Urgent! California fires updates!! 42 casualties! Winds 40 to 70 mph!! Day 3! Extreme fire conditions today for San Diego!

Rain should be starting at any moment near the fire area.

Per the reports yesterday they were expecting between 3" to 5" in the areas still burning and those affected by the fire.

Obviously that amount of steady rain will cause a dramatic drop in the fire continuing to spread, should be to virtually nothing, though some areas where they fire is well embedded into fallen trees etc. could see the smoldering go on for some time.

In the "recovery" areas it will make things a bloody muddy mess ... and those living in tents will have their lives disrupted again.

Ever since the fire I have been wondering why the Government didn't provide decent emergency tents for those who evacuated. Not a long term solution obviously ... but at least get the people under an organized shelter situation, if they wish to use them - NOT mandatory, with decent sanitation.

The US military has an ability to put up large tent cities with everything required for hundreds to thousands to live in, and does it regularly when it deploys, why couldn't this have been done in this situation where there was/is a lack of immediate shelter for the fire victims?

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Almost 1 million people are under flash flood watch in Northern California, where 4 to 6 inches of rain are expected to fall through Friday.

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Last Edited by joinca on 11/21/2018 11:15 AM

Yes...it looks like EPIC rain is coming over these burn areas..DAMs are going to fill again...another Oroville thread awaits Mikey!!!

Very sad and scary for those in the way..thoughts and prayers...stay safe everyone.

Based on the computer models, I agree. Lol

Because your government started these fires and the reason they didnt deploy military tents ....they just give 0 fucks unless they are there to bomb and kill people.

Have you guys been watching any of the Juan Brown videos posted in the fire threads? He's the commercial pilot who lives in northern CA (Nevada county, one over from Butte, I believe). In one of most recent updates he explained that the land up in Butte is granite and, while subject to flash floods, it's not landslide prone. That's a problem for southern California. When I lived out, I did some sandbagging after big fires followed by landslides. Some houses were filled with mud five feet deep and it happens fast in those canyons. I suspect it will be another disaster for the people who endured the Woolsey fire.

Rained pretty good most of the day. One of our problems now is shallow rooted trees coming down.

I watched the guy rescue his badly burned cat from
under a melted car before seeing this...I was crying
from the video and then I saw this IT TURNED TO ANGER.

Political insanity and CRIMINAL MISMANAGEMENT OF FORESTS
is at the bottom of ALL THIS SUFFERING.

This is a national tragedy...It was unnecessary and
OF COURSE HAS A "MONEY TRAIL"...SOMEONE GOT RICH.


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FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL OF CORRUPT FOREST
MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS. THEY SHOULD BE JAILED.

This will make you cry...

I really like him because he doesn't deal in anything but facts and logic. His other video that shows the power lines running through the canyon and explains the generation from the Oroville dam is really educational, too. None of this rules out arson and Agenda 21/30 but he helps people see just how easy it is for these places to catch fire.

PEOPLE DIED IN THE PARADISE FIRE BECAUSE AGENDA 21 ROAD PLANNING TRAPPED THEM IN THE CITY



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Very good video, sseess.

The number of people still missing has dropped on Sunday to 249.
Most people were in shelters or staying in hotels and friends and didnt even know they were on the list.
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Last Edited by Ostria1 on 11/25/2018 09:45 AM

I spent a lot of summers in Paradise as a child. I remember how dry it was and the dirt was a fine red dust. Everywhere you looked there were groves of Manzanita. It seemed like an invasive species, really, it was EVERYWHERE.

Certainly good fuel! But where is it now in the "after" pictures? The other trees survived, for the most part, it seems. It's as if it was introduced just for that purpose:

MANZANITA
Arctostaphylos viscida
Manzanita firewood or wood for smoking

Manzanita firewood burns long and very hot. Manzanita is a shrub or small tree in the Western US that typically only reaches a height of 6′-8′ tall. Pieces will typically be small and usually crooked, but this dense hardwood will put out a lot of heat, so use it with caution, I have seen stoves glow red from loading it up with too much of this wood. When burning it in a stove, it’s best to build small fires or mix it with other species of wood.

Manzanita firewood will produce a nice bed of coals that will radiate intense heat. Be careful if you stir the coals because they can crackle and throw glowing hot cinders when disturbed. It’s an intense firewood species, but when used with caution it can make excellent firewood.

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It's not an invasive species.

Interesting info about Manzanita here:

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That missing number has been all over the place and I hope it keeps going down as people are located alive. Last I heard the confirmed death toll is 84. I suspect that will go up.

The fire is controled.

California Flaming Mounds Compilation and Bags of Mulch Burning into Nothing



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Cool, thanks for that article. The thing is, it was all over, as I recall and not "safe" as described in the article because it was everywhere......would have made great fuel and I did not see any (maybe they are there) in the after photos.

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Douglas Gabriel interviews Robert Otey in his first-hand account of what it was like on the ground as the California firestorm broke out.



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Either works.

Being Feather River rock and with the loss if vegetation who needs a mudslide?

Floods kill more than most other disasters.

As a wildland firefighter of 40 years I'll define my prejudice quickly.

I dislike Manzanita.

Thin it way back especially near what you wish to preserve.

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Paradise Lost # 20 ~ @ 50,000 Murdered !!!...A Matter of Genocide



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Undeniable evidence the fires were intentional and only could've been deep state.

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