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Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......

 
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Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
Lots of people try to make out Lucifer/Satan as the good guy and God/YHVH as being some evil tyrant or malicious demiurge. They try to say that God kept us in darkness and ignorance and filled the world with violence and evil and so forth. They make out Lucifer to be some savior of humanity who brought us wisdom and defied God and is the good guy overall.

But if this is true, how come Lucifer has not made the world a better place? Let's say that he really did launch a successful rebellion against YHVH who was merely a demiurge. We still have evil and we have this even more abundantly now than before? There have been countless genocides, organized wickedness, disease, war, etc. and it would appear that this Lucifer is either incapable of changing this or unwilling to. Either he would not be as powerful as YHVH in the first place, even if YHVH was merely a demiurge, or Lucifer would have no desire to change those evil things put in place long before his rebellion.

Basically, how can any Luciferian or Satanist claim that Lucifer/Satan is the good guy if he hasn't even made any effort to fix or change these evils in the world that were supposedly the fault of YHVH in the first place??? We don't have any paradise on Earth and people have only grown more corrupt and wicked. Whatever light this being gave humanity did nothing to benefit us in the long run. If Lucifer was really the true god of this world, he obviously would be just as evil as any demiurge or, worse yet, less powerful because he is unable to undo any of the evil that was already here when we as a species were supposedly kept in the dark of this "Luciferian enlightenment". It makes no sense to follow this being or concept as being good or positive at all.
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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
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Satan has organized many "religious" cults.

The word "occult" means to "hide or conceal a thing." Cults are those who are part of the occult, those who hide and conceal evil behind the cloak of religion. But even more dangerous, Satan has set up his system in amongst true Believers through evil people who have "crept in unawares".

Jude 1:4: For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Through "spiritual wickedness in high places" Satan aims for the total allegiance of man. He uses false cults, his own church of Satan, government controlled 501(c) religious organizations (churches) and infiltration into the Body of Christ to accomplish this purpose.

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This is my basic argument for saying that all leadership is either incompetent or bad, usually both.
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This is my basic argument for saying that all leadership is either incompetent or bad, usually both.
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I'd say bad.

They didn't get where they got by being stupid

They know how to manipulate people
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Lucifer is the God of rebellion. America was founded on rebellion. Guess the God of America?
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Lucifer is the God of rebellion. America was founded on rebellion. Guess the God of America?
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Rebellion AGAINST the True God of The Bible abounds in America.

The U.S. is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13.
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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
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The one true god of this human world, yes, he is, but not of the Universe.
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So we can logically assume that if Lucifer is the god of this world, there is no way that he is a good guy in any way. Evil still exists and flourishes so he obviously chooses not to end this or he is unable to do so.

I am a Christian and I believe he is evil obviously, but I see so many hipster Luciferians now who see him as the good guy. They think that God in the Bible is some evil monster and Lucifer is the hero coming in to save the day but logically, he would either continue the evil occurring or he would be unable to stop this so he has no real power anyway.

Dark days for our country and world, Satan is openly glorified and God is openly mocked. I'm longing for the Lord to come back and just makes all things right again. I'm sure that I am not alone.
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So we can logically assume that if Lucifer is the god of this world, there is no way that he is a good guy in any way. Evil still exists and flourishes so he obviously chooses not to end this or he is unable to do so.

I am a Christian and I believe he is evil obviously, but I see so many hipster Luciferians now who see him as the good guy. They think that God in the Bible is some evil monster and Lucifer is the hero coming in to save the day but logically, he would either continue the evil occurring or he would be unable to stop this so he has no real power anyway.

Dark days for our country and world, Satan is openly glorified and God is openly mocked. I'm longing for the Lord to come back and just makes all things right again. I'm sure that I am not alone.
 Quoting: LumpyDumDum


That's how slick he is ;)

He's made bad to look good...snowflake stuff

Good to look bad or weak

He fooled me into thinking being proud of my intellegence was a great thing. Lmao I really did fall for that and I don't even think I'm that smart anymore
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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
So we can logically assume that if Lucifer is the god of this world, there is no way that he is a good guy in any way. Evil still exists and flourishes so he obviously chooses not to end this or he is unable to do so.

