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The cat fighting is getting really annoying...
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Mmm, not as much as the aggressive angry posts that fill half the thread. What are we to do, all leave and let the thread die?
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No I just hate the petty arguing.

I have kids that argue all the time too.

This used to be a place of enlightened debate.

Now it just feels like a bunch of crazy dogs chasing their tails.
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Yes I know what you mean. It's come down to folk slinging their poo at folk, as most of the old folk have moved on to less trolly places, or even better, dropped out completely to pursue a true and authentic practice, instead of flirting with a virtual concept of a practice online.

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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
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So Seb since you know what's really going on here tell us. Use your own words though and don't use some guru's words to do it.
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I make no predictions about the future, nor do I focus on the past. Everyone has some storyline they are desperately hanging on to, some magical something or other that will sweep in and change everything, fix/destroy everything. None of that is happening. The great wheel of life turns as it has always turned, with ups and downs. On the macro-scale as well as the micro-scale, it's all waves on the ocean, and we surf the waves as best we can, or get tumbled about like weeds in the wind. One makes some interpretation, based off some ancient manuscripts written for completely different purposes, and exclaims, "Oh this is happening!" or "That is going to happen!", not realizing that this is another verse written into the script of a Matrix of one's own making. In reality no thing is happening, ever, and this no-thingness contains all things, the entire universe. No thing that you experience is anything other than the fabric of your own consciousness, and we have a responsibility to ensure that we are not coloring this consciousness with irresponsible things. Literally, what you seem to be looking at right now is nothing other than a fabrication of your own brain, claims science. All things are like this, your thoughts, feelings, beliefs, etc.

Thus, at the highest levels of spiritual practice, we are told to forget everything, to unknow everything, to not get distracted by side-effects, and delve deeper into the unknowning, where no thing exists, not even existence.

The very act of writing this goes against what I have written, because none of this can be described. No one can be told what the Matrix is, one must experience it for oneself.
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Codswallop.
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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
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Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1

Essentially, the whole anomabody phenomena is a crowd-sourced fictional story being written by every who participates, and is not in fact actual spiritual reality.

chuckle

Thus, some of us take the opportunity to input actual real world stuff into the nonsense, for those who are interested in dropping the play thing and moving on to the real stuff, based upon real world practices, following the teachings of real Teachers.

hf
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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1

Essentially, the whole anomabody phenomena is a crowd-sourced fictional story being written by every who participates, and is not in fact actual spiritual reality.

chuckle

Thus, some of us take the opportunity to input actual real world stuff into the nonsense, for those who are interested in dropping the play thing and moving on to the real stuff, based upon real world practices, following the teachings of real Teachers.

hf
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Sure, sure. That's a lot of excuses.
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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1
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That Is Your Perspective.

As Long As It's Not Disingenuous.

Otherwise Some One Might Have A Problem With You Or It Confuses Things In General.

bert-TIAll
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It's what I've been saying all year, and so far no one has proved me wrong.

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The problem with the make-believe story is that it mostly ignores the actual real world practices, which people have accomplished and attained fulfillment from, for thousands upon thousands of years, through various traditions, and replaces it with.. well.. nonsense. New Agey stuff, most of which is nonsense or very entry level practices sold as "the secret!", written by folk making a quick buck off the popularity of that particular fad.
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Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

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Exactly. Everyone is inputting to the development. When you keep pushing your narrative on others you are doing the same as everyone else. You're telling the archetype what YOU want included. The squabbles are part of the negotiations. How the archetype uses us to decide how it will serve humanity best.

Even people living in the jungle who have never seen a computer are giving input.
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Now for something completely different :)

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Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

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Exactly. Everyone is inputting to the development. When you keep pushing your narrative on others you are doing the same as everyone else. You're telling the archetype what YOU want included. The squabbles are part of the negotiations. How the archetype uses us to decide how it will serve humanity best.

Even people living in the jungle who have never seen a computer are giving input.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


:giggle:

You are trying to create yourself a new god, but I don't care about that, that is your personal agenda and not that of anyone else. I just care about real and authentic spiritual growth, not this pulling wool over people's eyes to obscure them even further from their Freedom, something that a certain class of worldly citizens are strongly against, if you get my drift.

My narrative is don't create a narrative. Don't create no-narrative. Stop creating more virtual clouds obscuring the clear light of your being. That is my narrative.

hf
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I forgot to do this earlier, my bad. chuckle

*pulls down flag of intent to comment*

I may or may not comment more here, but I've said my peace here, found my muse, and expect the next thread will be more of the same.

Take care all. cheers

*Bows and exits thread left*
Art is King.
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*Bows and exits thread left*
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See you next time, good buddy!

cheers
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Heh I am enjoying that Osho vid I randomly found and posted without listening to it before hand..

