Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force | |
Eggcellently Deplorable Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States 11/21/2018 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force from within article: Quoting: exlibris Defense officials said the language in the directive was carefully crafted to avoid running up against the bedrock legal limitations set in Posse Comitatus. The law was originally intended to protect the states from being controlled by federal troops. It has evolved into a singly defining, almost church versus state-type wall forbidding active-duty forces under the control of the president from conducting any types of crowd control or law enforcement domestically, essentially ensuring that the U.S. military is not used to control or defeat American citizens on U.S. soil. We shouldn't have to worry about that in this situation since they are an invading FOREIGN force, right? Thank you President Trump. This is really the ONLY way to ensure that the Border is protected at this point. If the Dems had OK'd the Wall, this wouldn't have been necessary. Keep that in mind the next time you hear some Dem bellyaching about the Border situation. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Hadarian User ID: 77139999 Mexico 11/21/2018 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force White House Authorizes Lethal Force At The Border Quoting: exlibris President Trump's chief of staff John Kelly signed a memo late Tuesday allowing troops stationed at the border to act in a law enforcement capacity and use lethal force, if necessary, according to Tara Copp of Military Times. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] [link to www.militarytimes.com (secure)] all the migrants are shaking in fear...HAHAHA... |
Eggcellently Deplorable Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States 11/21/2018 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force This sounds like it is simply expanding upon common standing orders that soldiers are given. Quoting: BrokenTech Which are: * Do not fire unless fired upon. * Free to respond in kind to defend themselves. Well, except that I have read that Obama took away the troops' ability to fire back unless they actually SAW a weapon; so the muzz would just hide a bunch of guns in every house and then they could go from house to house and our troops were helpless to fire on them even though they KNEW that they WERE the ones shooting at them. A lot of our troops got killed because of this cockamanie change in the Rules Of Engagement courtesy of the Dems' Black Jesus. So it's good that our President said this just so that it was made crystal clear that our people CAN defend themselves and not have to just stand there and get slaughtered the way Obama ordered it to happen. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
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MissCleo User ID: 76541118 United States 11/21/2018 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force This sounds like it is simply expanding upon common standing orders that soldiers are given. Quoting: BrokenTech Which are: * Do not fire unless fired upon. * Free to respond in kind to defend themselves. * Consider a thrown rock as a fired gun (my fave) Gaza. then they light up moltav balloons and fly them over the border. crude weapons, but none the less, not a sign of peace. |
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Hadriana User ID: 74461487 United States 11/21/2018 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force Posse Commitatus surely was never meant to deny the US self defense against foreign invading hordes. Yet I see Twitter liberals telling troops to resist or be war criminals. :( Last Edited by Hadriana on 11/21/2018 05:29 PM |
Deplorable Busterhymen User ID: 77025419 United States 11/21/2018 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force This sounds like it is simply expanding upon common standing orders that soldiers are given. Quoting: BrokenTech Which are: * Do not fire unless fired upon. * Free to respond in kind to defend themselves. There has been much discussion about deploying active duty federal troops on US soil - all to do with different interpretations of Posse Comitatus... The fake news and lib NGOs have been making it their mission to neuter our troops at the border Mattis had to tap dance that topic too...saying multiple times that troops were only there to support BP. And that the troops could only use force if fired upon. It sounds to me they're playing this smarter now. Because as soon as one immigrant fires a projectile at them....any military man who protects themselves would be in the brig regardless of evidence. This situation has a possibility to turn ugly fast if the so called "migrants" engage our troops in any way... You can be sure that Soros has issued orders for the caravan participants to be as violent as possible. Expect rioting and mayhem. Soros needs dead bodies to get his agenda advanced. FCK the WEF! Keep your hands off my country! |
benbigger User ID: 77023154 United States 11/21/2018 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force White House Authorizes Lethal Force At The Border Quoting: exlibris President Trump's chief of staff John Kelly signed a memo late Tuesday allowing troops stationed at the border to act in a law enforcement capacity and use lethal force, if necessary, according to Tara Copp of Military Times. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] [link to www.militarytimes.com (secure)] Sounds like fake news. Not aware the White House Chief of Staff is in actual legal military chain of command which would begin with Trump as Commander in Chief thru Mattis as Secretary of Defense down, down, down. Kelly certainly has great influence but don't see how he is in formal legal chain of command that could authorize use of deadly force. benbigger |
