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OP, please watch this video about the soft tissue, don't just see what Creationists have to say.


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At 30 min the video addresses the iron preserving tissue theory. I Would still stipulate that we live in a creation owned by God, and that we do require a saviour in order to free us from the grave i.e Jesus Christ The Messiah..




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Plenty of Christians accept evolution. An omnipotent god could -with a single action- create a universe where planets and life are automatically produced by natural processes.

Engineers and computer programmers actually use genetic algorithms to improve their designs. These are based on evolutionary principles. Basically, the algorithm applies random changes, discards the negative change, keeps the positive and repeats. This has been shown to automatically produce functional aerodynamic structures.
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Initially that is what I believed. Now though, I fully believe in the biblical account. God designed life forms to have a vast potential for diversity within their genome and its displayed in nature. i am all for debate however i don't think its the schools job to teach kids there is no God.
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Schools don't teach that.

When you say potential for diversity in their genome, are you suggesting that a wolf has all the genes necessary to create pugs and chihauhaus? Because that's not true. Differen't dog breeds have acquired new genes through mutation.

Every animal and plant on the planet uses the same 4 nucleic bases in its DNA. The only difference between the DNA of different species is the size and order of this sequence of bases.

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Watch Dr Dennis Swift present his research on the ICA stones (depicting all kinds of dinosaurs contemporary with man).

They are quite real, and evolution is quite false. Not only is it false, it is laughably easy to prove just how false it is.


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Laughably easy, eh? Go ahead then, you'll get a nobel prize.

I could make those ica stones in my garage. There's no evidence that they're ancient. Use some critical thinking please.


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You're triggered by the ICA stones. They give evolutionists convulsions because they're real.

I understand how you would feel.

And now watch Dr Swift's presentation in its entirety to understand why we know for a fact that they are real.
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Triggered? Come on. At least some of them are admitted forgeries made to con money out of tourists. I've already spent hours researching both sides of this subject, Creationists are notoriously dishonest. Can you give me a summary please?
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They've undergone forensic analysis in laboratories without any contamination found, and it's documented.

You apparently didn't watch a second of the presentation, and that's why I have no interest in people like you.

They aren't forgeries, and it can be proven.

Now, either watch the presentation, or get out of my face. I have no time for idiots and liars like you.

Your stupid monkey religion of Darwin is blown out of the water.

It's over.

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Laughably easy, eh? Go ahead then, you'll get a nobel prize.

I could make those ica stones in my garage. There's no evidence that they're ancient. Use some critical thinking please.


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You're triggered by the ICA stones. They give evolutionists convulsions because they're real.

I understand how you would feel.

And now watch Dr Swift's presentation in its entirety to understand why we know for a fact that they are real.
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Triggered? Come on. At least some of them are admitted forgeries made to con money out of tourists. I've already spent hours researching both sides of this subject, Creationists are notoriously dishonest. Can you give me a summary please?
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They've undergone forensic analysis in laboratories without any contamination found, and it's documented.

You apparently didn't watch a second of the presentation, and that's why I have no interest in people like you.

They aren't forgeries, and it can be proven.

Now, either watch the presentation, or get out of my face. I no time for idiots and liars like you.
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What is documented?

One of the guys supplying the inca stones admitted it was a forgery and demonstrated how he made them.

And I suppose you have spent years studying evolution? No, you only watch Creationist propaganda? That's what I thought.

I'm not going to sit through an hour of this snake oil salesman unless there's an argument in there I haven't already heard.

Throw a tantrum and say evolution is over all you want, doesn't make it true. It will continue to be used by actual scientists.

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You're triggered by the ICA stones. They give evolutionists convulsions because they're real.

I understand how you would feel.

And now watch Dr Swift's presentation in its entirety to understand why we know for a fact that they are real.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Triggered? Come on. At least some of them are admitted forgeries made to con money out of tourists. I've already spent hours researching both sides of this subject, Creationists are notoriously dishonest. Can you give me a summary please?
 Quoting: Spur-Man


They've undergone forensic analysis in laboratories without any contamination found, and it's documented.

You apparently didn't watch a second of the presentation, and that's why I have no interest in people like you.

They aren't forgeries, and it can be proven.

