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What would you say to him?

 
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It's A VIRTUAL CULT AnyWay.

DIGITAL.

No REAL Human's Get Hurt.
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Cults are never good, they put further distance between one and the Light of the Divine, so to speak. Like stuffing one's head in a snowbank, unable to see the snowplow heading your way!

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ALL MODERN FAITH SYSTEMS STARTED AS CULTS.

Silly Monkey.

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I'd tell him to kiss my asshf
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WORDS OF JESUS

John 1:51 New Living Translation (NLT)

51 Then he said, “I tell you the truth, you will all see heaven open and the angels of God going up and down on the Son of Man, the one who is the stairway between heaven and earth


Jacobs Ladder
Stairway to Heaven
Axis Mundi


All the same thing
 Quoting: Mi-sha


John 1:51's more legit version says:
And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.


I don't see what you are getting at, what three different concepts barely related to each other have to do with anything.

"Heaven" is not something one reaches via a ladder or stairway, or something connected via an Axis at the center of Earth (which is a ball of molten metal, mind you)
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According to the teachings of Jesus, the Kingdom of Heaven is right before your eyes, so to speak.

IT's not a place, distinct from this place. It's... a kind of state of being, akin to the concept of Nirvana.
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The only reason this person even gets a response is because I don’t want people confused

So here goes

Jacob's Ladder (Hebrew: סולם יעקב‬ Sulam Yaakov) is a ladder leading to heaven that was featured in a dream the biblical Patriarch Jacob had during his flight from his brother Esau in the Book of Genesis.

The significance of the dream has been debated, but most interpretations agree that it identified Jacob with the obligations and inheritance of the people chosen by God, as understood in
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ALL MODERN FAITH SYSTEMS STARTED AS CULTS.

Silly Monkey.

1doh1
 Quoting: Synchronous


They started because a teacher taught students, and invariably later students didn't "get it", and started making up all sorts of things to glorify the teacher, until the teacher became an object of worship, and then you end up with idolatry, a religion.

That is not the same as someone saying "I am the special one, worship me and you will be taken up with me unto the great spaceship of otherworldly new planetary existence, thus, drink this koolaid!"

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WORDS OF JESUS

John 1:51 New Living Translation (NLT)

51 Then he said, “I tell you the truth, you will all see heaven open and the angels of God going up and down on the Son of Man, the one who is the stairway between heaven and earth


Jacobs Ladder
Stairway to Heaven
Axis Mundi


All the same thing
 Quoting: Mi-sha


John 1:51's more legit version says:
And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.


I don't see what you are getting at, what three different concepts barely related to each other have to do with anything.

"Heaven" is not something one reaches via a ladder or stairway, or something connected via an Axis at the center of Earth (which is a ball of molten metal, mind you)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


It's SYMBOLIC.

What GAMES You Play.

You SERIOUSLY Can't Be This STUPID.
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The significance of the dream has been debated, but most interpretations agree that it identified Jacob with the obligations and inheritance of the people chosen by God, as understood in
 Quoting: Mi-sha


Certainly, google tells you this. What is your point? You are making vague connections between barely connected things and expecting me to behold some great mysterious truth. Explain.
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I don't see what you are getting at, what three different concepts barely related to each other have to do with anything.

 Quoting: Synchronous


It's SYMBOLIC.

What GAMES You Play.

You SERIOUSLY Can't Be This STUPID.


I'm trying to get to the bottom of why he feels that these things somehow make him Jesus's ressurection

chuckle
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According to the teachings of Jesus, the Kingdom of Heaven is right before your eyes, so to speak.

IT's not a place, distinct from this place. It's... a kind of state of being, akin to the concept of Nirvana.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


What do you think JESUS did? Without the sacrifice they have no way back

Connected them
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According to the teachings of Jesus, the Kingdom of Heaven is right before your eyes, so to speak.

IT's not a place, distinct from this place. It's... a kind of state of being, akin to the concept of Nirvana.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


What do you think JESUS did? Without the sacrifice they have no way back

Connected them
 Quoting: Mi-sha


Jesus did no such thing, they have always been connected, they are not actually separate. It is only a great delusion that sets a firmament between the waters and the waters: The apple of knowledge, the great WORD, that sets up an artificial discrimination upon the Waters of your Being.
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According to the teachings of Jesus, the Kingdom of Heaven is right before your eyes, so to speak.

IT's not a place, distinct from this place. It's... a kind of state of being, akin to the concept of Nirvana.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


What do you think JESUS did? Without the sacrifice they have no way back

Connected them
 Quoting: Mi-sha


Jesus did no such thing, they have always been connected, they are not actually separate. It is only a great delusion that sets a firmament between the waters and the waters: The apple of knowledge, the great WORD, that sets up an artificial discrimination upon the Waters of your Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


Why do you think you pray in the name of the Son?
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ALL MODERN FAITH SYSTEMS STARTED AS CULTS.

Silly Monkey.

1doh1
 Quoting: Synchronous


They started because a teacher taught students, and invariably later students didn't "get it", and started making up all sorts of things to glorify the teacher, until the teacher became an object of worship, and then you end up with idolatry, a religion.