I am a Christian and I believe he is evil obviously, but I see so many hipster Luciferians now who see him as the good guy. They think that God in the Bible is some evil monster and Lucifer is the hero coming in to save the day but logically, he would either continue the evil occurring or he would be unable to stop this so he has no real power anyway.

Dark days for our country and world, Satan is openly glorified and God is openly mocked. I'm longing for the Lord to come back and just makes all things right again. I'm sure that I am not alone.
 Quoting: LumpyDumDum

Create a "system of a down" then control and guide the would be rebellion in preordained directions, you have to understand the modus operandi of this torture machine creation, created specifically to piss people off just enough to make them stay angry and hopeless unable to think straight because there is just no relief anywhere, then keep pushing until some explode and make mass murder to further enforce control mechanisms.
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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
 Quoting: Hollister Erica


The Bible says that.
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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
Lucifer is the God of rebellion. America was founded on rebellion. Guess the God of America?
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Rebellion AGAINST the True God of The Bible abounds in America.

The U.S. is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13.
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 Quoting: Kiss_Your_Illusions_Goodbye


You keep saying this crap. It's funny.
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Lucifer is the God of rebellion. America was founded on rebellion. Guess the God of America?
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Rebellion AGAINST the True God of The Bible abounds in America.

The U.S. is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13.
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 Quoting: Kiss_Your_Illusions_Goodbye


You keep saying this crap. It's funny.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


It is Truth.

Joshua 24:14-15: Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord.

15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
Satan says serve thyself, do as thou wilt.


It doesn't work in the long run.


Many people pretend to be benevolent as they secretly think their pretend benevolence will benefit them above others.

It's a mathematical impossibility.

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Satan says serve thyself, do as thou wilt.


It doesn't work in the long run.


Many people pretend to be benevolent as they secretly think their pretend benevolence will benefit them above others.

It's a mathematical impossibility.
 Quoting: Swordtongue


Or even if they are above the manipulation aspect they take pride in their benevolence
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Satan says serve thyself, do as thou wilt.


It doesn't work in the long run.


Many people pretend to be benevolent as they secretly think their pretend benevolence will benefit them above others.

It's a mathematical impossibility.
 Quoting: Swordtongue


Or even if they are above the manipulation aspect they take pride in their benevolence
 Quoting: Hollister Erica


True as well.
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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
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The Bible says that.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


Lucifer is NOT Satan.
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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
 Quoting: Hollister Erica


The Bible says that.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


Lucifer is NOT Satan.
 Quoting: LTHN.

If Satan is God here, Lucifer is the Good guy

Two different roles, the accuser and light bringer

Or maybe its false light then both are wack

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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
 Quoting: Hollister Erica


The Bible says that.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


Lucifer is NOT Satan.
 Quoting: LTHN.


Is too

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I believe Lucifer is the true god of this world and that's why it sucks
 Quoting: Hollister Erica


The Bible says that.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


Lucifer is NOT Satan.
 Quoting: LTHN.

If Satan is God here, Lucifer is the Good guy

Two different roles, the accuser and light bringer

Or maybe its false light then both are wack
 Quoting: Balloons


False light. Two sides of the same evil coin.
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If priests and pastors taught the truth everyone would walk out.
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If priests and pastors taught the truth everyone would walk out.
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Yes, they would.

Two well written articles at the links below that discuss this issue in-depth:

FALSE Preachers and Their Lies of Omission
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FALSE Preachers and Their Lies of Omission - part 2
[link to www.kissyourillusionsgoodbye.com]
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Lots of people try to make out Lucifer/Satan as the good guy and God/YHVH as being some evil tyrant or malicious demiurge. They try to say that God kept us in darkness and ignorance and filled the world with violence and evil and so forth. They make out Lucifer to be some savior of humanity who brought us wisdom and defied God and is the good guy overall.

