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Prove That Sunday Is The Christian Sabbath

 
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Friday sunset to Saturday sunset is the Jewish sabbath.

The first Christians observed the Jewish sabbath with rest and prayer and met on Sunday, beginning with His resurrection on the first day.
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Sunday is one day or 2-3 days or evenings where Church services are held and some 2 times in one day and that would be Sunday.
These are recognized as Church Service days not the Sabbath.

We do not worship or glorify the laws of the Old Testament we are under the New Testament, to go back under the practice of Old Testament laws upon people even in our Church would be fallen backwards and going into bondage, by placing our selves where we have no authority to be, stand or carry out on others.
Paul rebuked Peter over that and it is a well known no no.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


The New Testament commands the keeping of the Sabbath.

Hebrews 4:4  For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Hebrews 4:9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

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Sabbatismos

A keeping Sabbath.

Used once in the entire New Tesament.
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Friday sunset to Saturday sunset is the Jewish sabbath.

The first Christians observed the Jewish sabbath with rest and prayer and met on Sunday, beginning with His resurrection on the first day.
 Quoting: shoeshy


Sunday is one day or 2-3 days or evenings where Church services are held and some 2 times in one day and that would be Sunday.
These are recognized as Church Service days not the Sabbath.

We do not worship or glorify the laws of the Old Testament we are under the New Testament, to go back under the practice of Old Testament laws upon people even in our Church would be fallen backwards and going into bondage, by placing our selves where we have no authority to be, stand or carry out on others.
Paul rebuked Peter over that and it is a well known no no.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


Verses to the 4 points addressed in this video, please?

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What days do you think God disapproves honoring Him and fellowshipping with other believers?
 Quoting: shoeshy


How is this applicable to the conversation?
 Quoting: janedoenut


OP is attempting to deride Christians gathering on Sunday

and justify himself asserting Saturday as superior.

He is not Jewish.

Christians are not commanded to be Jews.

God is concerned with your heart.
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Again, do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

If so, why?

Do you seek to evade answering this simple question?

If so, why?

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Should we be working on Sunday?

Should we be working 6 days a week?
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Again, do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

If so, why?

Do you seek to evade answering this simple question?

If so, why?
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God disapproves entirely of Christians substituting gatherings on Sunday for His 7th Day Sabbath.
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Would God disapprove you dedicating both days to honoring Him and fellowshipping together?

Men seeking to justify themselves are not honoring God.
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no need to
it's not the same

keeping the Shabbat / Sabbath is a covenant requirement for Israelis not the Goy

the only time the Goy are required to adhere to or observe the Sabbath, is when they are visiting or living in the land of Israel

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Sunday / The first day of the week is commonly referred to as "The Lord's Day"

- Resurrected on the first day of the week

- The Apostles gathered together on the first day of the week

this became the common practice and tradition
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Again, do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

If so, why?

Do you seek to evade answering this simple question?

If so, why?
 Quoting: shoeshy


God disapproves entirely of Christians substituting gatherings on Sunday for His 7th Day Sabbath.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


Don't weasel my question to you.

My question was simple and straight-forward.

Answer the same.

Let your yes be yes and your no no.

Do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

Yes or no?
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Why would I do that. Shabbat Shalom.
 Quoting: Simkins1050


My thought exactly...OP, we can't prove a negative!!
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Again, do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

If so, why?

Do you seek to evade answering this simple question?

If so, why?
 Quoting: shoeshy


God disapproves entirely of Christians substituting gatherings on Sunday for His 7th Day Sabbath.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


Must Christians be circumcised?

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Please keep your points succinct. The video is less than 4 1/2 minutes. Please prove that:

1) God rested on Sunday
2) God blessed Sunday
3) God sanctified Sunday
4) God put Sunday into His law



The floor is yours.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


Who said that Christians had a "sabbath"? who told them there was a Sabbath?
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Again, do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

If so, why?

Do you seek to evade answering this simple question?

If so, why?
 Quoting: shoeshy


God disapproves entirely of Christians substituting gatherings on Sunday for His 7th Day Sabbath.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


EZ 46:1 should prove to all, Sabbath is different, set aside, not like than other days (including Sunday): Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
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Sabbath means Saturday. It's practiced sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.

The RCC changed it from Saturday to Sunday and I remember when they used to attend church on Saturdays.

The RCC nor does anyone else have the authority to change the Sabbath. The Sabbath was being following among those in Heaven before God told his chosen race to observe it.

First day of the week is Sunday.
 Quoting: A Chosen

Sabbath means a holy day, not just the 7th day.
The Hebrews consider every required religious holiday, a Sabbath, not just the 7th day.

Christians (most of them anyway) do not worship upon the Sabbath, they worship on the First day of the Week, in honor of Christ's resurrection and our hope.

This was quite common, way before it was ever made mandatory by the Roman Emperor Constantine, (not the RCC). The RCC just followed the the Law of the Land in promoting it.

You guys need to get your facts straight, before you go off on your wild rants, in promoting Sabbath worship. Then some one might actually believe you.

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Every second of everyday should be a holy day
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The sabbath is to be set apart. If everyday is holy then how can it be set apart?
 Quoting: Achduke7



This.
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Would God disapprove you dedicating both days to honoring Him and fellowshipping together?

Men seeking to justify themselves are not honoring God.
 Quoting: shoeshy


1 Kings 18:21  And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Choose one or the other.
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But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God,
how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage?
You observe days and months and seasons and years.
I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.