Now, either watch the presentation, or get out of my face. I no time for idiots and liars like you.
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What is documented?

One of the guys supplying the inca stones admitted it was a forgery and demonstrated how he made them.

And I suppose you have spent years studying evolution? No, you only watch Creationist propaganda? That's what I thought.

I'm not going to sit through an hour of this snake oil salesmen unless there's an argument in there I haven't already heard.
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They aren't INCA; they're ICA stones. Ok?

The ancient stones are documented in Spanish writings of the 1500s depicting 'dragons'.

Those tested by Dr Swift in his work in Peru are ancient.

Now shut up and watch the presentation and get over your whining.

Your monkey religion is a myth, man was always contemporary with dinosaurs, and you're delusional.

Those are the facts as they stand.

Watch the presentation. And I want you to feel what a moron you are, so for the first time in your life you'll know.

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Thread: The DINOSAUR SOFT TISSUE They Keep Finding Now PROVES They Are Not Millions and Millions of Years Old

Why does the Jurassic Park scientist refuse to do a scientific dating test to get scientific results in a real science examination?

All related testing expenses covered, and still he refuses to scientifically test the samples.

This is today's "Science" from "the Scientists".

Who would dare deny them?

Listen for yourself:


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Triggered? Come on. At least some of them are admitted forgeries made to con money out of tourists. I've already spent hours researching both sides of this subject, Creationists are notoriously dishonest. Can you give me a summary please?
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They've undergone forensic analysis in laboratories without any contamination found, and it's documented.

You apparently didn't watch a second of the presentation, and that's why I have no interest in people like you.

They aren't forgeries, and it can be proven.

Now, either watch the presentation, or get out of my face. I no time for idiots and liars like you.
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What is documented?

One of the guys supplying the inca stones admitted it was a forgery and demonstrated how he made them.

And I suppose you have spent years studying evolution? No, you only watch Creationist propaganda? That's what I thought.

I'm not going to sit through an hour of this snake oil salesmen unless there's an argument in there I haven't already heard.
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They aren't INCA; they're ICA stones. Ok?

The ancient stones are documented in Spanish writings of the 1500s depicting 'dragons'.

Those tested by Dr Swift in his work in Peru are ancient.

Now shut up and watch the presentation and get over your whining.

Your monkey religion is a myth, man was always contemporary with dinosaurs, and you're delusional.

Those are the facts as they stand.

Watch the presentation. And I want you to feel what a moron you are, so for the first time in your life you'll know.
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I said ica every time except that once, it was an error.

Who's whining? Evolution isn't a religion, don't be a child. I like how you think religion is an insult though.

Facts? Pfft. You think the scientific community don't know about these stones? They do, and they consider them a joke.

There are ancient images of minotaurs, griffons, and gods with bird heads. Do you think these things existed? The date of the rock doesn't tell you when the carvings were made, and the thing you're failing to realize is that even if we found a dinosaur alive today, it wouldn't disprove evolution.

I'll watch some of the lecture, might be good for a laugh.
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Evolution is a faith, a philosophy and a system of belief...
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Evolution is The Faith of those that adamantly oppose Faith in God.
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They've undergone forensic analysis in laboratories without any contamination found, and it's documented.

You apparently didn't watch a second of the presentation, and that's why I have no interest in people like you.

They aren't forgeries, and it can be proven.

Now, either watch the presentation, or get out of my face. I no time for idiots and liars like you.
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What is documented?

One of the guys supplying the inca stones admitted it was a forgery and demonstrated how he made them.

And I suppose you have spent years studying evolution? No, you only watch Creationist propaganda? That's what I thought.

I'm not going to sit through an hour of this snake oil salesmen unless there's an argument in there I haven't already heard.
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They aren't INCA; they're ICA stones. Ok?

The ancient stones are documented in Spanish writings of the 1500s depicting 'dragons'.

Those tested by Dr Swift in his work in Peru are ancient.

Now shut up and watch the presentation and get over your whining.

Your monkey religion is a myth, man was always contemporary with dinosaurs, and you're delusional.

Those are the facts as they stand.

Watch the presentation. And I want you to feel what a moron you are, so for the first time in your life you'll know.
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I said ica every time except that once, it was an error.