jiffy76 User ID: 23780738 United States 11/21/2018 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force it's nice of CNN to broadcast that the troops at the Border are only there as a scare tactic. That the troops can't arrest, shoot or act as law enforcement. That they can't act unless ordered by the president fucking stupid ass media |
benbigger User ID: 77023154 United States 11/21/2018 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force get on periscope and watch these libtard "reporters" down there with the caravan spewing their bullshit about how great they all are and how america needs to accept them all. it's unbelievable. i'm assuming those people doing that are taking in at least a couple of the invaders in to their homes and financing their lives with their earnings, since they are so charitable and good. what they did is opened up their prisons and sent their murderers and rapists to America same thing Cuba did Correct. If you are criminal in Mexico or Central America and the police are coming for you do you surrender and go to a Mexican prison or simply cross the border into the USA? The answer is obvious. A big problem is Trump should have DHS, FBI, DOJ leaders at the White house podium every day telling the American people how many robberies, rapes, murders, DUI, etc are being committed by illegals, how much it costs for their "free" education, health care etc etc. Have never understood why Trump and company are not at a White House press brief telling this sad story over and over so the American people know the truth? benbigger |
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Starbrite User ID: 76870345 United States 11/21/2018 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force Yes, they should read this and be aware, this ain't no taco stand at the border caravanors. Rise from the ashes;Liting a flame which shall smoulder until it reaches the intensity of an inferno leaving a path of scorched earth in its wake, henceforth, in a new season a garden of flowers shall bloom. (Starbrite) Life is a process;Enjoy the drive as much as the destination. (Starbrite) We have actually made contact;The secret is embedded as deep as the alchemy spells from the Dark Ages, and as spiritually enligthening as the dawn of the Renaissance. (Starbrite) LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY, DO NOT HATE! (Starbrite) www.Starcopia.com www.footprintsintheshiftingsand.wordpress.com The Eclectic Muse |
Starbrite User ID: 76870345 United States 11/21/2018 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force Yes, they should read this and be aware, this ain't no taco stand at the border caravanors. Rise from the ashes;Liting a flame which shall smoulder until it reaches the intensity of an inferno leaving a path of scorched earth in its wake, henceforth, in a new season a garden of flowers shall bloom. (Starbrite) Life is a process;Enjoy the drive as much as the destination. (Starbrite) We have actually made contact;The secret is embedded as deep as the alchemy spells from the Dark Ages, and as spiritually enligthening as the dawn of the Renaissance. (Starbrite) LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY, DO NOT HATE! (Starbrite) www.Starcopia.com www.footprintsintheshiftingsand.wordpress.com The Eclectic Muse |
Nonfeminazi User ID: 77084178 United States 11/21/2018 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force It has cost $72 million so far to deploy active-duty troops to the border, Pentagon says Quoting: exlibris After weeks of questions about the cost of the U.S. deployment of forces to the border, the Pentagon revealed late Tuesday that the barbed wire, transportation and housing for about 5,900 active-duty troops to date has cost $72 million. [link to www.militarytimes.com (secure)] Still cheaper than the hundreds of billions spent every year on caring for and incarcerating illegals. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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the amazing bastard User ID: 17325476 United States 11/21/2018 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force It's on like donkey Kong. The border will be secured regardless of a judiciary in near open revolt. bas·tard ˈbastərd/Submit noun 1. archaicderogatory a person born of parents not married to each other. synonyms: illegitimate child, child born out of wedlock; More 2. informal an unpleasant or despicable person. "he lied to me, the bastard!" synonyms: scoundrel, villain, rogue, rascal, weasel, snake, snake in the grass, miscreant, good-for-nothing, reprobate; |
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Not in my mind User ID: 50874131 United States 11/21/2018 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force White House Authorizes Lethal Force At The Border Quoting: exlibris President Trump's chief of staff John Kelly signed a memo late Tuesday allowing troops stationed at the border to act in a law enforcement capacity and use lethal force, if necessary, according to Tara Copp of Military Times. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] [link to www.militarytimes.com (secure)] Will |