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What days do you think God disapproves honoring Him and fellowshipping with other believers?
 Quoting: shoeshy


How is this applicable to the conversation?
 Quoting: janedoenut


OP is attempting to deride Christians gathering on Sunday

and justify himself asserting Saturday as superior.

He is not Jewish.

Christians are not commanded to be Jews.

God is concerned with your heart.
 Quoting: shoeshy


I haven't seen anywhere where OP is trying to tell people not to gather on Sunday or any other day. Sabbath is not about congregating, it's about rest.

Whilst the Father is concerned with your heart, there were no Jews or Christians back then and the commandments were written to His people and states that His people will do them.

Congregate any day you like, keep every day holy but do no servile work, buy or sell Friday evening - Saturday evening.
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Let your yes be yes and your no no.

Do you think God DISAPPROVES of Christians gathering on Sunday to honor Him and fellowship together?

Yes or no?


Should we be working on Sunday?

Should we be working 6 days a week?

Must Christians be circumcised?

 Quoting: shoeshy

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OP,

Should Christians only gather together on Saturday?

Should it only be a Sabbath day's journey on foot

or is it ok to drive to church?

OP, if Christians dedicate Saturday to rest and prayer and gather together on Sunday, is that ok with you?
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OP,

Why did Jesus Christ die?
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Would God disapprove you dedicating both days to honoring Him and fellowshipping together?

Men seeking to justify themselves are not honoring God.
 Quoting: shoeshy


1 Kings 18:21  And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Choose one or the other.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


Yes, which covenant do you choose?
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Sabbath means a holy day, not just the 7th day.
The Hebrews consider every required religious holiday, a Sabbath, not just the 7th day.
 Quoting: The Dr.


Yes, and there is an obvious separation between the two.

Leviticus 23:1  And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Leviticus 23:3  Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Leviticus 23:4-5  These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.  5  In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

...

Leviticus 23:37-38  These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:  38  Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.

Christians (most of them anyway) do not worship upon the Sabbath, they worship on the First day of the Week, in honor of Christ's resurrection and our hope.

This was quite common, way before it was ever made mandatory by the Roman Emperor Constantine, (not the RCC). The RCC just followed the the Law of the Land in promoting it.

You guys need to get your facts straight, before you go off on your wild rants, in promoting Sabbath worship. Then some one might actually believe you.

 Quoting: The Dr.


Show me where Bible verse where Jesus declares that one ought needs to change God's law, and establish a new Sabbath. As a matter of fact, why don't you answer the 4 points of the video. After all, if what you're saying is true, why not just give me the proof?

"The primitive Christians had a great veneration for the Sabbath, and spent the day in devotion and sermons. And it is not to be doubted but they derived this practice from the Apostles themselves, as appears by several scriptures to the purpose."
 Quoting: "Dialogues on the Lord's Day," p. 189. London: 1701, By Dr. T.H. Morer (A Church of England divine)

"The Gentile Christians observed also the Sabbath,"
 Quoting: Gieseler's "Church History," Vol.1, ch. 2, par. 30, 93.

"From the apostles' time until the council of Laodicea, which was about the year 364, the holy observance of the Jews' Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors: yea, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it." "Sunday a Sabbath."
 Quoting: John Ley, p.163. London: 1640.

"The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews;...therefore the Christians, for a long time together, did keep their conventions upon the Sabbath, in which some portions of the law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council."
 Quoting: The Whole Works" of Jeremy Taylor, Vol. IX,p. 416 (R. Heber's Edition, Vol XII, p. 416).

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Would God disapprove you dedicating both days to honoring Him and fellowshipping together?

Men seeking to justify themselves are not honoring God.
 Quoting: shoeshy


1 Kings 18:21  And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Choose one or the other.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


Yes, which covenant do you choose?
 Quoting: shoeshy


The one where the Sabbath is written upon my heart.

Jeremiah 31:33  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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OP,

Why did Jesus Christ die?
 Quoting: shoeshy


According to you, so you can break the law. According to Jesus, to save us from our sins.

Matthew 1:21  And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
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OP,

Why did Jesus Christ die?
 Quoting: shoeshy


According to you, so you can break the law. According to Jesus, to save us from our sins.

Matthew 1:21  And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


He had to die like that and in that way. If he's living in a mortal body with a definite lifespan...better go out with a bang. Sigh, some people.
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OP,

Why did Jesus Christ die?
 Quoting: shoeshy


According to you, so you can break the law. According to Jesus, to save us from our sins.

Matthew 1:21  And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


You will answer to Jesus Christ for this attack of your heart against me.
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Would God disapprove you dedicating both days to honoring Him and fellowshipping together?

Men seeking to justify themselves are not honoring God.
 Quoting: shoeshy


1 Kings 18:21  And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Choose one or the other.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


Yes, which covenant do you choose?
 Quoting: shoeshy


The one where the Sabbath is written upon my heart.

Jeremiah 31:33  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
 Quoting: *SDRAmerica*


I am genuinely curious as to what that means to you? I'm not looking for an argument or ill will, I just want to know what you believe it means.
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OP,

You have trouble answering my simple questions because you are not answering according to The Spirit of Truth, but of Pride, of Self.

I ask you again.

OP, if Christians dedicate Saturday to honor the Sabbath by staying home, doing no work and no travel, but for rest and prayer and then gather together on Sunday,

do YOU say that God disapproves?

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