Who's whining? Evolution isn't a religion, don't be a child. I like how you think religion is an insult though.

Facts? Pfft. You think the scientific community don't know about these stones? They do, and they consider them a joke.

There are ancient images of minotaurs, griffons, and gods with bird heads. Do you think these things existed? The date of the rock doesn't tell you when the carvings were made, and the thing you're failing to realize is that even if we found a dinosaur alive today, it wouldn't disprove evolution.

I'll watch some of the lecture, might be good for a laugh.
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You still haven't watched the presentation because you're a closed minded pseudo-intellectual monkey religion dogmatist.

Start at 17:00 to see the forensic evidence.

And if we found a dinosaur alive today it would completely debunk the fossil record, which would in turn be the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb dropping on Darwinian religious dogma.

You're a moron, a know-nothing, and a closed minded bigot. That's all you are except for also being a liar.

Now get out of my face, or watch the video and attempt to show how Dr Swift (who researched this himself in Peru) is somehow wrong.

Do, or don't. Present facts and evidence, or shut your stupid, ignorant lying mouth.

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Preachers of evolution are the new high priests.

Unbelief is not tolerated.
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... the inaccuracy of carbon dating proves that nothing is even close to as old as "science" claims it to be... but can you imagine the implications of rewriting every text book and telling every graduate that their education is meaningless? They've been sweeping new findings under the rug for many, many decades...a real education can't be standardized...
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What is documented?

One of the guys supplying the inca stones admitted it was a forgery and demonstrated how he made them.

And I suppose you have spent years studying evolution? No, you only watch Creationist propaganda? That's what I thought.

I'm not going to sit through an hour of this snake oil salesmen unless there's an argument in there I haven't already heard.
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They aren't INCA; they're ICA stones. Ok?

The ancient stones are documented in Spanish writings of the 1500s depicting 'dragons'.

Those tested by Dr Swift in his work in Peru are ancient.

Now shut up and watch the presentation and get over your whining.

Your monkey religion is a myth, man was always contemporary with dinosaurs, and you're delusional.

Those are the facts as they stand.

Watch the presentation. And I want you to feel what a moron you are, so for the first time in your life you'll know.
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I said ica every time except that once, it was an error.

Who's whining? Evolution isn't a religion, don't be a child. I like how you think religion is an insult though.

Facts? Pfft. You think the scientific community don't know about these stones? They do, and they consider them a joke.

There are ancient images of minotaurs, griffons, and gods with bird heads. Do you think these things existed? The date of the rock doesn't tell you when the carvings were made, and the thing you're failing to realize is that even if we found a dinosaur alive today, it wouldn't disprove evolution.

I'll watch some of the lecture, might be good for a laugh.
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You still haven't watched the presentation because you're a closed minded pseudo-intellectual monkey religion dogmatist.

Start at 17:00 to see the forensic evidence.

And if we found a dinosaur alive today it would completely debunk the fossil record, which would in turn be the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb dropping on Darwinian religious dogma.

You're a moron, a know-nothing, and a closed minded bigot. That's all you are except for also being a liar.

Now get out of my face, or watch the video and attempt to show how Dr Swift (who researched this himself in Peru) is somehow wrong.

Do, or don't. Present facts and evidence, or shut your stupid, ignorant lying mouth.
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I'm watching it now, at the 17 minute mark and this guy has already said that some of them are fake, notably the ones showing the outdated upright depictions of dinosaurs produced in the 1960s.

A dinosaur alive today wouldn't debunk the fossil record. If a population survived into modern times, that doesn't mean the fossils aren't millions of years old.

You're doing an awful lot of name calling, yet I'm the one who's whiny and triggered? You're being hysterical. I haven't lied about anything.

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They aren't INCA; they're ICA stones. Ok?

The ancient stones are documented in Spanish writings of the 1500s depicting 'dragons'.

Those tested by Dr Swift in his work in Peru are ancient.

Now shut up and watch the presentation and get over your whining.

Your monkey religion is a myth, man was always contemporary with dinosaurs, and you're delusional.

Those are the facts as they stand.

Watch the presentation. And I want you to feel what a moron you are, so for the first time in your life you'll know.
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I said ica every time except that once, it was an error.