"Unless a person is capable to live without asking for meaning, moment to moment, beautifully, blissfully, for no reason at all.. Just to breathe is enough.. Why you ask for what? Why you make life a business? Is not love enough?"

He also addresses what I posted higher up, coincidentally enough.

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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1

Essentially, the whole anomabody phenomena is a crowd-sourced fictional story being written by every who participates, and is not in fact actual spiritual reality.

chuckle

Thus, some of us take the opportunity to input actual real world stuff into the nonsense, for those who are interested in dropping the play thing and moving on to the real stuff, based upon real world practices, following the teachings of real Teachers.

hf
 Quoting: *Random*


This Sounds Like Deception In My Opinion.

Your Real World Stuff Is The Same As What Is Happening In These Threads.

These Threads Are An Evolving Understanding Of Who We Really Are And The True Nature Of Reality.

Your Spiritual "Masters" Or Teachers In Some Instances Are Just As Confused And Delusional As Some Here.

These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

The Bullshit Is Part Of The Hindu Spiritual Tradition Of Neti Neti.

Not This Not This, When ONE Is Over The Bullshit One Has Reached A Greater Understanding Of The TRUTH.

If You Are Here To Impart Your Book Wisdom On The Ignorant Then Your Motives Are SUSPECT.

In My Humble Opinion.
ORDO AB CHAO
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In My Humble Opinion.
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Nevermind me, enjoy that Osho vid, he's entertaining, and a well known name, not some nobody on a forum like me. I'll find you one from one of the big names in Kundalini, shortly, to enjoy as well.

chuckle
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These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

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THIS

Spiritual teachers can become a block between you and source if you rely on their teachings instead of asking yourself. Source is the best teacher.
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I don't listen to people. I find more useful information walking down a set of railroad tracks.

Words only do harm. IMO
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The problem with the make-believe story is that it mostly ignores the actual real world practices, which people have accomplished and attained fulfillment from, for thousands upon thousands of years, through various traditions, and replaces it with.. well.. nonsense. New Agey stuff, most of which is nonsense or very entry level practices sold as "the secret!", written by folk making a quick buck off the popularity of that particular fad.
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You Are Just As Confused As Some Christian's.
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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1

Essentially, the whole anomabody phenomena is a crowd-sourced fictional story being written by every who participates, and is not in fact actual spiritual reality.

chuckle

Thus, some of us take the opportunity to input actual real world stuff into the nonsense, for those who are interested in dropping the play thing and moving on to the real stuff, based upon real world practices, following the teachings of real Teachers.

hf
 Quoting: *Random*


This Sounds Like Deception In My Opinion.

Your Real World Stuff Is The Same As What Is Happening In These Threads.

These Threads Are An Evolving Understanding Of Who We Really Are And The True Nature Of Reality.

Your Spiritual "Masters" Or Teachers In Some Instances Are Just As Confused And Delusional As Some Here.

These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

The Bullshit Is Part Of The Hindu Spiritual Tradition Of Neti Neti.

Not This Not This, When ONE Is Over The Bullshit One Has Reached A Greater Understanding Of The TRUTH.

If You Are Here To Impart Your Book Wisdom On The Ignorant Then Your Motives Are SUSPECT.

In My Humble Opinion.
 Quoting: Synchronous


My objective is to share Jesus with as many here as will listen.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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I don't listen to people. I find more useful information walking down a set of railroad tracks.

Words only do harm. IMO
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True Wisdom.

Thank You. You Just Covered Thousands Of Volumes Of Wordy Texts In Two Sentences.

Proving Why These Threads Exist And Are Required In This Time.

Last Edited by Synchronous on 02/04/2019 05:26 PM
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Sorry Seb but that is what these threads are really about. Now you know. Your input has and will continue to be added whether you want to be a part of it or not. All on this earth are inputting data. Don't worry the prison aspects won't be part of the next version of humans.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1

Essentially, the whole anomabody phenomena is a crowd-sourced fictional story being written by every who participates, and is not in fact actual spiritual reality.

chuckle

Thus, some of us take the opportunity to input actual real world stuff into the nonsense, for those who are interested in dropping the play thing and moving on to the real stuff, based upon real world practices, following the teachings of real Teachers.

hf
 Quoting: *Random*


This Sounds Like Deception In My Opinion.

Your Real World Stuff Is The Same As What Is Happening In These Threads.

These Threads Are An Evolving Understanding Of Who We Really Are And The True Nature Of Reality.

Your Spiritual "Masters" Or Teachers In Some Instances Are Just As Confused And Delusional As Some Here.

These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

The Bullshit Is Part Of The Hindu Spiritual Tradition Of Neti Neti.

Not This Not This, When ONE Is Over The Bullshit One Has Reached A Greater Understanding Of The TRUTH.

If You Are Here To Impart Your Book Wisdom On The Ignorant Then Your Motives Are SUSPECT.

In My Humble Opinion.
 Quoting: Synchronous


My objective is to share Jesus with as many here as will listen.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~

You Are A TRUE Christian And Beautiful Persson.

You Have Imparted Much Truth.

An Honour To Interact With Someone Of Your Calibre.

TRUTH Is NEVER Rejected By Those Seeking IT.
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"Lift the stone and there you will find me. Split the wood and I am there." Gospel of Thomas

YES the best teachings come can from walking. My form of meditation has always been one in movement out in the real world whether a city street or a snowy wood. Interacting with everything you see and don't see.

Don't worry Newton, Christ will be in the mix no doubt. He knows what he really said and what was said he said but didn't say.
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These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

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THIS

Spiritual teachers can become a block between you and source if you rely on their teachings instead of asking yourself. Source is the best teacher.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Correct As Always.
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I would say to him

In which he would reply

Then we would

Totally

Not that I wouldn't say

Its like there is only

He thinks he isn't

I just really wish

What I meant to say is

Your not listening

My point is

They are like

And you know what happens when

What a curse of a

To be so

One day we will

But until then

But until then just

What a set up

I bet your are

Nah nah nah dont worry

Dont worry about

Idk if it comes down to it I will eat oranges

Have a drink on me

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I heard the news today oh boy

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These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

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THIS

Spiritual teachers can become a block between you and source if you rely on their teachings instead of asking yourself. Source is the best teacher.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Authentic teachers, not so much, but yes, there are very many not-so-authentic teachers out there, who are like us here, thinking we attained some little taste and then going on exclaiming "i know the way, I am the one!". These are also the types who write new age books.

There is no "new paradigm", as there is only one Ultimate Reality, one Source. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of years of folk attaining to this all do so through the same methods, colored by the cultural language of whatever society is applying it, and often hidden underneath a pile of "lowest-common denominator people"'s simple instructions on how to live a peaceful life in society, the bottom layer of religions, the stuff for the common folk. Good stuff, but not the end game, you know?

The trouble is that most of the time, we create a conceptual ideal of what "Source" is, what "Ultimate Reality" is, and then we "worship" this conceptual idea, not realizing that it's something in our own intellect, our own fabrication, and not Ultimate Reality. Source is not something one "connects" to, one is always with it. One is always.. it. So to speak. One must not commit idolatry with a conceptual ideal. Thus, the Christian Cloud of Unknowning, and various other teachings about "emptiness", that teach us to stop doing this thing that we do unconsciously, unaware of what we are doing.
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What's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?!
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Actually I Don't Care.
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Heh that's what you feel these threads are about, but I've been with these threads for long enough to know that every single person has come to them with their own narrative, and idea of what they are supposed to be about. There is no actual purpose or narrative, other than to gather in a certain kind of person, in a butterfly effect kind of way, an emergent behavior kind of way.

Your narrative is also just another narrative. There are hundreds of other threads about this subject that tell a different narrative.

1dunno1

Essentially, the whole anomabody phenomena is a crowd-sourced fictional story being written by every who participates, and is not in fact actual spiritual reality.

chuckle

Thus, some of us take the opportunity to input actual real world stuff into the nonsense, for those who are interested in dropping the play thing and moving on to the real stuff, based upon real world practices, following the teachings of real Teachers.

hf
 Quoting: *Random*


This Sounds Like Deception In My Opinion.

Your Real World Stuff Is The Same As What Is Happening In These Threads.

These Threads Are An Evolving Understanding Of Who We Really Are And The True Nature Of Reality.

Your Spiritual "Masters" Or Teachers In Some Instances Are Just As Confused And Delusional As Some Here.

These Threads Are About A New Developing Paradigm Of Spirituality.

The Bullshit Is Part Of The Hindu Spiritual Tradition Of Neti Neti.

Not This Not This, When ONE Is Over The Bullshit One Has Reached A Greater Understanding Of The TRUTH.

If You Are Here To Impart Your Book Wisdom On The Ignorant Then Your Motives Are SUSPECT.

In My Humble Opinion.
 Quoting: Synchronous


My objective is to share Jesus with as many here as will listen.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~

You Are A TRUE Christian And Beautiful Persson.

You Have Imparted Much Truth.

An Honour To Interact With Someone Of Your Calibre.

TRUTH Is NEVER Rejected By Those Seeking IT.
 Quoting: Synchronous


Thank you, my friend, but the honor is all mine.

I sense in you a wise soul.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.





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