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You realize that has nothing to with evolution right?
 Quoting: Spur-Man


other than everything... I would like to fool around with you guys longer but I have to go running around for a while...
 Quoting: musashi777


Everything? What do you think evolution is? Because in biology it refers to how living populations change and diversify with time.

Let's make this simple. Do you think that all equines share a common ancestor?
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Without the universe being created first, you would have no where for your lightning bubble puddle to exist, duh.




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You realize that has nothing to with evolution right?
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other than everything... I would like to fool around with you guys longer but I have to go running around for a while...
 Quoting: musashi777


Everything? What do you think evolution is? Because in biology it refers to how living populations change and diversify with time.

Let's make this simple. Do you think that all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



Without the universe being created first, you would have no where for your lightning bubble puddle to exist, duh.
 Quoting: musashi777


Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?

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other than everything... I would like to fool around with you guys longer but I have to go running around for a while...
 Quoting: musashi777


Everything? What do you think evolution is? Because in biology it refers to how living populations change and diversify with time.

Let's make this simple. Do you think that all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



Without the universe being created first, you would have no where for your lightning bubble puddle to exist, duh.
 Quoting: musashi777


Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



I would assume.... yes. Just like all canines and felines etc etc. You can have a large diversity of sub groups within a kind of animal i.e: Timber wolves vs Chihuahuas, tigers vs house cats, Shaquille O'Neal vs pigmies.
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Everything? What do you think evolution is? Because in biology it refers to how living populations change and diversify with time.

Let's make this simple. Do you think that all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



Without the universe being created first, you would have no where for your lightning bubble puddle to exist, duh.
 Quoting: musashi777


Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



I would assume.... yes. Just like all canines and felines etc etc. You can have a large diversity of sub groups within a kind of animal i.e: Timber wolves vs Chihuahuas, tigers vs house cats, Shaquille O'Neal vs pigmies.
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That is evolution. 'Kind' is a vague term. Every animal exists within a subgroup, within larger subgroups. This observation is referred to as nested hierarchy. Animals are a 'kind' of eukaryote, Mammals are a 'kind' of animal, equines are a 'kind' of mammal, donkeys are a 'kind' of equine.
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This is merely dinosaurs that were brought back to life using dna and artificial womb technology by the highly advanced pre-flood Atlantean civilization. Thats why theres still soft tissue its only a few tens of thousands of years old and was frozen!

you also have to consider that curious aliens could have studied our planet some time in the last 100k years and collected dinosaur dna using their far more advanced and effective methods, and bought them back "jurassic park style" to study them whilst they were waiting for their mothership to come back around to pick them up a few years later and then abandoned the earth to go study other planets.
 Quoting: Agent Smith 2014



or…Biblical pre flood story and atlantis are the same…higher tech existed pre-flood (see Ron Wyatt's Noah's Ark documentary--iron, laminated wood, sophisticated construction) which is why giantism is rampant in the fossil record…not just large lizards, but beavers, dragonflies, crocodiles (bigger than t-rex) sharks, etc have been found…

consider that fish float when dead and rot quickly... so all the fish fossils had to be buried quickly…all around the world…

the creation fell (lower oxygen rates and reduced electromagnetism) made larger animals work harder to live and go extinct… you see in the Biblical record fewer reports of giants and long-lived peoples…


then there is the Genetic component:

Genetic ENTROPY

yt: Prof. John Sanford on Genomic Entropy

Geneticists:
Dr. Crow: we are inferior to caveman.
Dr. Knodrashov: no human geneticist doubts man is degenerating.
Dr. Lynch Even assuming a lower mutation rate, we are degenerating at 1%-5% per generation.
Implies a young Creation and as with DNA complexity, theory of evolution is unlikely.

Average cell in 15 yr old - up to 6,000 mutations per cell. (all your cells are different)
Skin cell in 60 yr old - up to 40,000 mutations
Mutations primary cause of aging and death.
“...little potential for substantially increasing the upper limit of human life span.” (upper limit: 120 yrs)
--Michael Lynch (Population Geneticist)
50% reduction in sperm count in men.

Around 100 new mutations per generation.

Dr. Francis Collins, head of Human Genome Project, converted to Christ partly due to the data he found working in genetics.

