmm, hard to use the word "borderline" for some time without thinking of this event here
 Quoting: Ostria1


The vintage WWII plane that crashed just south of "Liberty Canyon" exit off the 101 fwy near Calabasas, (which is a big celebrity neighborhood) on 10/23/18, was 10 miles from the "Borderline".

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the german nazi one
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That's the one!
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Vegas mass shooting was a Country Western event too.
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from
Thread: Former Firefighter EMT early analysis on The Country's Borderline "shooting."
 Quoting: Ostria1


maybe the Black Ops MK-Ultra Spooks
don't like country music?
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Vegas mass shooting was a Country Western event too.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


from
Thread: Former Firefighter EMT early analysis on The Country's Borderline "shooting."
 Quoting: Ostria1


maybe the Black Ops MK-Ultra Spooks
don't like country music?
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we are a conspiracy forum, country music means tradition, country, borders, borderline, and the people present at these events would be mostly whites, maybe conservatives or at least the traditional types.
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I just needed to say...it is called HIPAA not HIPPA! Thanks.rant
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I just needed to say...it is called HIPAA not HIPPA! Thanks.rant
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Blacks make up more than half of the violent crime rate in this country, while only being something like 15% of the population. Those violent crimes happen in a handful of cities.

Random or not, one group is killing at alarmingly higher numbers, and another is being labelled as terrorists. Killing sprees and horrific violence is only horrible if you are white and doing it at a fraction of the rate of others I suppose.
 Quoting: GTB


Black boys kill each other selling drugs.

Where does the average 17 year old black kid get that heroin, by the way?

Does his family fly to Afghanistan, plant and grow 10 hectares of poppies, hire 100 locals to process it into heroin while our Army kids guard the process, and then fly it at their own expense to Cuba, load it onto 'fishing boats,' guard the boats with TEX planes as they sneak into Florida, where that family then distributes it nationwide to drop-off points where older men then deliver it to the 17 year old black boy?
 Quoting: Zefyr


I don't mean to come off like a huge dick here, and I'm not disputing anything in your second paragraph, but you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. If you think Black kids are only killing each other over drugs, you are perpetuating a serious problem you seem to genuinely be concerned with fixing (I am in no way faulting you for that btw).

Furthermore, if Black kids are killing over drugs introduced by an outside force, and that absolves them of some responsibility for their actions, how does a Marine with PTSD not qualify for this same "outside influence" kid glove treatment?
 Quoting: GTB


Well sure, they also kill each other over beefs (but an overwhelming number of the beefs are from drug/territory disputes).

The Marine, who offered his (misguided) service for something he probably believed was a good cause, has been:

1. Ordered by his commanders to slaughter people including those he KNOWS in his heart he shouldn't slaughter

2. Traumatized and usually injured at some point, that Marine is put, by military medial authorities, on medications they KNOW damn well are addicting and destructive to that Marine and those around him

3. Men sitting around in board rooms--many who have not served, themselves--work night and day to make sure that Marine (and anyone else) has the least chance possible to question i.e. refuse his medication regimen

4. The Army and pharmaceutical men know damn well this kid is a time bomb, and say NOTHING when he is returned stateside to an unsuspecting suburb

So yeah, I don't blame the Marine as much as I might blame the average revenge killer or whomever, although if that civilian is also on painkillers/benzos, they, too, share blame with the Men in Black who make it all possible.

Don't get me wrong--all (or at least most) mass killers share some blame for their actions. But I put more blame on the above-mentioned system.
 Quoting: Zefyr


No one gets an order to slaughter people. You clearly never deployed.
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maybe conservatives or at least the traditional types.
 Quoting: Ostria1



We still don't know fully about the politics of the mass killer in Vegas. Questions remain about his wife, her possibly being a Muslim, his being a closeted "death to America" type liberal or not.

There is so much anti-US, "goddamn America" sentiment in general throughout today's world of liberalism/leftism/libtardism, that politics may have to be factored into what motivated the killers in either Vegas or California.

There was, however, enough pro and con about Tuesday's election that a person of the left or right could have been either happy or pissed off.



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Can't remember if this was shared here yet or not:

"KTLA reports that Ian Long targeted a female working as a cashier in the establishment where many people knew each other and would come regularly to learn line dancing.

. . .

Winnett told the news site that Long had gone to the bar where the shooting occurred before and used to practice dance moves alone in his garage."

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This guy a democrat by chance?
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FALSE FLAG is an excuse!
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Can't remember if this was shared here yet or not:

"KTLA reports that Ian Long targeted a female working as a cashier in the establishment where many people knew each other and would come regularly to learn line dancing.

. . .

Winnett told the news site that Long had gone to the bar where the shooting occurred before and used to practice dance moves alone in his garage."

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 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


huh, now their stealing my narrative.





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