Who's whining? Evolution isn't a religion, don't be a child. I like how you think religion is an insult though.

Facts? Pfft. You think the scientific community don't know about these stones? They do, and they consider them a joke.

There are ancient images of minotaurs, griffons, and gods with bird heads. Do you think these things existed? The date of the rock doesn't tell you when the carvings were made, and the thing you're failing to realize is that even if we found a dinosaur alive today, it wouldn't disprove evolution.

I'll watch some of the lecture, might be good for a laugh.
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You still haven't watched the presentation because you're a closed minded pseudo-intellectual monkey religion dogmatist.

Start at 17:00 to see the forensic evidence.

And if we found a dinosaur alive today it would completely debunk the fossil record, which would in turn be the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb dropping on Darwinian religious dogma.

You're a moron, a know-nothing, and a closed minded bigot. That's all you are except for also being a liar.

Now get out of my face, or watch the video and attempt to show how Dr Swift (who researched this himself in Peru) is somehow wrong.

Do, or don't. Present facts and evidence, or shut your stupid, ignorant lying mouth.
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I'm watching it now, at the 17 minute mark and this guy has already said that some of them are fake, notably the ones showing the outdated upright depictions of dinosaurs produced in the 1960s.

A dinosaur alive today wouldn't debunk the fossil record. If a population survived into modern times, that doesn't mean the fossils aren't millions of years old.

You're doing an awful lot of name calling, yet I'm the one who's whiny and triggered? You're being hysterical. I haven't lied about anything.
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No, stop changing his words, liar. He didn't say they were 'fake'. He said he made some modern creations in the style of the ANCIENT STONES. And his modern creations are easily recognizable as modern, just as the ANCIENT CREATIONS are easily proven to be ancient.

And therefore, you're stupidity and falsehood is proven to be just that.

Now go back to watching again and don't come out until you're finished.


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I always knew jesus rode around on a t-rex kickin ass!
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I always knew jesus rode around on a t-rex kickin ass!
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Funny you should show this video. I shared the same video on Facebook yesterday.
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I said ica every time except that once, it was an error.

Who's whining? Evolution isn't a religion, don't be a child. I like how you think religion is an insult though.

Facts? Pfft. You think the scientific community don't know about these stones? They do, and they consider them a joke.

There are ancient images of minotaurs, griffons, and gods with bird heads. Do you think these things existed? The date of the rock doesn't tell you when the carvings were made, and the thing you're failing to realize is that even if we found a dinosaur alive today, it wouldn't disprove evolution.

I'll watch some of the lecture, might be good for a laugh.
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You still haven't watched the presentation because you're a closed minded pseudo-intellectual monkey religion dogmatist.

Start at 17:00 to see the forensic evidence.

And if we found a dinosaur alive today it would completely debunk the fossil record, which would in turn be the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb dropping on Darwinian religious dogma.

You're a moron, a know-nothing, and a closed minded bigot. That's all you are except for also being a liar.

Now get out of my face, or watch the video and attempt to show how Dr Swift (who researched this himself in Peru) is somehow wrong.

Do, or don't. Present facts and evidence, or shut your stupid, ignorant lying mouth.
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I'm watching it now, at the 17 minute mark and this guy has already said that some of them are fake, notably the ones showing the outdated upright depictions of dinosaurs produced in the 1960s.

A dinosaur alive today wouldn't debunk the fossil record. If a population survived into modern times, that doesn't mean the fossils aren't millions of years old.

You're doing an awful lot of name calling, yet I'm the one who's whiny and triggered? You're being hysterical. I haven't lied about anything.
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No, stop changing his words, liar. He didn't say they were 'fake'. He said he made some modern creations in the style of the ANCIENT STONES. And his modern creations are easily recognizable as modern, just as the ANCIENT CREATIONS are easily proven to be ancient.

And therefore, you're stupidity and falsehood is proven to be just that.

Now go back to watching again and don't come out until you're finished.


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Basilio carved many of these stones and sold them as ancient artifacts. That makes them fakes. Fakes are still being made and sold today.