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Eggcellently Deplorable Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States 11/21/2018 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force This sounds like it is simply expanding upon common standing orders that soldiers are given. Quoting: BrokenTech Which are: * Do not fire unless fired upon. * Free to respond in kind to defend themselves. Interesting, there was that one video of the immigrants throwing rocks and bottles. How does the military get to respond? Well, President Trump said that a rock can be as lethal as a bullet. And in the right hands it can. He said to treat a rock just like a bullet fired from a gun, and to respond accordingly. God please Bless my President! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Eggcellently Deplorable Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States 11/21/2018 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force Wonder if they have these operational yet: Quoting: exlibris Army’s newest non-lethal weapon The Army recently contracted with PepperBall to purchase the VKS launcher. It is a non-lethal device that fires paintball-like projectiles filled with a hot pepper solution to irritate and deter would-be aggressors. [link to www.armytimes.com (secure)] What other non-lethal weaponry could they use? Isn't there a sound-type crowd control sort of weapon? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 30616576 Canada 11/21/2018 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force I can't post the link for some reason but if there are any sleuths on here...I'll just post the headline. Obama Executive Order 13528 Subverts Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
benbigger User ID: 77023154 United States 11/21/2018 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force Don't know about multiple times, but it worked out pretty well for 'ole Honest Abe. and don't forget the time that President Eisenhower sent the 82nd Airborne Division the Little Rock, Ark., to desegregate the High School. Yes, and recall the massive civil problems in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, people dying, police shooting people , bad times all around were not resolved until active military was sent in and yes they were armed and did use some deadly force, that was kind of hushed up but the military had to take control to restore peace and order. Eventually the mayor and some police went to jail. benbigger |
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Eggcellently Deplorable Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States 11/21/2018 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force I've been saying it for years now.. Why build a wall at great cost, rather than electrify the existing fence????????? Quoting: Agent Smith 2014 If they have authorized lethal force it means they can now make the fence electric, right? Some tree-hugger would find a convenient 9th-Circuit judge and convince him that a lizard might get fried if it came in contact with the fence...... "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
benbigger User ID: 77023154 United States 11/21/2018 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force ... Quoting: Colloidal Peanut Butter Posse Comitatus has been ignored lots of times, as the situation dictates. Don't know about multiple times, but it worked out pretty well for 'ole Honest Abe. and don't forget the time that President Eisenhower sent the 82nd Airborne Division the Little Rock, Ark., to desegregate the High School. You don't seem to have a full understanding of what occurred there. The Arkansas governor did nothing to stop riots that occurred. When nothing was being done about it, the mayor of Little Rock contacted Ike directly for assistance. Ike took control of the NG and ordered them to restore order. He also sent soldiers from the 101st to assist, not the 82nd. The NG had operational control. Thats a paraphrased version of the events. Ike federalized (activated) the National Guard which took them away from control of the governor put them under Presidential control. Many ways for Trump to legally employ active military at the border. Ultimately the purpose of 1 million active military with a 700 BILLION budget is the secure the safety, peace and prosperity of United States citizens. Recall how Trump lobbed 150 cruise missles into Syria, killed people, and Syria was zero direct threat to the USA. Anyone who says Trump can do that and not take action against a country Mexico that is literally using a civilian force plus criminals and terrorists to invade the USA is freaking crazy. The only question is which side Trump is really on. Globalists want open borders, mass immigration. Will Trump find excuses to allow an invasion or will Trump grow some balls and side with the American people? benbigger |
Eggcellently Deplorable Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States 11/21/2018 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Update: Trump Signs Order To Close The Entire Mexico Border / White House Authorizes Lethal Force "The Bonus Army were the 43,000 marchers—17,000 U.S. World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups—who gathered in Washington, D.C. in the summer of 1932 to demand cash-payment redemption of their service certificates. Quoting: Colloidal Peanut Butter Date‎: ‎July 28, 1932 Location‎: ‎Washington D.C., United States" " President Herbert Hoover then ordered the Army to clear the marchers' campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded the infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned." (and, yes, there was shooting) [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] And they were firing upon AMERICAN citizens, not a bunch of foreign invasive cockroaches. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |