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What would you say to him?

 
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The rational voice, talking about choices, wasn't your first gambit. Think about it. If there are no general and universal consequences to my behavior--for EVERYONE WHO DOES THEM--then they are being specifically tailored to me, and there is an external, human power that you are deliberately leaving out of your description. If what I do is important, then have someone who is also important, or who directly benefits from my behavior (not one who suffers from it, because those are weak and therefore unimportant people in your scheme) tell me why in clear, concrete and complete explanations without being condescending or threatening, and preferably in person. Otherwise, I don't give a shit, and this suffering isn't elective but to prove loyalty to a group that up until now hasn't shown itself worthy of trust or loyalty. Thanks.
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No offense man, but you sound suspiciously similar to a bot.

If you’re not, then your tone is too negative for me to carry on with you.

Actually, even if you are I’d rather not engage further.

Good luck yo. Or beep boop beep beep boop.
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The feeling is mutual, asshole. Everyone I speak to on here has the same goal, so conversations typically end when they say that my complaints about that goal are 'too negative.' Not really important to me.
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Huh.. so everyone else is wrong?

The only person you’ll ever change is yourself.
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That's hilarious. I can go to my local house of worship and see an entire shelf of books with paratexts to the sacred word with the sole object of explaining why nothing about a culture that only benefits a few wealthy slavers can ever change, nor can its teachers ever be questioned, and instructing believers how to lie to, injure, and wear out unbelievers. If others don't have to change and get off scot-free, then neither do I.

And no, everyone is not wrong but me. But when I'm forced to solely associate with a group of people who are all reading from the same playbook, then fatalism and obstinance are the only suitable reaction. You nullify personal conscience in an attempt to achieve your goal, do horrible things as a result, and never allow yourself to admit that this is why you failed to convince the person you did them to that you really and truly are good people.

I know you're not going to respond to this honestly, if you even respond, but every single noble goal or attribute you want me to have is calculated toward further those same interests. A poor person becoming poorer is change, I guess. As is a sick person becoming miserable. And sure, I can lower or eliminate my expectations, but why don't you do the same? Because this is about coercing people to do what you and yours want. And that is all you'll ever be to me, because that is my experience with you. Not worth helping, not worth saving. The only times I have been remotely happy have been when I have gotten away from you and your deranged attitudes for even a little while. Thanks for nothing.
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Too long, didn’t read.

You remind me of surethingbuddy.

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Have a good night bot/dude
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Too long, didn’t read.

You remind me of surethingbuddy.

chuckle

Have a good night bot/dude
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As I expected. No skin off my nose.
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Last word.

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Last word.

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It isn't the argument that is satisfying. It's the non-compliance, together with having some idea of what that means for the people willing to harm me.
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Last word.
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Last word.
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Now you sound like the bot.
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Last word.
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Last word.
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No, the last word is when I get high and make more definite moves toward quitting. You are trying to typify my response to an argument that you need to perpetuate to keep me engaged. That's why YOU won't let it end.
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Nope, I’ve just got your number dialed.

Don’t worry, I’m getting bored.
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Don't tell me how difficult the Way.
The bird's path, winding far,
Is right before you.
Water of the Dokei Gorge,
You return to the ocean,
I to the mountain.


- Hofuku Seikatsu (10th c)
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Don't tell me how difficult the Way.
The bird's path, winding far,
Is right before you.
Water of the Dokei Gorge,
You return to the ocean,
I to the mountain.


- Hofuku Seikatsu (10th c)
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If Asia and its wisdom had any value, then they would have had important advancements based on their philosophy. All that comes from Europe. You want people living under all-wise Mandarins from scholar-poet families, grateful for simply existing, then nuke the world until it agrees with you. I know you have it in you.
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Sorry to hear you guys fighting :(

I hope you both feel better :/
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This was a good one!

Peace guys :)

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Thread: How To Get Into REAL Heaven VS. Yahweh's Deception Heaven
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Don't tell me how difficult the Way.
The bird's path, winding far,
Is right before you.
Water of the Dokei Gorge,
You return to the ocean,
I to the mountain.


- Hofuku Seikatsu (10th c)
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If Asia and its wisdom had any value, then they would have had important advancements based on their philosophy. All that comes from Europe. You want people living under all-wise Mandarins from scholar-poet families, grateful for simply existing, then nuke the world until it agrees with you. I know you have it in you.
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Do not stop your potential and linger in thought over these lines using your conceptual mind and inbred biases. If you do, the more you explain, the farther away you get. Thus it is better to study the living phrase.

— T’aego
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Don't tell me how difficult the Way.
The bird's path, winding far,
Is right before you.
Water of the Dokei Gorge,
You return to the ocean,
I to the mountain.


- Hofuku Seikatsu (10th c)
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If Asia and its wisdom had any value, then they would have had important advancements based on their philosophy. All that comes from Europe. You want people living under all-wise Mandarins from scholar-poet families, grateful for simply existing, then nuke the world until it agrees with you. I know you have it in you.
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Do not stop your potential and linger in thought over these lines using your conceptual mind and inbred biases. If you do, the more you explain, the farther away you get. Thus it is better to study the living phrase.