I watched the whole thing, and as expected it was a waste of time. During the whole presentation, he showed maybe 3 stones, out of the supposed thousands. Even if I assume the stones he showed are genuine, all you have is pictures that look a little like sauropod dinosaurs. Not sufficient to demonstrate that ancient Peruvians actually lived along side them.

The images depict animals that are much smaller than the sauropods we've discovered, and they have features (toes, spines etc) that are inaccurate. Peru is full of crocodilians, chameleons and other lizards. Maybe that's what they are? If not mythological creatures. You're too quick to jump to conclusions, because you have a bias.

Speaking of bias, why do you trust the dating methods used on these stones but you don't trust the same dating methods used on fossils? Because you're only interested in the evidence that supports what you already believe.

Lastly, as I said, even if dinosaurs were alive today, it wouldn't debunk evolution or the fossil record, making your whole argument pointless. Lets assume the stones do depict dinosaurs, even though we have recorded history from that time period all over the world, and no body mentions them, so what?

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This is so old and yet people are still mindless.
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Mary Schweitzer didn't lose her job at all, and she's repeatedly told you Creationists to stop using her to support your position. She accepts evolution.
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Oh, sry I did not realize that. either way we don't need her to support our point of view, the scientific evidence speaks for itself.... T rex and all other dinosaurs are not trillions of years old, in fact they were most likely around before the flood approx. twelve thousand years ago..







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No scientist has ever said that dinosaurs are trillions of years old. The KT extinction event is estimated to have happened 65 million years ago.

What evidence do you have that all dinosaurs are no more than 12 000 years old? We should be able to find DNA in remains that fresh.
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some evidence.....

humans coexisted with dinosaures, what you will see are
thousands years old.
The only case to draw these before some thousands years is (dinos species who are real (existed) and others who
we still dont know about them.) is if you was see them.
Why? We just discovered dinos after 1947.
Before 1947 noone was knowing something about.
Only stories about dragons existed which in fact are just memories of dinos.

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Mary Schweitzer didn't lose her job at all, and she's repeatedly told you Creationists to stop using her to support your position. She accepts evolution.
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Oh, sry I did not realize that. either way we don't need her to support our point of view, the scientific evidence speaks for itself.... T rex and all other dinosaurs are not trillions of years old, in fact they were most likely around before the flood approx. twelve thousand years ago..







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No scientist has ever said that dinosaurs are trillions of years old. The KT extinction event is estimated to have happened 65 million years ago.

What evidence do you have that all dinosaurs are no more than 12 000 years old? We should be able to find DNA in remains that fresh.
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some evidence.....

humans coexisted with dinosaures, what you will see are
thousands years old.
The only case to draw these before some thousands years is (dinos species who are real (existed) and others who
we still dont know about them.) is if you was see them.
Why? We just discovered dinos after 1947.
Before 1947 noone was knowing something about.
Only stories about dragons existed which in fact are just memories of dinos.

Ica Stones
[link to www.google.gr (secure)]

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

[link to www.ancient-code.com (secure)]

Acambaro Statues

[link to www.google.gr (secure)]

[link to www.bible.ca]

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]

[link to mexicounexplained.com]
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I'm already familiar with these. Those ica stones that show obvious dinosaurs were 'discovered' by a farmer who later said that he carved them himself.

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Oh, sry I did not realize that. either way we don't need her to support our point of view, the scientific evidence speaks for itself.... T rex and all other dinosaurs are not trillions of years old, in fact they were most likely around before the flood approx. twelve thousand years ago..







poker
 Quoting: musashi777


No scientist has ever said that dinosaurs are trillions of years old. The KT extinction event is estimated to have happened 65 million years ago.

What evidence do you have that all dinosaurs are no more than 12 000 years old? We should be able to find DNA in remains that fresh.
 Quoting: Spur-Man


some evidence.....

humans coexisted with dinosaures, what you will see are
thousands years old.
The only case to draw these before some thousands years is (dinos species who are real (existed) and others who
we still dont know about them.) is if you was see them.
Why? We just discovered dinos after 1947.
Before 1947 noone was knowing something about.
Only stories about dragons existed which in fact are just memories of dinos.