“And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;”
Heb 1:10-11

“For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.”
Romans 8:22
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This is merely dinosaurs that were brought back to life using dna and artificial womb technology by the highly advanced pre-flood Atlantean civilization. Thats why theres still soft tissue its only a few tens of thousands of years old and was frozen!

you also have to consider that curious aliens could have studied our planet some time in the last 100k years and collected dinosaur dna using their far more advanced and effective methods, and bought them back "jurassic park style" to study them whilst they were waiting for their mothership to come back around to pick them up a few years later and then abandoned the earth to go study other planets.
 Quoting: Agent Smith 2014



or…Biblical pre flood story and atlantis are the same…higher tech existed pre-flood (see Ron Wyatt's Noah's Ark documentary--iron, laminated wood, sophisticated construction) which is why giantism is rampant in the fossil record…not just large lizards, but beavers, dragonflies, crocodiles (bigger than t-rex) sharks, etc have been found…

consider that fish float when dead and rot quickly... so all the fish fossils had to be buried quickly…all around the world…

the creation fell (lower oxygen rates and reduced electromagnetism) made larger animals work harder to live and go extinct… you see in the Biblical record fewer reports of giants and long-lived peoples…


then there is the Genetic component:

Genetic ENTROPY

yt: Prof. John Sanford on Genomic Entropy

Geneticists:
Dr. Crow: we are inferior to caveman.
Dr. Knodrashov: no human geneticist doubts man is degenerating.
Dr. Lynch Even assuming a lower mutation rate, we are degenerating at 1%-5% per generation.
Implies a young Creation and as with DNA complexity, theory of evolution is unlikely.

Average cell in 15 yr old - up to 6,000 mutations per cell. (all your cells are different)
Skin cell in 60 yr old - up to 40,000 mutations
Mutations primary cause of aging and death.
“...little potential for substantially increasing the upper limit of human life span.” (upper limit: 120 yrs)
--Michael Lynch (Population Geneticist)
50% reduction in sperm count in men.

Around 100 new mutations per generation.

Dr. Francis Collins, head of Human Genome Project, converted to Christ partly due to the data he found working in genetics.

“And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;”
Heb 1:10-11

“For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.”
Romans 8:22
 Quoting: in spirit and in truth



there are no advanced "aliens" that are of this dimension… Book of Enoch says all the pre-flood critters and people were put into the other dimension we think of as demonic…containing the spirits of fairies, elves, trolls, giants, orks, big foot, beautiful fallen angels, etc…who sometimes under the right circumstances can manifest here in our dimension--especially w a little help from the occult and their activities… review the interview w Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron on the Philadelphia Project… they pulled the plug because one of their time travelers encountered Christ and they realized the aliens they were working w were evil…

there are hundreds of documented cases of abductees calling on Christ to end their abductions… researcher Joe Jordan has compiled these.
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Without the universe being created first, you would have no where for your lightning bubble puddle to exist, duh.
 Quoting: musashi777


Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



I would assume.... yes. Just like all canines and felines etc etc. You can have a large diversity of sub groups within a kind of animal i.e: Timber wolves vs Chihuahuas, tigers vs house cats, Shaquille O'Neal vs pigmies.
 Quoting: musashi777


That is evolution. 'Kind' is a vague term. Every animal exists within a subgroup, within larger subgroups. This observation is referred to as nested hierarchy. Animals are a 'kind' of eukaryote, Mammals are a 'kind' of animal, equines are a 'kind' of mammal, donkeys are a 'kind' of equine.
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evolution is just diversification… there are no bears turning into whales, as Darwin theorized… those kinds do not mix, no matter how much time passes...
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Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



I would assume.... yes. Just like all canines and felines etc etc. You can have a large diversity of sub groups within a kind of animal i.e: Timber wolves vs Chihuahuas, tigers vs house cats, Shaquille O'Neal vs pigmies.
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That is evolution. 'Kind' is a vague term. Every animal exists within a subgroup, within larger subgroups. This observation is referred to as nested hierarchy. Animals are a 'kind' of eukaryote, Mammals are a 'kind' of animal, equines are a 'kind' of mammal, donkeys are a 'kind' of equine.
 Quoting: Spur-Man



evolution is just diversification… there are no bears turning into whales, as Darwin theorized… those kinds do not mix, no matter how much time passes...
 Quoting: in spirit and in truth


Genetically, cetaceans (whales, dolphins and porpoises) are closer to the hippo than the bear.

Are you sure cetaceans did not evolve from land dwelling mammals? Because the fossil record, as well as genetic evidence (including dormant hind leg genes) are consistent with this idea.

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(Pertaining to the random creation of the universe, and for it to have self organised itself in the way it is shaped today.)


It would be like tossing a coin and it coming up as heads

ten quintilian times in a row.

10,000,000,000,000,000,000.
 Quoting: musashi777

This you are required to prove.