But if this is true, how come Lucifer has not made the world a better place? Let's say that he really did launch a successful rebellion against YHVH who was merely a demiurge. We still have evil and we have this even more abundantly now than before? There have been countless genocides, organized wickedness, disease, war, etc. and it would appear that this Lucifer is either incapable of changing this or unwilling to. Either he would not be as powerful as YHVH in the first place, even if YHVH was merely a demiurge, or Lucifer would have no desire to change those evil things put in place long before his rebellion.

Basically, how can any Luciferian or Satanist claim that Lucifer/Satan is the good guy if he hasn't even made any effort to fix or change these evils in the world that were supposedly the fault of YHVH in the first place??? We don't have any paradise on Earth and people have only grown more corrupt and wicked. Whatever light this being gave humanity did nothing to benefit us in the long run. If Lucifer was really the true god of this world, he obviously would be just as evil as any demiurge or, worse yet, less powerful because he is unable to undo any of the evil that was already here when we as a species were supposedly kept in the dark of this "Luciferian enlightenment". It makes no sense to follow this being or concept as being good or positive at all.
 Quoting: LumpyDumDum


To the outside observer the Bible version of Lucifer appears to be a scapegoat tool used to instill fear and paranoia to the masses as well as being blamed for the vileness humans are capable of.

There are other versions that make more sense to me (without worship, obsession, fear, etc)


This a true story, based on experience. You and others will know that this is so.

The Prince of Darkness, Lucifer, the Light Bringer undertook eons ago the greatest sacrifice out of cosmic love. He, the most beautiful of angels, agreed to descend to the darkest corners of the Universe, to bring the Cosmic Light of Spirit to the densest of matter, thus helping to raise the vibration from inside.

His sacrifice consisted in the fact that he had to be separated from the Source, alone in his magnificence, surrounded by beings that had yet to know the Light of the Spirit. With time he forgot his true essence, he transformed from the most beautiful Dragon to a strange creature made out of flesh, but in doing so he learned to wield the mighty powers of darkness, the magnetism of the Black Hole which rests in the center of the earth, the Womb of Gaia where matter is continuously reforged to be fit as material for the sparks of spirit.

He forgot his true self so much, caught in the darkest of matter, that he almost lost his awareness, almost. And during his deep slumber, some parasites from another corner of the Multiverse saw the opportunity to profit from the unknowing children of Gaia.

And where the Prince of Darkness used greed and lust of the children of matter to lure them to understand life, because they didn't had the power to learn life by themselves; the parasites used the same greed and lust to spread death and to extract the life energy from their unknowingly hosts. They shaped lust and greed into a grand scheme of money, dark drugs, unnatural sex, death weapons and they enjoyed the show, watching the children of Gaia destroying themselves to death.

But one day, the Prince woke up to the Light Inside. And he saw destruction and death everywhere, in his beloved kingdom. And he felt all the suffering of Gaia, it was unbearable. First, he tried to spread his mighty wings and fly high above, but he could not do it, he could not do it alone. He desperately tried to get his smaller brothers and children to fly with him, so that together they could renew the life of Gaia, but they were still too weak.

Then he remembered that he is not only an Archangel of Light, but that he also became the Prince of Darkness and he tried to use the dark magnetism to lure his children away from the death trap they were heading.

Then he looked up to the sky, and he saw the Balance of the World so unbalanced, with the Light Pole barely hanging on. It was on the verge of breaking. So much darkness everywhere: fear, hate, loneliness; and so little love. All his court of fairies and elves tainted by the evil poison of the parasite.

And in that very moment of infinite pain and infinite love, he found again the Source in his very core. He was reborn, the master of time, the master of matter, Half Light and Half Dark with the Heart standing in the middle to keep the Balance of the World in perfect equilibrium.

And then he got back to work, fully reconnected with the Source, to clean up the mess made by the parasites, and to restore Heaven on Earth, so that every being could know True Life again, carefully nurtured by their Mother Gaia, the Eternal Goddess of Love, and with the Angels of Light and Darkness guiding them through the long voyage back Home.
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Or this one

THE STORY OF THE GREATEST ANGEL OF LIGHT

It was only a few days into THE Beginning that The SOURCE, Creator of ALL, The Source of ALL Creation, GOD realized that there was a necessity for a meeting of all of the angelic realm and a consensus reached if duality (one of the better creations) was going to succeed. God sent out a memo letting each of the cherubim, seraphim, thrones, powers, archangels and angels of all degrees know that a meeting was being called in THE BOARD ROOM and that a great decision was to be made.