Ica Stones
[link to www.google.gr (secure)]

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

[link to www.ancient-code.com (secure)]

Acambaro Statues

[link to www.google.gr (secure)]

[link to www.bible.ca]

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]

[link to mexicounexplained.com]
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I'm already familiar with these. Those ica stones that show obvious dinosaurs were 'discovered' by a farmer who later said that he carved them himself.


 Quoting: Spur-Man


bs..ica stones are thousands founded in the bottom of a river carved with uknown tools. Only a very strong laser
can carve these stones like that, but the problem is...
when they was discovered lasers had not still be invented,
and more...thousants? no one could do this and what this farmer says is a blatand lie.
My little advise...follow facts and logical thinking not
paid trash and just because they say so.
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No scientist has ever said that dinosaurs are trillions of years old. The KT extinction event is estimated to have happened 65 million years ago.

What evidence do you have that all dinosaurs are no more than 12 000 years old? We should be able to find DNA in remains that fresh.
 Quoting: Spur-Man


some evidence.....

humans coexisted with dinosaures, what you will see are
thousands years old.
The only case to draw these before some thousands years is (dinos species who are real (existed) and others who
we still dont know about them.) is if you was see them.
Why? We just discovered dinos after 1947.
Before 1947 noone was knowing something about.
Only stories about dragons existed which in fact are just memories of dinos.

Ica Stones
[link to www.google.gr (secure)]

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

[link to www.ancient-code.com (secure)]

Acambaro Statues

[link to www.google.gr (secure)]

[link to www.bible.ca]

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]

[link to mexicounexplained.com]
 Quoting: Perseus -


I'm already familiar with these. Those ica stones that show obvious dinosaurs were 'discovered' by a farmer who later said that he carved them himself.


 Quoting: Spur-Man


bs..ica stones are thousands founded in the bottom of a river carved with uknown tools. Only a very strong laser
can carve these stones like that, but the problem is...
when they was discovered lasers had not still be invented,
and more...thousants? no one could do this and what this farmer says is a blatand lie.
My little advise...follow facts and logical thinking not
paid trash and just because they say so.
 Quoting: Perseus -


The stones come from that farmer whom you call a blatant liar. He even demonstrated how he made them using a modern tool and baking them in dung. He said they came from a cave but never revealed its location. You don't need a laser to replicate them, you can see videos of them being created.

I suggest you take your own advice. The stones are sold to tourists.
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First Ica stones were brought to Spain by Padre Simon in 1562. Padre Simon was a jesuit scholar missionary who was a member of Pisaro's mission in Peru in the year 1525.

Another priest, Padre Crespi was given, amongst other disturbing artefacts, hundred of these stones by the local population of Peru, to repay him for his kindness.

There are multiple videos on youtube showing Padre Crespi's collection.
Here is his history:

[link to thelastdaysoftolemac.com]

Regarding the dinosaurs fossiles and soft tissues it only means that evolution and mutations happen much more quickly than thought previously. The actual methods of datation of fossiles, the methods of determination of the age of rocks, the speed of their formation and the age of geological layers are wrong.

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First Ica stones were brought to Spain by Padre Simon in 1562. Padre Simon was a jesuit scholar missionary who was a member of Pisaro's mission in Peru in the year 1525.

Another priest, Padre Crespi was given, amongst other disturbing artefacts, hundred of these stones by the local population of Peru, to repay him for his kindness.

There are multiple videos on youtube showing Padre Crespi's collection.
Here is his history:

[link to thelastdaysoftolemac.com]

Regarding the dinosaurs fossiles and soft tissues it only means that evolution and mutations happen much more quickly than thought previously. The actual methods of datation of fossiles, the methods of determination of the age of rocks, the speed of their formation and the age of geological layers are wrong.
 Quoting: Jean-Francois


Dude, the page you linked to is about Padre Carlos Crespi (not Padre Simon) and it doesn't say anything about ica stones. Google is showing nothing on ica stones coming from padre Simon.

Get your facts straight.

And no, What you said about the soft tissue is as inaccurate as what you said about Padre Simon.
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First Ica stones were brought to Spain by Padre Simon in 1562. Padre Simon was a jesuit scholar missionary who was a member of Pisaro's mission in Peru in the year 1525.
Another priest, Padre Crespi was given, amongst other disturbing artefacts, hundred of these stones by the local population of Peru, to repay him for his kindness.