Science isn't done by ASSertion.
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(Pertaining to the random creation of the universe, and for it to have self organised itself in the way it is shaped today.)


It would be like tossing a coin and it coming up as heads

ten quintilian times in a row.

10,000,000,000,000,000,000.
 Quoting: musashi777

This you are required to prove.

Science isn't done by ASSertion.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What do you believe??

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(Pertaining to the random creation of the universe, and for it to have self organised itself in the way it is shaped today.)


It would be like tossing a coin and it coming up as heads

ten quintilian times in a row.

10,000,000,000,000,000,000.
 Quoting: musashi777

This you are required to prove.

Science isn't done by ASSertion.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What do you believe??


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Now you're talking about the multiverse? Your thread is about 'Darwinian evolution' crumbling.
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Without the universe being created first, you would have no where for your lightning bubble puddle to exist, duh.
 Quoting: musashi777


Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



I would assume.... yes. Just like all canines and felines etc etc. You can have a large diversity of sub groups within a kind of animal i.e: Timber wolves vs Chihuahuas, tigers vs house cats, Shaquille O'Neal vs pigmies.
 Quoting: musashi777


That is evolution. 'Kind' is a vague term. Every animal exists within a subgroup, within larger subgroups. This observation is referred to as nested hierarchy. Animals are a 'kind' of eukaryote, Mammals are a 'kind' of animal, equines are a 'kind' of mammal, donkeys are a 'kind' of equine.
 Quoting: Spur-Man

Taxonomic Hierarchy is fun.

Micro and macro evolution are fun too.

A brown male finch and a brown female finch got married and produced a slightly different shade of brown baby finch. -darwinese

But a male finch and a female finch have never produced a pygmy or a Shaq. - janedoenut

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Wow...

oK, God made the universe. Now tell me why living populations don't change and diverge with time (which is what evolution is).

I'll ask you again, do all equines share a common ancestor?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



I would assume.... yes. Just like all canines and felines etc etc. You can have a large diversity of sub groups within a kind of animal i.e: Timber wolves vs Chihuahuas, tigers vs house cats, Shaquille O'Neal vs pigmies.
 Quoting: musashi777


That is evolution. 'Kind' is a vague term. Every animal exists within a subgroup, within larger subgroups. This observation is referred to as nested hierarchy. Animals are a 'kind' of eukaryote, Mammals are a 'kind' of animal, equines are a 'kind' of mammal, donkeys are a 'kind' of equine.
 Quoting: Spur-Man

Taxonomic Hierarchy is fun.

Micro and macro evolution are fun too.

A brown male finch and a brown female finch got married and produced a slightly different shade of brown baby finch. -darwinese

But a male finch and a female finch have never produced a pygmy or a Shaq. - janedoenut
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lol
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(Pertaining to the random creation of the universe, and for it to have self organised itself in the way it is shaped today.)


It would be like tossing a coin and it coming up as heads

ten quintilian times in a row.

10,000,000,000,000,000,000.
 Quoting: musashi777

This you are required to prove.

Science isn't done by ASSertion.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What do you believe??


 Quoting: musashi777


Now you're talking about the multiverse? Your thread is about 'Darwinian evolution' crumbling.
 Quoting: Spur-Man



Just pointing out the kind of back flips you need to make in order for chaos theory to make any kind of sense...
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Just pointing out the kind of back flips you need to make in order for chaos theory to make any kind of sense...
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And now you bring up yet another subject.
What has Chaos Theory got to do with Common Descent?
Do you even know what Chaos Theory is?

Please, in your own words, WHAT IS Chaos Theory?
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Chaos theory is the material universe coming about through random occurrences. Its utter rubbish. If you shrunk a city to the size of a cell, it would be less complex than a single cell. That level of precision cannot come into being by blind chance. I m sorry.


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I thought you nihilistic darwinists would give up eventually?!?!?!?!? Praise God! thank you King Jesus!



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Lol, evolutionists still trying to argue?!
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Why wouldn't they? All the evidence is on their side. 99% of scientists accept it.
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No,athiest souless fucks have to disprove God.The endless big lie,A solution looking for a problem.Up is Down bullshit.You have no real answers but flawed and altered data.Any evidence that goes against the modern religion of science is ridiculed or "disappeared".You can explain nothing.Lie to yourself all you want.
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I thought you nihilistic darwinists would give up eventually?!?!?!?!? Praise God! thank you King Jesus!



clappa
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You already said that you accept that all equines/felines/canines have a common ancestor. That means you are at least partially a 'darwinist.'You don't know what chaos theory is.