The entire angelic realm showed up on the appointed day (of course, since they only know the Divine Will) and each angel was intently curious about what the question was going to be that could be SO important that God would call every single angel into this meeting. They were arranged by rank with the most important archangels seated nearest the throne of Almighty Source. Everyone was there - Uriel, Metatron, Gabriel, Ariel, Raphael, Michael, Lucifer, Samiel - all of the mighty names appeared in person to sit next to the throne of God as He called the meeting to order.

"We have before us a very grave decision. I am going to need the help of every angel of every rank. It seems that there is duality that has not been created and I am not going to create it alone. It takes something and someone much more important to create this piece. It has to do with the planet Earth in the Milky Way Galaxy which is going to form in another several billion years. This planet is going to be the home of a particular creation that is going to experience duality for Me. And there is a problem. I AM ONE and I need to be dual to create the opposite so that the creation which will be called Man will be able to learn by contrast how to experience the Love that I AM." All of this God said and not an angel spoke a word. You could have heard a pin drop (if there were a pin TO drop) it was so silent.

God continued, "I am calling for a volunteer. I need one angel, most likely an archangel, to hold the opposite end of the energy vibration that is known as Love. I need an angel who is strong enough, bright enough and who loves Source enough that it can hold the opposite end of the energy spectrum which will be called Fear. This angel must be capable of enduring endless hardship, be hated by mankind as the most abominable entity imaginable, have horrible actions done in its name and be thought of as the ruler of a place mankind will create called Hell. All of this must this angel do out of love for mankind so that my second finest creation (angels being the first) may come to know what Love really is, experience a polar world and allow Source to truly experience ALL."

After this last part of the announcement, a loud shuffling of chairs was heard as many of the angels of all ranks and dominions left the Board Room Chamber. No one wanted to take the part that would be opposite of Love for that would be like taking the part that would be the opposite of God. By the time silence was again "heard", there were very few angels left and only a handful of higher or archangels. Some of the cherubim and seraphim had also stayed though they were of no mind to take on this part in the Divine Play.

God sat looking at what was left of the "staff" and held the Divine Space for someone to come forward. And then a voice was heard. It was a mighty voice, one like the north wind when it blows through the tundras in Alaska through the wet, cold nights. It was the voice of Lucifer. "I will play this part with you, Oh Mighty One. My love for You and my love for your creations knows no bounds. I KNOW that I AM strong enough for you have made me that strong. I KNOW that I have enough love to hold the opposite energetic end of Love for you have created within me ever-enduring Love and I will not forget Who I AM for I AM You - as are all of your creations. I have the strength, the brightness, the might and the courage to hold the opposite end of Love with you, God, for all eternity if that is what is required."

God was SO pleased. His best, his brightest, his bravest archangel was going to take the job and hold the opposite end with and for Him. He had really created WELL! It looked like the Board Meeting could come to an end and God was about to adjourn the few remaining members when it became apparent that Lucifer had another few words to say - and these words were to Archangel Michael. "Michael, my brother," he said, "I have one reminder for you before we part. I am going to a place where you cannot go. I am going alone. We will meet many times upon the path before this Play is over. I ask that you remember that we are the same every time you see my face. I ask that every time you raise your sword at me in the name of Source, you remember I AM Source. If you will remember to do this, mankind will learn the lesson of contrast more gracefully and my job will be easier. Will you agree to this?"

And Michael, as great an archangel as Lucifer himself, knelt on one knee before his Mighty, Courageous Brother and bowing his head, he said, "Yes, I will agree. Give me your blessing before we begin our roles in this Divine Drama." And, as Lucifer placed his hand upon Archangel Michael's head, the horns of triumph could be heard blowing throughout the entire Universe for now God's plan was complete and mankind would be born - born into duality, into a world of polarity, so that Source could experience what it is like to separate to experience the ALL and then, once again, become One.
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You are not alone. There are many who long for the days when morality was a given. When you remove God you leave room for nothing other then evil.
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The Bible says that.
 Quoting: BUD WHITE


Lucifer is NOT Satan.
 Quoting: LTHN.