— T’aego
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Your advice isn't worth following on the basis of your character, and on what you desire its results to be for me. Better horrific tragedy than to have your free will tampered with by stealth.
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Don't tell me how difficult the Way.
The bird's path, winding far,
Is right before you.
Water of the Dokei Gorge,
You return to the ocean,
I to the mountain.


- Hofuku Seikatsu (10th c)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78153486


If Asia and its wisdom had any value, then they would have had important advancements based on their philosophy. All that comes from Europe. You want people living under all-wise Mandarins from scholar-poet families, grateful for simply existing, then nuke the world until it agrees with you. I know you have it in you.
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Do not stop your potential and linger in thought over these lines using your conceptual mind and inbred biases. If you do, the more you explain, the farther away you get. Thus it is better to study the living phrase.

— T’aego
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Your advice isn't worth following on the basis of your character, and on what you desire its results to be for me. Better horrific tragedy than to have your free will tampered with by stealth.
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A thousand words,
Ten thousand explanations;
I just want to tell you not to be ignorant.
If you wish to meet the deathless one
Within the hut,
He’s no different from this skin bag here and now.

— Shitou Xiqian (700-790)
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If Asia and its wisdom had any value, then they would have had important advancements based on their philosophy. All that comes from Europe. You want people living under all-wise Mandarins from scholar-poet families, grateful for simply existing, then nuke the world until it agrees with you. I know you have it in you.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot




Do not stop your potential and linger in thought over these lines using your conceptual mind and inbred biases. If you do, the more you explain, the farther away you get. Thus it is better to study the living phrase.

— T’aego
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Your advice isn't worth following on the basis of your character, and on what you desire its results to be for me. Better horrific tragedy than to have your free will tampered with by stealth.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot




A thousand words,
Ten thousand explanations;
I just want to tell you not to be ignorant.
If you wish to meet the deathless one
Within the hut,
He’s no different from this skin bag here and now.

— Shitou Xiqian (700-790)
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You've offered more words, and less explanations. I don't care what happens to you because you did not care what happened to me. Simple as that. If you want to convince me of an important truth, then have someone who is actually important tell me to my face. Not some dead Chinese being quoted by a low-level shill.
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You've offered more words, and less explanations. I don't care what happens to you because you did not care what happened to me. Simple as that. If you want to convince me of an important truth, then have someone who is actually important tell me to my face. Not some dead Chinese being quoted by a low-level shill.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot



All things are free-flowing, untrammeled.
What bondage is there, what entanglement?
You create your own difficulty and ease therein.
The mind source pervades the ten directions with
one continuity.

— Tzu-hu (800-880)
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The trap is set. Oh wizards of old your time has finally come. Couple of mistakes you made. Your power made you weak and feeble. Your arrogance made you delusional. And lastly.....Don't send a rabbit to kill a fox...
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You've offered more words, and less explanations. I don't care what happens to you because you did not care what happened to me. Simple as that. If you want to convince me of an important truth, then have someone who is actually important tell me to my face. Not some dead Chinese being quoted by a low-level shill.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot



All things are free-flowing, untrammeled.
What bondage is there, what entanglement?
You create your own difficulty and ease therein.
The mind source pervades the ten directions with
one continuity.

— Tzu-hu (800-880)
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No, I'm not going to live a life of deprivation and peasant awe so wealthy monsters, and prep-school thugs don't have to face any consequences to their actions. Personal enlightenment is BS, and a cover for what you are actually going to do. Nukes refute the Buddhists, just like at Hiroshima. Stop trying to make your goals my problems.
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You've offered more words, and less explanations. I don't care what happens to you because you did not care what happened to me. Simple as that. If you want to convince me of an important truth, then have someone who is actually important tell me to my face. Not some dead Chinese being quoted by a low-level shill.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot



All things are free-flowing, untrammeled.
What bondage is there, what entanglement?
You create your own difficulty and ease therein.
The mind source pervades the ten directions with
one continuity.

— Tzu-hu (800-880)
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No, I'm not going to live a life of deprivation and peasant awe so wealthy monsters, and prep-school thugs don't have to face any consequences to their actions. Personal enlightenment is BS, and a cover for what you are actually going to do. Nukes refute the Buddhists, just like at Hiroshima. Stop trying to make your goals my problems.
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All things are illusory; when you create, it is an illusion, and when you receive, it is an illusion. When you are conscious, it is an illusion, and when you are confused, it is an illusion. Past, present, and future are all illusions. If today you discover your faults, use the illusory medicine to cure the illusory sickness. When the sickness is gone and you no longer need the medicine, you will still be the same person. Think deeply about this.


