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Message Subject What would you say to him?
Poster Handle Mr. Robot
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And every one of them had a different idea of what waking up entailed. This site focuses more on Plato than Epicurus for example. I think we all know why. Noble lies.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot

There is no "idea" of what it is to "wake up", as as soon as you formulate the idea, you've just thrown a new matrix right over your perceptions, and are once against lost in the rapids of the river of experience, so to speak.

Thus, you won't find any cognizant description of what it is to "wake up", you will only find all manner of approximations in an attempt at getting the general idea across, without generating an idea. Which is why it's not so easy, and why it's almost impossible for you to grok.

Ohh now you've done it, ol' RandomS is gonna pull out some zen quotes!

Shining of the sun and moon,
As profound as the constant flow
Of the rivers and streams.
If it is somehow blocked or obstructed,
Clear away the blockages and break
Through the obstructions and you will
Again see the basic essence.
The reason why the ancients
Gave this such urgency and
Such emphasis is precisely that
They wanted us to make whole
This ever-shining, ever-bright essence.

— Zou Shouyi (1491-1562)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78153486

I am a Westerner. All these philosophies and theologies are collectivist. Joseph Campbell already peppered his remarks on Eastern/Primitive (his words) religions with enough libertarian asides to show where he stood. If you believe in caste, then fight for it like caste does. Hypnotizing people is for fakirs, and people are perfectly willing to die in a nuclear conflagration rather than have their privacy and other liberties reduced to that of the Third World, outside of a select and very wealthy few. Trying to find a Middle Way just shows you are a coward in addition to your malicious view of your fellow humans.
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