Let's go back to equines. They all have a common ancestor. What was it, and how did it come about? Did god make two adult equines appear spontaneously from nothing?

Are equines related to any other family in the order Perissodactyla?
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I thought you nihilistic darwinists would give up eventually?!?!?!?!? Praise God! thank you King Jesus!



clappa
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You already said that you accept that all equines/felines/canines have a common ancestor. That means you are at least partially a 'darwinist.'You don't know what chaos theory is.

Let's go back to equines. They all have a common ancestor. What was it, and how did it come about? Did god make two adult equines appear spontaneously from nothing?

Are equines related to any other family in the order Perissodactyla?
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Exactly each kind of animal reproduces after its own kind even if there are variations within the kind.....
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I thought you nihilistic darwinists would give up eventually?!?!?!?!? Praise God! thank you King Jesus!



clappa
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You already said that you accept that all equines/felines/canines have a common ancestor. That means you are at least partially a 'darwinist.'You don't know what chaos theory is.

Let's go back to equines. They all have a common ancestor. What was it, and how did it come about? Did god make two adult equines appear spontaneously from nothing?

Are equines related to any other family in the order Perissodactyla?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



Exactly each kind of animal reproduces after its own kind even if there are variations within the kind.....
 Quoting: musashi777


So all equines are the same kind even though they have different numbers of chromosomes. How did the equine 'kind' begin? Two adult equines spontaneously made from nothing?

How do you know equines are not part of the Perissodactyla 'kind'? What evidence do you think would support this?

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So all equines are the same kind even though they have different numbers of chromosomes. How did the equine 'kind' begin? Two adult equines spontaneously made from nothing?

How do you know equines are not part of the Perissodactyla 'kind'? What evidence do you think would support this?



1. there is nothing spontaneous about it. humans have created cells from scratch, do you stipulate that creating life forms from basic ingredients will be forever outside of our reach?


2. The fact that horses make horses and ponies make ponies....

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1. there is nothing spontaneous about it. humans have created cells from scratch, do you stipulate that creating life forms from basic ingredients will be forever outside of our reach?

2. The fact that horses make horses and ponies make ponies....
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1: So God built two adult equines out of raw material on the earth, but he did it slowly?

2: Yes, but in the past a kind of equine that wasn't a horse, zebra or a donkey, evolved into those kinds.

How do you know equines (which are in the order Perissodactyla) didn't evolve from a common ancestor with other Perissodactyla?

Hypothetically, lets say they did. All modern equines have a single toed foot. Other Perissodactyla, like most mammals have more than one toe. Would you agree that if the hypothesis is correct, it would be likely that the ancestor of the horse had more than one toe?

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1. there is nothing spontaneous about it. humans have created cells from scratch, do you stipulate that creating life forms from basic ingredients will be forever outside of our reach?

2. The fact that horses make horses and ponies make ponies....
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1: So God built two adult equines out of raw material on the earth, but he did it slowly?

2: Yes, but in the past a kind of equine that wasn't a horse, zebra or a donkey, evolved into those kinds.

How do you know equines (which are in the order Perissodactyla) didn't evolve from a common ancestor with other Perissodactyla?

Hypothetically, lets say they did. All modern equines have a single toed foot. Other Perissodactyla, like most mammals have more than one toe. Would you agree that if the hypothesis is correct, it would be likely that the ancestor of the horse had more than one toe?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



1. idk I wasn't there. but I assume the same way scientists have labs, God probably has some sort of procedure on creating life forms. I doubt he would build them as full sized adults, it would make more sense to start them off perhaps in some sort of womb. To be more precise I would need to do a bit of research, unfortunately I am constrained for time.

2. I am not sure again I need time to look into it. What I can say is that animals without a cleft hoof are un kosher. Perhaps there is an evolutionary advantage to having a solid hoof as opposed to a cleft hoof. I will need time to investigate ur question, hopefully today...
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1. there is nothing spontaneous about it. humans have created cells from scratch, do you stipulate that creating life forms from basic ingredients will be forever outside of our reach?

2. The fact that horses make horses and ponies make ponies....
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1: So God built two adult equines out of raw material on the earth, but he did it slowly?

2: Yes, but in the past a kind of equine that wasn't a horse, zebra or a donkey, evolved into those kinds.

How do you know equines (which are in the order Perissodactyla) didn't evolve from a common ancestor with other Perissodactyla?