That is not the same as someone saying "I am the special one, worship me and you will be taken up with me unto the great spaceship of otherworldly new planetary existence, thus, drink this koolaid!"

righton5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


We Have TECHNOLOGY Now, No NEED For TEACHERS, MASTER'S OR Even STUDENTS.

It's A SINGULARITY.

They NEVER Really UNDERSTOOD AnyWay.


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Re: What would you say to him?
Every major religion has an Axis Mundi

It is the highest point

GODs is Zion

MT ZION
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“I didn't say I was coming back, I said “THE CHRIST” was...That's the energy of the soul fully connecting to the divine through the human heart. You all have to bring that back through your own lives.” (Meme from the web)
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Why do you think you pray in the name of the Son?
 Quoting: Mi-sha


Prayer is a form of Mantra practice, a tantric meditation technique, adapted to that particular faith. There are many reasons to do Mantra practice, but ultimately it comes down to clearing away all of your obstructions of selfhood, so as to dismantle the seven seals of the Ego, reversing the process all the way down to the WORD, a single pointed focus, upon which there is only abiding. And then one drops abiding, and then there is no self at all, only the pure Light that reaches everywhere.

1dunno1

Withdraw now from
the invisible pounding and weaving
of your ingrained ideas.
If you want to be rid of this
invisible turmoil, you must just sit
through it and let go of everything.
Attain fulfillment and illuminate thoroughly.
Light and shadow altogether forgotten.
Drop off your own skin,
and the sense-dusts will be fully purified.
The eye then readily discerns the brightness.

- Hongzhi Zhengjue (1091–1157)

Or, in Christian-speak, the Cloud of Unknowing.
(The underlying message of this work suggests that the way to know God is to abandon consideration of God's particular activities and attributes, and be courageous enough to surrender one's mind and ego to the realm of "unknowing", at which point one may begin to glimpse the nature of God.)

I have a copy of this text on my shelf, it's not a big text, it's a fine read for any serious Christian.
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Re: What would you say to him?
It is how you they (ISRAEL) and those with them return

Behold, I send My messenger,
And he will prepare the way before Me.
And the Lord, whom you seek,
Will suddenly come to His temple,
Even the Messenger of the covenant,
In whom you delight.
Behold, He is coming,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
2 “But who can endure the day of His coming?
And who can stand when He appears?
For He is like a refiner’s fire
And like launderers’ soap.
3 He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver;
He will purify the sons of Levi,
And [a]purge them as gold and silver,
That they may offer to the Lord
An offering in righteousness.
4 “Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem
Will be pleasant to the Lord,
As in the days of old,
As in former years.
5 And I will come near you for judgment;
I will be a swift witness
Against sorcerers,
Against adulterers,
Against perjurers,
Against those who exploit wage earners and widows and orphans,
And against those who turn away an alien—
Because they do not fear Me,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
6 “For I am the Lord, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
7 Yet from the days of your fathers
You have gone away from My ordinances
And have not kept them.
Return to Me, and I will return to you,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
“But you said,
‘In what way shall we return?’
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(INSERT MUSIC VIDEO HERE)

Edited Because I CAN.

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I STAND CORRECTED.

IT'S A GLITCH.

GLITCH BITCH.
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And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.



Nice to meet you
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TILT.
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And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.



Nice to meet you
 Quoting: Mi-sha


So if you’re going to pretend to be me. Pretend well enough that it doesn’t upset me.

Then move of out my way
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It is how you they (ISRAEL) and those with them return

Behold, I send My messenger,
...
etc
 Quoting: Mi-sha


This text refers to Judiasm in the 5th century before Christ.. I dont see the connection to this conversation
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And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.



Nice to meet you
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So if you’re going to pretend to be me. Pretend well enough that it doesn’t upset me.

Then move of out my way
 Quoting: Mi-sha


TRUTH.
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It is how you they (ISRAEL) and those with them return

Behold, I send My messenger,
...
etc
 Quoting: Mi-sha


This text refers to Judiasm in the 5th century before Christ.. I dont see the connection to this conversation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77274911


For those watching let’s examine the text to see if she is correct
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And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.



Nice to meet you
 Quoting: Mi-sha


So if you’re going to pretend to be me. Pretend well enough that it doesn’t upset me.

Then move of out my way
 Quoting: Mi-sha


You are making connections between yourself and texts referring to the Jewish faith and local population, from 500 years before Jesus? How.. quaint.

hf

You are the only one in your own way.
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Re: What would you say to him?
The messenger who prepares the way refers to John the Baptist.
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For those watching let’s examine the text to see if she is correct
 Quoting: Mi-sha


[link to www.britannica.com (secure)]

The book belongs to the first half of the 5th century bc
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The messenger who prepares the way refers to John the Baptist.
 Quoting: Willow Wood


Possibly, and also perhaps is predicting the coming of Jesus.

Very specifically it's about a population in the early part of the 5th century, and not about today's world and a resurrection of Jesus.
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Re: What would you say to him?
Sigh. There are multiple prophecy in the OT pointing to JB & JC. The messenger who prepared the way and the one the way was prepared for BOTH already came.





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