Urgent! California fires updates!! 42 casualties! Winds 40 to 70 mph!! Day 3! Extreme fire conditions today for San Diego!

When I think of what I saw in Malibu and Laguna canyons, after the 1993 fires (I went and sandbagged after), I'm astounded how people rebuild. There is no way in hell I would not learn that lesson the first time.

I would feel safe in a place like Palm Springs, where you're getting into just plain sand but who wants to live there? It's the beautiful places that are the most dangerous.

Looks like that gorgeous Malibu Lake area that I mentioned earlier got hit by the Woolsey fire:

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To be fair, you were going to be paying for it regardless - in electricity costs.

Yep, the prettier the area, the more natural disasters seem to abound.

Gosh, that Malibu Lake was a beautiful place!

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SO weird; I don’t normally end up with duplicate posts but that is my second one tonight!

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From that article:

"The housing crisis hit us hard like everywhere else," said Sarah Thomas, program manager of the nonprofit Chico Housing Action Team. "The vacancy rate in Chico is around 1 percent. Now that we’ve lost all these homes in Paradise, there are going to be more people struggling to find a place to live."

Despite the reality that about one in five Californians live in poverty, the median home value in the state is $544,900, and the median two-bedroom rent is $2,750, according to real estate listings site Zillow.

Before the fire started Nov. 8, thousands of lower-income workers and retirees took refuge in Paradise, where the median home price is $200,900, according to the U.S. Census Bureau data.

FEMA has promised help for qualified, displaced residents — up to three months assistance for homeowners and at least one month for renters.

"We do have the funds, and we will help out in every way we can," Gov. Jerry Brown said Wednesday.




WHAT? Why does a homeowner get three months of help and a renter just one and nobody can get on their feet within those time spans. Disaster upon disaster.

Article also mentioned the Red Cross. My friend in Chico, who is a nurse who's been working with evacuees, said the Red Cross has been worthless. they hand out blankets and pillows and tell people to sign up with FEMA if they want anything else. I despise the Red Cross and United Way. They bring in fortunes and just line their own pockets and that's it. About the equivalent of the Clinton Foundation. IOW, FRAUD. Why is it allowed???

Yeah, look at it in Google images. It was like the Garden of Eden or something!

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yep, that kind of story is too frequent, there's not sufficient oversight of these charities taking place

aww. Those poor kids. That is so scary. Wish I could send them our rain and cold weather.

thank you Pg&E

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That's a lot. Too many. My heart goes out to them.

Fuck them. They should be charged for Terrorism.

"the deadliest since 1918, when a wildfire in northern Minnesota killed an estimated 1,000 people."

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We all know that the CAMP FIRE total is going to continue to go up.

It is doubtful that we'll ever know exactly how many died.

There are people that just split and go start a new life. Using this disaster as a cover for a clean separation from their prior family.
That happened with the St Helens eruption.

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Non stop and now many losing power and having to be still in NE from ice

Norovirus outbreak now in the California shelters.

"On Wednesday, a shelter housing more than 150 people evacuated from the deadly Camp Fire in California reported evacuees being struck down with a bug."

"According to Fox News, Lisa Almaguer, spokeswoman for the Butte County Public Health Department, told the paper fire evacuees at the Oroville Church of the Nazarene shelter, where roughly 166 people are staying, are also exhibiting norovirus symptoms."

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dead is a FAR CRY from a thousand dead ...you must really be young to not know ... cali burns EVERY year ... yes there are some thing that could be done to control the burns, and some years are drier than others ... but there is never gonna be a year when cali doesn't burn ... that is just the way it IS ... it burns, it shakes and it slides

Not only does the Red Cross only provide the bare minimum of shelters, but they also prevent churches and other shelters from even opening. During the Oroville Dam crisis, my church opened a shelter—we allowed small animals, provided meals, wifif and communications. But we were not an authorized shelter, and now we are registered and we were told by Red Cross who now centralizes all this that we were not needed—with 100s and 100s of people staying at the Wal Mart parking lot. How does that make sense? Lots of people won’t go to the Red Cross shelters.

And yes, I am happy for what the Red Cross does; just mentioning some issues.

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More: lawyers suing PG&E for damages from catastrophic fires note that the company's meteorologists were watching the situation & power was NOT turned off in a preventive manner prior to Camp Fire.

Weather observations and forecasting decisions ... (?)

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Just a side note ... Keep in mind that most if not all of the homes here have wood siding or CDX plywood and composition roofs. Also the houses are in a forest that sheds pine needles and tree leaves ALL of the time. One spark and this is the fuel for the fire.

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Even inside, the recent #airquality has potentially done as much damage as smoking a cigarette every day for a year. Protect yourself with respiratory masks that are NIOSH-approved (marked N95, N100 or P100); these masks can help filter out particles.

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People should tell the Red Cross to eat shit and go about with their shelters however they see fit.

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A list of those still missing in Camp Fire: 297 names and counting

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Why PG&E Stock Just Dropped Another 24%
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PG&E Corp. Down 29% as of now
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PG&E stock slammed afresh on concern over California utility’s wildfire liability
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California Utility Customers May Be on Hook for Billions in Wildfire Damage
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