Hypothetically, lets say they did. All modern equines have a single toed foot. Other Perissodactyla, like most mammals have more than one toe. Would you agree that if the hypothesis is correct, it would be likely that the ancestor of the horse had more than one toe?
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1. idk I wasn't there. but I assume the same way scientists have labs, God probably has some sort of procedure on creating life forms. I doubt he would build them as full sized adults, it would make more sense to start them off perhaps in some sort of womb. To be more precise I would need to do a bit of research, unfortunately I am constrained for time.

2. I am not sure again I need time to look into it. What I can say is that animals without a cleft hoof are un kosher. Perhaps there is an evolutionary advantage to having a solid hoof as opposed to a cleft hoof. I will need time to investigate ur question, hopefully today...
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You don't need to investigate. It's the norm for mammals to have more than one toe right? So if equines share a common ancestor with other mammals, it is more likely they lost some of their toes rather then all mammals gaining toes. Agreed?
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1. there is nothing spontaneous about it. humans have created cells from scratch, do you stipulate that creating life forms from basic ingredients will be forever outside of our reach?

2. The fact that horses make horses and ponies make ponies....
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1: So God built two adult equines out of raw material on the earth, but he did it slowly?

2: Yes, but in the past a kind of equine that wasn't a horse, zebra or a donkey, evolved into those kinds.

How do you know equines (which are in the order Perissodactyla) didn't evolve from a common ancestor with other Perissodactyla?

Hypothetically, lets say they did. All modern equines have a single toed foot. Other Perissodactyla, like most mammals have more than one toe. Would you agree that if the hypothesis is correct, it would be likely that the ancestor of the horse had more than one toe?
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1. idk I wasn't there. but I assume the same way scientists have labs, God probably has some sort of procedure on creating life forms. I doubt he would build them as full sized adults, it would make more sense to start them off perhaps in some sort of womb. To be more precise I would need to do a bit of research, unfortunately I am constrained for time.

2. I am not sure again I need time to look into it. What I can say is that animals without a cleft hoof are un kosher. Perhaps there is an evolutionary advantage to having a solid hoof as opposed to a cleft hoof. I will need time to investigate ur question, hopefully today...
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You don't need to investigate. It's the norm for mammals to have more than one toe right? So if equines share a common ancestor with other mammals, it is more likely they lost some of their toes rather then all mammals gaining toes. Agreed?
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I think felines have one common ancestor, canines another, bears, squirrels, hampsters etc etc...
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1: So God built two adult equines out of raw material on the earth, but he did it slowly?

2: Yes, but in the past a kind of equine that wasn't a horse, zebra or a donkey, evolved into those kinds.

How do you know equines (which are in the order Perissodactyla) didn't evolve from a common ancestor with other Perissodactyla?

Hypothetically, lets say they did. All modern equines have a single toed foot. Other Perissodactyla, like most mammals have more than one toe. Would you agree that if the hypothesis is correct, it would be likely that the ancestor of the horse had more than one toe?
 Quoting: Spur-Man



1. idk I wasn't there. but I assume the same way scientists have labs, God probably has some sort of procedure on creating life forms. I doubt he would build them as full sized adults, it would make more sense to start them off perhaps in some sort of womb. To be more precise I would need to do a bit of research, unfortunately I am constrained for time.

2. I am not sure again I need time to look into it. What I can say is that animals without a cleft hoof are un kosher. Perhaps there is an evolutionary advantage to having a solid hoof as opposed to a cleft hoof. I will need time to investigate ur question, hopefully today...
 Quoting: musashi777


You don't need to investigate. It's the norm for mammals to have more than one toe right? So if equines share a common ancestor with other mammals, it is more likely they lost some of their toes rather then all mammals gaining toes. Agreed?
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I think felines have one common ancestor, canines another, bears, squirrels, hampsters etc etc...
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Ok fine.

Can you answer my question please. Hypothetically, if equines do share a common ancestor with other Perissodactyla, then the ancestor of the horse likely had more toes. Correct?
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Chaos theory is the material universe coming about through random occurrences.
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No, it isn't.

Before trying to discuss science it might be helpful to learn some of it first.

Exactly each kind of animal reproduces after its own kind even if there are variations within the kind.....
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Define "kind" in a way that would make actual sense to a biologist.
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Chaos theory is the material universe coming about through random occurrences.
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No, it isn't.

Before trying to discuss science it might be helpful to learn some of it first.

Exactly each kind of animal reproduces after its own kind even if there are variations within the kind.....
 Quoting: musashi777

Define "kind" in a way that would make actual sense to a biologist.
book
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A frog and a bird are different kinds of animals. I would like to hear ur explanation of chaos theory please.