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You've offered more words, and less explanations. I don't care what happens to you because you did not care what happened to me. Simple as that. If you want to convince me of an important truth, then have someone who is actually important tell me to my face. Not some dead Chinese being quoted by a low-level shill.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot



All things are free-flowing, untrammeled.
What bondage is there, what entanglement?
You create your own difficulty and ease therein.
The mind source pervades the ten directions with
one continuity.

— Tzu-hu (800-880)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78153486


No, I'm not going to live a life of deprivation and peasant awe so wealthy monsters, and prep-school thugs don't have to face any consequences to their actions. Personal enlightenment is BS, and a cover for what you are actually going to do. Nukes refute the Buddhists, just like at Hiroshima. Stop trying to make your goals my problems.
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All things are illusory; when you create, it is an illusion, and when you receive, it is an illusion. When you are conscious, it is an illusion, and when you are confused, it is an illusion. Past, present, and future are all illusions. If today you discover your faults, use the illusory medicine to cure the illusory sickness. When the sickness is gone and you no longer need the medicine, you will still be the same person. Think deeply about this.


- Ta-hui (1089-1163)
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The person I am today is the same person you did what you did to. Why forget a trespass to accommodate your lack of guilt when by inaction I can pay you back with interest?
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All things are free-flowing, untrammeled.
What bondage is there, what entanglement?
You create your own difficulty and ease therein.
The mind source pervades the ten directions with
one continuity.

— Tzu-hu (800-880)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78153486


No, I'm not going to live a life of deprivation and peasant awe so wealthy monsters, and prep-school thugs don't have to face any consequences to their actions. Personal enlightenment is BS, and a cover for what you are actually going to do. Nukes refute the Buddhists, just like at Hiroshima. Stop trying to make your goals my problems.
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All things are illusory; when you create, it is an illusion, and when you receive, it is an illusion. When you are conscious, it is an illusion, and when you are confused, it is an illusion. Past, present, and future are all illusions. If today you discover your faults, use the illusory medicine to cure the illusory sickness. When the sickness is gone and you no longer need the medicine, you will still be the same person. Think deeply about this.


- Ta-hui (1089-1163)
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The person I am today is the same person you did what you did to. Why forget a trespass to accommodate your lack of guilt when by inaction I can pay you back with interest?
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When there are clouds and fog everywhere, the world is dark, but that does not mean the sun has decomposed. Why is there no light? The light is never destroyed; it is just enshrouded by clouds and fog.

The pure mind of all living beings is like this, merely covered up by the dark clouds of obsession with objects, arbitrary thoughts, psychological afflictions, and view and opinions.


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No, I'm not going to live a life of deprivation and peasant awe so wealthy monsters, and prep-school thugs don't have to face any consequences to their actions. Personal enlightenment is BS, and a cover for what you are actually going to do. Nukes refute the Buddhists, just like at Hiroshima. Stop trying to make your goals my problems.
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All things are illusory; when you create, it is an illusion, and when you receive, it is an illusion. When you are conscious, it is an illusion, and when you are confused, it is an illusion. Past, present, and future are all illusions. If today you discover your faults, use the illusory medicine to cure the illusory sickness. When the sickness is gone and you no longer need the medicine, you will still be the same person. Think deeply about this.


- Ta-hui (1089-1163)
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The person I am today is the same person you did what you did to. Why forget a trespass to accommodate your lack of guilt when by inaction I can pay you back with interest?
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When there are clouds and fog everywhere, the world is dark, but that does not mean the sun has decomposed. Why is there no light? The light is never destroyed; it is just enshrouded by clouds and fog.

The pure mind of all living beings is like this, merely covered up by the dark clouds of obsession with objects, arbitrary thoughts, psychological afflictions, and view and opinions.


- Hongren (602-675)
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The answer is no. And I will say it no matter how many quotes you pull up praising meekness in order to shield the strong. Your morality doesn't apply to everyone, and yet you claim all are one. It's bullshit.
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The answer is no. And I will say it no matter how many quotes you pull up praising meekness in order to shield the strong. Your morality doesn't apply to everyone, and yet you claim all are one. It's bullshit.
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You’ve moved to a house
Backing the outer wall;
I reach it by wild paths
Through mulberry and hemp.
Along the fence
Chrysanthemums newly set out
Have yet to bloom,
Though autumn’s here.
I pound the gate but no dog barks.
About to go,
I ask at the house next door;
They tell me you’re up in the hills,
Never come home till the sun is low.


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The answer is no. And I will say it no matter how many quotes you pull up praising meekness in order to shield the strong. Your morality doesn't apply to everyone, and yet you claim all are one. It's bullshit.
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You’ve moved to a house
Backing the outer wall;
I reach it by wild paths
Through mulberry and hemp.
Along the fence
Chrysanthemums newly set out
Have yet to bloom,
Though autumn’s here.
I pound the gate but no dog barks.
About to go,
I ask at the house next door;
They tell me you’re up in the hills,
Never come home till the sun is low.


— Jiaoran (730-799)
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I beg differ. The situation is different: YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE.
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