Urgent! California fires updates!! 42 casualties! Winds 40 to 70 mph!! Day 3! Extreme fire conditions today for San Diego!

Then when the rains do come... rock & mudslides.

I can assure you that the vast majority of people up in this part of far Northern Calfornia did not vote for this moron.

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MR, after seeing this and other fires and knowing how vulnerable nearly the whole state is, are you fearful of fire? I believe that I would be.

So true; many of the very old if they rented had no insurance.

My friend literally has had a light go out of her eyes. As to putting lives back together, where do you start? She says she will rebuild (as do most of my other friends who have lost homes; but practically how long does that take?). Plus Paradise (and Magalia and Concow) will never be close to the same again.

Oh yes. Actually, I had a close run-in with the Klamathon fire earlier this year (was at a friend’s house) which was terrifying, and have had to evacuate my current property 2x for fires over the last 15 years or so.

My property is nestled in the foothills with acreage and lots of trees. We have very good brush clearance for my house, but that is only a little help in a fire storm like we just had. I always have a bag packed during fire season with my most essential items.

Our skies in this area were smoky from fires from the Klamatihon fire throught the Carr Fire and a couple others; when the skies finally cleared a month ago, I happily thought fire season was over and I unpacked my “go” bag.

The Camp Fire happened outside of normal fire season, when it should not have; if we had had a normal Fall rainy season it never would have.

Also, I haven’t seen it widely reported on, but ifn 2008 Paradise had a bad fire that destroyed 74 homes. After that fire, I always felt a little uneasy driving up to Paradise in fire season...there had been much discussion and planning about evacuation routes and plans after that fire, because there were so few roads in and out. THere was a plan in place for this fire, but it was no match for it.

And, some people who lost their homes in 2008, rebuilt them, and just lost them again.

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Here at the Chico Wal Mart, which has transformed into a tent refuge city for #campfire evacuees. One of the lead volunteers says there are 1,000 people sleeping here

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I don't see any way for Paradise to recover. I don't the extent of destruction in Magalia or Concow which are much smaller, right? Probably none can recover. Imagine being someone whose home survived the fire. Then what? No town. No grocery stores, no garbage service, hospital, no doctors, no dentists, no veterinarians, no drug stores, no auto mechanics, just nothing that is part of a normal community. Life will only be fit for hermits. Why even bother getting utilities back on in such a condition? It would take many, many years to rebuild and then fire can come again.

Yeah, in a big firestorm brush clearance from individual properties may do little. Nobody can clear enough to stop fires in California. It's too dry.

I know this is easy to say but I hope you give serious consideration to moving. Further, if you have pets, if you were miles from home and a fire broke out you could very well not be able to rescue them :(

I recall reading an article, which I may have even posted in this thread, that people in Paradise knew they would likely have another big fire. The same can be said for places like Malibu which has also had terrible fires. It takes a long time to drive in and out of those places and they're fire traps. I was just looking, last night, at pictures of a place called Malibu Lake. I was never aware of it when I lived. Intoxicatingly beautiful and all I could think of while looking at the pics was fire trap. It's like if this year's fire didn't get you, the next or the next after that will.

MR, I just looked through that photo album from the Humbolt fire. So sad. All the signs thanking firefighters and now, probably, all of those places are gone - and maybe some of the people, too. I wonder if the guy who posted that album made it out. His home and business are probably gone.

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Someone take over the posts. I am so emotionally and mentally exhausted. Just keep retweeting Randy and Paula Dodge of 5152 Pentz Rd Paradise CA still missing. #CampFireJamesWoods #JamesWoodsCampFire

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On behalf of my family I would like to thank everyone for being so amazing. Encouraging. And helpful. We found our answer tonight and I just ask for your prayers as we get through this very difficult time. My heart is quite heavy. God will see us through.

Air quality here in San Jose at hazardous levels. I am 211 miles south of the fire. And a big coincidence that my air quality is 211.

Hellishly slow traffic driving through fire


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Do you notice it in terms of it being hard to breath or is it more smelling of smoke/smokey?

I know, right? It’s so sad. I’ll have to ask around about that guy.

I know at least 1 person for sure that lost it all in 2008 and just lost it all again.

This video shows a guy leaving just as the town is catching fire while his wife is stuck in traffic, elsewhere, in labor!


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In Butte County, it smells heavily of smoke. For me, its hard to breathe outside (I have asthma) but not for my husband, although he figures it would be if he tried to exert himself.

Also there is a layer of fine white ash on everything. And you can see the smoke; it’s like fog.

Hard to breathe and eyes are burning when stepping outside.

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we had that all summer, eventually it will irritate your eyes so badly you can hardly see

In 1993, when both Malibu and Laguna had huge fires, I worked in Hermosa Beach, 25 miles south of Malibu, as the crow flies, and ashes fell like snow all over the town. That's a long way for ashes to fly and gives an indication of how big the fire was.

OMG props to that Dad for keeping everyone so calm in that car drive through Camp Fire Armageddon.

I got caught in the Klamathon fire driving up I5 with fire on both sides of the freewy just when the wind grabbed that fire and pushed it quick and far; we got turned around by first responders on the freeway over the median.

BUT, it wasn’t even 1/10th as scary as the drives I’ve seen through the Camp Fire. THe road was much wider; made a huge difference.

All summer? Were there fires near you? IIRC, you're near Sacramento?

Wow; indeed!

We are all talking about how it feels like “nuclear winter” here in Butte County; it’s about 20 degrees less than surrounding areas, so in the 50s, you can barely see the sun and it’s pretty dark. Hope it clears up soon for all the crops in this area (although most have already been harvested).

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He reminded me of a pilot in a plane that's about to crash. Pilots are are always so good at remaining calm. Amazing daddy.

Until the fire, I'd never watched videos of people driving through them. It's terrifying. One minute it looks like you're out and the next another explosion of fire.

Sadly, I think you have the right of it. It’s pretty far down the hill to Chico for services/civilization. And how depressing to have so much destruction all around you.

My girlfriend, in Chico, who took in the lady and critters from Paradise, told me (couple of days ago) it was like 40 degrees in the morning. All of those people in tents must be freezing on top of being so traumatized.

I worry about my friend in Chico. I used to think being in a city provided some barrier to these fires but I don't think so, now.

Deadly California fire could worsen state's homeless crisis

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The #CampFire is still burning in Butte County (35% contained). This is near Cresta along Hwy 70 in Plumas National Forest. Firefighters are currently battling flames off Big Ben Road.

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