If Satan is God here, Lucifer is the Good guy

Two different roles, the accuser and light bringer

Or maybe its false light then both are wack
 Quoting: Balloons


False light. Two sides of the same evil coin.
 Quoting: LumpyDumDum


Eh I think light bringer was a accurate name for the devil before he fell. He just got too wise for his own britches. I think that's the irony of the whole thing.

God named or delegated him light bringer. It went to his head and whtap dancerot kicked out. I think he was originally good light or knowledge then he flipped the script when he got tossed out like a lil punk.
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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
YHVH is not evil, and Lucifer is not good.

There's a bunch of stuff out there that effectively supports the Masonic doctrine that Lucifer is the one to worship.

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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
YHVH is not evil, and Lucifer is not good.

There's a bunch of stuff out there that effectively supports the Masonic doctrine that Lucifer is the one to worship.

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 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Like I've said time to time before here on GLP, Lucifer's people long ago Corrupted the Holy Bible. They edited the Holy Bible and burned their Corrupt energies into it. It's a part of the reason why Christianity is much less than a shadow of it's original self over a thousand years ago.
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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
Lots of people try to make out Lucifer/Satan as the good guy and God/YHVH as being some evil tyrant or malicious demiurge. They try to say that God kept us in darkness and ignorance and filled the world with violence and evil and so forth. They make out Lucifer to be some savior of humanity who brought us wisdom and defied God and is the good guy overall.

But if this is true, how come Lucifer has not made the world a better place? Let's say that he really did launch a successful rebellion against YHVH who was merely a demiurge. We still have evil and we have this even more abundantly now than before? There have been countless genocides, organized wickedness, disease, war, etc. and it would appear that this Lucifer is either incapable of changing this or unwilling to. Either he would not be as powerful as YHVH in the first place, even if YHVH was merely a demiurge, or Lucifer would have no desire to change those evil things put in place long before his rebellion.

Basically, how can any Luciferian or Satanist claim that Lucifer/Satan is the good guy if he hasn't even made any effort to fix or change these evils in the world that were supposedly the fault of YHVH in the first place??? We don't have any paradise on Earth and people have only grown more corrupt and wicked. Whatever light this being gave humanity did nothing to benefit us in the long run. If Lucifer was really the true god of this world, he obviously would be just as evil as any demiurge or, worse yet, less powerful because he is unable to undo any of the evil that was already here when we as a species were supposedly kept in the dark of this "Luciferian enlightenment". It makes no sense to follow this being or concept as being good or positive at all.
 Quoting: LumpyDumDum


The truth is that without the dark, we can't see the light. Lucifer/Satan/Evil lies within the heart of God.
It comes with free will.

the Lucifer principle makes you a slave.
You sell your soul, your free will in exchange of temporary pleasure.

You end up a slave of :
-your reptilian brain
-your life style
-your past
-your masters


And when you can no longer serve the master, the master will dispose of you ,like the empty carcass that you have become.
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Re: Problem with the whole "Lucifer/Satan is the good guy" concept......
So we can logically assume that if Lucifer is the god of this world, there is no way that he is a good guy in any way. Evil still exists and flourishes so he obviously chooses not to end this or he is unable to do so.

I am a Christian and I believe he is evil obviously, but I see so many hipster Luciferians now who see him as the good guy. They think that God in the Bible is some evil monster and Lucifer is the hero coming in to save the day but logically, he would either continue the evil occurring or he would be unable to stop this so he has no real power anyway.

Dark days for our country and world, Satan is openly glorified and God is openly mocked. I'm longing for the Lord to come back and just makes all things right again. I'm sure that I am not alone.
 Quoting: LumpyDumDum


You using this logic as a Christian doesn't make sense either. For example replace "Lucifer" with "God" in your first paragraph:


So we can logically assume that if God is the god of this world, there is no way that he is a good guy in any way. Evil still exists and flourishes so he obviously chooses not to end this or he is unable to do so.






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