There are multiple videos on youtube showing Padre Crespi's collection.

Here is his history:

[link to thelastdaysoftolemac.com]

Regarding the dinosaurs fossiles and soft tissues it only means that evolution and mutations happen much more quickly than thought previously. The actual methods of datation of fossiles, the methods of determination of the age of rocks, the speed of their formation and the age of geological layers are wrong.
 Quoting: Jean-Francois


Dude, the page you linked to is about Padre Carlos Crespi (not Padre Simon) and it doesn't say anything about ica stones. Google is showing nothing on ica stones coming from padre Simon.

Get your facts straight.

And no, What you said about the soft tissue is as inaccurate as what you said about Padre Simon.
 Quoting: Spur-Man


Looks like you can't read DUDE !

And about his collection of Ica stones



Starts at the 11:55 mark.

And I forget this about Padre Simon and the stones :

[link to books.google.fr (secure)]

Not only you can't read but you can't also use google properly.

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First Ica stones were brought to Spain by Padre Simon in 1562. Padre Simon was a jesuit scholar missionary who was a member of Pisaro's mission in Peru in the year 1525.
Another priest, Padre Crespi was given, amongst other disturbing artefacts, hundred of these stones by the local population of Peru, to repay him for his kindness.

There are multiple videos on youtube showing Padre Crespi's collection.

Here is his history:

[link to thelastdaysoftolemac.com]

Regarding the dinosaurs fossiles and soft tissues it only means that evolution and mutations happen much more quickly than thought previously. The actual methods of datation of fossiles, the methods of determination of the age of rocks, the speed of their formation and the age of geological layers are wrong.
 Quoting: Jean-Francois


Dude, the page you linked to is about Padre Carlos Crespi (not Padre Simon) and it doesn't say anything about ica stones. Google is showing nothing on ica stones coming from padre Simon.

Get your facts straight.

And no, What you said about the soft tissue is as inaccurate as what you said about Padre Simon.
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Looks like you can't read DUDE !
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The page you posted says nothing about ica stones. I can't find anything on ica stones coming from simon or Crespi. Do you have a source?

All of these ica stones depicting dinosaurs come from Basilio Uschuya, who claimed he found them all in a cave, which he never revealed, then he later said he carved them himself.
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First Ica stones were brought to Spain by Padre Simon in 1562. Padre Simon was a jesuit scholar missionary who was a member of Pisaro's mission in Peru in the year 1525.
Another priest, Padre Crespi was given, amongst other disturbing artefacts, hundred of these stones by the local population of Peru, to repay him for his kindness.

There are multiple videos on youtube showing Padre Crespi's collection.

Here is his history:

[link to thelastdaysoftolemac.com]

Regarding the dinosaurs fossiles and soft tissues it only means that evolution and mutations happen much more quickly than thought previously. The actual methods of datation of fossiles, the methods of determination of the age of rocks, the speed of their formation and the age of geological layers are wrong.
 Quoting: Jean-Francois


Dude, the page you linked to is about Padre Carlos Crespi (not Padre Simon) and it doesn't say anything about ica stones. Google is showing nothing on ica stones coming from padre Simon.

Get your facts straight.

And no, What you said about the soft tissue is as inaccurate as what you said about Padre Simon.
 Quoting: Spur-Man


Looks like you can't read DUDE !

And about his collection of Ica stones



Starts at the 11:55 mark.

And I forget this about Padre Simon and the stones :

[link to books.google.fr (secure)]

Not only you can't read but you can't also use google properly.
 Quoting: Jean-Francois


The article says Simon found stones 'LIKE' the ica stones in the 1500's. They didn't have dinosaurs on them, or anything unusual.

That video of Crespi's collection has the Mayan pyramids in it, clearly all those objects don't belong to Crespi.

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I wouldn't even call this proof personally, but it's evidence. Evolution is the best model available and it's the only observable natural phenomena that can bring about a new species.
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Fair enough, but I would consider it at least proof that there were transitional species, which in itself is proof of transitional evolution... Which is one of the main points creationists use to "discredit" evolution.
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How does it feel that even your "brothers" are smarter than you?

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